Sep 28, 2021 12:17 AM
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Sick days
Daisychain360
I think work pays for up to 3 days here and then the government pays for the rest up to maybe 6 months and then you go on reduced pay.
DannyDoggo
America Get Real. Like the rest of the Medical Care. You can't convince me that only specified places are the only place to get tested. B.S.
k98aj01
The theatre world is not happy either. We just re opened, and while there is a city sick leave policy, after that runs out I see outbreaks.
alisa2089
I’m an immunocompromised actress and my soul hurts from not working since Feb 2020. :(
storebrandproductmascot
So goddamn tired of soulless corporate evil.
thatgalvalpal
I work for a disability insurance company with nonstop covid calls where I have to explain to people they're owed no money due to unpaid--
elimination periods that are often the entirety of a quarantine period. Quitting today with nothing else lined up, I can't take it anymore.
This job has fully mentally broken me. I'm so tired.
DappurDanMan
America is a failed state. It would terrify me to live there.
WhatBackWaterCountry
Agreed. It’s like watching a dystopian movie from afar. I consider myself lucky I live in country free of the lunacy I see happening there.
NKato
The McDonald's near me keeps closing their lobby. Golly, I wonder why.
TaviRus
Fuck...my company just extended an additional 3 weeks of pTO for covid related stuff to vaccinated people. Sorry to hear
15awilso9000
Which country tho?
ConfederacyOfDunces
Make a wild guess
upontheturtlesback
In Canada, violating quarantine after a positive test is up to $1M fine and 3 years in jail.
Firestar002
Better advise them that you got covid. If they ask why you’re not home, tell them the truth: you need to pay the bills.
medicrn
I don’t think healthcare workers are the high risk jobs, it’s people like this who are.
gypsyspot
Colorado and california get paid sick for covid and family with covid related issues
McSnarkypants
Just tell him to get another test, over half are false positives so....
JudgySuitSnob
If the friend is vaxxed than thats a good a reason as any to make an unemployment claim. If they are unvaxxed then they can stay home unpaid
Sensiblyinteresting
When you file your first 2 weeks of unemployment they don't pay you for the first week so they will get $275 for half a month of no working
Yes unemployment will pay the claim.
raus
In my state, my decision for unemployment came weeks too late for rent and even after I was forced to get a minimum wage food service job.
I sincerely hope it's faster for others, but considering we're all stuck in this same broken system, I doubt it.
AppelNotApple
Borderline misinformation. The Covid credits were extended through 12/31 but new infra bill cuts them back to 9/30. Political compromise.
So don’t get riled up on Anti-trumpism, because this is a Dem decision.
DL17
I know of at least 3 Toronto restaurants that ignored staff covid outbreaks
Shaodyn
I used to work in a fast food place, and was told that we couldn't possibly shut down for a week because of a COVID outbreak.
Apparently, one week of zero customers would cause the store to go out of business forever.
Arcygenical
Toronto restaurant owners being pieces of shit? Surprising. /s
yeaaadude
It’s not only that, but the sheer scale of the people carrying it around. In my job (which I won’t say) I bet more than half would test pos
-itive today. I’m vaccinated so that’s the only thing keeping me from losing it
GeForcen
My sister is a waitress, she has had to isolate 3 times so far, she doesn't think she can afford to miss any more work.
vangundy15
Girl I work with lost her sense of smell. Never got tested. If she misses work she could get evicted and lose custody of her 3 children.
SerenePrincess013
Former employee came in to visit after allegedly having it, but never got tested. Only quarantined for 10 days. Then 2 coworkers had it, bc>
They both refused to get vaxxed. One spread it to her husband, who was furloughed from the hospital bc he also refused. The other took >
It home to her 5 kids & husband. None of them got tested bc "it's just a hoax" or "it's a flu, I'll be fine". The first 2 just got out
ButtersTheCat
I love how optimistic these expiration dates have been on all of the pandemic stuff, this whole time. Congress really had high hopes for us
CelestialSea
It's like they'd never met an American before.
januarylover
I think you're confusing optimism for complete & utter apathy
At the very beginning of the pandemic, when a lot of this stuff was passed, they really thought it would be "back to normal" by now.
The fact that it wasn't EXTENDED - THAT'S where the apathy comes in.
"Oh, the pandemic will definitely be gone in 18 months!" Florida Man:
PugDogMan
I believe the exalted orange one said it would blow over by Easter 2020…
Probably why they didn't give us the cushion we needed. Trump negotiated it down to 18 months, by acting like this would be over in 4 months
He also said it'd magically disappear after Election Day.
