How the war is seen from here in Romania and from my perspective as someone who knows nothing about wars

Mar 6, 2022 10:33 AM

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I live roughly 60 km from Ukraine's south western border.

When the first strikes on Ukraine happened, everyone was in disbelief. Russian troops amassing at the border was already worrisome but I think everyone hoped for the best up until the last second.

In an attempt to soothe my anxiety and fear, as a 32 year old millennial with zero knowledge of war, I started reading. A lot.

Romania was part of the Soviet bloc,it was in the sphere of influence of the former USSR up until 1989 when the Romanian revolution happened and they un-alived Ceaușescu.

First thing I did was to research NATO, its history, its principles and the dreaded Article 5.

https://nato.usmission.gov/about-nato/

Next, I started reading about Russia, its nuclear arsenal and its Nuclear Doctrine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-chain-command-potential-russian-nuclear-strikes-2022-03-02/

Very interesting, scary stuff.
Tl;dr:
- can use nukes if territorial integrity or national security is threatened
- can use nukes if other countries fire nukes OR if they think other countries fired nukes
- can use nukes in "traditional" warfare in a thing called "escalate to de-escalate" or just to force someone into submission.

According to the latest news, they WILL use nukes if NATO enforces the no-fly zone in Ukraine but NATO representatives said that it's out of the question.

Putin has admitted that in a conventional war, Russia is no match to NATO's combined power. This is a very interesting change in rhetoric considering that they've sold the world a whole different perspective.

He pointed out that they do have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and the more I read I'm convinced that he's going to use nukes should a NATO-Russia conflict happen.

When he put the nukes on enhanced combat duty, he basically opened the chain of command that could lead to actually launching said nukes, a chain of command otherwise closed according to their doctrine.

News here is just about the same as everywhere and your usual fear mongering, misleading headlines that people bite into without even blinking.

Latest one I've heard about was that men here aged 18-35 are getting called into conscription.

1. We are not at war
2. We're currently in no danger of war
3. Obligatory conscription in time of peace was eliminated in 2007

A few others that went around for a while after Vladdy put his nuclear forces on enhanced combat duty were that he's actually definitely arming his nukes and will definitely fire them.

Thing is, governments would technically have a heads up and we'd see if Russia is preparing to launch, at least from land bases (nuke bases with ICBMs would show signs of heating up) and aerial bombers. Submarines are a different subject.

We're doing our part!
I was very happy to see that we're supporting Ukraine along with other countries.

Ukraine is our neighbor. Our hearts break and our souls ache seeing the unnecessary suffering of innocent people.

The mobilization here to help refugees has been mind blowing.

People gathered at the border to help. They donated food, clothes, medicine offered shelter.

It's both terribly sad and heart-warming to see humanity's best side surface in the worst time since WW2.
We could have done better...IMO.

Since Vladdy started making nuclear threats, Romanian people have literally emptied the pharmacies of iodine pills out of fear of a nuclear accident.

Thank fuck it didn't happen.

I mean, I can see why most would react this way since for many the memory of Chernobyl is alive and well but it's still totally uncalled for. For now.

Iodine does more bad than good when taken unnecessarily.

Of course, we have pro-Russian people here as well. People who think Putin's acts are completely justified. That he's "just protecting his people".

I've heard people say that the Ukrainian government has deliberately armed the people, incited them to violence and the Russians are simply "fighting back".

Simple people. The common clay of Romania. You know. Morons.

A Romanian senator blew up social media when she claimed that she looked at the Kyiv webcams and there is in fact no war (Diana Șoșoacă if you want to look her up but be prepared to lose some brain cells)

Lmao

This had me cracking up.
As a Magick practicing woman myself, this threat had me rolling.

Before you ask why won't the "so called witches" simply just curse the fuck out of Putin...it's like opening a proverbial can of worms. There's no telling if:

1. It works at all
2.it might make matters worse

We've had discussions in our circles about this and the elderly, more experienced folk heavily recommended that we do not attempt anything.

I personally pray for the people of Ukraine and hope for this war to end.

My husband has a friend in the Kharkiv area.
He's kept contact but cannot flee. He's currently in hiding. He's been online daily and I sigh in relief every time I ask my husband if his friend is still alive and says: yup.

With the closing of Facebook and other social media in Russia, there's no telling how long he can still communicate.

A few days ago I decided to check out the bunkers in my city near where I live. These were built a long time ago and are currently locked.

Most likely, people living here use them as storage spaces.

While they might be helpful in a conventional war, I'm getting my family's asses away from conflict at the first sign of trouble.

Hopefully we won't need these at all.

Since the conflict escalated, we've had NATO planes patrolling the skies.

These planes are loud AF. I never imagined how loud they actually are.

Not long ago, we've had our skies graced with B-52 bombers as part of NATOs response to secure eastern borders. You know...in case Vladdy decides to get greedy.

We currently suck at everything military so...

Our neighbors in Moldova are having a really bad time with Russian troops already on their borders and more possibly advancing towards Transnistria.

I really don't know what's going to happen and I'm scared. Everyone is.

