Jan 6, 2016 9:33 PM
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BrobiwanKenobro
Can I just get a main chick? I don't even want a second, just a first would be great.
pyrobob4
http://imgur.com/m5T4JYK
HanShotFirst39
Perfect.
Awkwardpebble
Finally someone said something about the side chick
Blasfemur
Is it a real thing? Like, not an internet thing? I only see the term "side chick" when reading /r/blackpeopletwitter.
All I know is cheating is a real thing, and the "side chick" stuff glorifies it. Some of it makes me chuckle but it's actually pretty gross.
ElTigreChang
"MY OPINIONS ARE RIGHT!" -OP
bufferkiller
See you on the front page, OP. v
Martyr99
Have my up vote for Starship Troopers.
whenallelsefails
And being Bisexual is a real thing & does not mean your just a wishy washy slut
lurkinginpublic
Bisexuality is by far the most common sexual orientation according to the Kinsey Institute. Actual sexual activity levels notwithstanding.
r00bKapow
I get sad that Biphobia can come from people who define as gay :(
FiftyShadesOfHueHueHue
I think it's honestly worse from gay people than straight people. At least for guys it is.
Gotta love living the bi-life <3
cheddarhat
Moses did a better job.
iKnowMostlyRandomFacts
GET OUT OF MY MIND
UDBV
With you on most of this. All except like two lines, but whatever.
KrisKringlez
We all have different opinions....We should be free to think and feel what we like,just dont be a stuck up self centered prick about it
The problem is that with some of these things, having an opposing view means you're a stuck up prick. Not all views are created equal.
IHopeIDontHaveToRememberThis
Circle jerk?
RabbiShmuley
Yes have some.
AllTheBondGirls
Circle jerk.
DastardlyDinosaur
It's always a circle jerk...
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
Jircle cerk
Lobsterwaffle
I'll get the lube
hotyoungchick
"Gays deserve basic human rights" - This looks like an agreeable opinion until you realize that "Gays deserve equal rights" is more correct.
goda90
Let's keep the basic human rights thing in there. I'd rather not face a world where both straights and gays are equally enslaved by someone
completelyunreIated
He knows what he said
121AAD
Coming from a non western Nation the Boner you guys have for worshping and glorifying someone for the sex they like is so fucking funny
Sound like mindless drones that repeat whatever your TV says, I guess this is why the West is so economically stagnate, so much stupid
ZRod
You forgot to mention the most developed and highest quality of life. Equal rights does that as you don't simply squabble over oppression.
thefreestyler
Haha! Rekt! :D The "mindless drones" part is especially rich coming from someone perpetuating conservative values.
How is giving someone equal rights "worshipping and glorifying" them?
ThermiteKitten
Equal isn't quite right, I prefer equivalent rights. Blindly making everything the same doesn't always make things fair.
ThePakistallion
Profound shit you just said. Not everyone realizes this.
ninjafinity
Though to me, "equivalent rights" opens up the idea of separate but equal. I don't want an "equivalent" of marriage, I want marriage.
jsd3306
that mattered specifically for gay couples. It's hard for me to think of an example.
"equal" would for example giving same access to birth control, whereas "equivalent" would be taking that effort and placing it somewhere 1/
UsernameNotTakenYet
Same access to birth control... for homosexual couples... What?
Exactly. It would be worthless to them. Hence where equivalent would be giving them something of similar value that is useful.
Equality means that gay and straight people are equally allowed to get married heterosexually. Fair equivalence allows for gay marriage.
What the hell does "married heterosexually" mean?
Marriage between a man and a woman. Gay and straight people equally have the right to have a heterosexual marriage in most cultures.
As a gay guy, I want rights that benefit a male/male marriage, not rights tailored to the assumption that one of us is female.
How are marriage rights tailored to the assumption that they are between a man and a woman?
mfordpty
Wait are people actually against Breast Feeding??
Sprixxen
In public. As I understand people want women to cover themselves while breastfeeding. Like at restaurants.
deepfriedcatheads
I have a feeling it's meant to mean breastfeeding in public... someone correct me if I'm wrong.
muhvitus
Though that isn't much more rational argument either.
Flyndaran
In public or when the kid's in gradeschool, yeah. There are some opposed to it under certain situations.
KyloRen95
I have problems with several of those. So to me this does not sum it up.
zoidburgerandfries
Ooohhhh... Which ones?
Abortions, planned parenthood, and non binary gender stuff.
ThatOneChickYouAllForgot
Do you mind elaborating a little? I'm curious on why you disagree.
Non binary gender makes no sense to me, switching your sexual identity back and forth is not a legit thing. And I think abortion is murder.
Okay, I get those two but why PP? They're really helpful for a lot of other things to prevent anyone getting unplanned pregnancy.
Bentheidiot
TL;DR the world is NOT black and white & don't be an asshole.
chrisdafish
Thats why I think abortion is bad
avatarnow
The world isn't, but this post is.
notme222
That is a good thing to read instead of the actual post, but has nothing to do with this list.
SirDistic
It's African American and White. Gawd Becky!
RenegadeTQ
But all of these are absolutes that depict the answers to issues in a black and white manner...
CthuluAlmighty
It's yellow too
TL;DR OP is an angsty Neckbeard Goth who just repeats shit he hears on Tumblr.
I'm almost exactly the opposite ;)
teklanis
So this post which gives the 'correct' answer to all the 'problems' is saying there are shades of grey?
AvatarCrono
I hope there aren't 50 shades of them...
DownvotePolice
This guy or gal gets it :)
whyyougottabesorude
You said what I was thinking, except you said it a lot better than I could have.
SlagStorm
there's about 50 of them.
Ignition101
My side chick knows all about that.
Wuhaa
Beat me to it. Good show chap.
Lugh314159
What an odd mix of left and right values.
dustbowldano
It's almost as if neither side has it right and we need to meet in the middle to be most effective
FloppyFingers
This made me lol
dreamingofdurian
But what about vaccines!!!!
iynque
Are you crazy? Mentioning vaccines causes autism!
WeirdGolfer
Opinions. Everyone's got some.... Definitely not all facts.
SuperDuperMissile
Opinions. If you don't have your owns, you're a slave.
Klingon00
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
Do we need to link to stories about babies born lacking anuses again?
Vekete
Not to be that guy, but gays tend to have basic human rights. Everyone usually does.
DammitIHadSomethingForThis
In parts of the world yeah, but not in Africa or the Middle East.
Considering the post is set in western first world standards, those don't really count to the topic.
I was reading it as more of a global thing
Well a lot of the topics are only really relevant in the US, such as Trump, US isn't a christian nation, breastfeeding, guns, etc. etc..
We're suprizingly backwards for a nation that's so proud of itself
DarthReznor
Not in the muslim world they don't! Neither do women. But don't tell OP
Marriage was classified as a human right by the Supreme Court decades ago without allowing it for gays.
birencall
Herein lies the problem. Some of these are fact and some are opinion. Presenting it this way makes tries to validate opinion by association.
heroworship
ooo
Blue2Ghost
It was never stated as fact. Apparently an item or two offended thee?
jab30
Damn good opinions, though.
rhetoricalstagnation
I'm wondering as to what points of the list made you speak up
Keeyoh
Agree
Mooselover2000
True, but I find that often people don't necessarily "believe in" every fact
SadCannibalNoises
Will it help to mentally preface the whole thing with, "I think that..."?
SpamYarBlockers
These facts and opinions look so similar!
LaughingSeraphim
Like most, OP no doubt thinks these are all immutable facts.
senkuo
I was thinking the same thing
Well OP just came from Tumblr what do you expect? all those were what people on tumblr with an IQ of 80 think on a daily basis.
JoshuaCovarrubias
perfectly well said
GeneralKenobi2
Some of these are great, but people can't will society to conform to what suits their needs, they need to grow up and accept the truth.
BayazTheBenevolent
Thank you, I was hoping to find this comment.
thebjornsson
which ones?
Fractoman
The nonbinary thing is awfully vague.
orangemarmaladesky
They're talking about non-binary gender/genderqueer people.
IMO some of those people are crazy. They've got a fucked up mentality of what gender is with relation to their day to day emotional state.
TheHighCourt
Humans can be healthy on a vegan diet
lonelylincolnshiresausage
Humans are omnivores. And humans are in general, weaker when on a vegan diet.
DarthVaderIsBadAndHisAssistantIsAMouse
Vegan cavemen couldn't be healthy, but humans have reached the point where we can take supplements and have enough types of food to be fine.
You're right about the omnivore. Generally weaker? I don't know if it's proven. But small portions seems like a good medium
bpsr2000
But trump is a shitty choice...
