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Dec 14, 2017 7:16 PM
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yepido24
Competition without government restrictions. What a novel idea.
MediaMuerte
"You mean a free market? Nah we can't allow that". - government
Spearka
....On Mars
misplacedcomma
Fuck ajit pai
VinerialBlumpkin11
Why trust him any more than some of the ISPs that have already promised to uphold neutrality? He has had shady dealings exposed.
xrufus7x
cause he is internet popular?
HatredandVitriol
Wanting another for profit entity to build a parrallel is hardly a good solution.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Depends on the for entity, SpaceX is for-profit and still does launches 5x cheaper than the competitor. If that's the standard, sign me up!
Pepperkeet
Ugh, enough with this jackass... he sounds like trump each and every day... a rich blowhart talking nonsense and doing nothing.
GrandmasterDude
Who is that?
Visualtiger95
TurtleUpAStorm
Literally no one calls him that
MyDixyRect
Screw Ashit Pie
fracitimout
He won't though. His plan for satellite internet is not feasible.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I'm sure you know more about satellites & internet than the guy who invented reusable launch vehicles & Paypal. Why wouldn't it be feasible?
ushistorian
This obsession with Musk is so freaking creepy.
Mekanismen
It would feel approximately 35 good to put all ISP's out of business
YesYouJustLostTheGameAgain
Yes, I understand this statement...
shaundo
On a 1-10 scale? I agree, 35. At least 35.
Joseph123456
Well the base model is only 35 good, but it’s actually better because the tax incentive
J0hnm13
That's literally what already happened though, it's why all they hold a monopoly. We need more ISPs competing for customers, not fewer.
bed1am6666
But then you'd have no internet whatsoever.
lcplspanky
Not just what the other guy said, but you can make a consumer driven one pretty easy with the know how, I’ve been looking into it 1/2
lcplspanky
In case worst comes to worst, tho I’m really hoping it doesn’t
ProtectTheCookies
I would much prefer there are many many more so we actually have competition. Even Musk's companies will be run by others someday.
valen00
I like my ISP, but I'm in Australia, the government owns the fibre and I have a choice of 150 ISPs selling services on it
TommyWa
In central Texas I have 2 choices. Verizon DSL (~1mB/sec max) or satellite with a few seconds of ping. It sucks :(
valen00
yeah but you have freeeeedom. right?
valen00
The government half fucked setting it up though. NZ $100 a month gets you unlimited gigabit whereas here I get 220gb+ unmetered Netflix at
valen00
100mbit
mebe21
Damn. I pay $65/mo for 1tb of 150megabit. Yay America!
ElectronicArtsOfficial
I pay $75 for half that cap and half that speed. 'Murica.
valen00
you can get cheaper plans in NZ, but not unlimited and gigabit speed ;-)
MiaMagikarp
Please don't give up fighting for internet freedom in States, pester your representatives 'til you're free again. If you lose - we all lose.
thelonedingo
No one actually calls him that
NeuerStandard
i wouldn't use an internet controlled by a single person, no matter who that person is
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
If you're using any major ISP, you already are.
NeuerStandard
i don't know what that is tbh or how to translate it to non US measures
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Well you said "i wouldn't use an internet controlled by a single person", but even the one you're using now is controlled by a single person
NeuerStandard
do you know by whom so i can be negative about him?
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
That obviously depends on your ISP now doesn't it
Skizmo
jay.... A NEW SCAM !!!
OfficerBathtub
Its almost like 98% of you dont even know what net neutrality even is...
PiggyWobbles
Wishful thinking - the only way this ISP succeeds is with hundreds of million in investment, and it is betting entirely on consumers to >
PiggyWobbles
< vote with their wallets. We all know 95% of americans are either unaware of these issues or don't care enough to actively switch
CartoonsPlural
Oh my god its as if opening the internet to the free market will encourage innovation and advancement like this no waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
DrHighlen
lol sheep always looking for the rich to give you hope
NeuerStandard
^
chiefs86
So, you want the free market to fix the issues, as opposed to government regulations? Imgur, I didn't know you could be libertarian!
pessimisticcreeplikesitrough
at Model 3 release/delivery speeds.
MetalsolidGear
You forgot that he did more with the Tesla brand in the past 10 years then any other car company
pessimisticcreeplikesitrough
over-promise. under-deliver.
