ChemistryAndPhysicsAreFun
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Apr 14, 2018 1:20 PM
ChemistryAndPhysicsAreFun
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Itsalrighttobeconservative
Fuckin Talcum X
Bron7osaurus
Op is a dumbass
Spidey209
Does Raytheon do plumbing - No - If they did the pipes would be fixed for $224m
CurlyWithASwirly
Gotta love when a democrat run city, for decades, decays its economy to the point that the only option left is to blame republicans
AntiCircleJerker
How come no one blames the Flint politicians who voted to use those old pipes and mismanaged municipal funds? Why not them?
GreenFox
"to make" is wrong. That's what they cost to buy.
BulldozersAndDirt
It’s conflating issues. Federalism prevents the national government from correcting the problem of a local government.
PrinceOfSpace
Oh this guy. Hes a twat. And also totally misunderstands how fed vs state funding works.
GWXerxes
Talcum X
PrinceOfSpace
Bubba83443
Isn’t the issue in flint already getting fixed? it just takes a fuck long time to replace all the pipes in an entire city.
d0o0o0d
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/water-flint-now-officially-safe-drink/
rYan7up
Money on those missiles was already spent. Not like they can get refund down at the good ol’ missile store!
whatsisname
You think the govt isn't going to refill their inventory?
rYan7up
Of course they are but we’re talking about a much bigger picture.
franksthetankandbeans
The Constitution gives the government the responsibility of the military, not local plumbing issues.
IncrediblySTIFF
Shaun king is a pariah
totalnsfw
Flint had the money and choose to spend it elsewhere. If it's that bad, move.
CoolKidzSayWhat
State budget vs federal budget
Camelspotting
The feds could declare an emergency if they wanted to.
TheFeralDog
For what purpose? The water issue is already fixed
DarkMutton
Flint water has been legally deemed safe to drink since January of 2017. It's under 15ppb which is industry standard.
Monkeyfighter
Would you drink it?
DarkMutton
As long as it comes out of the faucet clear, then yes.
FerrousBuehler
Fuck our problems, let's make problems for other people!
buttholewink
We are making problems for Assad. Remember him? Remember the fact that he used chemical weapons on syrians just a few days ago?
FerrousBuehler
I'm still waiting for the evidence befire I believe that. Hasn't even been an investigation, just accusation.
Whatupium
He had been confirmed to have done it several times in the past 5 year, I think it's safe to assume he did this one too.
TheOneTheyCallSir
The U.S government has given Flint approx $100 million for their pipelines. If the pipes arent fixed, its the local governments's fault.
shroomigator
The math skills are weak as fuck around here
McAnkeef
I'm guessing the national missle budget is different than the city public works budget.
SGRogers
Isn't this the Male version of Rachel Dolezal?
upvoteDogs22
Pretty fly for a white guy.
GWXerxes
Talcum X
UnderCook3d
Yes
Kwtch
I doubt there's many politicians that have money invested in the pipe industry though
ItWasMeIWasTheTurkeyAllAlong
Yes, but how would fixing Flints water problem distract from an ongoing special prosecutor investigation?
GeorgiaDawgs623
Yes, distract from the "Russia" investigation by royally pissing off Putin. The same guy you say is controlling Trump behind the scenes...
Rengii
ThePickliestRick
Honestly it would show that Trump is capable of caring about his citizens. Its the perfect angle.. dunno why he didn't take it
Tunisia
Republicans voted down funding it before, they'd do it again.
HeirElfSquire
But, the wall....
HeirElfSquire
Mmmmmm down voters
MystieNethersworth
I feel like if Trump personally ordered Flints water be cleaned- the publics opinion would swing drastically in his favor. Not mine but some
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Have every single denizen of Flint go on Fox News and sing his praises, then maybe he'll think about it. But they have to be grateful (1)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
afterwards. It's not like he'd be doing his job, mind you, he's doing them a favour. Never forget that. (2)
d0o0o0d
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/water-flint-now-officially-safe-drink/
nabacular
People would see it as a PR stunt, which it would be, and still hate him.
lurkymyrtle
Although a pr stunt isn't necessarily altruistic, if the only thing wanted in return is public favor, doesnt the act cancel the shallowness?
Shadowzatdawnornotiguess
Lead pipes can't melt Steele beams
Memaleph
Especially if they re full of water
iliketousegifs
Steely Dan can.
somethingsomethingwittyhere
can Do it Again?
TheFirstCurse
DaffyTheStuffedToy
Lead paint can melt steel brains
gruntswitheffort
Have you even tried?
