Feb 16, 2020 7:09 AM
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somnif
Just to add more info, he was yelling this statement, with a megaphone, outside a high school when this took place
He was also arrested on assault charges himself at least twice that I know of.
Cdebello
I mean the guy is an asshole but we should not bash every asshole over the head with a baseball bat.
davemacaroni
Aside from it being morally wrong I don’t think it’d work. It’d take to much time.
Lol you’re righ
popejubal
Did he really tell her not to hit him with the bat? Or is he just saying this now because he regretted it the next morning?
iameddieX
Sounds consensual to me.
fleawuss
“Preacher” = Loon who thinks middle eastern myths 3000-2000 years old should determine how everyone lives.
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
So most major religions in a nut shell
JackSmiles2
Look the blood even dried. See the body shut it down? He will be fine
dobedodo
Update: he's now being forced to marry the bat.
SilenceMontane
Talk shit get hit
Targe0
If God didn't want that to happen to him then it wouldn't have happened to him.
generationsai
God was definitely like, “Fuck that guy!”
YourSonCallsMeMommyToo
Everything happens for a reason
NanoTox
Lets just agree please that this guy is an asshole and not bring imaginary friends into it
I don't know, seems very on point for Old Testament God.
myballshurt
Shouldnt have been dressed like that
Boogertitty
Never should have come here
justagirlchildpassingthrough
Understandable saying but there are also people who dress to feel "sexy" and feel creeped out after getting hit on and that too is a ???.
I said it's a understandable saying just saying some approach the saying incorrectly so that they can complain about the situation they know
They put themselves in
thanksfoenothing
What was he wearing when it happened?
imgurgud
You mean what he WASN'T wearing.
TheOneWhoWasLeft
He was naked under his clothes, that wanton hussy.
sadavocado
It doesn’t matter that’s the point
Nathanyel
Oh damn, I thought it said "shirt" and not "sign", so I thought the question was even funnier.
itsdarkandicantseewhatimtyping
A sign that said you deserve to be raped.
binhood
no helmet
Kuvajainen
What a slut!
DigiT00l
No it was the sign carrying
extraDimensionalAnxiety
Swing and a miss.
At least she didn't
LordKingSalmon
Whoosh.
valen00
Clearly you shouldn't hit people with bats. Now raping him, sounds like he's up for it
DrButterscotch
i0NLYdownV0TE
Yes he's a total fucking (so many possible names) but assault with a baseball bat can land you in prison for 10+ years. He's not worth it.
Yep, Tabitha Brubaker was arrested and charged with felony assault. 5-15 years in prison. She ruined her life over that asshole.
Mustakraken
If God didn't want him to take a baseball hat to his head, then he wouldn't have allowed it. ~blessed~
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Go to the url, this is four years old. She was jailled at least until 2018 which is the latest article a cursory gooogle finds.
MigraMines
i mean it was assault with a deadly weapon _/(._.)\_
Corrodias
It's a shame they didn't take provocation more into account.
if provocation was an excuse there would be quite a few people that would end up dead or beaten.
It is, in some jurisdictions. It's not a *complete* defense, but it does, where applicable, typically reduce homicide to manslaughter. »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(legal)#As_a_partial_defense_for_murder
kajgod365
Poor bat, didn't deserve it.
MELLANcolly
That's not funny. Due to the recent accusations, that bat had to move. Think of its family!
blonx
I'm sure its proud it could help
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
Trust me, they're fine with it.
ItsTheCableGuy
It was fulfilling.. The Prophecy
FuriousBakedPotato
20 rapists downvoted you
glim7756
Ya... That numbskull is thicker than the asphalt
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I hope he didn't catch Corona.
hoistedbymyownpetard
His words said...” No , please no...” but his sign said “ Crack me in my stupid fuck’in head”.
hymenochirus
I’ve heard the woman was an excellent competition swimmer, so she’ll be let off with a slap on the wrist.
it's four years old and she was jailed for at least two years. the latest article i could find was 2018 and she was still in jail then.
apocalypsewow
It's a Brock Turner reference
RustyMaguffins
I bet he wanted to be hit in the head at first but then regretted it later, tired of people like this crying assault.
iancarry
i hope the woman is okay
I’ve heard she was an excellent competition swimmer. We wouldn’t want to damage her ability to compete by imprisoning her.
Grimmy32
She should definitely be punished. As anyone else should get rightfully charged, no matter their job.
Mickeysofine
She'll probably be charged with assault.
jazzwicket
Yeah, this is an unjustified assault but it's typical of imgur that 90% of comments here focus on how he's a victim whereas on a post...
...about a woman getting hit for being aggressive, 90% of the comments will be "Equal rights, equal lefts" or something dumb like that.
OliverClothesoff70
You are entirely full of shit. This asshole guy received a bat to the head for words on a sign. The "woman getting hit for being (1)
aggressive" as you describe it, is getting hit by the person YOU hit first. Your gender does not make it OK to hit first. Ever. (2)
Yeah I said getting hit is never justified. But I've seen at least two posts here where a woman simply squares up to a man & gets hit first
The responses on those were pretty universally that she deserved it because if she wants to act like a man she should get hit like one.
doryaa
DanniYell
Nit
cmarr5
sabian92
my2micmacs
"You got red on you" feels appropriate here!
LegendaryKatman
Unpopular fact: he's a real piece of shit for holding that sign but that doesn't justify fucking hitting someone with a baseball bat.
Brother Dean, one of Tucson's more infamous residents. He would wander UA's campus following women around saying they were whores.
Traja01
Time to set up a bat shop on the UA campus
AutistMasterbaiter
Super soakers filled with liquified Jenkem. If you’re going to spew shit at people it’s only fair to receive it in turn..
rubberbuscuit2018
How did he avoid stalking and harassment charges? Why didn’t the University charge home w/trespassing?
He did get kicked off campus occasionally (it's a public place, can't perma ban easily), and has been arrested at least twice I know of.
GooseWhoGames
We banned Jason Kessler from many parts of uva campus I believe. Can’t be that hard if they really want to.
Madv1lla1n
Dean Saxton, preaches misogyny 1) women are property 2) women deserve to be raped based on what they’re wearing 3) single-mothers are evil
SkogensKung
I mean, have you seen Disney movies? Single step mothers be crazy.
PonySlaystation5
Downvoters, he's explaining this guy's agenda, not agreeing to it. Expressing your discontent by downvoting is kinda... wrong :/
tigersRcool
It’s sweet you assume that is why they downvote...
barbarian818
he sounds like an incel with a pulpit.
AStupidWeeb
I wonder if he had a single mother.
onecowboytoo
What if he had two mothers?
PerfectManhattanUp
Could've just said that he takes the Bible seriously
This isn't taking something 'Seriously,' this is taking the 'Extreme', which is what this guy and others incapable of critical thinking do
c00lbeans69
https://youtu.be/zkNQDOPjcdU
ChibiGojira
So why does he matter?
darkladyvanstar
I'll go one step further: Should have been late-term aborted.