CaptainCiph3r
"I'm going to make an electric car with autopilot.". -Makes an electric car with autopilot.-.
pessimisticcreeplikesitrough
"autopilot".
pessimisticcreeplikesitrough
Assisted driving. Wonder how the promise of 500k units by end of 2018 is going.
CosmoRaider
You keep focusing on the same issue while ignoring what other people are saying. hmmmm...
tekomuto
If thats true... then its what aji or whatever his name is wanted....
SithRuleOfTwo
shit pie
PiggyWobbles
it isn't, this is just starry eyed wishful thinking. Like saying "I'll make a health insurance company thats cheap and respects customers!"
tekomuto
Yeah, thats why I added the "...."s
6reut
Exactly, don't see what would be the difference either.
SnarkyScience
Btw, Ol' Musky is a great businessman. But he does not know technology at all. His speech at NIPS was completely ignorant (on AI).
HolyCringeLordBatman
Holy fuck thank you, as someone who only dabbled in AI in uni I cannot stand lay people trying to speak about it
LMTMFA
Yes, very likely, as the man is not elbow deep in research on it himself, can't possibly have to do with deep insight on the matter /s
HolyCringeLordBatman
Listen, the man's done good with Paypal SpaceX and Tesla, that does not make him unquestionable on topic he doesn't know
SnarkyScience
Which am absolutely fine with. What is concerning is when he makes sweeping statements about "the future of AI" as if he DID have insight.
LMTMFA
The /s was for sarcasm, the man obviously does have insight and experience himself and teams to brainstorm with.
coreyjayb
The whole point of the repeal, encourage private competition like this. Proves their point.
HolyCringeLordBatman
In absolutely no fucking way is "Do not filter traffic" a burden that prevents a startup.
Ansatsunin
.. The repeal actively entrenches already existing monopolies that are the result of collusion and cartels. If Musk does this and people 1/?
Ansatsunin
step over en masse, the people financing the push to repeal NN (through fake comments using stolen identities, A Shit Pie, deletion of 2/?
JessieJanson
He was planning to make his own Global low latency ISP for a long time now, well before this decision was an argument. It proves nothing.
Ansatsunin
pro-NN comments, etc.) would not be happy. 3/3
roscuro
It just occurred to me he could go to almost any home and would probably be welcomed with open arms. Just for being him.
AMeaslycommentNotWorthTheDownvote
Ol musky could shit through a hole in my ceiling and I'd still let him in.
NoMoreRhymesNowIMeanIt
Anyone who has ever tried to do business with him will disagree.
BluePineapple64
Being a tough business man is a necessary characteristic of anyone being successful. He’s just also a cool dude.
blunte
I will slow smoke a texas style brisket just for him.
ctennessen
I would love to meet the guy.
shakedownblues
5/7 would feed.
livingscreamydreamy
7/7
dwilson0725
What, a perfect score of 5/7 isn't good enough for you?!
Lucatiel0fMirrah
I'd let him fuck me in the ass
HadMeSomeChickens
You've never met my in-laws
Cheesecakecrush
Being an internet legend and being a household name are different things. There is a huge amount of people who don't live on the net.
roscuro
...i don't get it
SpringToMyWinter
Well, for doing what he’s done and believing what he believes.
perrycRunner
I would literally do anything. It would be like if the pope visited my great grandmother.
ChronologicalMyopia
"Oh, you just showed up? How thoughtful of you!" - Obscure game reference & anyone if Musky just popped by for dinner, probably.
Arcian
Eh, he has good goals but he exploits his workers pretty bad and doesn't want them to organize for better working conditions.
PMyourDrawings
I work for a company that makes parts for SpaceX. We do billions a year globally and we're a very similar company as I imagine any 1/2
PMyourDrawings
company in this field. We have a union for our plant workers but the union fucks 'em anyway. They get holidays taken away w/out holiday pay
MechanusIncarnate
Exploitation of workers is par for the course. Good goals is what puts him ahead of any other similar person.
Emrys12
So its the workers fault or the system that they dont allow bosses to exploit their workers? And what do you mean by good goals?
Emrys12
2/2 theres a lot of people with "good goals" in fact id assume pretty much everyones goal is good in relation with themselves.
Arcian
Absolutely, I agree with that. I only wish we had an economic system where Musk could do the things he does without having to exploit people
Emrys12
And i wish you worked for him under those conditions
Mydogbrowsesimgur
Nope I would not invite him in
donkeymoney
*any home with Reddit-type nerds
Jocktopus
I would feel like I owe him if he stayed at my house.