TapToRetry
Who's Steele?
mushycow
Christopher Steele, the Trump dossier author
mushycow
This is a seriously stealth joke, clever +1
EroticCripple
You're not..... Wrong
RoloTonyBrown
Psh, you still believe in lead pipes?
amyhadalittlepond
It's a pipe dream.
supervillainsevilmoustache
Yeah, we showed them though! Now they’ll respect us! Or Putin will, or something something whatever. Mission accomplished.
supervillainsevilmoustache
Oh fuck, I was just joking and not one minute later read a Trump tweet he ends with “Mission Accomplished”. Jesus christ
Fastolfe
You just mind-melded with Trump. Your mind to his mind. His mind to yours. Quick, do something really stupid with hookers and money
TheWombatStrikesAgain
And he did it! Even more amazing: he did it retroactively!
supervillainsevilmoustache
It kind of sucks when your dumbest sense of humor matches POTUS. This shit is fucked up
supervillainsevilmoustache
Seriously, I think of the dumbest response possible to any situation and that fucking idiot is tweeiting that exact thing. He’s an idiot
Fastolfe
And that's becoming more apparent each day. I thought Trump was pretty intelligent at one point and now I think how does he even breath
krissypoojackets
Merica’......is going down the tubes in a hurry.
CurlyWithASwirly
You could...idk...leave? No one wants a dramatic cry baby around anyway.
krissypoojackets
Wow, a simple observation and you’re kicking me out my homeland. Why don’t you go back to anal with your sister and then go fuck yourself?
CurlyWithASwirly
Jesus are you 12? Or 13? #growupsnowflake
buttholewink
Stop being a drama queen
krissypoojackets
Bahaha! Right. Everything is going so well.
buttholewink
Civilization isn't collapsing yet
TheFeralDog
It's not really going bad either
krissypoojackets
I disagree, and I’m not even talking about trump or the gov.
VirginSurgeon
Looks like we should’ve spent more on public education
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ButteryButtsButterflyCups
Teachers are expected to solve every students poverty and abusive home lives. And then they get no support from parents or administration
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StrayBullet
Because 1,870,000 x 112 = 209.44 million and not 224 million?
CreateYourOwnNormality
You forgot the tip.
LooseyGooseyBrett
It's not a federal problem, it's a state/local one
TrumpIsACartoon
Is it too late to pay for Trump's education?
obviouscoconut
As a military member. Yes. Because there are way too many schools that are doing these kids an injustice.
Atemcyph
Is more easy for the government when people are uneducated
jayharrisbb6
Amazing that people still don't get state vs federal responsibilities.
TheScaryJello
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Ineedthesebasketsback
I don’t think that changes the message
MastaChaps
FEMA uses federal money for natural disaster relief. Congress uses earmarks to fund much less worthy local pork barrel projects...
SciGuy
Earmarks haven't been a thing for a while now.
BrockEffingSamson
Uh huh. And tell me again why we couldn't pass a federal aid package to help fix the problem?
d0o0o0d
Political shitposting isn't about facts.
d0o0o0d
Also, https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/water-flint-now-officially-safe-drink/
WarriorSuperman
Thank you. I'm glad I found this comment. +1
WardSharlow
Amazing that people think socialized killing of foreigners is fine, but socialized helping of our fucking countrymen isn't.
RachTrap
it's funny how people dont see how the federal government needs to step in when states start failing. if they dont. no need for federal gov.
tac71
It's not about state and federal responsibilities. It's about tax dollars going to missiles instead of fixing the problems in the country.
saltyvinegarstrokes1
Because those missiles were made and manufactured overnight with the current tax dollars?
itsgottabethehaircotton
Same reason they don’t understand why things in science get resolved. It’s “the government” or “the scientists” to those removed.
sovietracism
We can bail out the banks as a national emergency but helping our fellow citizens is left to the states
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
Exactly. God bless America?
Occasionalfunnycomment
A super small town next to me just got like 3 million from the federal govt so ya let's not pretend it's impossible to give states money
Occasionalfunnycomment
And the 3 million was for a new city hall building that was completely unnecessary
barnwolf
Yes, because the water in Flint IS safe to drink. While having our economy collapse because the banking system crashes isn't safe.
Filanwizard
The least the feds could have done is totally banned bonuses at any bank they bailed out.
PHATTGUS
The national government has the ability to regulate interstate commerce.
TheEvenPrez
Yea the Caesar dilemma. Any entity that can solve all your problems can make your life fairly painful.
Rifneno
We give untold billions in foreign aid, but we can't aid our own actual states? Seems legit.
cyno01
I dont see how having 50 different departments of something is less bureaucracy than one.
ShmooThaSchmuck
4 years with poisonous water seems like an issue the feds could and should help with.
TheScaryJello
Don't forget, Flint was run by Democrats for ages.
WherePoetryComesToDie
Irrelevant. The chain of events happened under the emergency managers appointed by Governor Snyder.
Rifneno
BrockEffingSamson
Don't forget that the immediate, proximal cause of the current problem was Republican policy.
ILogInToUpvote
Amazing that people still don't get that the federal government should be allowed to help in state issues when the states fail.
jayharrisbb6
They are ALLOWED to help, if they are asked for it.