Mayhzon
Maybe, maybe not. He might be the chosen one to end SJW circlejerking and white guilt / Western self-loathing. But I could be wrong.
Knilore
Shitty choice is an opinion, no facts there.
Opner
would have been better as "Trump isn't racist... but he is a shitty choice"
SmoothOper8tor
He is racist though.
People keep saying it... but his comments aren't racist in context.
rossimus
He literally called Mexicans criminals and rapists. When called out he said he was sure "some of them are probably okay."
Trollingstoned
Trump is actually illegal-grade racist in most developed countries except ours. For this and many other reasons, he is a shitty choice.
generilisk
Racism is wrong, let's start with that...but there are developed countries where it's illegal to think a certain way?
P.S. If he's actually taking actions that are illegal, not just saying things, that's different.
Thinking it and saying it in private is fine as far as I know. Preaching hate is not, especially in France and Germany.
I mean, we're not talking some racist uncle spewing bullshit at xmas dinner. This is an "official" source with a national audience. Its cray
People often forget that public hate-speech is a huge part of genocides/ethnic conflicts/civil wars. It is no light thing by any means.
If only he was merely "thinking" it. His hate-speech towards Mexicans and Muslims could get him in trouble in UK, France, Germany, Canada...
DefendersZero
As in women should have a choice to abort, men should also have a say, and if they say they don't want a kid, they shouldn't require to pay
mechanimated
What to do with the kid after birth is a whole 'nother discussion, but no way a man should have a say in a woman's choice to abort or not.
gamblingpoet
I disagree for many reasons that would take more than 140 characters to talk about. Simply put, it isn't fair.
Hey fucknut. Child support isn't a lottery win for the woman. It's to support the child which is half the man's.
Angry person. Pls read my comment on your other angry post
WillaSue
That's ridiculous. There are men out there with like 20 illegitimate kids. You help create a life? You help raise that kid. Just wow...
Braglion
The thought process is that if a woman has the right to not be a part of the child's life one way or another, moral grey areas be damned,
Why should a man have no say at all and have to be financially responsible if he didn't want anything to do with the kid? You feel me?
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smakcthat
Did you rhyme on purpose? It's like a rap
VanillaLaceKisses
Longfellow
Lol no, I didn't notice until you pointed it out, I just had to cut words for the 140 characters
whyarealltheusernamestakenimpanicking
It isn't that black and white. Both people are responsible for a pregnancy, but women get more say in the matter because it's THEIR body.
And the guy didn't want to have it? So what? There is a baby now & both the mother & the father have legal obligations to care for it.
ThePickle
It's only a baby if the mother wants it. If she doesn't, it's not a baby and can be disposed of
Fine. True. But if the mother does want it (or, doesn't want an abortion) then it's a person that two people are responsible for.
SpenceOrSpencer
That comment isn't about the pregnancy, it's about the man not having say whether they support the kept child or not.
leofelixson
If they took a risk and had unsafe sex, it's both their problems - only time nonpayment should be considered is failed birth control, maybe.
She took the risk of unsafe sex, she should be forced to carry to term... see how dumb this logic is?
When birth control is available? Abortions should not be birth control - "whoops, I got knocked up, silly me - better abort it."
aphallatosis
Leo said people shouldn't get free abortions, opner argued that abortions should be legal. Nicely sums up why I don't vote.
char limit makes things difficult... thought we were both talking about child support, not payment for abortions.
67yuiop76
I don't think you actually got the point of what either said.
That's not what I said. Meant nonpayment insofar as child support - abortions should be for health reasons, not as substitute birth control.
imanatheistdebateme
Isn't abortion potentially harmful to the mother? If so, then to what extent should the father have a say?
I don't know the answer to those questions. *But as to my knowledge*, abortion is not harmful to the mother. Plan B and/or Birth Control is
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodGrammarNazi
Pregnancy/deliver carries much greater risk to the mother than abortion.
whyisausernamesohardtothinkof
No, abortion is not harmful, just like anything you do it could have risks if something were to go wrong. I've had an abortion so 1/?
I had the conversation and procedure done, but states that don't support pp require that the doctor tell you about "potential risks" of 2/?
Abortion that actually have no factual data behind it. It's a scare tactic. the doctor tells you that if they are kind and understanding 3/?
rekcilthis1
Yes they should. This is a case of 'tough shit' because life isn't fair.
If you want to boil someone else's kettle and not drink the tea they have every right to ask you to repay them the value of the tea-bag.
RonsInBloosh
Then don't put your dick in the kettle, man.
mathlady
Can't they just sign their rights away and not pay?!
LanaDelReyy
That's what I was wondering too.
Spongybunny
Not that simple. Even guys that aren't the biological fathers can be forced to pay for kids sometimes if it's in the kid's "best interest."
I never thought about that. I've never even heard it mentioned before. This warrants further thought.
Yeah, there is so much thought and points that I defiantly haven't thought about myself
Syng420
No it doesn't. It's already hella easy for a man to abandon his kids.
Such as how?
Please explain? Because im definitely calling bs.
Sorry, I only have anecdotes for you but it's how I feel after watching single mothers toil every day to afford a pediatrician because 1/2
The father doesn't send shit to help despite court orders. I hope shit has changed for the better because that's not right. 2/2
IT'S NOT THE MAN'S BODY, DAMMIT! I shouldn't have ANY say or manipulative influence on what procedures she may choose.
Tantaburs
It may not be the mans body but it is the mans kid.
Which is why the male must help support the kid unless giving up rights to someone that accepts.
Yes.... You shouldn't. I agree, it's not their body, but why should the guy have to pay child support for a kid that he didn't want to have
CycloneSP
what, exactly, are you referring to when you say who's "body" it is. are we referring to the fetus, or the impact carrying the fetus implies
oops, replied to the wrong comment, soz, meant to reply to the guy you replied to
Was gonna say... That's a whole different story that I don't know the answer to haha
UnforgivingCanadian
condoms.
You stopped reading the comment when you reached the second comma.
As did you. Forcing the woman to pay for a kid he produced too creates EXTRA hardship on the woman and the kid. That's undue influence.
I am a father, because I chose to be a father. I wanted to be a father. I love being a father. I am not obligated to be a father.
Either way child support is for the kid, not the mom. The kid belongs exactly as much to the father as the mother.
This is not true in America. If the parents are not together, the mother has far more rights and it is not even close to equal.
Source: I'm a father fighting a 4+ year custody battle to maintain 50/50 custody of my son. I have the better environment, but I'm a guy.
Even when the father is clearly the better parent, our system and society believes a mother is the more important parent.
Cowboytenticules
Final note: if you don't agree with some of this, that's totally okay too!
Unfortunately if you do not agree with this you are a "Bigot"
LtKifKroker
I don't know if I agree with binary person thing. ..is that an android? I really don't know what a binary person is.
Binary meaning 2 gender system. As in male/female. A nonbinary person is someone who does not want to be labeled male/female.
So, it's not transgender. Which is when a male identifies as a female or vice versa. It's people who don't identify as either male or female
A reminder. They still have a sex. Which will always be male/female. Gender can be different and they see it as a social construct.
HousePest
In some cases, you are. Like, saying someone doesn't deserve equal rights for the sex they have, for instance, is p bigoted.
Orientation is a state of being, not necessarilly action. I was hetero LONG before I got to touch the boobie, for example.
Well, yeah, I agree. I only worded it as I did to make it seem as mundane as possible.
While others are more subjective.
ExTechOp
If I live in a country where guns are strictly controlled & gun violence is rare, and think guns are unnecessary for a society, I'm a bigot?
Threnody15970
He's just jumping on the South Park anti-SJW bandwagon, regardless of context or applicability.
(Side-note: there are lots of hunting weapons here in Finland, but getting a license for a people-shooter is quite difficult)
How do you feel about people who think guns are necessary for society? (Side-note: Pretty sure hunting weapons can be just as lethal)
"Necessary for society" is of course eminently debatable, but all in all, I'm happy to live in a society demonstrably not needing many guns.
(Side-note: certainly as or even more lethal, but for some reason, hunting weapons don't get used as much for shooting people as handguns)
SaulTheDog
The Muslim culture is for the most part peaceful but the religion of Islam itself is extremely violent.
Tanishh
Judaism and Christianity are guilty of this as well. God regularly has people killed or severely punished in the OT for stupid bullshit like
worshipping him the wrong way (incense) and also condones things like letting a mob fuck your daughters to save a stranger.
Source is the Quran where it literally says if they do not share the same faith do not hesitate to kill them.
yourpretendgirlfriend
But the bible also mentions that 'anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the priest who represent God must be put to death'
Levitical law no longer applicable. It must be read in context.
