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SamwiseTheKnave
It's so amazing to me that a man from ages ago is speaking to me almost directly. Humans are pretty cool
Eleshar24
Then you have individuals like Trump.
nextgenericusername
Always upvote stoicism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism
HappyDude2
Shall a just god judge me based on my own measures, or his own? From where does a just god receive his sense of justice?
MogadishuPirates
Would you look at that. Religion was debunked over a 1000 years ago.
mattienoodleclicker
“I drank what?!” - Socrates
PicassoCT
The Kool-Aid, a whole chalice.. CHUG CHUG CHUG
Ripplingtwinkie
100% how I feel
undungubungu
I can recommend Mediations, basicly his diary, and his stoic way of life.
theoldtook
Even as a Christ follower, I strive to live like this.
MaybeTrans
I wish I wasn't so bitter against Christianity. I feel like it really hurt me and destroyed my life.
I can't speak for all Christians, but I am sorry for what happened. We are supposed to be loving and non judgemental.
StarwarsGuy
Unfortunately thats the one that makes me feel inadequate.
I am sincerely sorry for that. Christ wants to meet you where you are and loves you. I love you too even though we haven't met.
FloydChristmas
Aurelius was the Dumbledore if emperors, Commodus; a joker.
Mollygrubber
That's why I call myself a humanist. No bullshit, just doing your best.
mmckee44
Yes, but if you believe, you can live a wild & nasty self centered selfish life, then repent at the end and still live in the memories of ..
2/ .. other believers.
MutteringMisanthrope
everydayvirgo
memento mori
celestedrake
That’s part of my religious belief... Though I use ‘be happy and loving’
jjsjosCreator
TealcOneill
Indeed.
shopCSNtv
My mom called me and my sister to say that God had told her to tell us to repent. Repent for what? “Not living in his light”. Okay....
LovelyMover
Dum spiro spero - Cicero
“While I breathe I hope”
Tabwhor3
The part I'm stuck on is there could be a god and he could be petty, jealous and unjust. That doesn't worry anyone else??
LarvaLamp
Nothing you could do about it, so...
EdwardEH
That used to be my email siggy
deadtedw
Wadakayek
“Pass me the wine” -Julius Caesar -
TheFunionKnight
Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions! -Julius Caesar the emperor formerly known as Gaius Octavius Thurinus
Painkiller1020
"What is this? Bring your knife to work day? And nobody told me!?"
electricwizard
"You better not fucking shank me bitch" famous last words
"What are you gonna do Brutus? Stab me!?"
DarwinsWeasel
I said the wine, not the knives...
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
Also said Nero, as he fiddled.
LurkerOfDarkness
Which was quite a feat, considering violins wouldn't be invented until almost 15 centuries later.
Ten centuries. The fiddle is an allegory, important part is that Romans sweetened wine with lead, which is suspected to be why Nero went>
Nero lived in the first century, the violin was invented in the 16th, earliest records put it in the 1530's. So 15 centuries.
Also there's evidence Nero actually left his holiday villa to rush to Rome to assist.
Nuts. Fiddle or no.
And there’s no dispute that Rome burned like Chicago.
dcchillin46
The meditations is basically my Bible. A guy who literally had the world but still looked inward.
falchi
I have to find my copy!
SatansSockPuppet
"You don't throw your life away going inside..." John Frusciante
ElBivo
He worked endlessly as Emperor, but in the tiny amount of spare time he looked inward with such force and vigour.
coffscreek
He was one of the last good Emperors too.
LesPaulStewart
Pax Romana ended with him. He was an excellent legal mind and surrounded himself with talented people.
AxelTenveils
What? There's like 1000+ years of Empire after him. There are other good emperors after, if you mean capable.
I guess I mean Western Empire.
Well he was the last of the so called 5 good emperor's
stankginchfurbuger
Left a dumpster fire for an heir though. Maybe should have spent some time playing ball with the boy or something
Ipooprainbows
Well, he had a plague that killed him and most of his people so there is that.
Eh he tried pretty hard to get a decent heir. I think the lesson of Rome is giving kids godlike power while maturing may not be the best
Half fair. The Empire was in such a strong state that it survived for centuries, taxes collected, armies fed and laws in force.
Scrappy1841
Have you not heard of the Antoine plague? Killed a massive amount of the citizens. This caused massive changes to be made in the army which
Dude, that was 300 (THREE HUNDRED) years before the Western Empire fell!
Things in that time build upon each other, the dedication of the legion led to the fall of the empire
Led to a weakened Rome. Yes they beat back the gauls and yes commodious should have gone forward and conquered them instead of suing for
Peace, but it was a combination of plague and lack of leadership that led to the fall of Rome. M. Areolus was the best man and emperor for
FrolickingFrolicking
have you read Montaigne too
Haven't heard of that one, I'll have to look in to it
ChupaChena
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Montaigne was a little bitch. The contemplations are fairly clever though.