We joke around and try to find humor to comfort ourselves but truth be told, most of us are terrified.

I go to work every day as the sole provider for my family, trying to be a good mom and, unknowingly to my husband and daughter, starting to make serious plans to getting the fuck out of here if the war spills into other countries.

Slavă Ucraina! (in Romanian)

standwithukraine

ukraine

At least Romania is NATO with all the protection that provides, and Romania is letting Ukrainian warships hang out in their waters

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Be well, and stay safe, friend.

4 years ago | Likes 118 Dislikes 0

I have 2 brothers that are very good friends that migrated here (us) 15 years ago. It’s been interesting to hear their prospective also.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Thank you for the insight and the Blazing Saddles tip-of-the-hat

4 years ago | Likes 107 Dislikes 0

Unfortunately it seems the clay has grown here in the New West...

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Knowing Russias technical level. A 1/3 of the nukes will blow up in their silos. 1/3 will run out of gas on the way. 1/3 wont even exploded

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And the mere act of trying to launch them will get Putin wiped off the map.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is really awful. The war is 1400km away from me but I live 200km away from St.Petersburg in Finland. My anxiety has gone tru the roof.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I feel you, friend.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thank you, and stay safe!

4 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Always keep a full tank of gas, just in case. Good luck, op. Stay safe.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Im on the literal other side of the world and im terrified over here, total nuke war have no boundaries at all, its the end for all of us,>1

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

sooner or later...

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

32 and zero knowledge of war, what about Bosni.... Oh, you would.have been like 5 or 6. I guess its been a while for europe :(

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Bravo! Puie Mutin!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

@OP, Thank you for sharing such a thoughtful perspective. Please research EMPs and consider preparing. I hope for your safety.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I have since researched EMPs and it is now taken into account. Thank you!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Apreciez că ți-ai dedicat timp să scrii și să povestești puțin. Va trece și asta, vom fi mai înțelepți după. Păstrați-vă sănătatea întreagă.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Ah, vezi aici lista anxietății http://adaposturi.vercel.app

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Way to be prepared and educate yourself!! Hope for the best, plan for the worst!!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's a tanker, it doesn't "patrol" but refuel other aircrafts.

4 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Yes, but I've seen two B52s over Romania recently and you won't see fighter jets that are being refueled. You can see Global Hawk often...

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

...over Black Sea or near Belarus. And of course plenty of military transport planes flying to/from Poland/UA border.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

#8

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If Putin is stupid enough to launch a nuclear weapon NATO will blow him into the stone age

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

> When Romanian says that he has no first hand experience of Ceaușescu, and you feel old as fuck.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Ukraine is the first in line of countries Putin have in mind to "take". If they do not get help, then all is lost. P is stuck in the past!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I just hope they have a ceasefire and let the kids escape corridors

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thank you, that was an enjoyable read and presents a slightly different view than I've seen from the UK. Regarding Putin...

4 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 0

...and nukes is that although they have protocols, Putin is happy to ignore them which has prompted Europe's dramatic shift...

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

...on sanctions. In my view, the sensible approach is retaining diplomatic channels and getting as much information about...

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

...what is happening in Ukraine out. Putin can lie to Russians via propaganda but it ignores how easily information is obtained...

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

...in the weeks and months that follow. Combined with the sanctions and western companies withdrawing from Russia, the truth...

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

...becomes harder to ignore. The Russian stock market failing to reopen this Wednesday will send a clear message to...

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

IMO the more putin threatens using nukes, the more likely their nuke arsenals is in shambles and barely functioning.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

out of 6k nukes just one going off in a hostile conflict could send the world into a tailspin...scary af

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i know, but my line of logic is my own way of coping with something i cannot control.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Moldova is scared shitless that they are next, what with a Russian base on them!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Russia might have a lot of nukes on paper, but many of these are non functional. you cant keep a nuke for 20+ years without replacing it

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I think it's an EMP we should be most concerned with. Jan. 2021 DHS threat assessment: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1124730.pdf

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That's fucking scary

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry. The good news, though, is that it's harmless. But since you are (smartly) preparing to evacuate if necessary, I thought you

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

should know this is a scenario that you might need to consider. All the best to you and yours.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Scenario considered. Thanks! ❤️

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thank you for that. Stay safe! ...Living on the edge with battery at 9% too!!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Un-alive putin!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thanks a lot for this insight and perspective ! The situation seems so unreal from afar.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Stay Safe, Witchy Woman. I will offer to Hermes to guide your family if the time comes. Blessed Be.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Aw ❤️ blessed be friend!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Very interesting read, thank you! What do iodine pills do in case of a nuclear war?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Iodine tablets, in the form of potassium iodide, can protect the thyroid from damage after an accident with radiation/radiation emergency.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It stops the thyroid from using radioactive isotopes of iodine, however it shouldn't be used for general protection from radiation.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh really? Interesting. Most people in western Europe already take iodide for an underactive or overactive thyroid

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

iodised salt - to my knowledge - does not contain enough iodine to have much impact on your levels

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