veronicablood
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FCK YOU. None of this is for the benefit of the consumer. Never, ever, fuching ever are ou getting my biometrics, corporate assholdes.
Jun 29, 2026 7:54 PM
veronicablood
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FCK YOU. None of this is for the benefit of the consumer. Never, ever, fuching ever are ou getting my biometrics, corporate assholdes.
djhash
They get the public side of the keys. You keep the fingerprint, and a private key. Think of it like, using the fingerprint to unlock your phone's password manager, then sending in the password to the website all in one.
Sorrontis
biometrics are more valuable than anything else. Fuck anyone that ask for them.
veronicablood
the downvotes on your comment are proof that AI has accounts on imgur.
abmoraz
Not a bot. Just someone that understands what passkeys are and how they differ from biometrics. I use passkeys for several accounts. I don't use fingerprints, face unlock, or any other biometrics. They are 2 separate things that you seem to have conflated. You can use one without the other
AdmiralButtStuff
No, we just know how biometric keys are stored, also you can buy a USB passkey that will definitely work with that. It says, "like your fingerprint or face," not that it has to be your fingerprint or face. I have one I use for my computer, email, and several other things.
asucks
They don’t get your finger print, they get a passkey. Your device has the fingerprint, which hands over the passkey.
Sorrontis
True. Now, quick question. Are you in full control of your device (usually a cellphone)? Do you trust that specific company with your biometric data? I don't. Biometrics and DNA - valuable beyond anything else.
asucks
I’m not giving my phone my DNA to unlock my passkeys, it’s scanning my face. My face gets scanned every time I’m in public. I trust open source passkey more than I trust myself to remember and write down and implement my own passwords on paper. It’s okay to be skeptical, but be skeptical and understand what’s really going on. DNA and actual biometric data isn’t going in my device. It’s a face scan, something that happens hundreds of thousands of times when I step into a Walmart.
ilhares
For what it's worth, my device doesn't get my fingerprints, either. While I've none to hide, cops will have to beat that PIN code outta me.
asucks
Your biometric data is stored locally on your phone as encrypted math, not as a readable fingerprint or face scan. Third party apps/passwords never see this data, just that you’ve okayed the passkey. It’s significantly more secure than a password, especially if you’re using randomized passwords. You do you, though.
ilhares
My point was more about making life difficult for law enforcement, since they're allowed to use your biometrics to unlock devices, but can't compel you to give up passwords.
AdmiralButtStuff
You can probably go on Temu and buy a device that'll crack your PIN in less time than it would take you to hook everything up. In terms of security your device from bad actors, assuming they have your device, your biometrics are the safer choice.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
In worst case scenarios, perhaps. But in present day it is simple - police are legally allowed to compel you to unlock your phone with biometrics, but they cannot force you to enter a password/code. It's just that simple.
AdmiralButtStuff
2/2 From a security standpoint: it takes a few seconds to crack a PIN with a device. Biometrics are stored as hashes that could take centuries to crack, and that's assuming your phone doesn't already have a builtin backdoor for law enforcement. A lot do.
AdmiralButtStuff
It's not that simple, sadly. Where I live, they cannot compel you to do anything without a warrant, and no case law has been established that the police can make you give them your PIN/biometrics even with one; especially true for biometrics since they're arguably protected by other Civil Rights. It has not been litigated in the state yet, so no judge has ruled on it.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Alphanumeric Passcodes & Patterns: Passcodes and swipe patterns are considered "testimonial" because they require you to reveal knowledge in your mind. Courts generally agree that you cannot be forced to hand over a password due to your Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Fingerprints & Face ID: Biometrics are typically viewed as physical evidence (like providing a fingerprint or DNA) rather than testimonial. Several courts have ruled that police can force you to unlock your device using your face or thumb. In some jurisdictions, officers are even permitted to physically press your finger against the sensor.