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If you as a business can't pay wages to sustain rent and bills and basic human needs, then you as a business are not eligible to hire someone and your business can be sued for fraud
Aug 19, 2026 10:48 AM
HummingBirrb
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If you as a business can't pay wages to sustain rent and bills and basic human needs, then you as a business are not eligible to hire someone and your business can be sued for fraud
makesense
I mean, 'responsibility' and 'desire' are two different things.
akefay
Around here there was a kerfuffle about some business not hiring people who ask about the pay. Like, the job postings say competitive pay, and if you ask how much, interview ended instantly. They went on TV to address it and were like "we want people motivated by something higher than money". And of course the answer was really that you're an independent contractor and paid by deliverables i.e. less than minimum wage.
nowinsituation
If the business can create an incentive whereby you gain some profit as well, then it makes sense. That would be a well run business. Have a stake in the profits, or a promise of a bonus based on performance with measurable acknowledgments for your contribution and effort. Otherwise, what's the point other than to pay our bills?
YouCanCallMeAnything
I just lie on those. They lie to me I lie to them. They don't value me, we both know it, so I do the bare minimum and clock out the second the clock strikes. I don't give one shit about the shareholders or the management. I'm here because I have kids to feed.
LespritDeLescalier22
Woogyface
A: Hate yourself; B: Love yourself; C: Love yourself; D: Love yourself
sorry the correct answer is A
Shoutrr
the thing is, it's your responsibility, at your job, to help the business operate and make a profit. It's the business responsibility to ensure its workers are adequately paid for their time and experience. (and by adequate, i mean at least a living wage)
The answer given would have been correct if the question was "what is your goal in acquiring this job?" -> to afford living
VagrantKoba
No! It is your responsibility at your job to do your job to a level of steady efficiency that you can maintain for your workday/week and that satisfies the requirements of your position as safely as possible and without causing harm or affecting other people's safety. It is the company's responsibility to best manage the workload to provide profit and reduce turnover and burnout.
Imjurbro
I think this is being lost. Your job is to help the company do the company stuff. Their job is to pay you, according to your value. The question isn’t - wrong - it’s just the trust in the second half is totally gone and it makes it all feel absurd.
Frenchgeek
Well, if I don't make a profit, I'll certainly not help the business operate...
areyouelonmusk
Living wage isn't good enough. Thriving wage is the lowest bar. If you work full time you should be thriving. There's no excuse for it to be any other way, when it can be any way we choose. It should be illegal to gain wealth by exploiting a human need for basics like food and shelter and healthcare.
Eldibs
I could see it if they were asking "What is your primary JOB responsibility?" as in, "What did we hire you to do?" But that is not what they asked. Ask the question you want answered, and don't be mad when the question you asked is the one that gets answered.
Mark0ftheBeast
Dox the corp. Ffs
foxpotate
Entitled gold bricking bums want their slaves back.
Tattooedpariah
Yeeeeeaaaars ago, i applied at the local Circuit City (yeah, i said it was years ago...), one of the interview questions was about upselling and convincing people to buy things they don't need. I asked. "So, if someone comes in and doesn't own a tv you want me to try and sell them a vcr?" They said yes. I left the interview.
ChelVanin
I’ll take my business to Radioshack, thank you very much.
Tattooedpariah
Yeah, i nornally did, but i was a teenager trying to score a discount on cd's and video games.. 😅
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SteveTheEgg
This never would have happened at the twelve Radio Shacks I managed.
Tattooedpariah
Lol, right?! ;) 😂
Skuggen
I mean, it's obvious what answer they want, but the fact they ask the question is a big red flag all on its own, so unless I was desperate that would be the point I just quit the process.
GrimleyGraves
At that point I'd start getting really unhinged with my answers, especially the essay questions.
3nd3rwiggin
Pisses me off that you do not typically get to these questions until you have spent a significant amount of time applying for the role.
Xcallion1
Dunno about everyone else, but whenever I'm looking for a job, it's always got an undercurrent of desperation to it.
HandoB4Javert
TheBraveCompanions
Yes! I’m astounded at how brazen this is. It’s an unspoken understanding that employment is a mutually beneficial relationship: money for work. To say, “we don’t care about your money, you’re here for us and we need you to KNOW that” is scary
eathotdog
Americans are so used to it if you say this in say a grocery store or any other minimum wage retail hellscape people look at you like your an insane evil commie
SomeFukinWizard
We need to elect politicians that are on our side again. We need a defense against dystopia. I finally found a job with a mom and pop business I love and I'm afraid that if I have to go back to american corporate... Honestly I'd rather try brushing my teeth with a blunderbuss than go back to that. I'm kinda joking but - also not. I've found a dream job and I don't think I can go back to that nightmare.
Slugsie
I'm sorry, but what? The business is trying to dictate what my motivations are? It can f*ck right off.
nichfra
They ask for responsibilities not for motivations.
Avilan1972
Imagine actually believing anyone would answer 1. and mean it.
soniclettuce
I feel like you are misinterpreting what "responsibility" means? It doesn't mean why are you applying, or what you want to do. If I get a new job as a shit-shoveler, my primary responsibility is to shovel shit. It doesn't mean I like it or want to do it, but that's what i'm responsible for...
Avilan1972
My primary responsibility is to make sure I, and my family, can make a living. Not help a company make a profit. I will not sabotage the company, but it has never nor will never be my primary responsibility.