MLGsamantha
Dafuq? Half of them are telling their constituents that the vaccine is the mark of the devil, they don't give a shit about us
sethr05
Never have
No, I mean optimistic about where we'd be at with COVID by now. They thought it would be under control & "back to normal" by now, back then.
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steviEa
Eating ass > eating out > eating out
Botticelliii
Batman?
PinothyJ
What annoys me is this is the joke I was going to tell, but with more effort. Come on, Boticelli, the humour is in the subtlty!
I have the subtlety of a ball peen hammer, my friend. Browse usersub and next time you can whip out your surgical tools, Dr. chuckles lol.
PutItInNeutral
The company from this post needs to be outed as a matter of public safety.
iceColdBlueSnow
I eat out plenty. I just do it at home
PaulHurley
Not anymore
gahzeeruh
Heroes don’t do that
MapleIsMyHigh
Is that you, DJ Khaled?
GoGoGadgetBinoculars
that fat fuck deff eats fastfood LMAO
that fat fuck def eats fastfood LMAO
Gaxinator
Fuckin gold, Sir.
KingXizor
The CDC did point out fairly early on that getting the virus from food someone had sneezed on would be impossible unless you inhale a lot >
Of it. It has to get started in the respiratory system. That being said, i still get not going out cuz people are selfish and nasty.
Because people touch their faces, shake hands, etcetera. Spreads it around and increases chances of getting it up your schnoz or breathing >
It in. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/covid-19-update-usda-fda-underscore-current-epidemiologic-and-scientific-informat
omgwtfhuh
I'm not worried about food contamination, but about all the unmasked people inside close together, & probably lying about being vaccinated.
SirBillington
Yeah, it's the fact that the people could be forced to work with covid and now they're spreading it around just by being there.
Yes. Employers should have to pay sick leave and provide a safe work environment by limiting Covid exposure of worker, whatever that takes.
100%, the wage slave culture that America has is absolutely embarrassing.
Chereazi
And that's why I like my country. If my doctor says I'm sick I'm on paid sick leave and that's it. Currently on 3-4 months paid sick 1/
DangerTrain
Hell, you could have left it at "I have a doctor" tbh
MagneTismen
In my country I don't even need a doctor's note, I can be sick for up to 14 days without one and still get paid sick leave.
Silkyninja1
Which country? And can I come live with you?
greenlanternfry
Second
Austria. Will you do the cooking and cleaning? ?
Done. Be there in ... 14 hours and 27 minutes
lupinic
You got them boots that were made for walkin'?
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Real question... will you put a chocolate candy on the pillow?
Mairoa
Honey, I'll hand make the chocolate and deliver it on my bare tiddies if I don't have to live in this pyramid scheme disguised as a country.
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
Genuine question because I don’t know: who pays for the sick leave? The gov or your employer?
DiningKruger
Yes
Melanie10482
We have short/long term disability-70% rate of pay. Provided by the company-but not legally required in Michigan. ADA/FMLA rules still apply
Obnoxious
Both. Both is good.
For the first few weeks (depending on how long you've been employed there) the employer, afterwards insurance
autocorrectfailures
Wtf is sick leave? /sarcasm
I know what sick leave is. I’m asking who’s paying for 4 months of it.
I know what you're asking, but it was answered and i was just making a joke.
Ah so it’s kind of like workers comp then?
basiccricket8444
Workers comp only covers if you were injured at work
Kind of, but it's covered by your own insurance that everyone has by default. So it doesn't matter where you work or anything
Cataleast
Over here in Finland, a health insurance payment is automatically deducted from your salary (1.53%), which the employer pays to the govt.
DuckDebugger
Torille?
Alex053
Wait. Your healthcare only costs 1.53% of your salary??!!!!??
Caramster
What do you pay?
OnceIwasCaptainHammerNowIWishIwasNightMonkey
$500usd or more a month is what the cheap insurance retails for. So 8% of $25 an hour or so.
leave due to a surgery. "Socialism" fuck yeah!
drowscion
Well I’m JEALOUS so I think YOU shouldn’t HAVE it
ExtraAverage
Serious question, as a small business owner in the states. If a small business has 2-3 employee, are they expected to pay one of them to be
out sick for months, and potentially have to hire a replacement, while paying the one that's not there, or is that sick pay subsidized?
