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NanaBananaOG
A grenade does both
Comet260
Plasma or photon?
BeConsiderate
Notice how there's no link to any source with the photo. Don't believe everything you see, do your own research!
ByThePowerInjestedInMe
improperly worn a mask does nothing, this chart is a bit off
meskarune
its not hard to learn proper mask use.
AeonQuasars
Rifneno
Gotta be safe. Those things even filter your piss into clean drinking water (no srsly, FO lore is crazy)
SouperScott
That's not crazy at all, we can do that now you chungus.
Rifneno
We can filter it now, but I don't think we have suits that literally feed you your own piss from a moment ago, ya chucklefuck.
CeterumCenseo
Just because we haven't invented usable fusion power yet!
sassycephalopod
We all should wear masks because we're all disgusting
ChimiAndChilll
yaboy
My mask is my house.
Ltjohnmcclane
I think this post is incorrect. I have this mask, and this was from the manufacturer.
DrVetur
As a doctor, quit spreading this misinformation. Surgical masks DO protect the wearer from acquiring droplet-spread illnesses
DrVetur
SARS-COV-2 is thought to be primarily droplet-spread like influenza. Other than aerosolizing procedures, airborne spread remains uncertain
HolyCringeLordBatman
*THANK YOU*. I think the biggest confusion is coming from the study in which they forcibly aerosolized it to tests its staying power in air
T0go
Even the worst mask will prevent you from touching your mouth and nose, which is the main vector outside of close contact.
ByThePowerInjestedInMe
yeah this should be taken down not scientific.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Also easier to block where it comes out than all the ways it can get in. Basic masks for everyone all the time is THE MOST EFFECTIVE thing.
madjack3
I found some R95 masks in my garage. Turns out they're better than N95.
valvarsson
If the rona virus was made of oil sure.
ChimiAndChilll
Something is better than nothing, if you must leave your home.
blunte
A non n95 respirator CAN protect you if the number after the letter is 95or larger. All N means in not suitable for oil particles
HitandRyan
What about mine?
omuaomua
They explode if you step on them
FunkyHandsMcgee
Pick up that can
ToothpasteWorm
Protects you. Protects citizens on your block. Guarantees one non-mechanical reproduction simulation for every 100 sterilization tickets.
dakonsept
Wouldn't protect you from a crowbar...
SnarfyMcSnarferson
Does not protect yoy from crowbars
RightToJailNoTrial
Half-Life 2. Really good game
ThingsYouCantUnsee
I can hear this picture
Safebox36
Doesn't protect others from you, doesn't protect you from the Freeman.
FrostyRaptor
I think the only weakness is to rat bites.
UnstableProductions
You are good.
perchance2dream
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. So much misinformation being spread here.
squishybaker
Other masks may filter, but you can't be sure so you go the highest which is certain to, without any doubt.
squishybaker
#OP is pretty correct, vents are a no go if you're infected, as it's an unrestricted exit of particals.
georgejimmydoodle
If it's so dangerous, please give us the accurate information.
internetspaceshipsareseriousbusiness
And non N95 masks will work, N100, P95 and P100 Will work as as well or better, as the 100 stands for 99.95% particle filtration.
sendmeyourarmslikeliterallycutthemoffandsendthem
Well how about you share your knowledge rather than just saying he is wrong
GronxBacin
none of these masks will prevent a drop from landing in your eye
TrueNorthernLights
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html
WisconsinHome
Such as?
druidoblivious
Less than n95 mask still have some effectiveness, and there are also 100 rated P and S masks which fall into the category "non-n95"
WisconsinHome
Ok
SewerRanger
Yeah, came here to say I have a P100 mask - it's a non N95 but it actually filters more then an N95 mask - I use it for metal working.
TsunamiJohn
Homemade masks do help prevent you from getting it. Even if it's a 30% decrease in infection (last I heard) that would be huge
SaltedPretzelDog
They reduce the likelyhood but there is no claim they totally prevent that transmission path. CDC says"it may prevent the spread of virus"
WisconsinHome
Source?
TrueNorthernLights
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html
ImHereToGetDownvotes
"help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others" keeps you from spreading, not staying safe.
