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tangybreath
I'm so tired. I feel like every month I have to vote for this fucking shit.
5aminsd
Who the duck downvotes this?!
theyar
People who understand the issue isn't so cut and dry as you've been told.
savanik
How much money does it take to buy one more vote? Can we start a GoFundMe or something?
blurb
Hard to imagine the amount of money we could pool together would outweigh what the telecoms would counter with.
Zreen
If Congress isn't doing shit about guns, what makes you think they'll do shit about the Internet?
HitlersArtCritic
Votes and money.
YarTheBug
Senators called. Left messages
SunAnvil
I've sent 6 emails to my senators over the past months asking to protect NN plus congressmen. Sadly, Kentucky is a no go for help.
izoli413365
Kansas says they jerk off to the thought of net neutrality being gone.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
Your job then is to vote them out and do your best to convince others. Hold their vote as an example of their corruption
DontTouchMyDrumset
Mitch McConnell is a heaping bag of trash. He knows nothing of the internet.
HydrochloricKitten
Same with Texas, I'm sad to say.
Enoan
I’ve been seeing some “of you want Verizon networks to actually work, you need an Apple phone” ads. Since Verizon is the only ISP where I
Enoan
Live, this is simply an absolute monopoly, comparable to the railroads making exclusive deals with Standard Oil.
yams4lunch
Dude, I have the same Verizon monopoly where I live. Depending on your line of work, it's practically a necessity to have a working phone.
orp0piru
modicumjones
I realize this is a Battle For The Net initiative, but a pitching a text update system initiated by a text is gonna raise eyebrows
evanFFTF
Info on the online protest planned on Feb 27 to stop this: https://www.battleforthenet.com/onemorevote
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GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
For the lazy.
gamecreator
CasuallyDoubleDippingWithSuspiciouslySimilarUserName :P
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
I didn't notice their name, but I can assure you, I'm one of a kind. Except for https://imgur.com/user/CasualBorderlandsAddict
Boondangle40
I want to participate but is this legit? Sorry, it's the Internet and I don't trust squat.
Ilovepoopinglikealot
Signed! Let's pass this on!
pandorasshitbox
Is there anything I can do as a Canadian and will this effect me at all? Even if it does not I’d like to help my fellow interwebbers!
tReasonoustRump
This needs more upvotes.
FriskySour
Interesting that the list of supporting websites includes Imgur, but not Reddit...
pajamallamadrama
I'm with you on this fight but so help me if I get a million push notifications during work hours I will lose my ever loving mind. I use >
pajamallamadrama
Pandora to concentrate on my work seeing as I'm highly adhd & OCD and I don't need it muting my music all day. I'm sure there's a better way
ADisturbinglyAttractiveCactus
PSA: After you text that number, the "person" on the other end will start asking you for personal information.
DoggoUBandit
I’ll just go with my go to “Farts McCool”
LuffyFett
McLovin
modicumjones
i think its supposed to be a frontend to https://www.battleforthenet.com/onemorevote/ but someone didnt think through the PR implication heh
QISGOD1
yea i shared the link for awareness but I'm not giving "Evan" my personal info I'll contact my rep another way.
EvilAbdy
It's safe. It's so they can send the letter you create via text to your correct rep. You'd have to give that info if you called your rep
Halvinator
I'm not sure I want Evan to have my full name and number... but I can write a letter to congress all the same. I did it before.
Halvinator
Got a shitty reply from my congressman.. but I'll do it again.
Crobbie22
Yeah mine told me they supported the FCC to repeal Net Neutrality.
Gayforbae
Mines used some very fancy words to tell me how much of an idiot I was for not supporting the FCC...
Halvinator
Same here. Copy pasted message to everyone else I know. Fucker.
z3lfmoord
Is that what the majority of your state wants? If not, then you have a shit senator.
kambojah
or a bought one (by lobbyists from companies trying to fight NN)
z3lfmoord
*congressman
MizzFortune
Done :)
unidentifiableusername
Well let's see.....govt run internet, or companies that advise the govt in how to run the internet....FCC you say....Tesla is laughing I say
tmot
I know I might be a little paranoid but is there another way to support this without giving my address over a text? I realize this is how th
HeyOP
Have you considered writing your representatives? I don't think you should feel at all silly about not wanting to text personal information.
tmot
Ings are done but I'm a little anxious about giving my address to someone over text. This is legit right?
blurb
They're trying to identify your Congressional representatives for you, to make it easier for you to contact them.
blurb
You can go here instead of texting, or just look up your reps yourself and contact them. https://www.battleforthenet.com/onemorevote/
Sandpussy
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Savannahdad1970
Done, super easy and cool.
Draykun
Well, both my Senators are Democrat so.
Terrapin2190
Corruption at it's finest.
MightyIink
This is pointless, we had so many petitions with so many signatures last time and it did nothing, no point in fighting an impossible battle.
philke5
The process https://www.federalregister.gov/reader-aids/office-of-the-federal-register-blog/2015/03/when-does-this-rule-go-into-effect
FlyingDorito
Texting is fine and all, but as where this has been going, all you idiots need to go out and protest if you really want to stop this shit.
FlyingDorito
or good bye Net Neutrality... It's going to be a sad fucking day.
WhereArtThouMyTesticles
Download all your porn NOW.
PoIluticorn
What does texting mission to that number do?
AnAnarchoSyndicalistCommune
"That’s why we’re launching Operation: #OneMoreVote, an Internet-wide day of action on February 27 to flood the Senate with emails and ...