Wor3q
Also, usually you don't pay some of the taxes for employees on sick leave.
mycoffeeartjourney
The company has to set aside money for you being sick. It's like an hour for every 50 hours worked. The company doesn't have to pay u beyond
Upinthecold
In norway its also something about only covering 20%, and something about chronic illnesses goverment covers all?
FunctioningWorkaholic
No. In Germany, after 6 weeks the healthcare provider takes over.
RavenousBugblatterBeast
May I ask which country?
youareagreatguybut
Czech republic. And we prefer calling it "social democracy".
powerrangerpl
Almost every other country in world has better labour laws than the USA do. Germany, Austria and Scandinavia are among the best.
ZackWester
heck even some actual third world countries have better.
mayorofdrixdale
Same in Germany.
MosesSupposesHisToesesAreRosesButMosesSupposesErroneously
You get six sick weeks in Germany from your employer. Assuming you're permanently employed.
CASchoeps
You get as much time as you need to heal. Your employer has to front six weeks of pay first, then insurance steps in. The employer can get..
Mualainen
And Finland (probably Scandinavia too).
HelpMeImSpiraling
Same in Singapore. It's actually illegal for your company to ask you to return to work while you are diagnosed sick by a doctor.
Austria
StevieTheAussie
Australia’s not *terrible*, but you get a limit to your sick leave.
And they have great remedial reading programmes
LuigiEyetalian
Throw another shrimp on the barbie!
LooseyGooseyBrett
I heard of a guy from there that was a major socialist
EmptyHouseBurglar
Is he dead now? Does he sign a mean deepfake with Stalin?
Pgoodso
Yeah, Schwarzenegger.
prosper020
And are they accepting American refugees?
Czech republic too and yes.
Silverbananahorse
Please? I went to the doc for an ear infection. He said I have an ear infection and no joke, got $1000 bill later
InternetanonMD
Damn, that's a expensive way to tell you to buy cadiprim
BURYMEINDVOTES
and they want us to believe we are lucky,at least we’re not paying for someone else’s healthcare but we are but not for the ones who need it
Daisychain360
I think work pays for up to 3 days here and then the government pays for the rest up to maybe 6 months and then you go on reduced pay.
DannyDoggo
America Get Real. Like the rest of the Medical Care. You can't convince me that only specified places are the only place to get tested. B.S.
k98aj01
The theatre world is not happy either. We just re opened, and while there is a city sick leave policy, after that runs out I see outbreaks.
alisa2089
I’m an immunocompromised actress and my soul hurts from not working since Feb 2020. :(
storebrandproductmascot
So goddamn tired of soulless corporate evil.
thatgalvalpal
I work for a disability insurance company with nonstop covid calls where I have to explain to people they're owed no money due to unpaid--
thatgalvalpal
elimination periods that are often the entirety of a quarantine period. Quitting today with nothing else lined up, I can't take it anymore.
thatgalvalpal
This job has fully mentally broken me. I'm so tired.
DappurDanMan
America is a failed state. It would terrify me to live there.
WhatBackWaterCountry
Agreed. It’s like watching a dystopian movie from afar. I consider myself lucky I live in country free of the lunacy I see happening there.
NKato
The McDonald's near me keeps closing their lobby. Golly, I wonder why.
TaviRus
Fuck...my company just extended an additional 3 weeks of pTO for covid related stuff to vaccinated people. Sorry to hear
15awilso9000
Which country tho?
ConfederacyOfDunces
Make a wild guess
upontheturtlesback
In Canada, violating quarantine after a positive test is up to $1M fine and 3 years in jail.
Firestar002
Better advise them that you got covid. If they ask why you’re not home, tell them the truth: you need to pay the bills.
medicrn
I don’t think healthcare workers are the high risk jobs, it’s people like this who are.
gypsyspot
Colorado and california get paid sick for covid and family with covid related issues
McSnarkypants
Just tell him to get another test, over half are false positives so....
JudgySuitSnob
If the friend is vaxxed than thats a good a reason as any to make an unemployment claim. If they are unvaxxed then they can stay home unpaid
Sensiblyinteresting
When you file your first 2 weeks of unemployment they don't pay you for the first week so they will get $275 for half a month of no working
JudgySuitSnob
Yes unemployment will pay the claim.
raus
In my state, my decision for unemployment came weeks too late for rent and even after I was forced to get a minimum wage food service job.
raus
I sincerely hope it's faster for others, but considering we're all stuck in this same broken system, I doubt it.
AppelNotApple
Borderline misinformation. The Covid credits were extended through 12/31 but new infra bill cuts them back to 9/30. Political compromise.