Forgive me. However, exchange 'bible' for Torah and my point stands.
Huh? I assume by that you mean the Torah is no longer applicable?
afbujinkan
There's also the fact that even 1% of 1.7 Billion people is still a lot of people.
Is "1%" the number of Muslims that are radical/terrorists? Or did you just make that up?
I've heard anywhere from 1-30+.
greatbrono7
Yea the "not even a lot" statement is bullshit. Just cuz its not even close to half, does not mean its a small number. Millions is a lot.
So is christianity. The thing about most of the Christian world, is that it is getting to be less religious and thus less fundamentalisitic.
Christianity is not extremely violent. One of the ten commandments is thou shalt not kill lol
baturinsky
Breastfeeding is as natural as eating. Or defecating.
Donkeyhead
So we should be allowed to poop in public?
plebbville
But not for an 5-8year old child (or adult)
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Most of the motherfuckers here are adults who effectively breast feed from cows so think about that. (i agree only babies should breastfeed)
Well udder feed but i get the joke :p
Yes downvote away because what you do with cows' milk is so much different than a human mother pumping milk for her adult offspring.
IsaacAhhhhhhh
What I pay prostitutes to do is nobody's business but my own
AGroupOfPugsIsCalledAGrumble
I would also include Dogs are better than cats
WoodNinja
I like both.
digdoug78
Most North Koreans agree.
schmoo38
No, don't ruin it.
uslydog
slow down mr woof.
eatmyass121
Now now no
DonutZlut
And can live vegan. Cats however, need the meats
JAYK42
No!
LiquidPoo
RyanDog99
BetterLateThanPregnant1984
Any dog less than 30lbs is a cat and cats are useless. J/k I love cats!
Any dog less than 30lbs is not a dog. It is certainly not a cat, but equally certainly not a dog. It is a... a... glooff!!
Gloofs are like, so lame.
I've never owned a dog less than 60 pounds
I've never owned a man less than 130lbs
szorg
But seriously....
pho sho
icameinlikeafeckingball
It really depends on the dog tho. I’ll take a cat over a chihuahua or a Schnauzer any day.
dudname
Depends on the dog. One of my favorite dogs when I worked in a shelter was one. Sweetest little thing that loved everyone.
Yeah probably. I’ve just got the stereotypical idea of them being nasty spoilt brats, which really is a problem of the owner rather than (1)
That's my opinion on it. Just like how people that assume pits are aggressive murder dogs. Depends how they are raised.
But breeds definitely do have "personalities". Pits have a lot of energy and chihuahuas are anxious. (not always the case for either)
than of the dog. (2)
SankingDragon
Breastfeeding is natural. So is urination. For that matter, so is an early death. An appeal to nature is always a bad argument.
I was born lactose intolerant. Such natural actions would have killed me. I'm not a fan of that bitch nature.
Risiven
I'm opposed to babies being in public. Keep those things in your own homes I say, and off my lawn.
pizzaparty
I'm with you. Some kids were in my yard yesterday. I fucking hate kids. My partner pounded on the window and they spooked & ran. Hilarious.
SexDrugsBirdsandRocknRoll
It's always the terrible go-to stoner argument too. "It's from the earth man, it's good for you." Okay. Like this place is allll good stuff.
Humanity has spent the last 10,000 years trying to modify the Earth to suit itself better. Nature is overrated.
matata
Also, eating and urinating isn't same thing. one is okay fro public, other isn't.
ant3ony
I think OP might be referring to the backlash against breast feeding in public.
There's no good argument for or against. We don't piss or shit in public either.
SuckAnElf
Next time you decide to eat some shit and drink your piss go hide somewhere then dimwit. Not even remotely comparable
I wasn't making a comparison, I was refuting the appeal to nature.
You said there are no good arguments for breastfeeding. Not just the "it's natural" one because you consider it a bad argument.
TheButtyProfessor
We eat in public, you fuckwit
SHOWMETHERICE
This comment^ needs more upvotes
So? Babies have different rules from adults.
Remne
Why do you have a problem with breastfeeding?
Which is why they are allowed to eat from breasts in public. There is literally no argument against breastfeeding wherever necessary.
DaisyDomergue
That's bs. Nobody gets upset when a baby is fed from a bottle, it's just that people get pissy when they see boobs being used for food.
stoploggingmeoutImgurIfuckingswear
So you want to build breastfeeding rooms everywhere? How is that practical?
Perhaps you should read the comment in question, this time for comprehension. "Theres no good argument for or against ."
You said "we don't shit in public." We don't shit in public because there are private places everywhere to do that. Unless you are
suggesting that we build private places for breastfeeding to happen, I don't see how the two can be compared.
leatherneck1836
I was fucking a girl from behind at the mall and got in trouble for it...fucking is natural.
Except you don't need to fuck because you can control your sexual urges. But a baby's gotta eat.
"Baby's gotta eat" is exactly what she said before I stuffed her face.
SIrEvilMustache
See? That's a good pont. "Breastfeeding is natural" is not.
Devil's advocate: Couldn't you pump and bottle feed while outside? Or get a cover so you do not expose yourself?
tallroses
Yeah...black people offend me too. They can eat, but not where I can see them. They have to use the back entrance and eat in the kitchen
There are tons of ways to feed a baby without exposing your breast at a socially inappropriate time.
slippy123
Of course global warming is real, so is global cooling, and they've been real for billions of years.
Exarous
Totally agree with you!!! My Dad is a geologist and we always talk about how the Earth has done this since it first existed.
MonsieurLaPaditte
That's cool
I'm a comedic genius, I know.
strawmanAlert
*anthropomorphic climate change is real. Happy?
cerastes
"s-senpai, stop, you're warming me up too much! ah, there's CO2 all over me!" - anthropomorphic climate change
CorrectorOfSlightlyOffQuotes
Baka.
aCrowLeftoftheMurder
Is it true that a volcanic eruption can release more co2 into the atmosphere than humans have?
Sure it can, but that hasn't happened in an extremely long time.
Co2 should take a back seat imo. The agricultural business is doing much, MUCH more harm to the environment.
I'm not saying Co2 reduction isn't important, but a lot of people don't know that the biggest harm right now is livestock.
Nope. They're included in the normal background CO2 fluctuation. https://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm
Cool. Thanks!
It can during large eruptions but on average, volcanoes release CO2 under 1% of what humans emit.
PostMasterGeneral
I agree with some of these, but not all. I guess that's why issues like these aren't always easy to resolve. People have different views.
MostOfImgurGenerallyPissesMeOff
"rape is never the victim's fault" can be pretty bullshit, some people fake that they got raped. Obviously not all
But if they fake it, there IS no victim of rape. Cuz it didn't happen. It should read: When rape happens, it's never the victim's fault.
drcurlyfat
I don't *disagree* with any of them per se, but some of them are more complicated than that.
Which ones don't you agree with? I'm curious.
SweetBabyYeezus
Same
Lockerkid
I agree with this statement.
tanadarko
Doesn't the one about racism and how a person looks is really really specific?
RoguePineapple
Rape is never the victim's fault. But getting drunk and making bad decisions doesn't give someone the excuse to claim rape either.
danzafan37
The abuse one confuses me because it sounds like it is saying the abusee is also an abuser. The rest are pretty good with me
MadamMischief
I think what it's trying to say is that women can be abusive too, not just men
They just mean either person in the relationship can be abusive, or both of them.
KatInTheCorner
In some locations guns are needed (shooting wolves that are trying to eat your sheep is srs bsnss), but not handguns/assault rifles. Yeesh.
TheLastSouthernGentleman
I already can't own an automatic weapon. (Assault rifle is a made up term to describe scary looking guns)
NoahJoseph
Yeah, here's a great illustration of that point: http://imgur.com/j85rp2U Same gun, same capabilities; one just has a black kit w/ rails
I think the big difference is the magazine. Take that off and I'm significantly less worried.
BlueBomber05
Not the same, the one on the bottom has a big magazine, doesn't have to be reloaded as often, you can kill more people in a mass shooting
All guns look scary in the possession of someone you don't trust or know.
iameverythingimgurhates
To some people. Not to everyone. I've seen strangers with guns and it didn't bother me in the slightest.
And what about them made you feel "safe" and not fearful?
obamahasmytv
Ya its pretty liberal
Which one is liberal? I mean...In the US these look center/center-left. In Europe this looks center/center-right. In Russia this is liberal.
iamdistant
I'm not very fond of liberals.
