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Edit: (As in, stopping and rolling forward again takes maybe an extra three seconds out of your day, not that you should stop and count to three before moving again.)
As someone who drives vehicles that take a good portion of a city block to stop, this one startles me at least two or three times a week. Once or twice a month, I genuinely think someone's about to roll right out in front of me. People stop in the wrong place, and they stop far too abruptly. There's a big difference in perceived intent between a car that's creeping forward from behind the stop line, and a car that just barreled right over that line without even slowing down (to screech to a halt at the very edge of the main road).
This is a bit of a no brainer, but I see it so often, especially on highways. I see cars that would probably crash if the driver in front of them slowed down a bit too quickly, let alone actually hit something and stopped.
As the driver of a wide vehicle who needs the whole lane, it drives me nuts when personal vehicles cut across the empty, "No parking from here to curb" parking lane to turn right, instead of actually getting into the lane, leaving the rearmost part of their vehicle still sitting in the middle lane as they wait for a chance to complete their turn.
I'm not talking about people piling into the intersection at advance greens. That's right up there with mild speeding for things I'm not even going to bother trying to discourage people from doing. This is about lanes with their own dedicated light, where you can only go on the arrow, no waiting in the intersection. People will try and keep piling through 'til the last second. Problem is, once that light turns red, the crosswalk signal starts, so at intersections with lots of foot traffic, cars trying to complete their (late) left turn get cut off by pedestrians, and are then left blocking all oncoming lanes. This doesn't happen all the time, but I definitely see it a few dozen times a year.
Exactly what it says on the tin. Stepping slightly off the sidewalk definitely helps too. It shouldn't in theory, but in practice, a lot of drivers aren't paying too much attention to anything beyond the asphalt. Finally, don't step back and wave drivers on while waiting for traffic to clear? What's even the point of the crosswalk then? Of course, this is only for crosswalks in the middle of nowhere. At a controlled intersection, just go on the light.
So, I did a bit of research, and apparently this is yet another thing that is uniquely a point of contention in the US, while being a complete non-issue everywhere else. Here in Canada, cars built after 1990 have to have daytime running lights. I drive for eight hours a day, and trust me, cars without light are definitely a lot less noticeable, even in bright sunlight.
Now, I'm pretty sure very few people actually do this, but I included it because it's annoying as hell. Had a police officer do it just the other day, then proceed to go zipping down a 50kmh road at what must have been about 80...
This is a big one. People usually know when it's their turn, they don't need you telling them when to go, especially when they're not supposed to be going yet. Same goes with letting people in from side roads. If traffics congested, sure, let a gap open, but if traffics flowing smoothly, keep it that way. They'll get their chance. I've lost count of the number of times I've waited for one last car to pass, only for that last car to stop to let me in, which I would have been able to do if they just kept going. Needless to say, I don't take them up on it, because if they decided to stop waiting at just the wrong time and hit me, I would be entirely in the wrong.
TinyRocktopus
Fuck people who don't signal give me a chance to give you room don't just swerve into me. Also if I signal I'm coming over so don't speed up
stoutde
I don't know you @OP, but I love you.
humptysorthopedic
Everyone makes minor errors, amirite? If they do it wrong every time, need to be splain. I don't get angry at errors.
humptysorthopedic
I was in unfamiliar spot, had odd 2x merge lanes w 2x yield, thot i was merging correct. fucked up. Once. Angry horns = Embarrassing.
DrHookah
DrewTheStampede
Also, if you are going 60mph in the fast lane when there is not a lot of traffic, you are an asshole. Get over!!!
Lysergian
I've been guilty of the last one. I learned that on my own after causing confusion a few times.
Landri
That first one, always gets me. Been nearly hit going down a street. Now when I drive it, I pretend everyone forgets how to stop.
LokiShinigami
My biggest peeve is when a large, slow vehicle pulls out in front of me, when there is no traffic behind me for 10 miles.
Atria
Or when you are just cruising down going the limit and some ass pulls out in front of you. With no one in sight behind or in front of you.
TheBlackKaiser
My pet peeve is asshats who use the right turn lane to bypass congestion then try to merge back. If the lights red they block any legit
TheBlackKaiser
Right turners. Just sit there with there signal light on blocking fucking traffic, I let them in because of the people behind them. But fuck
MrWobblyHead
My dad was a HGV driver. One of the biggest things to piss him off trying to leave stopping distance between him and the car in front. 1/2
MrWobblyHead
2/2 He'd create the gap only for some fuckwit to change lanes and move into it.