Makes you wonder what they were subjected/exposed to during their formative years? Sad how something so pure, can become so hate filled
CreateYourOwnNormality
The phrase 'Post-term abortions' was invented to push fake moral outrage not so long ago. Just saying, it's an existing concept now.
I am not quite sure what you mean.
CaldariBob
In a perfect world, retroactive abortion would be legal until at least the 120th trimester.
bannatoosmallforscale
Cool motive. Still assault
PrissySnail
Yeah, why does no one side with the ones condoning rape these days? /s
Melonfish
Are you taking about his sign or the attack?
profssrfink
Both really. But using your freedom of speech to condone rape is pretty horrendous. People are gonna people.
LionFromTheNorth
This is why we have juries, to give the law some interpretation. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Treblaine
She has a not totally unreasonable grounds to self-defence under fighting words doctrine. He did say "you deserve" not "x-group deserves"
For example if someone approached you and said "you deserve as ass whooping" that is effectively a threat of violence which is assault.
Jjjoestar
A threat of violence is “I’m gonna hurt you” you’re wrong.
No I'm right, the definition of assault doesn't require the perp make an explicit confession but merely create the apprehension.
mallerzkay
None of that is how the law works. Even if someone hits you, it's illegal to hit them back unless you are actively defending yourself -
(2) If someone flashes a gun saying "I don't want to use this, so beat it" still assault even if they didn't literally say "I'll shoot you"
Well that’s different because the person brandished a firearm. It doesn’t stand in a court of law.
Hardie86
So is rape, Argument still stands
lordtzar
We disagree and i was assaulted once so because we disagree I'm entitled to rape you?
steerAwwPrincess
RoodKontjeAapje
Yeah but the point is that 'they asked for it' isn't valid, right? So why would this woman do it herself?
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
That both assault and rape are illegal?
Yes.
RackhamTheRed
You're on to something
Good point. If someone tells you "you deserve an ass whooping" that's 'Fighting Words' that can mean "I'm gonna hurt you" which is Assault.
No. It isn't. It is a threat, not an assault. But you would likely never find a court hold that judgement up... because it's too loose.
A threat can be assault, don't mix it up with "battery". https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-assault.html
What it means by "more than just words" is someone can't commit assault via the internet as they can't punch through the screen.
ins0mnio
this is insane and ppl condoning this shit are insane, too; 2 wrongs don't make a right, get a grip..
Darksnider05
Entire society built on beating the shit out of people in your way... But this is insane.
SplendidoSplendente
While it's objectively wrong it doesn't mean he didn't deserve it.
mastikator
Yeah beating up people is the governments job, fucks sake people...
You're being sarcastic, but it literally is. We, as citizens, have granted the gov't power to enforce laws and jail us. Same thing.
CheeseB0t
When did we do that? I must've missed the memo
Are you unaware of the existence of police? Of jails? Of courts? All those are normal systems needed by every civilization in history.
No I'm well aware of them. I just wasn't aware we the people at any point gave them the right. They just kind of, did it.
kojenk
The vast majority of publically open nazis who got punched the fuck out have stopped advertising that shit.
Feedingyouspiderswhileyousleep
Which is bad. You want these people in the open. Freedom of speech lets you know who the idiots are. Punching them didn't change them.
fuck that. dont apply your own context. These assholes were applying actual influence to the open public and now that is gone.
If you feel hitting people changes them cool. In the case of the story, she did 60 days and he is still a cunt out there with signs.
I am not saying talking with them will change them either. Some people are just cunts.
Gosuamakenatek
I know! Like when the germans were all invading everyone, but then we went and invaded them? We should have had a civil debate instead!
JustSomePersonThere
Sorry son, but you are strictly on the wrong side of this question. Hope you or no one you care about ever suffers sexual violence, cuz it’s
...evident that the concept of “rape” is a mere abstraction to you.
Don't let your emotions get the better of you. Just coz they think hitting him was wrong doesn't mean they think rape is ok or don't get it.
Fair, I DID let my emotions get to me. It’s hard to stop it when A) ppl treat it like a joke and B) I’ve seen the trauma it causes.
As a consequence, I’m forced to conclude that such people are (thankfully) too far removed it to treat it with the gravity it deserves.
I mean really.. Why do people still pull that shit?
yzark01
This is assuming assault and rape are equal crimes in your eyes? Which would be so fucking messed up.
BearForceTwo
the 2 "crimes" here are assault and having a shit opinion. things dont have to be equal to say that neither is okay. neither is okay here.
Josefbugman1543
When is violence acceptable?
Never to these people, they will happily ignore the severity and sheer number of women raped but will flip shit when they attack people.
QBorg
Hey ya know when people say that sometimes dumbasses need to get hit for being dumbasses? This is one of those times.
lamoinejeff
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...
IamfunatpartiesIknow
Not just for being dumbasses, for spreading dumpassiness
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johnvictor
Love when the ultra conservatives bring this up. I remind them who has been shooting up Walmarts and such most lately.
BandaloopDancer
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
In Germany, when the discussion is about right-extremist terrorism and people bringt up the RAF cause that's the last left-extremists we had
>> that would count as domestic terrorism.
Baader-Meinhof was 1970, and the last murder by the RAF in 1991. Latest right-extremist murder was last year. So yeah.
snowballzero
Wonder what the responses would be if the genders were switched.
TecNeck
Probably ignore the sign and come to the woman's aid
DoktorWyvern
I'd still laugh.
I sincerely doubt youll find any women holding signs saying someone deserves rape.
Onfire7
Lol! Women have run human trafficking organizations that kidnap young girls and force them into prostitution... This is ABSOLUTELY not >
>outside of the realm of what morally superior idiots are capable of...
CrazyWithTheCheeseWiz
And if you do, hit Sarah Palin with a bat and blame Obama.
lonklan
There's always room for more idiots . You wouldn't have thought a preacher would hold such a sign, but here we are.
MrSaturday
If you showed me a sign like that my first guess would be a religious person.
keyonne
Yeah no totally would have expected that. Judging by the “God hates gays” and “you deserve hell” signs they’re carrying around nowadays.
Dustfinger4268
Please don't equate those Westboro bastards and wannabes with the rest of Christianity. Most of us aren't like that
Antelino
In America I sure as fuck would lol, have you not paid attention for the last decade+?
Why, what happened?
Bukkhockey
It's not. He's a dumbass with a sign. Same reason u don't attack WBC, he isn't hurting anyone. Just call the cops 4 disorderly and move on.
There's nothing disorderly about holding up a sign, peacefully exercising first amendment rights.
I agree, but people who have a problem with anything, should call the police, instead of deciding themselves to intervene.
What, and get someone killed?
The amount of times that happens, isn't statistically significant enough to even bring it up in the discussion.