GratefulUndead
For seriousl. Global warming!? A scientific conspiracy! Equal rights for gays and women!? Damn them to hell. Legal guns!? Those bastards!
Well you took it to the extreme, I was just making an observation how most of those views are towards the leftist side
mwahz
A more 'rational' side you mean..
hencethequeef
Reality has a well-known liberal bias. - Stephen Colbert
D3LLI5
like the good old liberal "islam is a religion of peace and if you try and prove otherwise you're a bigot and a racist"
napoleonsghost
Yeah. The nonbinary gender thing...I just don't buy it.
kate925
That's one I've got to be neutral on, it seems suspicious to me, but I don't live in their head so what right have I to 1/2
dismiss what they may actually feel. 2/2
I have no mental gender, so the very concept of it is unfathomable to me. I just don't care and find it weird that so many go nuts about it.
Who gives a shit? As long as you're not an asshole about it, you can think they're wombats for all we care. Just don't hurt them.
mcase19
You don't have to buy it. All they're usually asking of you is a different pronoun. That costs you literally nothing and can save them (1)
Zerubbabel
I think you can only expect people to play along so far.
A lot of needless emotional pain
MimzytheBun
http://imgur.com/4F7JHNf
I don't think they care what you think neither are they asking for your permission.
Well someone's a sensitive little bitch today
Sure. Or acceptance and caring towards other humans and asking others for the same is not that hard. But sure, if you feel that way.
They kind of are. Constantly asking for acceptance requires third party opinion. Tolerance is another thing
I think we all care to be treated with respect. Oh, but because one guy doesn't buy it? Well then, I'll just have to conform.
You're asking for the conformity of everyone else by asking for acceptance though. How is that any difference. I'm not saying it's okay /1
to be disrespectful but that doesn't mean a person should have to agree that a guy wearing makeup and a dress is suddenly a woman. (2/2)
JanaJustinsdottir
But that's more of an issue you have with science. I was amazed that an entire lecture in forensic anthro was dedicated to telling ppl that
sex =/= gender, and that gender was a social construct, but I am constantly reminded that people still have issues with that fact.
This was important in forensics because people who don't get that fact constantly misidentify gender in remains because of objects at burial
- Disclaimer - As per US standards. Opinions may change across countries.
00LimaRomeo
Not much, chum. +1
transcend
*opinions may change across individuals
delapolla
*opinions may change across neurons
Spisepinden
I for one would never feel safe about people running around with guns. Swords on the other hand...
crazyatblay
Except Trump. He's still shitty.
So are the alternatives.
NotaLizardmen
I hate when some idea is presented and someone freaks out because they assume its presented universally, when its meant in a certain context
As per the founding of the US (as a confederacy AND later as a republic), each state was intended to have its own culture, laws, and norms.
MediumPlatypi
They do.
Not so much...not since Lincoln fucked it all up.
TheCakeFlavor
Ehh, there's only like 4 different cultures in america.
SHOTS FIRED!
Wibblywobblytime
Disclaimer -- He solely means guns cuz that's a recipe for destruction of civilization. Like how all americans kill each other cuz guns.
Ullur
My gun must be broken. Sniper rifle hasn't jumped out of its cabinet and shot any middle schoolers across the street yet.
TurtlUrtle
"I haven't killed anyone with my gun, therefore shootings must be a myth."
Respond to a sweeping generalization, get criticized with another sweeping generalization. We've gone the full circle of stupid.
I see you sarcasm and raise you three more sarcasm!
vivianvixen
How is any of this negotiable (except, mayyybe, the gun one)???
chakarakarama
Because morality and personal standards vary just as much as snowflakes.
Some snowflakes can piss right off.
Whoa whoa now, what happened to tolerance?
Who said anything about tolerance? Tolerance can piss right off! Acceptance, or nothing. Own your hate!
Is it still a "side chick" if you're doing ethical non-monogamy (i.e. everyone knows and is cool with it)?
ampsych
I'm pretty sure the French think the whole "side chick" thing is perfectly normal.
PolarBearBleedingOnTheLabel
Actually .... No we don't
Personally it's the gun part, the non-binary part and the trans part. There is a reason behind all three of them.
irontom
Oh, great, found the dude who likes black and white camps.
You should have the right to defend yourself from criminals and criminal governments. I'm not from the US btw.
ThanatosElNyx
And what may I ask is wrong with pointy sticks? Hmmm?
ThisUsernameIsNoLongerAvailableIsStillNotEvenAvailable
We don't have guns in the UK and no one has ever needed one to "defend" themselves. Guns are for killing, nothing else.
I don't want to be that asshole, but right now a certain 1400 young females come to mind...
You have guns in the UK.
Bisright
Not really, level of gun ownership is pretty much limited to hunting. Not self defence.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Sure no one in the UK could ever have benefitted from having a gun in the history of your very old country. Just the people you conquered.
a1a1b2
I think some of them are negotiable in degree. For example, a lot of people feel there should be certain limits on abortion. For the muslim
They're wrong, imvso.
So there should be absolutely no limi on abortion whatsoever? How about third trimester without medical indication
I honestly support post-natal abortion. Wrong person to argue with about 3rd trimesters. You'll have to pull me back from the 4th first.
How do you limit abortions? Women should have the rights to their own body and their choices.
the most common is term limits. Abortions after the fetus is viable are generally not permitted worldwide except in medical emergencies
"viable" generally meaning around the 24 week mark, when a baby could be delivered and survive
one, "a lot" is vague and negotiable. Like is 200 a lot? Are supporters who don't specifically commit the acts themselves terrorists?
The statement in the OP is clearly being made through the context of a billion Muslims. Also, no. That's why we have definitions.
StarmanUltra
Exactly. It's not a lot when you talk percentage. But seeing as 1 is too many terrorists, I could see it as "a lot" in that sense.
Also, there are better systems than "planned parenthood" in other countries, so the funding could potentially be better spent. Feminism is
PP is what we have right now. OP says nothign about not developign somethign better.
a broad movement and there are certain radical feminist groups that expressly advocate female superiority. Having a "side chick" is not
badmanjam
Saying no to gun control is saying yes to school shootings
hihellobyeoh
Saying yes to gun banishment means the only people with guns are the shooters themselves. Fuck off and stop buying into political propaganda
That's such bullshit. You fucking moron. Gun control prevents ANYONE from obtaining firearms. Look at all the countries in the world (1)
with gun control like the UK. We don't ever have any gun whatsoever. NEVER. Your argument is demonstrably wrong. (2)
TheAvengingKnee
People who obtain them illegally would still have them. Normal people who just lose it and take there guns to school/work/public place 1/2
would have less access to them as they would have to attempt to get them illegally. I think more support for mental health care is better.
No it's not. I don't mean to offend you, but you are an idiot.
No, he's right. You're an idiot.
So, if I say I don't want gun control I am saying I want people to shoot kids in schools? It's really that simple in your head?
Who said anything about no gun control?
BrobiwanKenobro
Can I just get a main chick? I don't even want a second, just a first would be great.
pyrobob4
http://imgur.com/m5T4JYK
HanShotFirst39
Perfect.
Awkwardpebble
Finally someone said something about the side chick
Blasfemur
Is it a real thing? Like, not an internet thing? I only see the term "side chick" when reading /r/blackpeopletwitter.
Awkwardpebble
All I know is cheating is a real thing, and the "side chick" stuff glorifies it. Some of it makes me chuckle but it's actually pretty gross.
ElTigreChang
"MY OPINIONS ARE RIGHT!" -OP
bufferkiller
See you on the front page, OP.
v
Martyr99
Have my up vote for Starship Troopers.
whenallelsefails
And being Bisexual is a real thing & does not mean your just a wishy washy slut
lurkinginpublic
Bisexuality is by far the most common sexual orientation according to the Kinsey Institute. Actual sexual activity levels notwithstanding.
r00bKapow
I get sad that Biphobia can come from people who define as gay :(
FiftyShadesOfHueHueHue
I think it's honestly worse from gay people than straight people. At least for guys it is.
FiftyShadesOfHueHueHue
Gotta love living the bi-life <3
cheddarhat
Moses did a better job.
iKnowMostlyRandomFacts
GET OUT OF MY MIND
UDBV
With you on most of this. All except like two lines, but whatever.
KrisKringlez
We all have different opinions....We should be free to think and feel what we like,just dont be a stuck up self centered prick about it
FiftyShadesOfHueHueHue
The problem is that with some of these things, having an opposing view means you're a stuck up prick. Not all views are created equal.
IHopeIDontHaveToRememberThis
Circle jerk?
RabbiShmuley
Yes have some.
AllTheBondGirls
Circle jerk.