ImARedHead
The drivers that use the left turning lane in the road as a merge lane into traffic flow frustrate me to no end.
Gegenschein
gtmiller
Headlights are not there to help you see, they help others see you. Could not agree more.
IronicUsername
#2 Lucky if people maintain a 2 second following distance. I wish cops gave more tickets that.
Flamingle
Literally I'm always shouting "chill out" when people are coming up to a stop at 60 mph
StraightOuttaUsersub
I say bitch alot on the road when someone does some dumb shit. I guess i should wash my mouth with soap more often.
iMuteMorons
I scream at people turning into my lane. They make me slow us both down by acting like they're gonna drive into the side of my car...
iMuteMorons
Like-- just come to a complete stop! If you inch forward, I'm just gonna fucking slow down and wait.
Flamingle
People going into the middle turn lane from parking lots at full speed!! I'm going to swerve one of these days.
reload2456
The last one tho. I fucking hate when people do that at stop signs. Ill sit there for a fucking hour if someone else has the right of way.
gtmiller
Use your hands. Some people won't get it otherwise.
Tylendal
Actually made the front page about a year ago with the last one alone. (Different wording, and it was a puffin). It's my biggest pet peeve.
reload2456
Im not gonna get tboned by a jackass i thought i saw wave me on and end up having it be my fault because he had the right of way.
LegacyMuse
Use the on ramp to its fullest potential! Get your ass up to Highway speeds before merging!
LegacyMuse
I mean, heavy dump truck, okay, I get it if that's not doing 65. But a Buick should not be pulling in front of me at 45 when I'm going 65.
JosephMcCovery
Try someone getting on at 25-30, in front of loaded trucks going downhill...
onomatopoiea42
Also, don't fuck around with big rigs and people hauling trailers. They start and stop more slowly and weigh a lot more than you.
OldmanSerious
My dad put it as "If you argue right of way with a truck, it won't matter that you're right if you're squashed flat"
NiteRhys
So much shit on i25 and i225 in Colorado
Flymolo30
My dad got hit by someone who ran a stop sign 25 years ago. He still flinches when someone rushes up to a stop sign.
FlyingGiantElk
Trust everyone to drive selfishly, but please keep in the left lane unless overtaking.
Digitaldude427
I will never trust people to know the rules of the road or to obey them. I grew up in Northern VA
JosephMcCovery
I've always hated driving to/through North VA/DC/Baltimore, feels as though the cars are going to kill me, and I'm driving a semi.
THUB
Three seconds at a stop sign sounds like I'll get rear ended 3 times a week at least.
Tylendal
Don't sit there for three seconds. It just takes an extra three seconds or so out of your day to stop... then roll forward.
TheWalkingDaleFace
Wish people would figure out zipper merging.
grenzdebil
I'm afraid that is one of the true unsolvable, international problems.
solaslunas
i wish people would figure out 4-way stops
Trythekoolaid
Your mom figured out how to merge into my zipper
CalmyKingBee
"Left lane closed ahead? Better rush past all these suckers waiting in a neat line in the right lane already and merge at the front!" -Cunt
ARoseByAnotherUsernameWouldSmellAsSweet
Well here in Germany that is a definite rule that is taught in drivers ed. Sometimes even Police enforced when important roads are clogges.
jahovasfitness
That's like the definition of a zipper merge
Tzeitel
Yes, that's exactly what you should do. That's the actual definition of zipper merging...
Tzeitel
https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/cars/2014/07/the-beauty-of-zipper-merging-or-why-you-should-drive-ruder/%3famp=1 Hope it helps.
IntrepidWombat
Except... that's kinda what you're supposed to do, for optimal traffic flow.
ZforZoro
Wrong, that's what assholes tell themselves, using as much space previous would be optimal, not waiting for the necessity to merge.
killernerd
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2014/07/the-beauty-of-zipper-merging-or-why-you-should-drive-ruder/
killernerd
So, you're wrong. Using the entire merge lane is better for traffic and safety. No use in having an entirely empty lane for no reason
tesseract4d2
This is only the case because there are assholes who don't merge when the lane ending signs pop up. The whole reason it's backed up is>
TinyRocktopus
No you get over when there's room you don't go to the end and hope there is room and make people break to make room
TheGuyWhoBeatsHisMeat
hitlershairydick
And this is why we can't have nice things
killernerd
you don't have to "hope" for room if people know how to zipper-merge though. it's safer and more efficient too
squirrelfury
There's merging lanes for a reason, if you purposefully go all the way to the end of it: dick move & enjoy being parked there.
killernerd
why though? If I have an entire merging lane to use, why not use it all?
squirrelfury
It's there for you to find time to merge, not cut in a line.