TheRealSarah
I'd let him do my wife
willemdafoeindrag
I'd have his child. And he the type to not make you worry about child support.
rowdybob
I woke NOT let him do your child.
40ozinmylapandimfreezinmyjunk
I'd let him do my husband.
ItsMattyNotDaddy
That username though, ily
40ozinmylapandimfreezinmyjunk
eskymojoe
I’d let him do you
NZSheeps
I'd let him do your wife
NoAsBigAsMediumJockButBiggerThanWeeJockJock
yeah, she can take another one for the team
LetTheJimmiesRustle
hol up, another one? That sounds a lot like a story?
Imapancakenom
1 The only bad thing I've ever heard said about him is that he's hard on his employees in the sense that he expects them to be 80 hr/wk...
ImGonnaRickRollYou
I've heard that he is not an ideal romantic partner. But who cares. He's the hero we need. But not the one we deserve.
meencontreconunarusaquesabiaquenataliaoreiroerauruguaya
Said @smallpenis4
ImGonnaRickRollYou
Said a few of his exes. Apparently he gets bored kinda easy and likes to move on.
MistressLyda
Pretty common among driven people, and people with high IQ. Sucks to get close to them though.
thatSteveFan
I think that was just intended to be a lighthearted joke about your username a romantic relationships
Imapancakenom
2...super-high-work-ethic-obsessed in the same way he is. Which I don't think is really all that bad.
eskymojoe
*to
PlatypusShankie
Amazon is like this, I feel.
eskymojoe
If that’s what he expects of his employees then it is up too them too decide if that’s the workplace they want.
appelelle
Nope. It isnt. Sadly, we do not live in an enviroment where people choose work like meals on mcdonalds. This is a problem partly with 1/2
spacecowboyein
I hate that culture but I think it's something best left to the free market and not to be regulated. If some people want to work more
appelelle
Musk, but a bigger problem with the organisation he represents. I love him, but ordinary Joe still needs to come home to his kids.
ItsUncleSam
Not this home
Kitastrophe
He creeps me out as a person, but I'm totally comfortable with him saving the world for me.
Bloxyboi
Except for Texas
mac821
Unlike Mark "What's your Shtyle?" Zuckerboink
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
*shtoyle
ImGonnaRickRollYou
Zuck's a cuck
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Cuckerberg
Ninjanieer
The art of fighting without fighting
JayEnfield
I'm anti-Musk. But not because I really have any beef with him. Only because I'm sick to death of the circle-jerk.
JayEnfield
"OMG, Musk promised to cure cancer by next Tuesday, we're all saved!" Settle the fuck down.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
As someone who admires Musk and the technology he creates, you're right, this has gone from a circlejerk into blind worship like a religion.
JayEnfield
Well hey, thanks for visiting me at the bottom of the downvote pile. :D
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Have a feeling I'll be joining you. Would love to see the look on these teenyboppers faces' if they ever found out Musk's political views.
BecauseDogsDie
It's crazy. Literally just another technocrat millionaire. He isn't different. Dunno why he is the businessman everyone obsesses over.
JayEnfield
He's got a message of optimism and hope that's been missing from futurism for a long time. I'm fine with that part. Just not blind worship.
Imgurseemsprettychill
He'll launch satellites and save us all!
romicra88
Hasn't he already? The little toaster sized ones?
hellothisispeggy
starlink supposed to go into service around 2019-2020. afaik they have nothing up yet
romicra88
Gotcha. Thanks
uzerok
Ping times for satellite internet are awful. The laws of nature are a bitch. Sorry.
SecretlyASquirrel
Those aren't Musky satellites though. Musky satellites will have your net delivered with free pizza and Ajit Pai tied in a duffel bag.
ZuIthar
Those satellites are much, much further out than he plans to put them
uzerok
So how far are they supposed to be out?
ZuIthar
Low earth orbit (1,200 miles) vs the current ones in geostationary (22,236)
ZuIthar
To put that in perspective, the United States mainland at it's tallest and widest are 1,582 and 2,680 miles respectively.
uzerok
Never mind, I found the number. 1,200km that's close enough and could work.
ZuIthar
I mean..I just gave it to you so :/
uzerok
Sorry, didn't see the reply.
NoMoreRhymesNowIMeanIt
OneWeb is actually waaaaaaaay closer to achieving this than SpaceX is rn.
hellothisispeggy
afaik they are both still in the design phases.