AppelNotApple
So don’t get riled up on Anti-trumpism, because this is a Dem decision.
DL17
I know of at least 3 Toronto restaurants that ignored staff covid outbreaks
Shaodyn
I used to work in a fast food place, and was told that we couldn't possibly shut down for a week because of a COVID outbreak.
Shaodyn
Apparently, one week of zero customers would cause the store to go out of business forever.
Arcygenical
Toronto restaurant owners being pieces of shit? Surprising. /s
yeaaadude
It’s not only that, but the sheer scale of the people carrying it around. In my job (which I won’t say) I bet more than half would test pos
yeaaadude
-itive today. I’m vaccinated so that’s the only thing keeping me from losing it
GeForcen
My sister is a waitress, she has had to isolate 3 times so far, she doesn't think she can afford to miss any more work.
vangundy15
Girl I work with lost her sense of smell. Never got tested. If she misses work she could get evicted and lose custody of her 3 children.
SerenePrincess013
Former employee came in to visit after allegedly having it, but never got tested. Only quarantined for 10 days. Then 2 coworkers had it, bc>
SerenePrincess013
They both refused to get vaxxed. One spread it to her husband, who was furloughed from the hospital bc he also refused. The other took >
SerenePrincess013
It home to her 5 kids & husband. None of them got tested bc "it's just a hoax" or "it's a flu, I'll be fine". The first 2 just got out
ButtersTheCat
I love how optimistic these expiration dates have been on all of the pandemic stuff, this whole time. Congress really had high hopes for us
CelestialSea
It's like they'd never met an American before.
januarylover
I think you're confusing optimism for complete & utter apathy
ButtersTheCat
At the very beginning of the pandemic, when a lot of this stuff was passed, they really thought it would be "back to normal" by now.
ButtersTheCat
The fact that it wasn't EXTENDED - THAT'S where the apathy comes in.
Shaodyn
"Oh, the pandemic will definitely be gone in 18 months!" Florida Man:
PugDogMan
I believe the exalted orange one said it would blow over by Easter 2020…
ButtersTheCat
Probably why they didn't give us the cushion we needed. Trump negotiated it down to 18 months, by acting like this would be over in 4 months
Shaodyn
He also said it'd magically disappear after Election Day.
MLGsamantha
Dafuq? Half of them are telling their constituents that the vaccine is the mark of the devil, they don't give a shit about us
sethr05
Never have
ButtersTheCat
No, I mean optimistic about where we'd be at with COVID by now. They thought it would be under control & "back to normal" by now, back then.
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steviEa
Eating ass > eating out > eating out
Botticelliii
Batman?
PinothyJ
What annoys me is this is the joke I was going to tell, but with more effort. Come on, Boticelli, the humour is in the subtlty!
Botticelliii
I have the subtlety of a ball peen hammer, my friend. Browse usersub and next time you can whip out your surgical tools, Dr. chuckles lol.
PutItInNeutral
The company from this post needs to be outed as a matter of public safety.
iceColdBlueSnow
I eat out plenty. I just do it at home
PaulHurley
Not anymore
gahzeeruh
Heroes don’t do that
MapleIsMyHigh
Is that you, DJ Khaled?
GoGoGadgetBinoculars
that fat fuck deff eats fastfood LMAO
GoGoGadgetBinoculars
that fat fuck def eats fastfood LMAO
Gaxinator
Fuckin gold, Sir.
KingXizor
The CDC did point out fairly early on that getting the virus from food someone had sneezed on would be impossible unless you inhale a lot >
KingXizor
Of it. It has to get started in the respiratory system. That being said, i still get not going out cuz people are selfish and nasty.
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KingXizor
Because people touch their faces, shake hands, etcetera. Spreads it around and increases chances of getting it up your schnoz or breathing >
KingXizor
It in. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/covid-19-update-usda-fda-underscore-current-epidemiologic-and-scientific-informat
omgwtfhuh
I'm not worried about food contamination, but about all the unmasked people inside close together, & probably lying about being vaccinated.
SirBillington
Yeah, it's the fact that the people could be forced to work with covid and now they're spreading it around just by being there.
omgwtfhuh
Yes. Employers should have to pay sick leave and provide a safe work environment by limiting Covid exposure of worker, whatever that takes.
SirBillington
100%, the wage slave culture that America has is absolutely embarrassing.
Chereazi
And that's why I like my country. If my doctor says I'm sick I'm on paid sick leave and that's it. Currently on 3-4 months paid sick 1/
DangerTrain
Hell, you could have left it at "I have a doctor" tbh
MagneTismen
In my country I don't even need a doctor's note, I can be sick for up to 14 days without one and still get paid sick leave.