SilverRazer
My understanding is that fed gov gives extra funding to states and in return it's allowed to mandate certain things
d0o0o0d
That road leads to the feds being in charge of everything, and the state govs being full of incompetent corrupt idiots.
CreateYourOwnNormality
* and the state govs still being full of incompetent corrupt idiots. ftfy
physicsisalwaysrelevant
That's a slippery slope logical fallacy
d0o0o0d
It appears to be what happened in Flint. Incompetent local gov fucked up and made a dangerous mess, and who cleaned it up?
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Incompetent State government forced local government to accelerate their schedule, causing damages. Feds have already contributed $120 mil+
ToTheLastDrop
How does that fail to describe the current situation?
d0o0o0d
You want to go farther down that road? I assure you, things can always get worse. The solution is competent people at the local level.
ToTheLastDrop
We're about as far down that road as we can go without mass disarmament, and thank god that's proven to be ineffective.
ImAGrower
Bingo. And a lot of states are more corrupt with money then the federal government. Live in a state with super high taxes and... 1-
ImAGrower
The roads have been really bad for years and only get patched most of the time. We barely see tax money used for anything public.
BaphometBarista
You must be in Massachusetts.
Metalhead47
*my regional transit agency* Hold my beer...
K2S0
CA?
apolloscrewedmeover
There is only so much to go around we want better education/welfare $ has to come from somewhere unfortunately its usually infrastructure
SirPoopsMagee
Pa?
clapsaddlep350
Flint isnt a money issue. Its a get off your ass and do the work issue
puffyjacket69
Fuck you.
chriselox
Everything is a money issue.
SaltyInternetPirate
No, it's a corruption issue.
redredgreengreen
Isn't that what they just said?
ocdmn
if you pour enough money in the right place it'll make people move.
PoppaBigBear
It's a money and corruption issue.
mrweekend
Exactly. Let Michigan figure that out themselves
PoppaBigBear
Nah, I rather bail out the people that need help and jail the corporation that fucked up the water supply and the mayor that let it happen.
mrweekend
Goes without saying. But the state should be able to figure it out. Flint has been fucked since gm left
PoppaBigBear
When the states are too stupid or corrupted to figure it out that's when the federal government comes in, remember it's the "United" states.
ellert0
Money can be exchanged for goods AND services.
youraveragedeveloper
Its a lot of random issues stemming from other issues stemming from other issues stemming from other issues stemming from other issues (1/2)
youraveragedeveloper
Shrek is love shrek is stemminh from other issues stemming from.... from- well shrek.
salbolini11
No, Flint is a "they're black so fuck em" issue
Steeltoedmonkey
Agreed!
StrayBullet
Flint Mayor Karen Weaver directed water crisis money to a political PAC. She is black. Both white and blacks caught corruption charges. 1/2
StrayBullet
It’s not racial. It’s corruption, money, and politics at the expense of the impoverished.
reicaden2
Oh please, lmao, half the politicians involved in this corruption are black... please drop the race card, it's getting old and faded.
mrweekend
It’s why trump is the president. Because people are tired of people like that
masterbrotar
mrweekend
Obama was president when it happened. So your argument is trash
HuddsMagruder
You are the worst kind of racist.
salbolini11
Pointing it out not supporting it
Steeltoedmonkey
Agreed
ForgotMyOtherAcct
I'd say there are probably worse. That's just generally racist, it wasn't killing anybody
itsnotwhoyouthinkitis
Explain please
clapsaddlep350
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/water-flint-now-officially-safe-drink/
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JPre35
What do you think parts per billion means?
AyAyRonn
Something incredibly relative to the chemical that's being measured
kr18
But hasn't the EPA rolled back previous clean air and water standards? So while it may be up to snuff now. Under the old regulations it 1/2
kr18
May still be considered unsafe to drink?
lue42
And yet 3 months later officials said it could be as long as 2 years before it was safe to drink unfiltered water?
lue42
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2017/03/07/flint-water-conference/98862674/
notmeiam
Get your facts out of here... YOU'RE killing the Narrative!!!!
BlameBilly
might just be me, but i have not heard if this site before, i need to do a bit more research on it before i trust it
BlameBilly
further, the author's only qualifications are being a blogger for the afore mentioned wrbsite
BlameBilly
even further, the sources for the article, while reliable to a degree, do not actually state altogether that much
HiddenSanity
Mother Jones leans heavily left and has had some fact-check issues, but are overall okay.
clapsaddlep350
They also rallied against a bill that would have allowed most private investment in the water system to further solve this issue.
RachTrap
ah yes, privatize the water supply and force people to buy overpriced bottles of water, that will solve the problem.
salbolini11
AND funneled profits to their cronies. Trump's America
dilbobaggins
Oh shit Donald Trump was president when Flint Michigan had lead pipes installed, you're right