That's why you need a bat.
enheru
If you don't want to be hit in the head with a bat the body has a way of shutting it down. He clearly wanted it.
BrazilianThunderPanda
He wanted it, he was just playing hard to get. Little tease.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He should have stayed home. Respectable men don't go to places frequented by such people anyway. That dumb slut got what he deserved.
Yes, his body would have shut down and prevented him from getting an injury.
gatorwatch
Yea, if he really didn’t want it why didn’t he stop her and just raise his arm. Its not hard.
mrimpastabowl
Was that politician reelected?
Allthegoodnamesweretakenbeckygod
I think he was.
NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
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ToeThumbs
He’s no longer allowed at the Little League fields.
Crowlands
Steve Rogers talking about flying monkeys.gif
lookitupyourself
I often think rapists should have to undergo the same thing, but like, 5 burly guys or girls (whichever is least attractive) locked in a ..
room with them, not being violent per se, but just coercing and grabbing endlessly for however many days until they give in. That kids rape.
*that kinda rape. The type to super fuck with your head and let you know how that feels.
Smekadorki
Assault with a deadly weapon is a felony. Words should not drive people to act violently. If you do, and promote this, you're pathetic imo.
SquabbleMcSquadson
Too rational for imgur. Just like that woman, they can't think straight and don't know what this mentality leads to.
I wouldn't assault him, but I'm sure as fuck going to mock him. It's just words after all.
BashBack
Self defense.
did he write down the names and addresses of women who criticized him? no? then this argument is nonexistant.
So, you're taking the position that broad threats against entire groups are acceptable?
there were no threats.
youreablurb
I still can’t believe in this day and age that the whole “the body has a way of shutting it down” line was actually said by an actual human
cormone
We are sure it was said by an actual human?
mischivousmic
Not just a human, a human with some form of governmental power
Chpgmr
i mean, technically you do. Its called arms. but i get the joke.
No.
Its also called Ducking.
I found this humerus.
Omnijones777
Probably hoping for a lawsuit, or could just be a dumbass, the Westboro church has a tactic like this 1
2 most of their members, who are also family, are lawyers, they are a cult. 3
ShaveSteedlesmack
A cult is a small religion. A religion is a large cult.
The members try to provoke violence so that they are assaulted, then boom lawsuit, these suits won are what fund them.
Kennleth
Don’t have to pay someone if they’re dead. This is why I don’t “throw down” because I can’t reign in after being unleashed :(
lecruest
https://media.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif
Tonight on /r iamverybadass. Man cant reign it in after "throwing down"
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Yeah he's a cunt but you cant just go around caving people in with bats
ITellBadPuns
It was... assault and BATtery :D
Maaatth
He asked for it, walking around with his bare head...
Especially because bats can infect you with rabies. :)
Rabidbacon
Cujo
Ppwer
Or coronavirus.
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
And ebola
2sips
You can, it's just not a very nice thing to do.
storebrandproductmascot
It would feel good, but brain damage usually increases levels of religious crazy, so ultimately self-defeating.
Just make sure you get a good connection. Really shoot for that coma.
BoredCreep
Well, you can, but you have to be ready for the legal repercussions.
It's also a crime
TsubakiTragic
It was fine till we got over populated with lawyers.
PossibleSarcasm
You can if they're in some way politically maligned and therefore an irredeemable human. Just ask twitter
How in the living fuck is rape a political issue? What kind of backward ass bumpkin town are you from where rape is remotely debatable
Gw2Nice
well thats not just political. "you deserved to be raped" is a direct attack xd
Seanspeed
Are you suggesting that people saying others should be raped is now a...political issue? :/
I remember learning in school that everything is political
tpgreyknight
Well, it's frowned upon at any rate.
Drath101
I mean he has a tiny trickle of blood and heads bleed everywhere normally so I wouldn't say he's been caved in, but I get the sentiment
Hit in the head with a baseball bat and blood running down your face? Psh tis but a scratch.
It could be enough to cause internal bleeding and swelling that can lead to death.
Still not 'caved in'
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
I understand your point. But, would it actually be a bad thing if that POS died ? He’s clearly not a constructive human.
If he died then the person that attacked him is no better then him. Both spreading intolerance of another group. Better to use reason -
With that logic we are no better than the Taliban.
to try to find a middle ground where they can both learn how to move forward in a peaceful way.
Would you extend that same sympathy to ISIS propagandists?
sebappl1234
You can't be serious. That's like comparing a fever to having cancer.
How? Both say you deserve to be raped for being who you are.
My father almost died from that kind of head wound so yes, I would. No one deserves to suffer that kind of injury.
No-one DESERVES any kind of injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words this is up to debate but by him phrasing it as "you" it crosses the line.
Into physical violence worthy of physical retaliation?
Depends on EXACTLY how he phrased it, did he phrase it as a threat, as in "you deserve an ass whooping", hard to explain in 140 characters.
Yes. Absolutely. God forbid you or someone you love get raped. But maybe then you’d understand.
My sister was raped. The rapist did not commit the sin of talking, he raped someone.
ItWasntSupposedToBeThisWay
But bringing a bat might push it into premeditated assault.
Premeditation isn't a factor in assault nor battery.
No, but it definitely removes the fighting words defense.
No it doesn't. Fighting words isn't so much a "defence" but the constitutional basis for why the law can't protect all speech.
IronicDancing
Are you gonna step in and defend him?
shadowex3
Yes, because there was a time people advocating for my race not being exterminated was as offensive as what he's advocating right now.
Only on the grounds like a piece of shit like that is just the sort to use that as an excuse to retaliate excessively to a fight he provoked
Him as a person or his right to think and say shitty things without fear of violence? Because those are two VERY different things.
I was referring to the former.
I'll defend his right to speak and not get beaten, yes
Me too. As fucking hideous as his thoughts are, Freedom of Speech protects him too. This gets lost on Imgur a lot. People want the (1)
system to ONLY allow speech they personally agree with and want to actively prevent anyone they disagree with from ever speaking. (2)
That is a Thought Police mentality. It's anti-freedom. It surprises me how many times I've had that debate on here. (3)
Correct... and then call him a piece of shit.
Yes, then do that
Not what I asked.
My apologies, what are you asking specifically?
Would you step in to defend this guy physically? As in put yourself in harm's way for him?
NonBinaricAllBarbaric
I agree we should aim to be beyond physical violence, though I cannot defend or condone hate speech.
When does violence towards a person become something meritable?
FEMAcampsarereal
This comes close.
Um, when they are committing violence against you.
Frozenspokes
When that person is evil. I think that description applies in that man's case.
Usually when it becomes justifiable, which is normally difficult. But protecting people from things like rape is always meritable.
ActuallyMadeOfCheese
IMO - it doesn't. It may absolutely be the least bad thing to do out of a set of bad things to do, but that doesn't make it a good thing.