DastardlyDinosaur
It's always a circle jerk...
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
Jircle cerk
Lobsterwaffle
I'll get the lube
hotyoungchick
"Gays deserve basic human rights" - This looks like an agreeable opinion until you realize that "Gays deserve equal rights" is more correct.
goda90
Let's keep the basic human rights thing in there. I'd rather not face a world where both straights and gays are equally enslaved by someone
completelyunreIated
He knows what he said
121AAD
Coming from a non western Nation the Boner you guys have for worshping and glorifying someone for the sex they like is so fucking funny
121AAD
Sound like mindless drones that repeat whatever your TV says, I guess this is why the West is so economically stagnate, so much stupid
ZRod
You forgot to mention the most developed and highest quality of life. Equal rights does that as you don't simply squabble over oppression.
thefreestyler
Haha! Rekt! :D The "mindless drones" part is especially rich coming from someone perpetuating conservative values.
ZRod
How is giving someone equal rights "worshipping and glorifying" them?
ThermiteKitten
Equal isn't quite right, I prefer equivalent rights. Blindly making everything the same doesn't always make things fair.
ThePakistallion
Profound shit you just said. Not everyone realizes this.
ninjafinity
Though to me, "equivalent rights" opens up the idea of separate but equal. I don't want an "equivalent" of marriage, I want marriage.
jsd3306
that mattered specifically for gay couples. It's hard for me to think of an example.
jsd3306
"equal" would for example giving same access to birth control, whereas "equivalent" would be taking that effort and placing it somewhere 1/
UsernameNotTakenYet
Same access to birth control... for homosexual couples... What?
jsd3306
Exactly. It would be worthless to them. Hence where equivalent would be giving them something of similar value that is useful.
ThermiteKitten
Equality means that gay and straight people are equally allowed to get married heterosexually. Fair equivalence allows for gay marriage.
ninjafinity
What the hell does "married heterosexually" mean?
ThermiteKitten
Marriage between a man and a woman. Gay and straight people equally have the right to have a heterosexual marriage in most cultures.
ThermiteKitten
As a gay guy, I want rights that benefit a male/male marriage, not rights tailored to the assumption that one of us is female.
ninjafinity
How are marriage rights tailored to the assumption that they are between a man and a woman?
mfordpty
Wait are people actually against Breast Feeding??
Sprixxen
In public. As I understand people want women to cover themselves while breastfeeding. Like at restaurants.
deepfriedcatheads
I have a feeling it's meant to mean breastfeeding in public... someone correct me if I'm wrong.
muhvitus
Though that isn't much more rational argument either.
Flyndaran
In public or when the kid's in gradeschool, yeah. There are some opposed to it under certain situations.
KyloRen95
I have problems with several of those. So to me this does not sum it up.
zoidburgerandfries
Ooohhhh... Which ones?
KyloRen95
Abortions, planned parenthood, and non binary gender stuff.
ThatOneChickYouAllForgot
Do you mind elaborating a little? I'm curious on why you disagree.
KyloRen95
Non binary gender makes no sense to me, switching your sexual identity back and forth is not a legit thing. And I think abortion is murder.
ThatOneChickYouAllForgot
Okay, I get those two but why PP? They're really helpful for a lot of other things to prevent anyone getting unplanned pregnancy.
Bentheidiot
TL;DR the world is NOT black and white & don't be an asshole.
chrisdafish
Thats why I think abortion is bad
avatarnow
The world isn't, but this post is.
notme222
That is a good thing to read instead of the actual post, but has nothing to do with this list.
SirDistic
It's African American and White. Gawd Becky!
RenegadeTQ
But all of these are absolutes that depict the answers to issues in a black and white manner...
CthuluAlmighty
It's yellow too
121AAD
TL;DR OP is an angsty Neckbeard Goth who just repeats shit he hears on Tumblr.
karmap0lice
I'm almost exactly the opposite ;)
teklanis
So this post which gives the 'correct' answer to all the 'problems' is saying there are shades of grey?
AvatarCrono
I hope there aren't 50 shades of them...
DownvotePolice
This guy or gal gets it :)
whyyougottabesorude
You said what I was thinking, except you said it a lot better than I could have.
SlagStorm
there's about 50 of them.
Ignition101
My side chick knows all about that.
Wuhaa
Beat me to it. Good show chap.
Lugh314159
What an odd mix of left and right values.
dustbowldano
It's almost as if neither side has it right and we need to meet in the middle to be most effective
FloppyFingers
karmap0lice
This made me lol
dreamingofdurian
But what about vaccines!!!!
iynque
Are you crazy? Mentioning vaccines causes autism!
WeirdGolfer
Opinions. Everyone's got some.... Definitely not all facts.
SuperDuperMissile
Opinions. If you don't have your owns, you're a slave.
Klingon00
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
Flyndaran
Do we need to link to stories about babies born lacking anuses again?
Vekete
Not to be that guy, but gays tend to have basic human rights. Everyone usually does.
DammitIHadSomethingForThis
In parts of the world yeah, but not in Africa or the Middle East.
Vekete
Considering the post is set in western first world standards, those don't really count to the topic.
DammitIHadSomethingForThis
I was reading it as more of a global thing
Vekete
Well a lot of the topics are only really relevant in the US, such as Trump, US isn't a christian nation, breastfeeding, guns, etc. etc..
DammitIHadSomethingForThis
We're suprizingly backwards for a nation that's so proud of itself
DarthReznor
Not in the muslim world they don't! Neither do women. But don't tell OP
Flyndaran
Marriage was classified as a human right by the Supreme Court decades ago without allowing it for gays.
birencall
Herein lies the problem. Some of these are fact and some are opinion. Presenting it this way makes tries to validate opinion by association.
heroworship
ooo
Blue2Ghost
It was never stated as fact. Apparently an item or two offended thee?
jab30
Damn good opinions, though.
rhetoricalstagnation
I'm wondering as to what points of the list made you speak up
Keeyoh
Agree
Mooselover2000
True, but I find that often people don't necessarily "believe in" every fact
SadCannibalNoises
Will it help to mentally preface the whole thing with, "I think that..."?
SpamYarBlockers
These facts and opinions look so similar!
LaughingSeraphim
Like most, OP no doubt thinks these are all immutable facts.
senkuo
I was thinking the same thing
121AAD
Well OP just came from Tumblr what do you expect? all those were what people on tumblr with an IQ of 80 think on a daily basis.
JoshuaCovarrubias
perfectly well said
GeneralKenobi2
Some of these are great, but people can't will society to conform to what suits their needs, they need to grow up and accept the truth.
BayazTheBenevolent
Thank you, I was hoping to find this comment.
thebjornsson
which ones?
Fractoman
The nonbinary thing is awfully vague.
orangemarmaladesky
They're talking about non-binary gender/genderqueer people.
Fractoman
IMO some of those people are crazy. They've got a fucked up mentality of what gender is with relation to their day to day emotional state.
TheHighCourt
Humans can be healthy on a vegan diet
lonelylincolnshiresausage
Humans are omnivores. And humans are in general, weaker when on a vegan diet.
DarthVaderIsBadAndHisAssistantIsAMouse
Vegan cavemen couldn't be healthy, but humans have reached the point where we can take supplements and have enough types of food to be fine.
TheHighCourt
You're right about the omnivore. Generally weaker? I don't know if it's proven. But small portions seems like a good medium
bpsr2000
But trump is a shitty choice...
Mayhzon
Maybe, maybe not. He might be the chosen one to end SJW circlejerking and white guilt / Western self-loathing. But I could be wrong.
Knilore
Shitty choice is an opinion, no facts there.
Opner
would have been better as "Trump isn't racist... but he is a shitty choice"
SmoothOper8tor
He is racist though.
Opner
People keep saying it... but his comments aren't racist in context.
rossimus
He literally called Mexicans criminals and rapists. When called out he said he was sure "some of them are probably okay."
Trollingstoned
Trump is actually illegal-grade racist in most developed countries except ours. For this and many other reasons, he is a shitty choice.
generilisk
Racism is wrong, let's start with that...but there are developed countries where it's illegal to think a certain way?
generilisk
P.S. If he's actually taking actions that are illegal, not just saying things, that's different.
Trollingstoned
Thinking it and saying it in private is fine as far as I know. Preaching hate is not, especially in France and Germany.
Trollingstoned
I mean, we're not talking some racist uncle spewing bullshit at xmas dinner. This is an "official" source with a national audience. Its cray
Trollingstoned
People often forget that public hate-speech is a huge part of genocides/ethnic conflicts/civil wars. It is no light thing by any means.