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ycsliesmith
believe in idiotic quotes like ones that imply an ancient roman had the concept of love, invented in the 12th century by frenchmen - lincoln
RebelSkull
Lol you serious?
yeah, lincoln really did say that
Not sure I trust you, lie smith. So you’re saying that Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln said love doesn’t exist
He was a scholar of medieval ballads.
MRNate
Define “good”
Scraping the lake of fire and rape waiting for most people would be a "good" start
FrankTheCube
I just go with”Try not to act like a cunt”. That covers most situations.
look out marcus aurelius meditations. after that you'll get a pretty good idea what's good
Does it include the sacking and looting cities after they surrender? Because that’s an important part for me.
mormacil
Lets start with the golden rule
MonstarOfficial
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stoicism/comments/5275qg/how_many_of_you_are_vegans/
Mimsey
lmao that seems dumb. All things die. Humans evolved to eat meat. Where is the ethical dilemma in killing to eat?
Haha is that why a plant based diet is healthy at all stages of life ? And that red and processed meat is carcinogenic ?
The dilemma is that you don't have to slaughter/abuse those animals to eat and be healthy.
Imakethingsweird
But what if I am god and unjust?
Meandme2
It fucking says there! If there are gods but unjust you should not want to worship them. Is it that difficult???
bekkayya
that means you're venomous. Wait no..
InquisitorMoloko
Then you’ll allow Slaanesh to consume the souls of the Eldar
jahondabeat420
Found the Imperials Child
Im on board then
WhatRaySay
If you told these poor bastards about the nonsensical bullshit people believe almost 2000 years into their future they'd jump off a cliff
barnwolf
They'd probably be amazed at how little violence and war there is.
That's the opposite of Stoicism, and in fact, Meditations is full of advice for dealing with the endless tide of human stupidity.
I'm sure you're correct, I was just making a dumb joke. From what little I know of Aurelius it's clear he was a very wise and observant man.
One of the coolest things about Stoic philosophy is it seems to be timeless.
[deleted]
The last few years have shown that our collective intelligence has not increased.
SamwiseTheKnave
It's so amazing to me that a man from ages ago is speaking to me almost directly. Humans are pretty cool
Eleshar24
Then you have individuals like Trump.
nextgenericusername
Always upvote stoicism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism
HappyDude2
Shall a just god judge me based on my own measures, or his own? From where does a just god receive his sense of justice?
MogadishuPirates
Would you look at that. Religion was debunked over a 1000 years ago.
mattienoodleclicker
“I drank what?!” - Socrates
PicassoCT
The Kool-Aid, a whole chalice.. CHUG CHUG CHUG
Ripplingtwinkie
100% how I feel
undungubungu
I can recommend Mediations, basicly his diary, and his stoic way of life.
theoldtook
Even as a Christ follower, I strive to live like this.
MaybeTrans
I wish I wasn't so bitter against Christianity. I feel like it really hurt me and destroyed my life.
theoldtook
I can't speak for all Christians, but I am sorry for what happened. We are supposed to be loving and non judgemental.
StarwarsGuy
Unfortunately thats the one that makes me feel inadequate.
theoldtook
I am sincerely sorry for that. Christ wants to meet you where you are and loves you. I love you too even though we haven't met.
FloydChristmas
Aurelius was the Dumbledore if emperors, Commodus; a joker.
Mollygrubber
That's why I call myself a humanist. No bullshit, just doing your best.
mmckee44
Yes, but if you believe, you can live a wild & nasty self centered selfish life, then repent at the end and still live in the memories of ..
mmckee44
2/ .. other believers.
MutteringMisanthrope
everydayvirgo
memento mori
celestedrake
That’s part of my religious belief... Though I use ‘be happy and loving’
jjsjosCreator
TealcOneill
Indeed.
shopCSNtv
My mom called me and my sister to say that God had told her to tell us to repent. Repent for what? “Not living in his light”. Okay....
LovelyMover
Dum spiro spero - Cicero
LovelyMover
“While I breathe I hope”
Tabwhor3
The part I'm stuck on is there could be a god and he could be petty, jealous and unjust. That doesn't worry anyone else??
LarvaLamp
Nothing you could do about it, so...
EdwardEH
That used to be my email siggy
deadtedw
Wadakayek
“Pass me the wine” -Julius Caesar -
TheFunionKnight
Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions! -Julius Caesar the emperor formerly known as Gaius Octavius Thurinus
Painkiller1020
"What is this? Bring your knife to work day? And nobody told me!?"
electricwizard
"You better not fucking shank me bitch" famous last words
Painkiller1020
"What are you gonna do Brutus? Stab me!?"
DarwinsWeasel
I said the wine, not the knives...
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
Also said Nero, as he fiddled.