Fighting Words doctrine may give her a substantial defence especially as it was "you deserve" not "x group deserves".
That's a legal argument, but I would attest not a MORAL argument.
The moral argument is much easier, but depends how deep you want to go. Morally the person approves of people being violently attacked.
However he is allowed to be a hypocrite and he is allowed to demand hypocritical laws... but democracy doesn't work by threats.
When a person is trying to instigate violence towards other people
ImgurPlz
Killing Nazis?
Did they though... They seem to be back... and they're running the USA it seems.
Congratulations, you dont know what a nazi is
When the person upon whom the violence is being visited seeks to harm you or your loved ones. If someone looks me square in the eyes and...
So all people killed by drone are unmeritied, or anyone killed by cannons/bombardment?
...and says “imma wait in that bathroom, and when I see your son, I’m snatching him, and sodomizing him in a stall” and I know he’s serious,
...then he’s not going to even get a chance to do anything even remotely to that. It’s always been OK to defend yourself from threats.
I agree rape is abhorrent, but this asshole's sign isn't a threat. Saying something SHOULD happen to someone isn't directly threatening them
Dagordae
When that person is so irredeemably terrible that they are a stain on the species. Like someone cheerleading rape.
Gamer4125
An eye for an eye and all
A saying that only encourages escalation. You don’t have to worry about them coming for an eye if they are all blind. The cycle of vengeance
Can only occur if there’s some who’s both capable and willing to come for revenge.
YouL0stTheGame
People can learn and change. Remember that before you start cheerleading assault
Do you say that before or after someones raped?
They can, but the problem is they often won't unless directly confronted.
RestlessVagabond
Who's morality standard do you wish to have applied to the answer?
Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Sikh? Hindu? Agnostic? Atheist? Zoroastrian? Buddhist? Taoist?
Your own, should you have one :)
Then its a pretty low bar. I don't like setting high standards I can't maintain. :)
if i were a woman that got raped before and saw that disgusting dude with his sign, i'd shove the bat right up his ass.
And you'd have become that which you hate, a penetrative rapist.
HolyCowDoNotEat
Honestly he deserves it.
MarioBoon
He deserved to be raped, then.
I guess you both deserved it then if you agree with him? Kind of awful.
it's called karma. And he'd deserve that too
He's the one preaching it, he obviously wants to be raped. Practically begging for it with that sign.
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
Did he deserve it? Yes. Was it the right thing to do? No.
I mean, probably a spit in the face would have been fine
cakeisprettygood
In my experience no lube is more painful for the dude fucking than the dude being fucked
Caspooky
...Not if you use a broom handle...
lDanielHolm
No one said it had to be a dude. How about a cactus?
Thinking outside the box, i like it
Hell, since a baseball bat was already in the picture... just use that.
Depends how he said it. Just like how if someone told you "you deserve as ass whooping" can be a threat you're justified to respond to.
StuckInBetweeen
"I'm not saying I condone it, I'm just saying I understand."
Looking more into the guy, yes I’d say it was the right thing to do. In the name of humanity.
It wouldn't have been the right thing to do to Hitler... Nobody is above the law, it makes you just as bad as the other person...
Just as bad? No. Sorry. You can argue I shouldn’t assault the guy but you’d be wrong to equalize the offenses.
True, I suppose the person that assaults someone is worse then the person who only holds a sign. Don't get me wrong, he's a terrible >
>person for that, but stupid people don't know their opinions are stupid, if we allow what she did, we allow stupid people to attack >
thorkild91
Right thing and lawful thing are not synonymous. Legality does not define morality. And the moral thing here is up for debate and subjective
True, but people with stupid opinions don't know they have them. So if we allow this, we allow people with stupid opinions to attack people>
>that have normal opinions... That's dangerous AF... Only reasonable thing is to disallow all assaults, deserved or not...
pdup231910
All it takes for evil to triumph, is for good men (mankind) to do nothing.
lurklongandprosper
You’re right of course, Debbie Downer :)
Was it the right thing to do? Yes. Was it legal? No. Should it be? Probably not, but there *should* be other ways of dealing with him.
He got what he deserved and that's not right? Right and legal are different. The law often lacks justice.
FuckThatUsernameIsTaken
but most important : was this a useless but fun thing to do ? YES !
Neither is telling human beings they should get raped
LetMeTellYouSomethingAboutHowTheWorldWorks
There is a difference between being an idiot and being violent. There is no law requiring US citizens to not be racists, sexist, or +
or believe dumb things. But if your condone violence because it's against people you don't like, don't be surprised when people who are +
really good at violence and believe insane things start killing their political enemies. Fascism breeds fascism. Don't use violence on +
peaceful people, but don't be scared to use violence when necessary.
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
The phrase "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your freedom to say it" comes to mind. Freedom of speech applies even here.
peppermintgal
Yelling at people with a megaphone that they deserve to be sexually assaulted is not protected speech, its harassment and disturbing the
peace. If you're going to try to advocate free speech, please learn what it is first.
Zangakkar
Yeah and when people break the law what do you do, hit them with bats or call the fucking cops?
bloodydingo
No what he did was harassment of minors. Potentially a sex offense since it was sexual in nature.
Freedom from repurcussions is not guaranteed in the Constitution.
HighImpactSexualViolence
True. And it's important to remember that the constitution only protects you from direct government action.
Mizopoad
No but it is protected in the law. You can't go around assaulting people because you don't like the things they're saying.
WeylandYutaniCorp
Yes you can. You just go to jail for it. ;)
somnif
Just to add more info, he was yelling this statement, with a megaphone, outside a high school when this took place
somnif
He was also arrested on assault charges himself at least twice that I know of.
Cdebello
I mean the guy is an asshole but we should not bash every asshole over the head with a baseball bat.
davemacaroni
Aside from it being morally wrong I don’t think it’d work. It’d take to much time.
Cdebello
Lol you’re righ
popejubal
Did he really tell her not to hit him with the bat? Or is he just saying this now because he regretted it the next morning?
iameddieX
Sounds consensual to me.
fleawuss
“Preacher” = Loon who thinks middle eastern myths 3000-2000 years old should determine how everyone lives.
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
So most major religions in a nut shell
JackSmiles2
Look the blood even dried. See the body shut it down? He will be fine
dobedodo
Update: he's now being forced to marry the bat.
SilenceMontane
Talk shit get hit
Targe0
If God didn't want that to happen to him then it wouldn't have happened to him.
generationsai
God was definitely like, “Fuck that guy!”
YourSonCallsMeMommyToo
Everything happens for a reason
NanoTox
Lets just agree please that this guy is an asshole and not bring imaginary friends into it
Targe0
I don't know, seems very on point for Old Testament God.
myballshurt
Shouldnt have been dressed like that
Boogertitty
Never should have come here
justagirlchildpassingthrough
Understandable saying but there are also people who dress to feel "sexy" and feel creeped out after getting hit on and that too is a ???.
justagirlchildpassingthrough
I said it's a understandable saying just saying some approach the saying incorrectly so that they can complain about the situation they know
justagirlchildpassingthrough
They put themselves in
thanksfoenothing
What was he wearing when it happened?
imgurgud
You mean what he WASN'T wearing.