Trollingstoned
If only he was merely "thinking" it. His hate-speech towards Mexicans and Muslims could get him in trouble in UK, France, Germany, Canada...
DefendersZero
As in women should have a choice to abort, men should also have a say, and if they say they don't want a kid, they shouldn't require to pay
mechanimated
What to do with the kid after birth is a whole 'nother discussion, but no way a man should have a say in a woman's choice to abort or not.
gamblingpoet
I disagree for many reasons that would take more than 140 characters to talk about. Simply put, it isn't fair.
Flyndaran
Hey fucknut. Child support isn't a lottery win for the woman. It's to support the child which is half the man's.
DefendersZero
Angry person. Pls read my comment on your other angry post
WillaSue
That's ridiculous. There are men out there with like 20 illegitimate kids. You help create a life? You help raise that kid. Just wow...
Braglion
The thought process is that if a woman has the right to not be a part of the child's life one way or another, moral grey areas be damned,
Braglion
Why should a man have no say at all and have to be financially responsible if he didn't want anything to do with the kid? You feel me?
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smakcthat
Did you rhyme on purpose? It's like a rap
VanillaLaceKisses
Longfellow
DefendersZero
Lol no, I didn't notice until you pointed it out, I just had to cut words for the 140 characters
whyarealltheusernamestakenimpanicking
It isn't that black and white. Both people are responsible for a pregnancy, but women get more say in the matter because it's THEIR body.
whyarealltheusernamestakenimpanicking
And the guy didn't want to have it? So what? There is a baby now & both the mother & the father have legal obligations to care for it.
ThePickle
It's only a baby if the mother wants it. If she doesn't, it's not a baby and can be disposed of
whyarealltheusernamestakenimpanicking
Fine. True. But if the mother does want it (or, doesn't want an abortion) then it's a person that two people are responsible for.
SpenceOrSpencer
That comment isn't about the pregnancy, it's about the man not having say whether they support the kept child or not.
leofelixson
If they took a risk and had unsafe sex, it's both their problems - only time nonpayment should be considered is failed birth control, maybe.
Opner
She took the risk of unsafe sex, she should be forced to carry to term... see how dumb this logic is?
leofelixson
When birth control is available? Abortions should not be birth control - "whoops, I got knocked up, silly me - better abort it."
aphallatosis
Leo said people shouldn't get free abortions, opner argued that abortions should be legal. Nicely sums up why I don't vote.
Opner
char limit makes things difficult... thought we were both talking about child support, not payment for abortions.
67yuiop76
I don't think you actually got the point of what either said.
leofelixson
That's not what I said. Meant nonpayment insofar as child support - abortions should be for health reasons, not as substitute birth control.
imanatheistdebateme
Isn't abortion potentially harmful to the mother? If so, then to what extent should the father have a say?
DefendersZero
I don't know the answer to those questions. *But as to my knowledge*, abortion is not harmful to the mother. Plan B and/or Birth Control is
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodGrammarNazi
Pregnancy/deliver carries much greater risk to the mother than abortion.
whyisausernamesohardtothinkof
No, abortion is not harmful, just like anything you do it could have risks if something were to go wrong. I've had an abortion so 1/?
whyisausernamesohardtothinkof
I had the conversation and procedure done, but states that don't support pp require that the doctor tell you about "potential risks" of 2/?
whyisausernamesohardtothinkof
Abortion that actually have no factual data behind it. It's a scare tactic. the doctor tells you that if they are kind and understanding 3/?
rekcilthis1
Yes they should. This is a case of 'tough shit' because life isn't fair.
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rekcilthis1
If you want to boil someone else's kettle and not drink the tea they have every right to ask you to repay them the value of the tea-bag.
RonsInBloosh
Then don't put your dick in the kettle, man.
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mathlady
Can't they just sign their rights away and not pay?!
LanaDelReyy
That's what I was wondering too.
Spongybunny
Not that simple. Even guys that aren't the biological fathers can be forced to pay for kids sometimes if it's in the kid's "best interest."
imanatheistdebateme
I never thought about that. I've never even heard it mentioned before. This warrants further thought.
DefendersZero
Yeah, there is so much thought and points that I defiantly haven't thought about myself
Syng420
No it doesn't. It's already hella easy for a man to abandon his kids.
imanatheistdebateme
Such as how?
senkuo
Please explain? Because im definitely calling bs.
Syng420
Sorry, I only have anecdotes for you but it's how I feel after watching single mothers toil every day to afford a pediatrician because 1/2
Syng420
The father doesn't send shit to help despite court orders. I hope shit has changed for the better because that's not right. 2/2
Flyndaran
IT'S NOT THE MAN'S BODY, DAMMIT! I shouldn't have ANY say or manipulative influence on what procedures she may choose.
Tantaburs
It may not be the mans body but it is the mans kid.
Flyndaran
Which is why the male must help support the kid unless giving up rights to someone that accepts.
DefendersZero
Yes.... You shouldn't. I agree, it's not their body, but why should the guy have to pay child support for a kid that he didn't want to have
CycloneSP
what, exactly, are you referring to when you say who's "body" it is. are we referring to the fetus, or the impact carrying the fetus implies
CycloneSP
oops, replied to the wrong comment, soz, meant to reply to the guy you replied to
DefendersZero
Was gonna say... That's a whole different story that I don't know the answer to haha
UnforgivingCanadian
condoms.
bufferkiller
You stopped reading the comment when you reached the second comma.
Flyndaran
As did you. Forcing the woman to pay for a kid he produced too creates EXTRA hardship on the woman and the kid. That's undue influence.
bufferkiller
I am a father, because I chose to be a father. I wanted to be a father. I love being a father. I am not obligated to be a father.
Flyndaran
Either way child support is for the kid, not the mom. The kid belongs exactly as much to the father as the mother.
bufferkiller
This is not true in America. If the parents are not together, the mother has far more rights and it is not even close to equal.
bufferkiller
Source: I'm a father fighting a 4+ year custody battle to maintain 50/50 custody of my son. I have the better environment, but I'm a guy.
bufferkiller
Even when the father is clearly the better parent, our system and society believes a mother is the more important parent.
Cowboytenticules
Final note: if you don't agree with some of this, that's totally okay too!
dustbowldano
Unfortunately if you do not agree with this you are a "Bigot"
LtKifKroker
I don't know if I agree with binary person thing. ..is that an android? I really don't know what a binary person is.
Sprixxen
Binary meaning 2 gender system. As in male/female. A nonbinary person is someone who does not want to be labeled male/female.
Sprixxen
So, it's not transgender. Which is when a male identifies as a female or vice versa. It's people who don't identify as either male or female
Sprixxen
A reminder. They still have a sex. Which will always be male/female. Gender can be different and they see it as a social construct.
HousePest
In some cases, you are. Like, saying someone doesn't deserve equal rights for the sex they have, for instance, is p bigoted.
Flyndaran
Orientation is a state of being, not necessarilly action. I was hetero LONG before I got to touch the boobie, for example.
HousePest
Well, yeah, I agree. I only worded it as I did to make it seem as mundane as possible.
HousePest
While others are more subjective.
ExTechOp
If I live in a country where guns are strictly controlled & gun violence is rare, and think guns are unnecessary for a society, I'm a bigot?
Threnody15970
He's just jumping on the South Park anti-SJW bandwagon, regardless of context or applicability.
ExTechOp
(Side-note: there are lots of hunting weapons here in Finland, but getting a license for a people-shooter is quite difficult)
dustbowldano
How do you feel about people who think guns are necessary for society? (Side-note: Pretty sure hunting weapons can be just as lethal)
ExTechOp
"Necessary for society" is of course eminently debatable, but all in all, I'm happy to live in a society demonstrably not needing many guns.
ExTechOp
(Side-note: certainly as or even more lethal, but for some reason, hunting weapons don't get used as much for shooting people as handguns)
SaulTheDog
The Muslim culture is for the most part peaceful but the religion of Islam itself is extremely violent.
Tanishh
Judaism and Christianity are guilty of this as well. God regularly has people killed or severely punished in the OT for stupid bullshit like
Tanishh
worshipping him the wrong way (incense) and also condones things like letting a mob fuck your daughters to save a stranger.
SaulTheDog
Source is the Quran where it literally says if they do not share the same faith do not hesitate to kill them.
yourpretendgirlfriend
But the bible also mentions that 'anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the priest who represent God must be put to death'
SaulTheDog
Levitical law no longer applicable. It must be read in context.
yourpretendgirlfriend
Forgive me. However, exchange 'bible' for Torah and my point stands.
