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My mother is a 70-yr-old teacher, and she struggled with even the simplest tech tasks five years ago. But she worked and worked and learned and got better. She's not great, not fast, but so much better. And I am damn proud of her.
Cherish your teachers. They do what they do bc they love doing it. It's not for the pittance they're paid, or the mostly meager insurance packages, or the bare bones retirement, or glory, or recognition. They just love helping young people grow into well-adjusted and well-rounded older people. They do it because they're special. And they think you are too.
Ricothorton
If you can't teach the class because you don't understand the thing you need to to teach. Don't teach. Get someone who can?
Evanrudeplz
Dad was a teacher, both my in laws were teachers. Be nice to teachers, even if we're not in a global pandemic.
PhailRaptor
For the teachers out there...
RideTheStimutacs
The fact that most teachers don't get free tech training and have to figure it out themselves is bonkers.
Antrazit
Some are. Some are entitled dicks.
Gholateg
I still have rage issues over how utterly useless my teachers were. No one cared until I fought back, then suddenly there was a "problem."
tacticalattackterriers
While there's no way to collect an objective statistic, I'd say a majority are, the shitty ones are just way louder in our memories.
mustbethedragon
Teacher here. I think we're all drowning right now.
peastream
Ive taught for 15 years in the same district and Its not the content that is valuable, but HOW to access it and WHAT to do with it. Also...
peastream
I want young adults to become successful citizens in the community. and I do NOT want to grow old and have morons take care of me.
IDunkedMyTesticlesInMayo
I spent a while volunteering with AGE UK a few hours a week helping older people contact families and things, setting up Skype, Facebook 1/2
IDunkedMyTesticlesInMayo
I always remember how happy they were to see family members on the screen who they've not been able to see for some years.
spinsymmetry
My girlfriend doubles as both teacher and IT at her school. It's been absolute hell for her the past few weeks.
linearcore
Be nice to her. She's gonna need it.
pandastrafe
The trick is to ask students for help with it.
blackrasputin
Be nice to your teachers learning new things is hard for them. Teachers: I don’t care if you have a note you’re 1min late that’s detention.
flover
Pfff 1 min? You better come in like a ninja! Flips and all.
c2youlv
Can confirm the practice part. I’ve been meeting w/my counterparts and we take turns being students for each other. It’s a comedy of errors
delybee
Thank you for posting this. It’s different when it’s your parents and we want the best for them too.
catsandcoke
I have friends in their 50’s that are fine with technology. This isn’t an age issue. People in their 50’s saw the dawn of the internet and
catsandcoke
grew with it. My mom is in her 70’s and seems to know more than people my age. This is solely the responsibility of the individual.
normalizebeingalone
Teachers were never taught to teach this way, students were never taught to learn this way.
normalizebeingalone
That's not to say it's not now a great added resource but we were unprepared and leagues behind
JBadger
My husband just started his second year teaching. He figured he'd teach his kids how to use the tech first and use the subject as practice
tacticalattackterriers
Makes sense. With how wonky everyone's curriculum timeline has gotten in the last year, it's not like they'll be any farther behind.
tacticalattackterriers
Expectations/norms before textbooks is already a thing in the regular classroom; it should be here, too!
tacticalattackterriers
If he's already planning like this, I bet your husband will do great! His kids will really appreciate him c:
Technomage13
Kids, this is how to clear the cache on your browser.
BigOrkWaaagh
This is incognito mode, grandpa.
BlueEyedTrixxyHobbit
My high school home room teacher was fresh out of school so the morning start time was a tough adjustment for him. Used to bring him
BlueEyedTrixxyHobbit
A coffee and take the attendance and drop it off on my way to my first class. In turn if I was ever late he would change my “ tardy” to
BlueEyedTrixxyHobbit
“ present”. 3 tardy’s was 1 absence and 5 absences ment you failed the year.
Lobuttomize
Old people can't even figure out how to turn on a projector for some reason
snomang
+1 to all teachers
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
At 53 you should know how to use a fucking computer sorry (give or take extreme poverty, geographical location, amishness)
illogical06
I wish the best. Kids are not known to be very empathetic. Something something brain development something 25.
voldead
Wait what? Your dad is 53 and mom 70?
easyoneundone
in a socialist country the teachers would get paid enough, have paid vacations and would have retired with 65. do you know that, Americans?
ConLawHero
Finnish teachers (highest regarded in the world) earn a bit over 40k euros/yr on average. Also, most US teachers can retire at 55 or 62.
LittleCutiePie
Being mean to your teachers for doing their best to help you is how you grow up to be a Karen. Do you want to grow up to be a Karen?
aesthesia1
Poor people have shitty teachers lmao
CorwinMaximus
Can I speak to your manager? How dare you?
gbh2
Or a Kyle.