NoMoreRhymesNowIMeanIt
OneWeb already has a few satellites in orbit. And a manufacturer and launch vehicle. I *think* SpaceX only has the vehicles figured out.
hellothisispeggy
I look forward to seeing their offerings.
PatrickCashman
I emailed OneWeb to ask their stance on NN and how I would ditch my ISP for them depending on their stance. I'm still waiting for a response
WillLiterallyFuckYourShitUp
Well how long ago did you email them
PatrickCashman
December 5th
overcastdaze
I hope he does
ItsUncleSam
I don’t. I’m done buying into this guys bullshit
afriendinneedsafriendindeedafriendwithmemesisbetter
He's got reusable rockets. If he can make satellites deliver high speed internet... could literally give the entire world internet...
JackRusselHarrier
I feel like this is half of the evil plan in the first Kingsman movie
downrightmike
He didn't. pulled the plug so Russia could kill a bunch of Ukrainians
chargeling
I hope he doesn't. Let him focus at those projects he's already doing. They're important as well, and one man can only handle so much.
ListlessGeek
Me too. I was so ready to learn Korean and move to S. Korea so my geeky ass can MMO in peace. Japan was also an option. FFS, anywhere w/ 1/2
ListlessGeek
2/2 fast and stable internet & a healthy population of geeks is OK. I never leave the house anyway!
Borndot714285
I sincerely hope he doesn't eat his words, time and again.
ThunderousGalaxy
Starlink, in the works right now
Grinch01
Exactly my thought at the moment i saw you were faster but it would still be awseome
Barbarian90001
Like Google Fiber? A lot of talk, but still nothing except for the 2 people who have it.
EADimgur
I think the difference here though is there's no wire laying (more or less) so he can get around monopolies on the infrastructure in cities.
masterofallhesurveys
Many current internet providers have contracts with cities that really limit the roll-out of Google fiber.
magoslich
To be fair, they are still planning on providing more but ran into a major tech and access hurdle in building their networks.
Hummingbirdbandit
To be fair, Google Fiber requires an impressive amount of infrastructure. It's not gonna come fasr
hiredhobbs
Infrastructure is the biggest hurdle, and that is the only benefit of title being repealed. Fiber will be coming even faster. Silver lining?
ThisOneKid
They're finally rolling it out in some parts of SA and I can't wait until it hits my area
Accountingcounter
So glad I have it knowing they aren't a traditional ISP and their stance on this
mmartin762
I can't help but wonder how neutral it would be. For example, PayPal forbids the sale of certain items, so I'm not sure he's above 1/2
mmartin762
Limiting access for political reasons.
Xenolith166
What items?
PenisShapedPoops
What items? Are they banned for political reasons? Like competitors?
mmartin762
No firearm related items.
PenisShapedPoops
Oh. I mean nobody sells those, not even Amazon. I'd assume it was a liability. But a bit silly if it ain't illegal.
mmartin762
So what I'm saying is, if he's pro gun control, that's fine with me, but his company doesn't support purchases of legal firearm accessories
mmartin762
That's a service related bias based on a political opinion, so how do we know his internet would be completely neutral?
hwatL4bloopy
he should team up with pornhub and make it happen
TwoDogsNextDoor
Shit, they could do anything.
CloseTheGarageErin
An Elon Musk Porno?
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
Ol musky comes out with enough tech to give the entire country nerd boners. Porn was inevitable
whyaretheyalltaken
Yes, please.
TheRedBaKon
ThisNameIsntTakenYet
I think he is. SpaceX has a plan to send thousands of internet satellites into space by 2019.
overcastdaze
Thanks
rochamochaman
For real? Can anyone find a source? I'm too busy now but I'd love to read about it later. If not I'll try to remember another time...
TwoVhsCopiesOfGoodfellas
How hard is googling "elon musk satellite internet"? Took longer to write that comment wtf
LuckyWristbands
Dope, ima totally install them satellite reflectors on people's houses n shit
ElynaerDeiros
Tin foil sheets would prolly do it.
LuckyWristbands
Wait is it not gonna be satellite internet like Hughes net?
ElynaerDeiros
Fairly sure yea, but I was making a joke on tin foil hats stopping government mind control satellites.
illrateyourtitle
Im willing to pitch money in for this
KelseyTheodore
...Let's just hope he doesn't end up being a Richmond Valentine(from Kingsman)...