SaulTheDog
Huh? I assume by that you mean the Torah is no longer applicable?
afbujinkan
There's also the fact that even 1% of 1.7 Billion people is still a lot of people.
iynque
Is "1%" the number of Muslims that are radical/terrorists? Or did you just make that up?
afbujinkan
I've heard anywhere from 1-30+.
greatbrono7
Yea the "not even a lot" statement is bullshit. Just cuz its not even close to half, does not mean its a small number. Millions is a lot.
thefreestyler
So is christianity. The thing about most of the Christian world, is that it is getting to be less religious and thus less fundamentalisitic.
SaulTheDog
Christianity is not extremely violent. One of the ten commandments is thou shalt not kill lol
baturinsky
Breastfeeding is as natural as eating. Or defecating.
Donkeyhead
So we should be allowed to poop in public?
plebbville
But not for an 5-8year old child (or adult)
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Most of the motherfuckers here are adults who effectively breast feed from cows so think about that. (i agree only babies should breastfeed)
plebbville
Well udder feed but i get the joke :p
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Yes downvote away because what you do with cows' milk is so much different than a human mother pumping milk for her adult offspring.
IsaacAhhhhhhh
What I pay prostitutes to do is nobody's business but my own
AGroupOfPugsIsCalledAGrumble
I would also include Dogs are better than cats
WoodNinja
I like both.
digdoug78
Most North Koreans agree.
schmoo38
No, don't ruin it.
uslydog
slow down mr woof.
eatmyass121
Now now no
DonutZlut
And can live vegan. Cats however, need the meats
JAYK42
No!
LiquidPoo
No!
eatmyass121
No!
RyanDog99
No!
BetterLateThanPregnant1984
Any dog less than 30lbs is a cat and cats are useless. J/k I love cats!
thefreestyler
Any dog less than 30lbs is not a dog. It is certainly not a cat, but equally certainly not a dog. It is a... a... glooff!!
thefreestyler
Gloofs are like, so lame.
AGroupOfPugsIsCalledAGrumble
I've never owned a dog less than 60 pounds
BetterLateThanPregnant1984
I've never owned a man less than 130lbs
szorg
But seriously....
BetterLateThanPregnant1984
pho sho
icameinlikeafeckingball
It really depends on the dog tho. I’ll take a cat over a chihuahua or a Schnauzer any day.
dudname
Depends on the dog. One of my favorite dogs when I worked in a shelter was one. Sweetest little thing that loved everyone.
icameinlikeafeckingball
Yeah probably. I’ve just got the stereotypical idea of them being nasty spoilt brats, which really is a problem of the owner rather than (1)
dudname
That's my opinion on it. Just like how people that assume pits are aggressive murder dogs. Depends how they are raised.
dudname
But breeds definitely do have "personalities". Pits have a lot of energy and chihuahuas are anxious. (not always the case for either)
icameinlikeafeckingball
than of the dog. (2)
SankingDragon
Breastfeeding is natural. So is urination. For that matter, so is an early death. An appeal to nature is always a bad argument.
Flyndaran
I was born lactose intolerant. Such natural actions would have killed me. I'm not a fan of that bitch nature.
Risiven
I'm opposed to babies being in public. Keep those things in your own homes I say, and off my lawn.
pizzaparty
I'm with you. Some kids were in my yard yesterday. I fucking hate kids. My partner pounded on the window and they spooked & ran. Hilarious.
SexDrugsBirdsandRocknRoll
It's always the terrible go-to stoner argument too. "It's from the earth man, it's good for you." Okay. Like this place is allll good stuff.
SankingDragon
Humanity has spent the last 10,000 years trying to modify the Earth to suit itself better. Nature is overrated.
matata
Also, eating and urinating isn't same thing. one is okay fro public, other isn't.
ant3ony
I think OP might be referring to the backlash against breast feeding in public.
SankingDragon
There's no good argument for or against. We don't piss or shit in public either.
SuckAnElf
Next time you decide to eat some shit and drink your piss go hide somewhere then dimwit. Not even remotely comparable
SankingDragon
I wasn't making a comparison, I was refuting the appeal to nature.
SuckAnElf
You said there are no good arguments for breastfeeding. Not just the "it's natural" one because you consider it a bad argument.
TheButtyProfessor
We eat in public, you fuckwit
SHOWMETHERICE
This comment^ needs more upvotes
SankingDragon
So? Babies have different rules from adults.
Remne
Why do you have a problem with breastfeeding?
TheButtyProfessor
Which is why they are allowed to eat from breasts in public. There is literally no argument against breastfeeding wherever necessary.
DaisyDomergue
That's bs. Nobody gets upset when a baby is fed from a bottle, it's just that people get pissy when they see boobs being used for food.
stoploggingmeoutImgurIfuckingswear
So you want to build breastfeeding rooms everywhere? How is that practical?
SankingDragon
Perhaps you should read the comment in question, this time for comprehension. "Theres no good argument for or against ."
stoploggingmeoutImgurIfuckingswear
You said "we don't shit in public." We don't shit in public because there are private places everywhere to do that. Unless you are
stoploggingmeoutImgurIfuckingswear
suggesting that we build private places for breastfeeding to happen, I don't see how the two can be compared.
leatherneck1836
I was fucking a girl from behind at the mall and got in trouble for it...fucking is natural.
Remne
Except you don't need to fuck because you can control your sexual urges. But a baby's gotta eat.
leatherneck1836
"Baby's gotta eat" is exactly what she said before I stuffed her face.
SIrEvilMustache
See? That's a good pont. "Breastfeeding is natural" is not.
Sprixxen
Devil's advocate: Couldn't you pump and bottle feed while outside? Or get a cover so you do not expose yourself?
tallroses
Yeah...black people offend me too. They can eat, but not where I can see them. They have to use the back entrance and eat in the kitchen
Sprixxen
There are tons of ways to feed a baby without exposing your breast at a socially inappropriate time.
slippy123
Of course global warming is real, so is global cooling, and they've been real for billions of years.
Exarous
Totally agree with you!!! My Dad is a geologist and we always talk about how the Earth has done this since it first existed.
MonsieurLaPaditte
That's cool
MonsieurLaPaditte
I'm a comedic genius, I know.
strawmanAlert
*anthropomorphic climate change is real. Happy?
cerastes
"s-senpai, stop, you're warming me up too much! ah, there's CO2 all over me!" - anthropomorphic climate change
CorrectorOfSlightlyOffQuotes
Baka.
aCrowLeftoftheMurder
Is it true that a volcanic eruption can release more co2 into the atmosphere than humans have?
strawmanAlert
Sure it can, but that hasn't happened in an extremely long time.
Sprixxen
Co2 should take a back seat imo. The agricultural business is doing much, MUCH more harm to the environment.
Sprixxen
I'm not saying Co2 reduction isn't important, but a lot of people don't know that the biggest harm right now is livestock.
cerastes
Nope. They're included in the normal background CO2 fluctuation. https://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm
aCrowLeftoftheMurder
Cool. Thanks!
ZRod
It can during large eruptions but on average, volcanoes release CO2 under 1% of what humans emit.
PostMasterGeneral
I agree with some of these, but not all. I guess that's why issues like these aren't always easy to resolve. People have different views.
MostOfImgurGenerallyPissesMeOff
"rape is never the victim's fault" can be pretty bullshit, some people fake that they got raped. Obviously not all
FiftyShadesOfHueHueHue
But if they fake it, there IS no victim of rape. Cuz it didn't happen. It should read: When rape happens, it's never the victim's fault.
drcurlyfat
I don't *disagree* with any of them per se, but some of them are more complicated than that.
FiftyShadesOfHueHueHue
Which ones don't you agree with? I'm curious.
SweetBabyYeezus
Same
Lockerkid
I agree with this statement.
tanadarko
Doesn't the one about racism and how a person looks is really really specific?
RoguePineapple
Rape is never the victim's fault. But getting drunk and making bad decisions doesn't give someone the excuse to claim rape either.
danzafan37
The abuse one confuses me because it sounds like it is saying the abusee is also an abuser. The rest are pretty good with me
MadamMischief
I think what it's trying to say is that women can be abusive too, not just men
tanadarko
They just mean either person in the relationship can be abusive, or both of them.
KatInTheCorner
In some locations guns are needed (shooting wolves that are trying to eat your sheep is srs bsnss), but not handguns/assault rifles. Yeesh.
TheLastSouthernGentleman
I already can't own an automatic weapon. (Assault rifle is a made up term to describe scary looking guns)
NoahJoseph
Yeah, here's a great illustration of that point: http://imgur.com/j85rp2U Same gun, same capabilities; one just has a black kit w/ rails
KatInTheCorner
I think the big difference is the magazine. Take that off and I'm significantly less worried.