TrueNorthernLights
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24229526/
WisconsinHome
Thanks
ImHereToGetDownvotes
"significantly reduced the number of microorganisms expelled by volunteers" Expelled, not inhaled.
TrueNorthernLights
You do realize if viruses can't pass one way....they can't pass the other, right? It's not a one way mirror.
funnyguy10
Where’s the PAPR ?
AculaMD
Powered air purifying respirators protect you and others.
funnyguy10
Wrongo. It only protects you
funnyguy10
They don’t filter exhaled air
RackhamTheRed
Non of these masks filter exhaled air fully. PAPR does pretty much the same thing a surgical mask does (unless it's one with a vent)
BatmanOSX
Source : trust me dude. Plz dont get Covid-19 related information from memes.....
whydotheycometometodie
As long as we are all wearing a mask, whether it filters on inhale or on exhale, we are all better protected.
Zuluzero
WAIT... Couldn't you just put a homemade mask-ette over the vent of a vented n95/p95/p100?
meskarune
yes, you absolutely can.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Last one is wrong. My P100 respirators aren't N95, but are rated higher protection. Wearing them screams fuck you, I only care about myself.
SpidersInAHumanSuit
I think by non 95 respirators they mean respirators that are valued lower. P-100 and N-100 are the same filtering. P filters Oil particles.
isetprettygirlsonfire
P means it filter particles including oils, N filters particles but not oils. There are many carts for respirators. Acid gas or organic 1/
isetprettygirlsonfire
etc. aren't rated for particulates at all. Plus there are combo cartridges as well. That is why there is fit tests and training for respira
SpidersInAHumanSuit
Isn't that what i said? According to the CDC, p100's filter organic material like viruses just as well as n100 and other masks.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Sort of. I thought you meant p100 were only for oils.
zbobet2012
Yeah a p100 is _better_ than a N95 at protecting yourself. I've got three for woodworking and house work stuff (concrete/wood dust is bad).
BatmanOSX
This.
catsandcoke
What about the ones with the little filters that snap on?
isetprettygirlsonfire
Which ones?
Ltjohnmcclane
WisconsinHome
Amazon reviews aren’t great for Elipse
Ltjohnmcclane
Really? I really like it.
WisconsinHome
Ok take a look at the reviews
Ltjohnmcclane
Are we looking at the same one? It has 1659 reviews with 4.6 rating
isetprettygirlsonfire
I use those in welding shop, but not when I really need a respirator, I use the one I am fit tested for.
isetprettygirlsonfire
But the millers are a good mask that fits under my welding helmet and wear it all day several days a week.
PballQhead
Well, that's all I have, so I'm wearing it. Might try and rig a vacuum bag (also P100 rated) over the exhaust valve, Lord knows I got time.
IamNotAshamed
Vacuum bags can have fibre glass in them. Don't breathe that in
isetprettygirlsonfire
Doesn't bother me, I have p100 respirator too. Just put a cowboy style handkerchief over it all haha
Zuluzero
+1 that is my project for this afternoon.
PballQhead
I like that idea, will be doing!
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
Your lungs are going to get a workout
IAmTheBadW01f
At least exhaling is easier than inhaling in the first place
PballQhead
It can't be much harder than inhaling. Maybe just attach an extra cartridge over the valve
Philosopherott
This is misleading, p100 and other are a higher particulate barrier than N95
bippityboppitybuttsex
I accidentally bought a bunch of the N95 (no vent) masks a year ago for woodworking... weird
Lobuttomize
I bought a pack of 10 N95s that are also like fully certified for medical use or whatever like a year ago for random projects
Lobuttomize
Turns out it was actually a pack of 20.
Gilgamech
I accidentally bought a bunch of TP last September. Weird.
SpecialProjectY
Same thing, bought year ago a box 270 (9 sleeves x30 pack) for attic, basement and woodworking and barely started 1st pack. Gave half 1/2
SpecialProjectY
to the rest of my staff in hospital, will use mine for shopping, since I'm wearing a hazmat in morgue anyway... 2/2
operatingonempty
Dude same....just needed dust masks and those happened to be the only on the shelf.
bippityboppitybuttsex
For me it was what Woodcraft had... didn't think about it at the time and it turned out to be perfect for the apocalypse.
