Aug 7, 2019 3:28 PM
Maaatth
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simplefishy
America will be the greatest country in the world, with gun violence
goodnathaniel
These people arent crazy. They know what they are doing and want to do it. It's an education issue. We need to teach them they are wrong
hakunamotherlurkingtata
Maybe... it's because you don't use the metric system.
DirkNurple
It wouldn’t surprise me if we switch this as an attempted solution before changing gun laws.
It depends of the ammo. 9mm and 5.56×45mm or .22 and .357?
FastLaneTalk
It's a social media/news problem that feeds stupid people any garbage and makes them hate one another for no reason.
mynameisacaptcha
We have those. We don't have mass shootings.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Ok but can you IMAGINE how bummed gun owners would be if you took away their coolest, most favoritest toys? Could you live with yourself???
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I would be most sad for loss of my K31 Swiss rifle from 1934.
ItsTheManfromscene24
Oh god here goes the circle jerk again
Gilgamech
How does this already have 11k views?
I posted it as a comment before making it a publication.
WumboPower
Maybe it could be the 17 articles I immediately see about it and the list of deadliest shooting ranked by kill number.
NotHerrVonClaussen
Its a combination of problems. Mental health, illegal arms, propaganda, pockets of lax gun control, gang violence, domestic terrorism, etc
annakata
This. It's your culture. There isn't going to be a simple of fast fix, bug there are fast mitigations.
IsaacZich
It's interesting that they only list gun crime. A lot of these countries have stabbing or bomb attacks against multiple people
jayphat
Knife attacks rarely kill above 2 people. The list above is for shootings classified as 4 deaths or more.
alchemist12345
The US isnt that good on murders per capita either. I think its worse than ANY other EU member country.
JohnMagneTrane
How many grenade attacks? -Sweden
spiko999
Well yes, when we're talking about gun crimes we're going to list gun crimes.
OnlyFunAtAll
Most of those countries are barely as big as a state. USA is an empire, not just a country.
Bassjam
Ok then e.g. Germany is allowed to have 63 deaths related to gun violence but they still have zero.
Ohhh it legitimizes it ? Always an excursion. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
A few states have so many shootings that we don't even talk about them.
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
As someone old enough to have went to school with less gun laws and actually being able to take a gun to school legally. I might disagree.
What years did you go to school? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#1980s
80’s , 90’s
56 school shootings 1986 - 1994, 64 fatalities.
My point is that we had less laws and easy access to guns then with fewer shootings. More laws doesn’t equal less shootings.
What national laws regarding gun access are on the books now that weren't then?
Also know I don’t own a gun. And my brother and niece were killed by guns. But I don’t blame the access of guns as the problem.
hisdudenesselduderino
5 bucks says its actually a healthcare problem... i have a hunch
Leithreas
It's only a healthcare problem if we have the gun control laws to go along with those Healthcare diagnoses. Which we currently don't.
I'm just saying that paying taxes and having nothing to show for it... I get why you would want to shoot a bunch of people.
Oh sure. There was that guy who brought a gun to the hospital to force a doctor to euthanize his hurting son, too, for instance.
What? Gonna need sauce. Because that’s insane.
SithElephant
The CDC is almost forbidden from doing any research on gun violence as a health issue.
Not almost forbidden, actually forbidden.
Thank you for clarifying. Thanks to the gun lobby We HAVE LAWS that prevent research into gun violence and gun deaths, people.
butthurtnevergetsbetter
It seems fairly obvious to make it impossible to legally buy if you're unwell in the head. Or, like, a know violent criminal.
Mental health care is health care. And health care is ultimately a "who pays for it" problem.
thanksfoenothing
Exactly. The unpaid bills get passed along to the next guy. We're paying either way.
We pay for it, with money or more lives.
Just like Ford with the Pinto, modern American companies calculate that lives cost only a limited amount of money. How to say they're wrong?
Just imagine if instead of throwing out trillions to bomb far-off places, the US spent it on health care and education.
I guess it's true, more contacts with health professionals means a mental health issue has more chances to be detected.
mastamage
It's a combination, the mental problem pretend to be God and steers to mimic video games
Oh Jesus Christ you’re as bad as the rest of them. *posts meme identifying the problem* “no it’s actually health care!”
Not even talking about mental issues really. Just living in a country where one health problem can bankrupt your entire family. Its wrong.
But Americans still won't do anything about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We’re trying. Our politicians and conservative media are the problem.
Fair enough, I used "Americans" as a generality. And I guess that if the majority of voters wanted change, it would still be hard to get.
simplefishy
America will be the greatest country in the world, with gun violence
goodnathaniel
These people arent crazy. They know what they are doing and want to do it. It's an education issue. We need to teach them they are wrong
hakunamotherlurkingtata
Maybe... it's because you don't use the metric system.