Unless of course the company actually would consider their primary responsibility to make sure I can live well on the wages they pay me of course. Then that's fair. I help them make a profit, they make sure to prioritize my wages over everything else. Deal.
soniclettuce
We need to actually read in context though. "Taking care of your family" is a responsibility all the time, regardless of you having/getting a job. "You get a job, what is your responsibility" is clearly asking about the responsibilities in that context...
freakdiablo
One thing that had my new boss did to gain my respect was during this year's performance reviews. As in I didn't get one. I just checked my bank account and saw I got the standard 2% raise and 3% bonus.
when asked, boss said, "Dude, you're doing great - Keep doing that. The company sucks, wouldn't sign off on me giving anyone more than the rubber stamp treatment, and we'd just be wasting time with the review." Was a little nervous thinking that'd be my last day, but that was 6 months ago.
CUBErk
The answers are a formula:
1. The correct human Answer
2. The answer they want
3. Dumb answer
4. Dumb answer
Very similar to driving tests.
BobJones786
"The only way to win the game . . . is to not play the game."
ineedausernamerightmeow
Technically....
Responsibility to whom?
It's my goal to earn enough to pay bills. It's my responsibility to my family to earn enough and stay employed.
My responsibility to the employer is different than those.
meigea11
They have to pay us enough to *live*
chata954
Daycare shoild be subsidized
ActionJohnnie
Question #38
Urgalicity
Name the company so we can publicly shame them properly!
THUB
This is like the "there are 4 lights" of the modern corporate world
youreathing
I share the same interests as my employer actually. Extract maximum value (from them) for minimum effort (from me).
Racealistic
Yeh if you have me jumping through hoops before im even hired like this you can get fucked as a business and person. Here's my resume if its adequate invite for interview.
Munchman347
Once they get you to choose the 'right' answer, they can wave it in your face whenever you ask for a raise...
Mcmaclassie
I remember one where they had a portion of an IQ test as part of their application. For a simple data entry gig. I think I'm glad I didn't get an interview with that company.
unluckyandbored
If the company had its way, they would enslave you. I mean literal slavery. They would force you to work for them, for free, until you drop from exhaustion.
squillis
They asked for your responsibility, not your goal. As an employee, you are expected to contribute. A living wage is the offered exchange for this responsibility that allpws you to fulfil your goal of paying your bills
Brennusthecelt
At best, most companies want indentured servants, not employees with a stake in the business. Worker-owned enterprises are the future. This grotesque neo-feudalism needs to become a thing of the past.
TrippyTurtle69
Is that the same as "Employee owned?" Because I work at an "employee owned" company and I tell you we have absolutely no say in any decision whatsoever.
Phosphatidylethanolamine
do7rkb5n
They forgot to include dynamic pricing, or maybe it was suggested by the 4th one.
NickRivieraMD
Preach! Co-ops are the way forward. We can do it.
Brennusthecelt
Hi Dr Nick!
PileOfWalthers
The irony is, I have more of an ownership stake in companies thru my 401k and stock portfolio, than I had in East Germany's "People's Owned Enterprises"
neithermenoryou
Yes, and the nazis called themselves socialists despite not having had any socialist policies while completely demolishing any and all existing worker's rights and unions, and north korea calls themselves a democracy and hasn't had a single free election in about 50 years.
Words tend to not hold their meaning when they're used by people with an intent to mislead, like Stalin did as a practicing authoritarian instead of following actual communist principles like he claimed.
This shouldn't be news
PileOfWalthers
You’ll laugh, the Nazis had plenty of socialist policies. Only for the right kind of people because let’s face it they WERE the baddies. But mandatory paid vacation, paid maternity leave, universal healthcare, affordable housing, free education.
neithermenoryou
They didn't have mandatory paid vacation days, maternity leave wasn't a thing because women were largely fired from all jobs to become house wives, and only returned to work as the dragged on, universal healthcare was a joke for all but the richest party members and they removed vaccine mandates for everyone but service members,, housing only got even more expensive than it already was, education was already free before they came into power.
Maybe try learning actual history first.
astrangehop
Hah! Yeah, My total in company shares after 10 years is worth about 25000 dollars. However -
We pay a good 20 percent more than other manufacturing jobs in the area
The company's growth is based on stability and long term profits since the owners are the workers. We own the building and stuff.
Our shares went from about 1.50 to 17.00 in that time
Lots of other stuff
Monolithe503
Hmm
Brennusthecelt
Then it wasn't really a people's owned enterprise; much like how our government "of, by, and for the people" only seems interested in representing the needs of the wealthy.
Every self-serving oligarchy travels the same destructive path.
PileOfWalthers
Dunno what to tell you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkseigener_Betrieb
Brennusthecelt
I'm actually not sure what you're trying to tell me. Can you explain a bit more about your time working in East Germany?
PileOfWalthers
I could. Will I? No.
viva93
the crazy thing is, I've been working corporate for 12 years now just as almost an outsider but not quite by being IT. So I see literally every department. What's crazy is how many indentured servants they actually obtain and breed. People of all ages and generations who very absolutely and firmly hold true to their company so much so they will and have abandoned their families. Ive seen it all and Ive seen armies of them. Even a guy who cme in the same morning his newborn suddenly died. Jfc...