IntrepidWombat
I mean, I don't actually do it that way (because America), but using the entire merge lane increases overall road capacity and throughput.
killernerd
also from another comment: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2014/07/the-beauty-of-zipper-merging-or-why-you-should-drive-ruder/
squirrelfury
That's all fine and good but in general not safe. If there's room to do it, fine. If it's bumper to bumper already that's different.
myusernameisnotcreative
Asshats turning left that just kinda drift into the right lane causes so many collisions when others just wanna make a right on red.
CausticCake
Technically, the people who are making the right on red don't have right of way. They do if their light is green
Ulthirm
They don't unless it's a green arrow. Green solid dot means yield to traffic till safe to turn.
Beelsebooob
Actually, they do (at least in CA). When turning left, with two left turn lanes, if you start in the left hand one, you must finish in 1/
Beelsebooob
the left hand one too. Someone turning right on red has every right to turn into the right hand lane. 2/2
myusernameisnotcreative
That my be, but I am pretty sure changing lanes in an intersection isn't necessarily legal either. I am talking more than one lane too
Tylendal
It's like U-Turns. It's legal if you do it safely... and if anyone was close enough to see you do it, then it probably wasn't done safely.
Ulthirm
Your supposed to go 100 feet last I checked before changing lanes (from an intersection that is)
Devious11
What irks me most is people impeding traffic in the left (passing) lane, if someone is behind you in the left lane you've failed.
TheWalkingDaleFace
Sometimes when your 80000 lbs, it takes a little longer than 4wheelers.
ThisIsTheBestUsernameICouldComeUpWith
My area has left and right exit lanes on the freeway. I hate when I'm going 5 over and have to exit left, and somebody gets pissed I'm slow.
CausticCake
You haven't driven in upstate NY then. The consensus is you're fine as long as you're passing people.
Beelsebooob
That's not just the consensus - that's the law. @Devious11 is incorrect.
CausticCake
it's not the law if the police refuse to enforce it. many a time where i was stuck behind a truck for miles and cops did nothing
Beelsebooob
Was that truck also passing people? If so - he has every right to be there.
CausticCake
i mean, if barely passing at a couple mph counts as passing. sometimes, not even. trucks will still try to pass while going the speed limit
Beelsebooob
Not true - the only rule for the left lane is to be going faster than the person to your right, nothing at all about the person behind you.
iMuteMorons
Idk about that. When I'm doing 75 in a 65zone on the freeway, I don't feel guilty making people switch to a slower lane to pass me.
CrabbyOldGuy
Your user name is wrong. Left lane is for passing, if you're being passed you aren't passing. Get in the right lane.
iMuteMorons
Your username is right, tho. Get out of your hick town and you'll learn about this magical thing called a freeway with more than 2 lanes.
Beelsebooob
If they can switch to a slower lane, that means you could too - and you should.
iMuteMorons
Not if they're traffic weaving. I've got a right to put a good 2-3 carlengths in front of me at that speed.
Beelsebooob
Actually, 20-30 car lengths at that speed, and yes, agreed, dicks who weave through people's stopping gaps are... dicks.
Beelsebooob
(3 seconds at 60mph is 80.4m, cars are on average 4m long, so 20 car lengths is the safe gap at that speed).
iMuteMorons
20-30 car lengths? Lol. You aren't from California
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ElbowDeepInAPsychoticBreak
210 you say? http://cdn.hark.com/images/000/961/232/961232/original.jpg
ScubaSteve6933
I'm not sure if this was meant to be a joke, but I completely agree with it. Regardless of speed, if you're not passing someone, move over.
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Beelsebooob
That's rather the point - @Devious11 is trying to claim that you should move over no matter what if the guy behind is faster. That's not 1/
Beelsebooob
the way it works - the way it works is that if you are passing someone, you have every right to be in that lane, whether someone wants 2/
Beelsebooob
to pass you or not. Of course, as soon as you have a gap to move over and are not passing any more, you should, but you are not 3/
Devious11
Actually in some states it is law if you are in the left lane and are impeding traffic you can be fined.