DirkNurple
It wouldn’t surprise me if we switch this as an attempted solution before changing gun laws.
Maaatth
It depends of the ammo. 9mm and 5.56×45mm or .22 and .357?
FastLaneTalk
It's a social media/news problem that feeds stupid people any garbage and makes them hate one another for no reason.
mynameisacaptcha
We have those. We don't have mass shootings.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Ok but can you IMAGINE how bummed gun owners would be if you took away their coolest, most favoritest toys? Could you live with yourself???
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I would be most sad for loss of my K31 Swiss rifle from 1934.
ItsTheManfromscene24
Oh god here goes the circle jerk again
Gilgamech
How does this already have 11k views?
Maaatth
I posted it as a comment before making it a publication.
WumboPower
Maybe it could be the 17 articles I immediately see about it and the list of deadliest shooting ranked by kill number.
NotHerrVonClaussen
Its a combination of problems. Mental health, illegal arms, propaganda, pockets of lax gun control, gang violence, domestic terrorism, etc
annakata
This. It's your culture. There isn't going to be a simple of fast fix, bug there are fast mitigations.
IsaacZich
It's interesting that they only list gun crime. A lot of these countries have stabbing or bomb attacks against multiple people
jayphat
Knife attacks rarely kill above 2 people. The list above is for shootings classified as 4 deaths or more.
alchemist12345
The US isnt that good on murders per capita either. I think its worse than ANY other EU member country.
JohnMagneTrane
How many grenade attacks? -Sweden
spiko999
Well yes, when we're talking about gun crimes we're going to list gun crimes.
OnlyFunAtAll
Gilgamech
Most of those countries are barely as big as a state. USA is an empire, not just a country.
Bassjam
Ok then e.g. Germany is allowed to have 63 deaths related to gun violence but they still have zero.
OnlyFunAtAll
Ohhh it legitimizes it ? Always an excursion. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
Gilgamech
A few states have so many shootings that we don't even talk about them.
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
As someone old enough to have went to school with less gun laws and actually being able to take a gun to school legally. I might disagree.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
What years did you go to school? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#1980s
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
80’s , 90’s
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
56 school shootings 1986 - 1994, 64 fatalities.
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
My point is that we had less laws and easy access to guns then with fewer shootings. More laws doesn’t equal less shootings.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
What national laws regarding gun access are on the books now that weren't then?
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
Also know I don’t own a gun. And my brother and niece were killed by guns. But I don’t blame the access of guns as the problem.
hisdudenesselduderino
5 bucks says its actually a healthcare problem... i have a hunch
Leithreas
It's only a healthcare problem if we have the gun control laws to go along with those Healthcare diagnoses. Which we currently don't.
hisdudenesselduderino
I'm just saying that paying taxes and having nothing to show for it... I get why you would want to shoot a bunch of people.
Leithreas
Oh sure. There was that guy who brought a gun to the hospital to force a doctor to euthanize his hurting son, too, for instance.
DirkNurple
What? Gonna need sauce. Because that’s insane.
SithElephant
The CDC is almost forbidden from doing any research on gun violence as a health issue.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Not almost forbidden, actually forbidden.
DirkNurple
Thank you for clarifying. Thanks to the gun lobby We HAVE LAWS that prevent research into gun violence and gun deaths, people.
butthurtnevergetsbetter
It seems fairly obvious to make it impossible to legally buy if you're unwell in the head. Or, like, a know violent criminal.
Gilgamech
Mental health care is health care. And health care is ultimately a "who pays for it" problem.
thanksfoenothing
Exactly. The unpaid bills get passed along to the next guy. We're paying either way.
hisdudenesselduderino
We pay for it, with money or more lives.
Gilgamech
Just like Ford with the Pinto, modern American companies calculate that lives cost only a limited amount of money. How to say they're wrong?
butthurtnevergetsbetter
Just imagine if instead of throwing out trillions to bomb far-off places, the US spent it on health care and education.
Gilgamech
Maaatth
I guess it's true, more contacts with health professionals means a mental health issue has more chances to be detected.
mastamage
It's a combination, the mental problem pretend to be God and steers to mimic video games
DirkNurple
Oh Jesus Christ you’re as bad as the rest of them. *posts meme identifying the problem* “no it’s actually health care!”
hisdudenesselduderino
Not even talking about mental issues really. Just living in a country where one health problem can bankrupt your entire family. Its wrong.
Maaatth
But Americans still won't do anything about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DirkNurple
We’re trying. Our politicians and conservative media are the problem.
Maaatth
Fair enough, I used "Americans" as a generality. And I guess that if the majority of voters wanted change, it would still be hard to get.