TheOneWhoWasLeft
He was naked under his clothes, that wanton hussy.
sadavocado
It doesn’t matter that’s the point
Nathanyel
Oh damn, I thought it said "shirt" and not "sign", so I thought the question was even funnier.
itsdarkandicantseewhatimtyping
A sign that said you deserve to be raped.
binhood
no helmet
Kuvajainen
What a slut!
DigiT00l
No it was the sign carrying
extraDimensionalAnxiety
Swing and a miss.
DigiT00l
At least she didn't
LordKingSalmon
Whoosh.
valen00
Clearly you shouldn't hit people with bats. Now raping him, sounds like he's up for it
DrButterscotch
i0NLYdownV0TE
Yes he's a total fucking (so many possible names) but assault with a baseball bat can land you in prison for 10+ years. He's not worth it.
i0NLYdownV0TE
Yep, Tabitha Brubaker was arrested and charged with felony assault. 5-15 years in prison. She ruined her life over that asshole.
Mustakraken
If God didn't want him to take a baseball hat to his head, then he wouldn't have allowed it. ~blessed~
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Go to the url, this is four years old. She was jailled at least until 2018 which is the latest article a cursory gooogle finds.
MigraMines
i mean it was assault with a deadly weapon _/(._.)\_
Corrodias
It's a shame they didn't take provocation more into account.
MigraMines
if provocation was an excuse there would be quite a few people that would end up dead or beaten.
Corrodias
It is, in some jurisdictions. It's not a *complete* defense, but it does, where applicable, typically reduce homicide to manslaughter. »
Corrodias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(legal)#As_a_partial_defense_for_murder
kajgod365
Poor bat, didn't deserve it.
MELLANcolly
That's not funny. Due to the recent accusations, that bat had to move. Think of its family!
blonx
I'm sure its proud it could help
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
Trust me, they're fine with it.
ItsTheCableGuy
It was fulfilling.. The Prophecy
FuriousBakedPotato
20 rapists downvoted you
glim7756
Ya... That numbskull is thicker than the asphalt
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I hope he didn't catch Corona.
hoistedbymyownpetard
His words said...” No , please no...” but his sign said “ Crack me in my stupid fuck’in head”.
hymenochirus
I’ve heard the woman was an excellent competition swimmer, so she’ll be let off with a slap on the wrist.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
it's four years old and she was jailed for at least two years. the latest article i could find was 2018 and she was still in jail then.
hymenochirus
Whoosh.
apocalypsewow
It's a Brock Turner reference
RustyMaguffins
I bet he wanted to be hit in the head at first but then regretted it later, tired of people like this crying assault.
iancarry
i hope the woman is okay
hymenochirus
I’ve heard she was an excellent competition swimmer. We wouldn’t want to damage her ability to compete by imprisoning her.
Grimmy32
She should definitely be punished. As anyone else should get rightfully charged, no matter their job.
hymenochirus
Whoosh.
Mickeysofine
She'll probably be charged with assault.
jazzwicket
Yeah, this is an unjustified assault but it's typical of imgur that 90% of comments here focus on how he's a victim whereas on a post...
jazzwicket
...about a woman getting hit for being aggressive, 90% of the comments will be "Equal rights, equal lefts" or something dumb like that.
OliverClothesoff70
You are entirely full of shit. This asshole guy received a bat to the head for words on a sign. The "woman getting hit for being (1)
OliverClothesoff70
aggressive" as you describe it, is getting hit by the person YOU hit first. Your gender does not make it OK to hit first. Ever. (2)
jazzwicket
Yeah I said getting hit is never justified. But I've seen at least two posts here where a woman simply squares up to a man & gets hit first
jazzwicket
The responses on those were pretty universally that she deserved it because if she wants to act like a man she should get hit like one.
doryaa
DanniYell
Nit
cmarr5
sabian92
my2micmacs
"You got red on you" feels appropriate here!
LegendaryKatman
Unpopular fact: he's a real piece of shit for holding that sign but that doesn't justify fucking hitting someone with a baseball bat.
somnif
Brother Dean, one of Tucson's more infamous residents. He would wander UA's campus following women around saying they were whores.
Traja01
Time to set up a bat shop on the UA campus
AutistMasterbaiter
Super soakers filled with liquified Jenkem. If you’re going to spew shit at people it’s only fair to receive it in turn..
rubberbuscuit2018
How did he avoid stalking and harassment charges? Why didn’t the University charge home w/trespassing?
somnif
He did get kicked off campus occasionally (it's a public place, can't perma ban easily), and has been arrested at least twice I know of.
GooseWhoGames
We banned Jason Kessler from many parts of uva campus I believe. Can’t be that hard if they really want to.
Madv1lla1n
Dean Saxton, preaches misogyny 1) women are property 2) women deserve to be raped based on what they’re wearing 3) single-mothers are evil
SkogensKung
I mean, have you seen Disney movies? Single step mothers be crazy.
PonySlaystation5
Downvoters, he's explaining this guy's agenda, not agreeing to it. Expressing your discontent by downvoting is kinda... wrong :/
tigersRcool
It’s sweet you assume that is why they downvote...
barbarian818
he sounds like an incel with a pulpit.
AStupidWeeb
I wonder if he had a single mother.
onecowboytoo
What if he had two mothers?
PerfectManhattanUp
Could've just said that he takes the Bible seriously
Madv1lla1n
This isn't taking something 'Seriously,' this is taking the 'Extreme', which is what this guy and others incapable of critical thinking do
c00lbeans69
https://youtu.be/zkNQDOPjcdU
ChibiGojira
So why does he matter?
darkladyvanstar
I'll go one step further: Should have been late-term aborted.
Madv1lla1n
Makes you wonder what they were subjected/exposed to during their formative years? Sad how something so pure, can become so hate filled
CreateYourOwnNormality
The phrase 'Post-term abortions' was invented to push fake moral outrage not so long ago. Just saying, it's an existing concept now.
darkladyvanstar
I am not quite sure what you mean.
CaldariBob
In a perfect world, retroactive abortion would be legal until at least the 120th trimester.
bannatoosmallforscale
Cool motive. Still assault
PrissySnail
Yeah, why does no one side with the ones condoning rape these days? /s
Melonfish
Are you taking about his sign or the attack?
profssrfink
Both really. But using your freedom of speech to condone rape is pretty horrendous. People are gonna people.
LionFromTheNorth
This is why we have juries, to give the law some interpretation. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Treblaine
She has a not totally unreasonable grounds to self-defence under fighting words doctrine. He did say "you deserve" not "x-group deserves"
Treblaine
For example if someone approached you and said "you deserve as ass whooping" that is effectively a threat of violence which is assault.