Silkyninja1
Which country? And can I come live with you?
greenlanternfry
Second
Chereazi
Austria. Will you do the cooking and cleaning? ?
Silkyninja1
Done. Be there in ... 14 hours and 27 minutes
lupinic
You got them boots that were made for walkin'?
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Real question... will you put a chocolate candy on the pillow?
Mairoa
Honey, I'll hand make the chocolate and deliver it on my bare tiddies if I don't have to live in this pyramid scheme disguised as a country.
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
Genuine question because I don’t know: who pays for the sick leave? The gov or your employer?
DiningKruger
Yes
Melanie10482
We have short/long term disability-70% rate of pay. Provided by the company-but not legally required in Michigan. ADA/FMLA rules still apply
Obnoxious
Both. Both is good.
Chereazi
For the first few weeks (depending on how long you've been employed there) the employer, afterwards insurance
autocorrectfailures
Wtf is sick leave? /sarcasm
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
I know what sick leave is. I’m asking who’s paying for 4 months of it.
autocorrectfailures
I know what you're asking, but it was answered and i was just making a joke.
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
Ah so it’s kind of like workers comp then?
basiccricket8444
Workers comp only covers if you were injured at work
Chereazi
Kind of, but it's covered by your own insurance that everyone has by default. So it doesn't matter where you work or anything
Cataleast
Over here in Finland, a health insurance payment is automatically deducted from your salary (1.53%), which the employer pays to the govt.
DuckDebugger
Torille?
Alex053
Wait. Your healthcare only costs 1.53% of your salary??!!!!??
Caramster
What do you pay?
OnceIwasCaptainHammerNowIWishIwasNightMonkey
$500usd or more a month is what the cheap insurance retails for. So 8% of $25 an hour or so.
Chereazi
leave due to a surgery. "Socialism" fuck yeah!
drowscion
Well I’m JEALOUS so I think YOU shouldn’t HAVE it
ExtraAverage
Serious question, as a small business owner in the states. If a small business has 2-3 employee, are they expected to pay one of them to be
ExtraAverage
out sick for months, and potentially have to hire a replacement, while paying the one that's not there, or is that sick pay subsidized?
Wor3q
Also, usually you don't pay some of the taxes for employees on sick leave.
mycoffeeartjourney
The company has to set aside money for you being sick. It's like an hour for every 50 hours worked. The company doesn't have to pay u beyond
Upinthecold
In norway its also something about only covering 20%, and something about chronic illnesses goverment covers all?
FunctioningWorkaholic
No. In Germany, after 6 weeks the healthcare provider takes over.
RavenousBugblatterBeast
May I ask which country?
youareagreatguybut
Czech republic. And we prefer calling it "social democracy".
powerrangerpl
Almost every other country in world has better labour laws than the USA do. Germany, Austria and Scandinavia are among the best.
ZackWester
heck even some actual third world countries have better.
mayorofdrixdale
Same in Germany.
MosesSupposesHisToesesAreRosesButMosesSupposesErroneously
You get six sick weeks in Germany from your employer. Assuming you're permanently employed.
CASchoeps
You get as much time as you need to heal. Your employer has to front six weeks of pay first, then insurance steps in. The employer can get..
Mualainen
And Finland (probably Scandinavia too).
HelpMeImSpiraling
Same in Singapore. It's actually illegal for your company to ask you to return to work while you are diagnosed sick by a doctor.
Chereazi
Austria
StevieTheAussie
Australia’s not *terrible*, but you get a limit to your sick leave.
MosesSupposesHisToesesAreRosesButMosesSupposesErroneously
And they have great remedial reading programmes
LuigiEyetalian
Throw another shrimp on the barbie!
LooseyGooseyBrett
I heard of a guy from there that was a major socialist
EmptyHouseBurglar
Is he dead now? Does he sign a mean deepfake with Stalin?
Pgoodso
Yeah, Schwarzenegger.
prosper020
And are they accepting American refugees?
youareagreatguybut
Czech republic too and yes.
Silverbananahorse
Please? I went to the doc for an ear infection. He said I have an ear infection and no joke, got $1000 bill later
InternetanonMD
Damn, that's a expensive way to tell you to buy cadiprim
BURYMEINDVOTES
and they want us to believe we are lucky,at least we’re not paying for someone else’s healthcare but we are but not for the ones who need it