LurkerOfDarkness
Which was quite a feat, considering violins wouldn't be invented until almost 15 centuries later.
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
Ten centuries. The fiddle is an allegory, important part is that Romans sweetened wine with lead, which is suspected to be why Nero went>
LurkerOfDarkness
Nero lived in the first century, the violin was invented in the 16th, earliest records put it in the 1530's. So 15 centuries.
LurkerOfDarkness
Also there's evidence Nero actually left his holiday villa to rush to Rome to assist.
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
Nuts. Fiddle or no.
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
And there’s no dispute that Rome burned like Chicago.
dcchillin46
The meditations is basically my Bible. A guy who literally had the world but still looked inward.
falchi
I have to find my copy!
SatansSockPuppet
"You don't throw your life away going inside..." John Frusciante
ElBivo
He worked endlessly as Emperor, but in the tiny amount of spare time he looked inward with such force and vigour.
coffscreek
He was one of the last good Emperors too.
LesPaulStewart
Pax Romana ended with him. He was an excellent legal mind and surrounded himself with talented people.
AxelTenveils
What? There's like 1000+ years of Empire after him. There are other good emperors after, if you mean capable.
coffscreek
I guess I mean Western Empire.
TheFunionKnight
Well he was the last of the so called 5 good emperor's
stankginchfurbuger
Left a dumpster fire for an heir though. Maybe should have spent some time playing ball with the boy or something
Ipooprainbows
Well, he had a plague that killed him and most of his people so there is that.
dcchillin46
Eh he tried pretty hard to get a decent heir. I think the lesson of Rome is giving kids godlike power while maturing may not be the best
ElBivo
Half fair. The Empire was in such a strong state that it survived for centuries, taxes collected, armies fed and laws in force.
Scrappy1841
Have you not heard of the Antoine plague? Killed a massive amount of the citizens. This caused massive changes to be made in the army which
ElBivo
Dude, that was 300 (THREE HUNDRED) years before the Western Empire fell!
Scrappy1841
Things in that time build upon each other, the dedication of the legion led to the fall of the empire
Scrappy1841
Led to a weakened Rome. Yes they beat back the gauls and yes commodious should have gone forward and conquered them instead of suing for
Scrappy1841
Peace, but it was a combination of plague and lack of leadership that led to the fall of Rome. M. Areolus was the best man and emperor for
FrolickingFrolicking
have you read Montaigne too
dcchillin46
Haven't heard of that one, I'll have to look in to it
ChupaChena
.
Eleshar24
Montaigne was a little bitch. The contemplations are fairly clever though.
FrolickingFrolicking
ycsliesmith
believe in idiotic quotes like ones that imply an ancient roman had the concept of love, invented in the 12th century by frenchmen - lincoln
RebelSkull
Lol you serious?
ycsliesmith
yeah, lincoln really did say that
RebelSkull
Not sure I trust you, lie smith. So you’re saying that Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln said love doesn’t exist
ycsliesmith
He was a scholar of medieval ballads.
MRNate
Define “good”
Tabwhor3
Scraping the lake of fire and rape waiting for most people would be a "good" start
FrankTheCube
I just go with”Try not to act like a cunt”. That covers most situations.
my1rstlaptopwas34inchscreenup
look out marcus aurelius meditations. after that you'll get a pretty good idea what's good
MRNate
Does it include the sacking and looting cities after they surrender? Because that’s an important part for me.
mormacil
Lets start with the golden rule
MonstarOfficial
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stoicism/comments/5275qg/how_many_of_you_are_vegans/
Mimsey
lmao that seems dumb. All things die. Humans evolved to eat meat. Where is the ethical dilemma in killing to eat?
MonstarOfficial
Haha is that why a plant based diet is healthy at all stages of life ? And that red and processed meat is carcinogenic ?
MonstarOfficial
The dilemma is that you don't have to slaughter/abuse those animals to eat and be healthy.
Imakethingsweird
But what if I am god and unjust?
Meandme2
It fucking says there! If there are gods but unjust you should not want to worship them. Is it that difficult???
bekkayya
that means you're venomous. Wait no..
InquisitorMoloko
Then you’ll allow Slaanesh to consume the souls of the Eldar
jahondabeat420
Found the Imperials Child
Imakethingsweird
Im on board then
WhatRaySay
If you told these poor bastards about the nonsensical bullshit people believe almost 2000 years into their future they'd jump off a cliff
barnwolf
They'd probably be amazed at how little violence and war there is.
Mimsey
That's the opposite of Stoicism, and in fact, Meditations is full of advice for dealing with the endless tide of human stupidity.
WhatRaySay
I'm sure you're correct, I was just making a dumb joke. From what little I know of Aurelius it's clear he was a very wise and observant man.
Mimsey
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deadtedw
The last few years have shown that our collective intelligence has not increased.