BlairT1
Carpenter here, to us the unvented ones aren’t as useful during work. The vent makes them so much more comfortable during a long work day
OtterlyMagnificent
I use the N95 respirator for painting...It's not as useful for multiple people, but it'll protect ME at least...
BlairT1
This is true. I’ll rock what I’ve got. Plus I’ve been basically home for 6 months, I feel low risk as a carrier
OtterlyMagnificent
I've got asthma, but I'm in the same 'basically home' state. Back injury, workers comp. Only things I go out to do is shop, fly my RC plane1
OtterlyMagnificent
and go to the shooting range.2/2
mrsdowneyjr
Ingot some for drywall in early February and Ive been feeling guilty ever since. I do get steamy in there
justsome
if you still have em you should donate em to your local ER
Ravben
Donate... and how much will he get charged his next ER visit? At least sell them at normal rate that he bought them for.
alsowhatsaderp
Wow. What an American comment.
StarkTangent
Your doctors and nurses dont set the rates you fucking moron
extraDimensionalAnxiety
Fuck you!
bippityboppitybuttsex
I have a box of 20... and the ER won't take them after I opened the box.
Iamnotawildturkey
They might now....
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
Individual nurses will. Make a nurse friend.
justsome
good on ya for trying
HedonistBeard
Hate to say it, but a box of 20 isn't going to make a huge difference to them but it might to you if/when this gets worse.
datnish
Wait, the non 95 respirator protects just as good as a homemade freaking mask come on now.
datnish
purpose of a homemade mask is so you don’t touch your nose and mouth with your grubby ass hands. A respirator provides same cover.
obelisp
It's so you don't spit and spew all up in the air
datnish
Yup and all I’m saying is a respirator would help avoid that as well.
RackhamTheRed
The purpose of a home made mask is that you don't spread droplets left and right. And it's perfectly capable of doing so if made proper
datnish
Correct
isetprettygirlsonfire
Depends on the cartridge you put on it. A P100 is better than N95, but acid gas cartridge may not be better than cloth.
Will0099
Is An acid molecule is way smaller than a virus ?
isetprettygirlsonfire
Other cartridges work via chemical means not filtration. My organic vapor cartridges work great on farts, but filters don't.
Will0099
Ah. Ok. Makes sense.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Spent too much time with coworkers in work trucks haha. And any respirator isn't effective without proper fit.
PballQhead
Most gas/vapor carts are also P100, I think they just pack the neutralizing chemicals into filter material packs
isetprettygirlsonfire
No, there are combo masks, but not all are P100. Usually the filter is attached outside. See here, pink part on the combos are the filter.
isetprettygirlsonfire
https://www.respiratormaskprotection.com/Respirator-Cartridge-Filter-Reference-Chart.php
PballQhead
Right, I have a 3M 6300 that I scored some plain P100s for. Not all combo carts are P100, no, but it seems like more are than aren't.
isetprettygirlsonfire
I meant not all carts are combos. Depends on what you buy. Making assumptions can be deadly.
jibbstree
homemade masks are shown to reduce your chance my 50% https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/today-explained/id1346207297?i=1000470455696
drosophilamelanogaster
Podcasts aren't real sources...
tiikuri
That would depend on the podcast.
BurnieCinders
Good thing we've got imgur to go by then.
ongabonga
note that n95 are ffp2. ffp3 are much better, but hard to breathe, and ffp1 don't help much
ongabonga
also, if you only have n95 with vent slap a surgical on to protect others a bit more by keeping the exhale closer to you
valvarsson
Fpp1 does filter large particles like bees so if you are in a beeie area it’s a good choice.
ongabonga
it'd bee both beeautiful and terrifying to have bees stuck all over your mask
NachomanDandyCabbage
Probably a stupid question, can breathing through your nose (help) keep you from infecting others?
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
Breathing in/out through your nose is def a first line of natural defense (thanks mucus and hairs!) But similar to calluses protecting your>
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
feet from getting cut by sharp objects there's a reason we invented masks.
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
and shoes.
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
Sorry I metaphored and forgot to get out of it. Either way: Human body good at things. Human brain creates tools to be better at things.
nosaucesbutapplesauces
I breath through my nose in the grocery store even though it probably doesnt help. I find myself holding my breath if someone gets close too
IWishIHadASoul
No
SlackerTactical
Might be worse. We connect nasopharyngeal swabs because that's where the highest concentration of virus is
Silverforte
Unless you're sick or have a condition, why would you not already breathe through your nose?