Jjjoestar
A threat of violence is “I’m gonna hurt you” you’re wrong.
Treblaine
No I'm right, the definition of assault doesn't require the perp make an explicit confession but merely create the apprehension.
mallerzkay
None of that is how the law works. Even if someone hits you, it's illegal to hit them back unless you are actively defending yourself -
Treblaine
(2) If someone flashes a gun saying "I don't want to use this, so beat it" still assault even if they didn't literally say "I'll shoot you"
Jjjoestar
Well that’s different because the person brandished a firearm. It doesn’t stand in a court of law.
Hardie86
So is rape, Argument still stands
lordtzar
We disagree and i was assaulted once so because we disagree I'm entitled to rape you?
steerAwwPrincess
RoodKontjeAapje
Yeah but the point is that 'they asked for it' isn't valid, right? So why would this woman do it herself?
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
That both assault and rape are illegal?
Kuvajainen
Yes.
RackhamTheRed
You're on to something
Treblaine
Good point. If someone tells you "you deserve an ass whooping" that's 'Fighting Words' that can mean "I'm gonna hurt you" which is Assault.
Grimmy32
No. It isn't. It is a threat, not an assault. But you would likely never find a court hold that judgement up... because it's too loose.
Treblaine
A threat can be assault, don't mix it up with "battery". https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-assault.html
Treblaine
What it means by "more than just words" is someone can't commit assault via the internet as they can't punch through the screen.
ins0mnio
this is insane and ppl condoning this shit are insane, too; 2 wrongs don't make a right, get a grip..
Darksnider05
Entire society built on beating the shit out of people in your way... But this is insane.
SplendidoSplendente
While it's objectively wrong it doesn't mean he didn't deserve it.
mastikator
Yeah beating up people is the governments job, fucks sake people...
OliverClothesoff70
You're being sarcastic, but it literally is. We, as citizens, have granted the gov't power to enforce laws and jail us. Same thing.
CheeseB0t
When did we do that? I must've missed the memo
OliverClothesoff70
Are you unaware of the existence of police? Of jails? Of courts? All those are normal systems needed by every civilization in history.
CheeseB0t
No I'm well aware of them. I just wasn't aware we the people at any point gave them the right. They just kind of, did it.
kojenk
The vast majority of publically open nazis who got punched the fuck out have stopped advertising that shit.
Feedingyouspiderswhileyousleep
Which is bad. You want these people in the open. Freedom of speech lets you know who the idiots are. Punching them didn't change them.
kojenk
fuck that. dont apply your own context. These assholes were applying actual influence to the open public and now that is gone.
Feedingyouspiderswhileyousleep
If you feel hitting people changes them cool. In the case of the story, she did 60 days and he is still a cunt out there with signs.
Feedingyouspiderswhileyousleep
I am not saying talking with them will change them either. Some people are just cunts.
Gosuamakenatek
I know! Like when the germans were all invading everyone, but then we went and invaded them? We should have had a civil debate instead!
JustSomePersonThere
Sorry son, but you are strictly on the wrong side of this question. Hope you or no one you care about ever suffers sexual violence, cuz it’s
JustSomePersonThere
...evident that the concept of “rape” is a mere abstraction to you.
CheeseB0t
Don't let your emotions get the better of you. Just coz they think hitting him was wrong doesn't mean they think rape is ok or don't get it.
JustSomePersonThere
Fair, I DID let my emotions get to me. It’s hard to stop it when A) ppl treat it like a joke and B) I’ve seen the trauma it causes.
JustSomePersonThere
As a consequence, I’m forced to conclude that such people are (thankfully) too far removed it to treat it with the gravity it deserves.
CheeseB0t
I mean really.. Why do people still pull that shit?
yzark01
This is assuming assault and rape are equal crimes in your eyes? Which would be so fucking messed up.
BearForceTwo
the 2 "crimes" here are assault and having a shit opinion. things dont have to be equal to say that neither is okay. neither is okay here.
Josefbugman1543
When is violence acceptable?
yzark01
Never to these people, they will happily ignore the severity and sheer number of women raped but will flip shit when they attack people.
QBorg
Hey ya know when people say that sometimes dumbasses need to get hit for being dumbasses? This is one of those times.
lamoinejeff
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...
IamfunatpartiesIknow
Not just for being dumbasses, for spreading dumpassiness
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johnvictor
Love when the ultra conservatives bring this up. I remind them who has been shooting up Walmarts and such most lately.
BandaloopDancer
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
In Germany, when the discussion is about right-extremist terrorism and people bringt up the RAF cause that's the last left-extremists we had
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
>> that would count as domestic terrorism.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Baader-Meinhof was 1970, and the last murder by the RAF in 1991. Latest right-extremist murder was last year. So yeah.
snowballzero
Wonder what the responses would be if the genders were switched.
TecNeck
Probably ignore the sign and come to the woman's aid
DoktorWyvern
I'd still laugh.
yzark01
I sincerely doubt youll find any women holding signs saying someone deserves rape.
Onfire7
Lol! Women have run human trafficking organizations that kidnap young girls and force them into prostitution... This is ABSOLUTELY not >
Onfire7
>outside of the realm of what morally superior idiots are capable of...
CrazyWithTheCheeseWiz
And if you do, hit Sarah Palin with a bat and blame Obama.
lonklan
There's always room for more idiots . You wouldn't have thought a preacher would hold such a sign, but here we are.
MrSaturday
If you showed me a sign like that my first guess would be a religious person.
keyonne
Yeah no totally would have expected that. Judging by the “God hates gays” and “you deserve hell” signs they’re carrying around nowadays.
Dustfinger4268
Please don't equate those Westboro bastards and wannabes with the rest of Christianity. Most of us aren't like that
Antelino
In America I sure as fuck would lol, have you not paid attention for the last decade+?
extraDimensionalAnxiety
Why, what happened?
Bukkhockey
It's not. He's a dumbass with a sign. Same reason u don't attack WBC, he isn't hurting anyone. Just call the cops 4 disorderly and move on.
Corrodias
There's nothing disorderly about holding up a sign, peacefully exercising first amendment rights.
Bukkhockey
I agree, but people who have a problem with anything, should call the police, instead of deciding themselves to intervene.
Corrodias
What, and get someone killed?
Bukkhockey
The amount of times that happens, isn't statistically significant enough to even bring it up in the discussion.
Corrodias
That's why you need a bat.
enheru
If you don't want to be hit in the head with a bat the body has a way of shutting it down. He clearly wanted it.
BrazilianThunderPanda
He wanted it, he was just playing hard to get. Little tease.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He should have stayed home. Respectable men don't go to places frequented by such people anyway. That dumb slut got what he deserved.
YourSonCallsMeMommyToo
Yes, his body would have shut down and prevented him from getting an injury.
gatorwatch
Yea, if he really didn’t want it why didn’t he stop her and just raise his arm. Its not hard.
mrimpastabowl
Was that politician reelected?