TerraDactyl89
Or he might be the first terminator, launching the satellites to create skynet...
KelseyTheodore
And now I'm even more worried.
LokeGroundrunner
Do you really think the ISPs won't try their hardest to stop it tho? Look how long it's taking him to get his cars past the auto industry.
drhubz
satellite internet sucks major dick. the latency is astronomically (no pun intended) high so you cant play any real time multiplayer games
SirAtlass
Bc the only satellite internet available today is provided by geostationary satellites, ~22k miles up. Musk wants LEO, ~hundreds of miles.
Zyrixion
Unfortunately like google, he's being halted at every turn by, you guessed it, other ISPs.
Donnicton
Elon is insane in all the best ways.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
"People can finally buy dildos on Ebay with a reliable pay system. Now, off to space!"
HY8world
So are the imgurians in this comment thread.
Boondangle40
I hope he doesn't get wrapped up in some molestation scandal. In these times, seriously
SpaceGK
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this mean thousands of rocket launches within about 1 year from now? That seems extremely unlikely
HY8world
Stupid people will believe anything
Boondangle40
I'm assuming they can send multiple satellites per launch
bigpoppi18
You can send multiple sats in one go. I believe india set a record of launches 17 on a single payload this year.
bigpoppi18
Launching**
Shamashd
ISRO's PSLV-C37 mission, yes, and it was a lot more than 17... 104 sats in one launch. Granted all but one were nanosats, under 10 kg.
SpaceGK
Or just starting the process by 2019? (I read some more comments and this seems more likely)
SpaceGK
But even if the process is complete by 2025 (as @JimmyFreese suggested below,) that's still ~1 launch/day + SpaceX's other operations too.
bigpoppi18
Definitely an optimistic time line but at least it means theyre working towards greater things
RedDwarfIV
Only if they launch a single satellite per rocket.
JimmyFreese
Yes pervasive 450 megabit low latency anywhere on planet earth, including flights. Complete system rollout 2024.
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
Is there a plan to deal with space debris?
dualcascade
That's a hoax, the guy who made the picture said it on his twitter
Zreen
That's how The Master gained control
SFMGifs
I mean... the other option is an orange guy with his pick of minions he took from the swamp...
6pace
that moment when he completely circumvents any plans to fleece the public of more media money
TheUtliterianUteranWall
At the moment satellite internet has massive amounts of ping ~700ms minimum in my neighbourhood so don't get excited for this if you game!
PJsnaks
Can you say where you live (eg rural or urban) and what company you use? I'm just finding out about satalite internet and its so interesting
TheUtliterianUteranWall
I live in Prince George, BC Canada. I don't quite remember the company because I'm studying in Vancouver currently but I live 1 km out (1/2)
Lefthandturnsignal
Compared to internet that block Netflix so you have to pay for someone else's version? I'll take it even if I can't play online
QuietGiant
Low orbit. <1k miles vs >20k of past satnet. 25-35 ms latency.
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
How do they keep the orbits stable so low? Not calling you a liar, just curious.
IATTM
That's awesome! Do you know if it's tested tech, or are those stats just projections?
ElynaerDeiros
Probably projections but ol' musky ain't gonna let those numbers stay low if they are.
IATTM
Lower numbers are better for latency, but I'd say you're right that he will strive for better!
wunder4
Eh, projections haven't stopped him so far in anything he has tried, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
ALegendaryHero
This man is our future.
Mooninites
I for one welcome our Musk overlord
BlastWave99
God Emperor Musky
DurendaI
I'd fight for him.
seronx
Divine Primordial Sovereign Ol' Musky*
RandomTechpriest
Musky the founder of the Adeptus Mechanicus
Occasionalfunnycomment
No he's the future we don't deserve.
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6pace
straight up
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
Ye we'll just use it to continue our mindless meme sharing&cat taxing. Tbf it's part of intrnt but in light of things maybe there's more2it
thundercamel6
How do you get low latency from satellite internet?
QuietGiant
Low orbit. <1k miles vs >20k of past satnet. 25-35 ms latency.
aberry9036
Is this true? How are they geostationary at lower altitudes? Do they not need to be?
JimmyFreese
It will be a meshed network of hundreds of satellites, streamlining transmission considerably
PaintedSlate
The distance isn't the issue, it's more dealing with information logistics/processing parallax, I think. But it would lag next to cable.
DenaliRaven
There’s still be latency enough to make online gaming and other real time online activities unviable though