Beelsebooob
You're not impeding traffic if you're overtaking someone.
orangechrusch
If you're keeping 11 car lengths distance on the highway (length/10kph) you're gonna piss a lot of people off
JudgeVegas
It's only 55m at 110 km/h or just under two seconds.
JosephMcCovery
Around Indianapolis, it's difficult to keep 1-2 car lengths off of people at times.
Tylendal
Distances can be hard to judge on the highway. It's really not that far at all.
orangechrusch
That's fair, it definitely feels like half that distance if you use the two 1000s rule, but I've never measured it
CalmyKingBee
As someone who drives a large truck occasionally: I hate making turns when cars think the "stop" line is the "Stop well past this line" line
JosephMcCovery
I love that, because I'll make my turn anyways. Either they back up, or I'm popping my brakes until they move.
Tylendal
Or when you take two lanes for a turn, and they sneak right up into your kick-out area.
omglolbah
We have a glorious little intersection in Bergen. If you cross the line you WILL block any bus coming around the corner.
omglolbah
Aaaand there is nowhere else to go than onto the sidewalk to get out of the road for the bus. I see people do that at least once a week.
Breginor
That safe following distance one drives me crazy.. tailgaters everywhere on the freeway.
ottotravel
Urmehgad California drivers.
RangerRick9
literally pretty much every state
iMuteMorons
In Los Angeles 4inches constitutes the proper distance between cars on the freeway for other people not to merge in between.
TinyRocktopus
Fuck them they're behind you. Not your problem
lupinypupper
Until you get rear ended when traffic slows. That is my problem.
CausticCake
Sounds like you should scan ahead/further more often
atleastIwasnt36
Then don't sit in the left lane
Breginor
If the speed limit is 60, and I'm already doing 70, there's no reason for someone to tailgate me. You wanna speed even more? Go around.
Lovingtheoreos
Often I get tailgated even when I'm pushing 10 miles over the limit, and I'm never in the left lane unless I'm passing
SweetStache
I don't brake check, but I absolutely slow down when someone rides my ass.
JohannesFit
The only time I'll slightly ride someone's ass is when they're going 60 in a 65 in the very left lane. Move to the right if you want to slow
SweetStache
Then go around them. Like I understand it's bullshit, go the speed limit, especially if you're in the fast lane, but ass riding ain't cool
SweetStache
And could end up hurting a lot of people if things go wrong
FungusForge
I'm a passenger with second hand road rage. They get a pair of middle fingers out the window.
gtmiller
In Austin. So many close calls because people going 50 just stop on the interstate. Have to stop in 1000 ft without getting ramed myself.
NiteRhys
I only do it when I know the guy next to me is going to cut me off. It annoys me though when I do back off far enough it happens anyway
iupvotebadcomments
Always drive with my headlights and foglights on, fyi foglights are not the same as brights.
klynda
No, foglights only when it is legitimately foggy. I wish everywhere ticketed for foglights on clear days.
Tylendal
What the hell is wrong with foglights? They're dull orange lights that point at the ground. They're like... the least offensive of lights.
klynda
If it isn't foggy, but the roadway is wet, it causes a reflection off the road that is distracting, which is why it is ticketed many places.
JosephMcCovery
Most cars nowadays (mainly in the US), come stock with foglights that are as bright as some high beams.
klynda
Dingdingding. And they aren't needed when it isn't foggy, and if the roadway is wet, it causes reflections that are super obnoxious.
FrozenFoodGuy
In my country fog lights are bright lights (not high beams), we don't have those orange lights you talk about.
CausticCake
Sorry OP, but as long as I don't have a red arrow or red light, I'm turning left whether or not there is a green arrow, that's the rule
CausticCake
And those who do will have right of way over those making right on red's. If their light is green, then they have RoW
JudgeVegas
"This is about lanes with their own dedicated light, where you can only go on the arrow"
CausticCake
yes, even if I'm in that lane, and there is no red arrow, but there is a green light, you can turn if it's clear
JosephMcCovery
Then, that lane doesn't have a dedicated light, where you can only proceed on the arrow. OP didn't mean "left when clear" lanes.
CausticCake
there could be a green arrow, but not a red one. i would still be allowed to turn. downvote me all you want, that's the law where i am
JosephMcCovery
Again, that means that lane doesn't have a dedicated light, i.e. a red arrow. If it just has a green/green+yellow arrow, it's a shared light