Allthegoodnamesweretakenbeckygod
I think he was.
NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
ToeThumbs
He’s no longer allowed at the Little League fields.
Crowlands
Steve Rogers talking about flying monkeys.gif
lookitupyourself
I often think rapists should have to undergo the same thing, but like, 5 burly guys or girls (whichever is least attractive) locked in a ..
lookitupyourself
room with them, not being violent per se, but just coercing and grabbing endlessly for however many days until they give in. That kids rape.
lookitupyourself
*that kinda rape. The type to super fuck with your head and let you know how that feels.
Smekadorki
Assault with a deadly weapon is a felony. Words should not drive people to act violently. If you do, and promote this, you're pathetic imo.
SquabbleMcSquadson
Too rational for imgur. Just like that woman, they can't think straight and don't know what this mentality leads to.
enheru
I wouldn't assault him, but I'm sure as fuck going to mock him. It's just words after all.
BashBack
Smekadorki
did he write down the names and addresses of women who criticized him? no? then this argument is nonexistant.
BashBack
So, you're taking the position that broad threats against entire groups are acceptable?
Smekadorki
there were no threats.
youreablurb
I still can’t believe in this day and age that the whole “the body has a way of shutting it down” line was actually said by an actual human
cormone
We are sure it was said by an actual human?
mischivousmic
Not just a human, a human with some form of governmental power
Chpgmr
i mean, technically you do. Its called arms. but i get the joke.
IamfunatpartiesIknow
No.
Targe0
Its also called Ducking.
Treblaine
I found this humerus.
Omnijones777
Probably hoping for a lawsuit, or could just be a dumbass, the Westboro church has a tactic like this 1
Omnijones777
2 most of their members, who are also family, are lawyers, they are a cult. 3
ShaveSteedlesmack
A cult is a small religion. A religion is a large cult.
Omnijones777
The members try to provoke violence so that they are assaulted, then boom lawsuit, these suits won are what fund them.
Kennleth
Don’t have to pay someone if they’re dead. This is why I don’t “throw down” because I can’t reign in after being unleashed :(
lecruest
https://media.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif
Allthegoodnamesweretakenbeckygod
Tonight on /r iamverybadass. Man cant reign it in after "throwing down"
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Yeah he's a cunt but you cant just go around caving people in with bats
ITellBadPuns
It was... assault and BATtery :D
Kuvajainen
Maaatth
He asked for it, walking around with his bare head...
kajgod365
Especially because bats can infect you with rabies. :)
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Rabidbacon
Cujo
Ppwer
Or coronavirus.
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
And ebola
2sips
You can, it's just not a very nice thing to do.
storebrandproductmascot
It would feel good, but brain damage usually increases levels of religious crazy, so ultimately self-defeating.
Traja01
Just make sure you get a good connection. Really shoot for that coma.
BoredCreep
Well, you can, but you have to be ready for the legal repercussions.
LegendaryKatman
It's also a crime
TsubakiTragic
It was fine till we got over populated with lawyers.
PossibleSarcasm
You can if they're in some way politically maligned and therefore an irredeemable human. Just ask twitter
yzark01
How in the living fuck is rape a political issue? What kind of backward ass bumpkin town are you from where rape is remotely debatable
Gw2Nice
well thats not just political. "you deserved to be raped" is a direct attack xd
Seanspeed
Are you suggesting that people saying others should be raped is now a...political issue? :/
PossibleSarcasm
I remember learning in school that everything is political
tpgreyknight
Well, it's frowned upon at any rate.
Drath101
I mean he has a tiny trickle of blood and heads bleed everywhere normally so I wouldn't say he's been caved in, but I get the sentiment
PossibleSarcasm
Hit in the head with a baseball bat and blood running down your face? Psh tis but a scratch.
Targe0
It could be enough to cause internal bleeding and swelling that can lead to death.
Drath101
Still not 'caved in'
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
I understand your point. But, would it actually be a bad thing if that POS died ? He’s clearly not a constructive human.
Targe0
If he died then the person that attacked him is no better then him. Both spreading intolerance of another group. Better to use reason -
CrazyWithTheCheeseWiz
With that logic we are no better than the Taliban.
Targe0
to try to find a middle ground where they can both learn how to move forward in a peaceful way.
Josefbugman1543
Would you extend that same sympathy to ISIS propagandists?
sebappl1234
You can't be serious. That's like comparing a fever to having cancer.
Josefbugman1543
How? Both say you deserve to be raped for being who you are.
Targe0
My father almost died from that kind of head wound so yes, I would. No one deserves to suffer that kind of injury.
Josefbugman1543
No-one DESERVES any kind of injury.
Treblaine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words this is up to debate but by him phrasing it as "you" it crosses the line.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Into physical violence worthy of physical retaliation?
Treblaine
Depends on EXACTLY how he phrased it, did he phrase it as a threat, as in "you deserve an ass whooping", hard to explain in 140 characters.
Traja01
Yes. Absolutely. God forbid you or someone you love get raped. But maybe then you’d understand.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
My sister was raped. The rapist did not commit the sin of talking, he raped someone.
ItWasntSupposedToBeThisWay
But bringing a bat might push it into premeditated assault.
Treblaine
Premeditation isn't a factor in assault nor battery.
ItWasntSupposedToBeThisWay
No, but it definitely removes the fighting words defense.
Treblaine
No it doesn't. Fighting words isn't so much a "defence" but the constitutional basis for why the law can't protect all speech.
IronicDancing
Are you gonna step in and defend him?
shadowex3
Yes, because there was a time people advocating for my race not being exterminated was as offensive as what he's advocating right now.
Treblaine
Only on the grounds like a piece of shit like that is just the sort to use that as an excuse to retaliate excessively to a fight he provoked
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Him as a person or his right to think and say shitty things without fear of violence? Because those are two VERY different things.
IronicDancing
I was referring to the former.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
I'll defend his right to speak and not get beaten, yes
OliverClothesoff70
Me too. As fucking hideous as his thoughts are, Freedom of Speech protects him too. This gets lost on Imgur a lot. People want the (1)
OliverClothesoff70
system to ONLY allow speech they personally agree with and want to actively prevent anyone they disagree with from ever speaking. (2)
OliverClothesoff70
That is a Thought Police mentality. It's anti-freedom. It surprises me how many times I've had that debate on here. (3)
LegendaryKatman
Correct... and then call him a piece of shit.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Yes, then do that
IronicDancing
Not what I asked.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
My apologies, what are you asking specifically?
IronicDancing
Would you step in to defend this guy physically? As in put yourself in harm's way for him?
NonBinaricAllBarbaric
I agree we should aim to be beyond physical violence, though I cannot defend or condone hate speech.
Josefbugman1543
When does violence towards a person become something meritable?