PatriotTD365
No
Arcian
It's not a stupid question if you learn something from the answer.
PatriotTD365
No.
BizzarJuggalo
No, but I've heard that wearing a condom over your head can offer the best protection.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Chances are good that none of the people answering you have any idea what they’re talking about here.
catdrchris
If you stay at home or 12 feet from everyone all the time, yes.
stupidusernamething
Yes it does, and it helps keep you from getting infected. Nose hairs are a biological filter.
BlondJani
Not a stupid question at all. Good for you to ask, but no, that won’t help. Be well!
blzrdphoto
It’s ever so slightly possible but not a whole lot. The virus resides in the lungs not in the mouth. Nose hairs may capture a tiny amount.
iliketotellabsurdconspiracies
I think there could be a small reduction in spit that people do not detect leaving their mouth. But people are inconsistent
LurkerOfDarkness
Indeed, a small reduction, but as there appears to be a link between how much you were exposed to and the severity, it might let a few 1/2
LurkerOfDarkness
People get through it easier. So a tiny but non-zero effect. 2/2
iliketotellabsurdconspiracies
As I said to the Mrs, I’ll take my tiny win
mangogangsta
Godman thats such a nice way to answer.
manbearpiglet2
Anyone know if a 3m 6001 respirator is useless?
BlondJani
Should also note that based on your user name, the nose method would be questionable ?
Gribblecillin
What if I plugged my nose with n95 filters and duck taped my mouth shut?
Froth06
Use flex tape to be sure its shut tight
TheSacret
You’ll be all safe for the rest of your life ?
6ft1DickC
Then most likely yes, since you'll probably suffocate and die
RaskasaSubwoofer
But you won't get the virus ;)
6ft1DickC
Exactly what I was saying
guvnaar
MCNewYorkLives
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SeanQuixote
Virii?
NachomanDandyCabbage
I figured *sighs 6 feet away*
DarkSock
That is why I only inhale...
MintMission
If you are shedding particles when breathing, surgical or home made masks won't keep the virus in, it's too small. What these marks help 1/2
MintMission
with is preventing droplets from traveling through the air. 2/2
Pphunk77
Only if you stick wide cigarette filters in your nostrils.
sempiesalty
Imagine if the cig industry helps save lives.
Mithi
So, a Fremen stillsuit will do?
muggywaters
Yes, but will your water be contaminated upon reclamation?
pancakesplz
if you want to drink your own piss & sweat, then yes, otherwise, no.
myquietfantasy
The best place to store water is in the body.
pancakesplz
I mean ... bottles work.
ninerninny
Please note that homemade masks don’t actually offer any kind of substantial protection and should only be used when social distancing 1/
meskarune
This is false. https://smartairfil">-virus/">https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/ https://youtu.be/DZBbkn-g-vE
elGuapo4211
?
meskarune
Basically pick the right material and a tight fitting pattern and it will give you protection from infection and protect others from you.
meskarune
You can use medical tape on the edges to make it more effective.
ninerninny
Isn’t possible. Also for them to be effective at all you must wash them after every use and you cannot touch the fronts of them at all. 2/
meskarune
Many studies have shown diy cloth masks will help prevent infection spread and that even a simple tshirt blocks 76% of infectious mater.
valvarsson
Simple, the cs go player?
meskarune
Note that 76% is much higher than 0% and viral load matters in terms of getting infected.
TinyGreenMenNinjaClan
How does holding your T-shirt over your nose fair out?
OoEeOoAaAa
About as good as a homemade mask. Better than nothing.
meskarune
It actually helps a lot https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/
puzzledink
Sorry to ask this but how does an asymptomatic patient spread it if he isn't coughing ..etc ..by talking or also breathing normally too?
PatriotTD365
Droplet spread.
5NoteHalf
Breathing. You simply exhale, and out comes virus.
meskarune
It spreads just breathing normally which is why everyone needs to wear masks.
puzzledink
I see,thanks. for a while I read that it only spreads through droplets so I thought only by coughing...etc but I guess it's not that simple
WisconsinHome
Newest info is saying breathing spreads it too