WarmPineNeedles
You were downvoted by the one person who grew up to be a Karen and refuses to believe that her childhood assholery is to blame.
Oteneo
goes both ways, half the teachers i had in high school pretty much hated kids or were only nice to cheerleaders and jocks.
aesthesia1
I had teachers actively bully me. My school had a teacher encourage race war. I guess rich kids remember school differently.
ARoseByAnotherUsernameWouldSmellAsSweet
To be fair I was a dick to my teachers, but I didn‘t skip the „learn from your mistakes“ step, that fucken helps
LittleCutiePie
I am upvoting this because of your username :)
ARoseByAnotherUsernameWouldSmellAsSweet
Thanks haha
Darkspire
Teachers are under a lot more stress now too. Their work load has dramatically increased over the years. So much is expected
cartmanstitss
Can we please stop saying karen so much. It doesnt even make sense in this context. Karen's are way different not every negative trait is a
cartmanstitss
A karen move. They're specifically "I wanna speak to your manager assholes" and they have specific not vague negative traits
cartmanstitss
It's just a buzzword for this person sucks now and is said constantly it grinds my gears stop saying it so much and use it right lol
Ricothorton
Expecting your teachers to be good in their field and not 'struggling' to keep up. Jesus,
JeffGriffin
I only got kicked out of class twice.
ChetarRuby
Please find a new word. Using a name that lots of perfectly normal people have is pretty awful.
purgethefilthyheretics
Some teachers are mean to their students for trying to learn. Maybe we should all just try not to be mean at all eh
BenSnow97
careful, the last guy who said that ended up on a cross
FezWa
Booklover4life
Pretty sure he wasn’t the last guy to say that. His story was just the most embellished and most published for others enrichment.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
What did he say to them? Be kind to each other. Oh, yeah, that'd do it.
ShamalamaDingDing
Ricothorton
Yeah but why are 70 year olds teaching? They can't get someone who knows tech? 70? Work to death in the us
LorindaLogan
Everyone is learning how to deal with this for the first time. Being a noob is curable, being an asshole isn't.
LadyYmir
hmm, teaching boomers, both the literal and figurative kind, how to handle technology could be a legitimate business venture.
LadyYmir
Aside from helping them navigate through the modern jungle of tech, it might just make someone's day to see their gramps make a spreadsheet.
FreebooterFox
I dunno, lots of libraries offer those kind of courses for free.
BannedGeek
Also, teachers, be nice to IT. Were in this shit, too. (I just became IT... from being a teacher)
miados
I actually had someone call me (im in IT) saying his computer wasn't on. When i asked what happened when he hit the power button i was 1/2
miados
told "I haven't done that yet." to date only are you f(*%#ing kidding me call i've had. the rest i can explain away but that one....
BannedGeek
I had that happen today. She was super nice and it was a micro pc. She woulda found it if she wasn't looking for a tower.
SteveMND
Now all you need to do is become an IT teacher, and the circle will be complete.
BannedGeek
God no. I taught a tech class for k8 for 8 months. No thanks. If I ever teach again ill be back to music
suik
if everything works, nobody notices us, if nothing works, it's all our fault (speaking for IT guys)
devasto
From the frying pan directly to the fire
BannedGeek
I'm technically contracted out so I can leave when my contract says so. Thankfully not employed by any particular school
linearcore
tacticalattackterriers
I'm always afraid I'll look dumb, so I'm overly apologetic, until the IT guy is like "no, you know when to stop trying to 'fix' it your...
BannedGeek
My former/new coworker (long story, basically he poached me) told me a lot of our tickets will be them on step 10 and us on 11...
tacticalattackterriers
Like, they get it most of the way there to expedite it on your end, or they mangle it by only halfway knowing what they're doing?
BannedGeek
Column a, column b. Plus knowing how to Google things properly
tacticalattackterriers
...self. That already makes this way easier for me to deal with."
Rascal101
I did this today at my job. Guess who is getting a new scanner as soon as corporate allows?!!
flover
Our IT quit, we have a group of slightly techy teachers filling in. I am one, holy crow it's been awful.
BannedGeek
That was me when out it was sick
SpammaJamma
tacticalattackterriers
I mean, sometimes, it depends on who they're imitating/testing. I work with k-6, and while each group requires different personalities...
tacticalattackterriers
...to lead them, you can figure them out pretty quick "who" they need. If it doesn't work the first day, I can just apologize and go "oh...
tacticalattackterriers
...sorry, I had just gotten done dealing with a different/younger group of kids, and accidentally was still in (OTHER) mode. I'll remember..
tacticalattackterriers
...to actually go back to my NORMAL personality to teach you guys, this time." Because they all want to assume that their personality is...
tacticalattackterriers
...the "real grownup" one.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
I was a substitute teacher for a little bit. The 8th graders were the shittiest for sure. I think some of it is being the oldest in the 1/
Youmustconstructadditionalpylonss
Middle school is a hard age to be in and teach in, requires a lot of patience.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
school (either K-8 or middle school). Hopefully they all get shit on as HS freshmen.
blairmichod
Is there a real explanation why it's so hard for older people to learn computers?
schlummi
Depends on open mindedness, lifelong learning etc. Lots of people struggle with tech. I had teachers struggling with overhead projectors.
schlummi
These were neither new nor complicated: these teachers were just to lazy to find out how they work and let pupils fix it for them.
dogestyle
the older you get, the harder it is to assimilate new concepts or ideas, especially if you haven't learned new things in a while.