FEMAcampsarereal
This comes close.
LegendaryKatman
Um, when they are committing violence against you.
Frozenspokes
When that person is evil. I think that description applies in that man's case.
yzark01
Usually when it becomes justifiable, which is normally difficult. But protecting people from things like rape is always meritable.
ActuallyMadeOfCheese
IMO - it doesn't. It may absolutely be the least bad thing to do out of a set of bad things to do, but that doesn't make it a good thing.
Treblaine
Fighting Words doctrine may give her a substantial defence especially as it was "you deserve" not "x group deserves".
Josefbugman1543
That's a legal argument, but I would attest not a MORAL argument.
Treblaine
The moral argument is much easier, but depends how deep you want to go. Morally the person approves of people being violently attacked.
Treblaine
However he is allowed to be a hypocrite and he is allowed to demand hypocritical laws... but democracy doesn't work by threats.
YourSonCallsMeMommyToo
When a person is trying to instigate violence towards other people
ImgurPlz
Killing Nazis?
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ImgurPlz
Did they though... They seem to be back... and they're running the USA it seems.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Congratulations, you dont know what a nazi is
JustSomePersonThere
When the person upon whom the violence is being visited seeks to harm you or your loved ones. If someone looks me square in the eyes and...
Josefbugman1543
So all people killed by drone are unmeritied, or anyone killed by cannons/bombardment?
JustSomePersonThere
...and says “imma wait in that bathroom, and when I see your son, I’m snatching him, and sodomizing him in a stall” and I know he’s serious,
JustSomePersonThere
...then he’s not going to even get a chance to do anything even remotely to that. It’s always been OK to defend yourself from threats.
OliverClothesoff70
I agree rape is abhorrent, but this asshole's sign isn't a threat. Saying something SHOULD happen to someone isn't directly threatening them
Dagordae
When that person is so irredeemably terrible that they are a stain on the species. Like someone cheerleading rape.
Gamer4125
An eye for an eye and all
Dagordae
A saying that only encourages escalation. You don’t have to worry about them coming for an eye if they are all blind. The cycle of vengeance
Dagordae
Can only occur if there’s some who’s both capable and willing to come for revenge.
YouL0stTheGame
People can learn and change. Remember that before you start cheerleading assault
yzark01
Do you say that before or after someones raped?
Josefbugman1543
They can, but the problem is they often won't unless directly confronted.
RestlessVagabond
Who's morality standard do you wish to have applied to the answer?
RestlessVagabond
Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Sikh? Hindu? Agnostic? Atheist? Zoroastrian? Buddhist? Taoist?
Josefbugman1543
Your own, should you have one :)
RestlessVagabond
Then its a pretty low bar. I don't like setting high standards I can't maintain. :)
Gw2Nice
if i were a woman that got raped before and saw that disgusting dude with his sign, i'd shove the bat right up his ass.
BoredCreep
And you'd have become that which you hate, a penetrative rapist.
HolyCowDoNotEat
Honestly he deserves it.
MarioBoon
He deserved to be raped, then.
BoredCreep
I guess you both deserved it then if you agree with him? Kind of awful.
MarioBoon
it's called karma. And he'd deserve that too
DoktorWyvern
He's the one preaching it, he obviously wants to be raped. Practically begging for it with that sign.
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
Did he deserve it? Yes. Was it the right thing to do? No.
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WombatWithWholeWheatWish
I mean, probably a spit in the face would have been fine
cakeisprettygood
In my experience no lube is more painful for the dude fucking than the dude being fucked
Caspooky
...Not if you use a broom handle...
lDanielHolm
No one said it had to be a dude. How about a cactus?
cakeisprettygood
Thinking outside the box, i like it
lDanielHolm
Hell, since a baseball bat was already in the picture... just use that.
Treblaine
Depends how he said it. Just like how if someone told you "you deserve as ass whooping" can be a threat you're justified to respond to.
CaldariBob
StuckInBetweeen
"I'm not saying I condone it, I'm just saying I understand."
Traja01
Looking more into the guy, yes I’d say it was the right thing to do. In the name of humanity.
Onfire7
It wouldn't have been the right thing to do to Hitler... Nobody is above the law, it makes you just as bad as the other person...
Traja01
Just as bad? No. Sorry. You can argue I shouldn’t assault the guy but you’d be wrong to equalize the offenses.
Onfire7
True, I suppose the person that assaults someone is worse then the person who only holds a sign. Don't get me wrong, he's a terrible >
Onfire7
>person for that, but stupid people don't know their opinions are stupid, if we allow what she did, we allow stupid people to attack >
thorkild91
Right thing and lawful thing are not synonymous. Legality does not define morality. And the moral thing here is up for debate and subjective
Onfire7
True, but people with stupid opinions don't know they have them. So if we allow this, we allow people with stupid opinions to attack people>
Onfire7
>that have normal opinions... That's dangerous AF... Only reasonable thing is to disallow all assaults, deserved or not...
pdup231910
All it takes for evil to triumph, is for good men (mankind) to do nothing.
lurklongandprosper
You’re right of course, Debbie Downer :)
Corrodias
Was it the right thing to do? Yes. Was it legal? No. Should it be? Probably not, but there *should* be other ways of dealing with him.
pdup231910
He got what he deserved and that's not right? Right and legal are different. The law often lacks justice.
FuckThatUsernameIsTaken
but most important : was this a useless but fun thing to do ? YES !
YourSonCallsMeMommyToo
Neither is telling human beings they should get raped
LetMeTellYouSomethingAboutHowTheWorldWorks
There is a difference between being an idiot and being violent. There is no law requiring US citizens to not be racists, sexist, or +
LetMeTellYouSomethingAboutHowTheWorldWorks
or believe dumb things. But if your condone violence because it's against people you don't like, don't be surprised when people who are +
LetMeTellYouSomethingAboutHowTheWorldWorks
really good at violence and believe insane things start killing their political enemies. Fascism breeds fascism. Don't use violence on +
LetMeTellYouSomethingAboutHowTheWorldWorks
peaceful people, but don't be scared to use violence when necessary.
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
The phrase "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your freedom to say it" comes to mind. Freedom of speech applies even here.
peppermintgal
Yelling at people with a megaphone that they deserve to be sexually assaulted is not protected speech, its harassment and disturbing the
peppermintgal
peace. If you're going to try to advocate free speech, please learn what it is first.
Zangakkar
Yeah and when people break the law what do you do, hit them with bats or call the fucking cops?
bloodydingo
No what he did was harassment of minors. Potentially a sex offense since it was sexual in nature.
Frozenspokes
Freedom from repurcussions is not guaranteed in the Constitution.
HighImpactSexualViolence
True. And it's important to remember that the constitution only protects you from direct government action.
Mizopoad
No but it is protected in the law. You can't go around assaulting people because you don't like the things they're saying.
WeylandYutaniCorp
Yes you can. You just go to jail for it. ;)