BlueBomber05
Not the same, the one on the bottom has a big magazine, doesn't have to be reloaded as often, you can kill more people in a mass shooting
KatInTheCorner
All guns look scary in the possession of someone you don't trust or know.
iameverythingimgurhates
To some people. Not to everyone. I've seen strangers with guns and it didn't bother me in the slightest.
KatInTheCorner
And what about them made you feel "safe" and not fearful?
obamahasmytv
Ya its pretty liberal
Sprixxen
Which one is liberal? I mean...In the US these look center/center-left. In Europe this looks center/center-right. In Russia this is liberal.
iamdistant
I'm not very fond of liberals.
GratefulUndead
For seriousl. Global warming!? A scientific conspiracy! Equal rights for gays and women!? Damn them to hell. Legal guns!? Those bastards!
obamahasmytv
Well you took it to the extreme, I was just making an observation how most of those views are towards the leftist side
mwahz
A more 'rational' side you mean..
hencethequeef
Reality has a well-known liberal bias. - Stephen Colbert
D3LLI5
like the good old liberal "islam is a religion of peace and if you try and prove otherwise you're a bigot and a racist"
napoleonsghost
Yeah. The nonbinary gender thing...I just don't buy it.
kate925
That's one I've got to be neutral on, it seems suspicious to me, but I don't live in their head so what right have I to 1/2
kate925
dismiss what they may actually feel. 2/2
Flyndaran
I have no mental gender, so the very concept of it is unfathomable to me. I just don't care and find it weird that so many go nuts about it.
Flyndaran
Who gives a shit? As long as you're not an asshole about it, you can think they're wombats for all we care. Just don't hurt them.
mcase19
You don't have to buy it. All they're usually asking of you is a different pronoun. That costs you literally nothing and can save them (1)
Zerubbabel
I think you can only expect people to play along so far.
mcase19
A lot of needless emotional pain
MimzytheBun
http://imgur.com/4F7JHNf
GratefulUndead
I don't think they care what you think neither are they asking for your permission.
napoleonsghost
Well someone's a sensitive little bitch today
GratefulUndead
Sure. Or acceptance and caring towards other humans and asking others for the same is not that hard. But sure, if you feel that way.
RenegadeTQ
They kind of are. Constantly asking for acceptance requires third party opinion. Tolerance is another thing
GratefulUndead
I think we all care to be treated with respect. Oh, but because one guy doesn't buy it? Well then, I'll just have to conform.
RenegadeTQ
You're asking for the conformity of everyone else by asking for acceptance though. How is that any difference. I'm not saying it's okay /1
RenegadeTQ
to be disrespectful but that doesn't mean a person should have to agree that a guy wearing makeup and a dress is suddenly a woman. (2/2)
JanaJustinsdottir
But that's more of an issue you have with science. I was amazed that an entire lecture in forensic anthro was dedicated to telling ppl that
JanaJustinsdottir
sex =/= gender, and that gender was a social construct, but I am constantly reminded that people still have issues with that fact.
JanaJustinsdottir
This was important in forensics because people who don't get that fact constantly misidentify gender in remains because of objects at burial
Wuhaa
- Disclaimer - As per US standards. Opinions may change across countries.
00LimaRomeo
Not much, chum. +1
transcend
*opinions may change across individuals
delapolla
*opinions may change across neurons
Spisepinden
I for one would never feel safe about people running around with guns. Swords on the other hand...
crazyatblay
Except Trump. He's still shitty.
Mayhzon
So are the alternatives.
NotaLizardmen
I hate when some idea is presented and someone freaks out because they assume its presented universally, when its meant in a certain context
leatherneck1836
As per the founding of the US (as a confederacy AND later as a republic), each state was intended to have its own culture, laws, and norms.
MediumPlatypi
They do.
leatherneck1836
Not so much...not since Lincoln fucked it all up.
TheCakeFlavor
Ehh, there's only like 4 different cultures in america.
Mayhzon
SHOTS FIRED!
Wibblywobblytime
Disclaimer -- He solely means guns cuz that's a recipe for destruction of civilization. Like how all americans kill each other cuz guns.
Ullur
My gun must be broken. Sniper rifle hasn't jumped out of its cabinet and shot any middle schoolers across the street yet.
TurtlUrtle
"I haven't killed anyone with my gun, therefore shootings must be a myth."
Ullur
Respond to a sweeping generalization, get criticized with another sweeping generalization. We've gone the full circle of stupid.
Wibblywobblytime
I see you sarcasm and raise you three more sarcasm!
vivianvixen
How is any of this negotiable (except, mayyybe, the gun one)???
chakarakarama
Because morality and personal standards vary just as much as snowflakes.
vivianvixen
Some snowflakes can piss right off.
chakarakarama
Whoa whoa now, what happened to tolerance?
vivianvixen
Who said anything about tolerance? Tolerance can piss right off! Acceptance, or nothing. Own your hate!
r00bKapow
Is it still a "side chick" if you're doing ethical non-monogamy (i.e. everyone knows and is cool with it)?
ampsych
I'm pretty sure the French think the whole "side chick" thing is perfectly normal.
PolarBearBleedingOnTheLabel
Actually .... No we don't
Wuhaa
Personally it's the gun part, the non-binary part and the trans part. There is a reason behind all three of them.
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irontom
Oh, great, found the dude who likes black and white camps.
vivianvixen
irontom
You should have the right to defend yourself from criminals and criminal governments. I'm not from the US btw.
ThanatosElNyx
And what may I ask is wrong with pointy sticks? Hmmm?
ThisUsernameIsNoLongerAvailableIsStillNotEvenAvailable
We don't have guns in the UK and no one has ever needed one to "defend" themselves. Guns are for killing, nothing else.
Mayhzon
I don't want to be that asshole, but right now a certain 1400 young females come to mind...
irontom
You have guns in the UK.
Bisright
Not really, level of gun ownership is pretty much limited to hunting. Not self defence.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Sure no one in the UK could ever have benefitted from having a gun in the history of your very old country. Just the people you conquered.
a1a1b2
I think some of them are negotiable in degree. For example, a lot of people feel there should be certain limits on abortion. For the muslim
vivianvixen
They're wrong, imvso.
a1a1b2
So there should be absolutely no limi on abortion whatsoever? How about third trimester without medical indication
vivianvixen
I honestly support post-natal abortion. Wrong person to argue with about 3rd trimesters. You'll have to pull me back from the 4th first.
mwahz
How do you limit abortions? Women should have the rights to their own body and their choices.
a1a1b2
the most common is term limits. Abortions after the fetus is viable are generally not permitted worldwide except in medical emergencies
a1a1b2
"viable" generally meaning around the 24 week mark, when a baby could be delivered and survive
a1a1b2
one, "a lot" is vague and negotiable. Like is 200 a lot? Are supporters who don't specifically commit the acts themselves terrorists?
vivianvixen
The statement in the OP is clearly being made through the context of a billion Muslims. Also, no. That's why we have definitions.
StarmanUltra
Exactly. It's not a lot when you talk percentage. But seeing as 1 is too many terrorists, I could see it as "a lot" in that sense.
a1a1b2
Also, there are better systems than "planned parenthood" in other countries, so the funding could potentially be better spent. Feminism is
vivianvixen
PP is what we have right now. OP says nothign about not developign somethign better.
a1a1b2
a broad movement and there are certain radical feminist groups that expressly advocate female superiority. Having a "side chick" is not
badmanjam
Saying no to gun control is saying yes to school shootings
hihellobyeoh
Saying yes to gun banishment means the only people with guns are the shooters themselves. Fuck off and stop buying into political propaganda
ThisUsernameIsNoLongerAvailableIsStillNotEvenAvailable
That's such bullshit. You fucking moron. Gun control prevents ANYONE from obtaining firearms. Look at all the countries in the world (1)
ThisUsernameIsNoLongerAvailableIsStillNotEvenAvailable
with gun control like the UK. We don't ever have any gun whatsoever. NEVER. Your argument is demonstrably wrong. (2)
TheAvengingKnee
People who obtain them illegally would still have them. Normal people who just lose it and take there guns to school/work/public place 1/2
TheAvengingKnee
would have less access to them as they would have to attempt to get them illegally. I think more support for mental health care is better.
irontom
No it's not. I don't mean to offend you, but you are an idiot.
ThisUsernameIsNoLongerAvailableIsStillNotEvenAvailable
No, he's right. You're an idiot.
irontom
So, if I say I don't want gun control I am saying I want people to shoot kids in schools? It's really that simple in your head?
vivianvixen
Who said anything about no gun control?