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
At 53 you're not "old" you were literally 33 in 2000, how have you not learned to use a computer as a fucking teacher by now
dogestyle
Computers have changed a lot, it's a leap from Windows 98 to Windows 10. I'm tech savvy but W10 confuses me
vinospam2000
One of things where you have to experience it to understand it. The good thing is that EVERYONE will experience it at some point!
Thisbefluff
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m not even old and I find certain things like setting up a router/ wifi extender frustrating. Ill search for a solution but 1/
Thisbefluff
I’ve noticed my ‘wah, just make it work’ attitude increasing. I do simple problem solving in excel etc but not much
miados
anything in your first ten years of life is your foundation. anything in the next ten is built upon it as you grow. beyond that it is 1/2
miados
stuff you dont have the time to dedicate to learning it like you did casually having it be part of normal life.
saganworshipper
I deal with a lot of fear. My colleagues are afraid of doing something wrong and "breaking it". Also afraid of viruses and hackers.
Lsai
My dad learned that fear the hard way. back in the early 90s. "I don't need this 'my computer' icon on the desktop" Delete [you sure]... 1/2
Lsai
"yup, DELETE" [ok...] computer shuts down, won't boot, no c drive
saganworshipper
That was a thing. Some of us had to learn the hard way. A few years back, I shut down a WIN10 endpoint during an MS update...
Lsai
I'll say the same to you as my 14 year old self told my dad back then, GOOD JOB! :)
tacticalattackterriers
Older people have a hard time learning new systems in general. Think language, cooking methods, religion reforms, etc.
tacticalattackterriers
Computers in particular, depending on the person's age, have been put in this big scary "YOU WILL BE OBSOLETE" box, which adds to the ...
tacticalattackterriers
...stress of learning a new system, when their ability to do so had already started declining between the ages of 12-25.
tacticalattackterriers
Although some people keep that mental elasticity up all the way through their adulthood, obviously.
blairmichod
It's kind of terrifying to have to deal with something like that.
RedemptionxCv
Imagine in the future when we have movement tracking tech, a simple swipe can be to start a call or shutting lights on or off
Shamorza
As an older person: When I was young I was receptive to new ideas. But nowadays, I have only one major interest and that is to (1 of 2)
Shamorza
2/2 bang UR mom
tacticalattackterriers
Lawd knows someone's gotta.
analnipple666
Gotemmmmm
dogestyle
Your mom is 70 and still has to work? What kind of travesty is that?
Itchy73
Yeah. Theres a chance she should retire and let people with less seniority in if possible. I have friends who are teachers and cant get work
butterflymkm
The retirement age for most here in the US pushes up past 72 to get full benefits unfortunately :(
butterflymkm
But some also choose to work because they love it and/or keeps them busy.
chiquitalatina
My mom is 70 and a full time professor. She loves it! She’s teaching remotely this fall, is terrified of Zoom but she says, “I can do it!”
icer190
My dad is in his late 60s, and will likely work until he dies. Because he loves his job.
EccentricNimoy
I work in retail food and have a fellow full timer who is that age. Shes does it because her sons girlfriend wants her out of his house
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
Some people like to work, in fact most people who retire end up volunteering or getting a part time job just to stay busy. Then there are
liveitup1
Lots of females also take off to raise kids and come back later on, still need to reach retirement requirement
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
people like my mom who were never able to afford significant retirement savings and therefore won't be able to retire at all.
miados
maybe she likes it? my grandpa kept doing his job, albeit part time, until he was about 87 iirc. even after retirement.
AnathemaNoreh
That's why it is impossible for new teachers to get in. Teachers take forever to retire, come back to take all the sub jobs
miados
oh my grandpa was a pastor. I just said he kept doing his job not that he kept teaching. heck most times he didn't get paid to work.
dogestyle
That's nice, but unless you have to keep working for sustenance, doesn't it prevent someone in the younger generation from getting that job?
6313326
Not so much in the US, at least not with teachers. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/06/us/international-teachers-us-shortage/index.html
Veraatje01
I guess, but that younger dude doesn't have any more right to that job than grandpa does, imo.
juicynibbler
The amount of people that work full time past 70 has to be pretty small I would think
dogestyle
And I hope only because they want to