AnAnarchoSyndicalistCommune
... phone calls to drown out the lobbyists and give Ajit Pai the worst day of his corrupt political career. Will you join? ...
AnAnarchoSyndicalistCommune
... Text MISSION to 384-387 and we’ll walk you through joining step by step."
AnAnarchoSyndicalistCommune
or just go to https://www.battleforthenet.com/onemorevote/
CatDaddyx1000
Cat facts
PMyourDrawings
My thoughts exactly
TheMerryScandinavian
Cyanide's gorilla facts
bernlack
Chances are that its gonna charge you a buck or two.
Criscartersfallguys
Know what pisses me off? I still don’t know for sure if NN is good or not. Everything’s paid advertising and sponsored content now.
theyar
Net neutrality is a decent concept, but you are right to be skeptical. There have been two major "grassroots" battles over the issue, 1/?
theyar
the first of which just so happened to coincide with Netflix trying to ditch their CDN relationships, and the second just so happening 2/?
theyar
to coincide with Google launching YouTube TV. This is primarily content providers wanting their customers to hate and vote against 3/?
theyar
consumer ISPs, to give them an edge in negotiations over the direct usage of their networks. 4/4
Rexli78
From what I can tell Net Neutrality basically prevents an ISP from using the monopolies they've created from forcing websites and streaming
Rexli78
services from having to pay an arm and a leg for their users to use them. It also prevents ISPs from blocking websites that feature
Rexli78
political content they disagree with. It would also prevent them from striking up deals to favor certain websites over others. Sort of like
Rexli78
how the railroads conspired with JD Rockefeller to give massive discounts to Standard Oil and Standard Oil alone. The Railroading analogy
Rexli78
works really well in this case because one could argue that's essentially what an ISP is; a railroad for the internet.
az87
I'm not even from USA but I fully support the people.. +1
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DJDogBreath69
(Half) American in the USA here. Thank you for your help, it counts!
BobHasselhoff
I'm not even from USA either, but, in my country we love to do things they do, the government of Brazil love use USA how a parameter 1/2
BobHasselhoff
we never do the same, that is why nothing work here, well, it's a piece of shit, but, I still love this place 2/2
BobHasselhoff
And that's is why I need you guys win that shit, cuz my country will do the same in one month or less if you lose
jennym123
Weird request: Don't vote or sign on anything online. Foreign IP addresses have caused petitions to get thrown out.
Terrapin2190
Oh that's just great. Government loopholes. For the government!
Muzzah27
Also not from USA, but this cannot stand!
KingPinga
I'm with you I'm in nz and I'm standing up to
pigs3different1s
Correct, +1 is the country code for the United States
TapToRetry
Get over here ya bahstard!
rezzy97
Then I support you sir
Psythir
Repeal of net neutrality will spread into other countries. All it takes is one catalyst.
Terminology
Not true in all cases. Many countries have strong net neutrality safeguards and have only doubled down after the FCC vote.
TheBlackWindHowls
Maybe, but there will always be countries watching what Trump does and being like, "Okay, Trump did this, so we need to do the opposite."
TheBlackWindHowls
He's basically the guide to what not to do.
nimbusfool
I mean we let outsiders in to presidential elections, why not this one too? I'm mailing you an eagle and 500 rounds of freedom!
CatOnTheRoof
Oh, cool, so we can load the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT and fly it around with the eagle. :-)
goatpower
Funny how you consider yourself "the land of the free" when your democracy index actually is kinda low for western countries
conservativenightmare24
This coming from a guy who lives in a country that does not guarantee free speech or the right to own land. Go drink some tea and get fucked
goatpower
"Not having freedom of speech" and still being being above you seems like a lost from your side
conservativenightmare24
Above me? You will never be above me son
Battlesoldier8618
Yea mail me some freedom to! And tell me where i have to bring that freedom!
meeewww
rounds of freedom
sundaymondayhippyday
snotcaulk
Yea--wait, do you mean Russians or Mexicans? I need to know whether to agree with you or hate you.
TheStressedOutLamma
He’s obviously talking about the Russians -.-
Hypothesist
¡Libera internet!
conservativenightmare24
Mexicans of course, why do you think Dems in California fight so hard to give illegal aliens the right to vote?
sundaymondayhippyday
Ltrain5
Canadians
BlackMemeQueen
Ha trick answer nobody would immigrate to america from canada
ChocolateDementia
Judging by all the Canadians driving in South Carolina, 3 week vacation is fine though.
sundaymondayhippyday
tReasonoustRump
People didn’t want to repeal NN. Russia Bots stole peoples info to support the repeal of NN and wrote comments in their name Evenstole Obama
chromofoam
So they’re essentially going to ignore the public and go off lobby group opinions. That’s not democracy.
tReasonoustRump
https://www.wired.com/story/bots-form-letters-humans-fcc-net-neutrality-comments/
tReasonoustRump
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/14/570262688/as-fcc-prepares-net-neutrality-vote-study-finds-millions-of-fake-comments
lickituplazyboy
If you look at OP's history it is you 100% dedicated to this. This might be relevant
tReasonoustRump
@Sarah should give @OP an award for all their hard work
ljkhiuh
I think it's reasonable to upvote this at this point, I know NN posts were bad for a bit, but I like my free porn and memes, godspeed @OP +1
mydickandballs
Rule be damned. Upvote.
DrewBerg
Rule? What rule?
alwaysupvotedachshunds
So....uh, why were the NN posts bad for a bit? It’s so hard to keep on top of everything!
VampireAssassin
For me they were bad because they were overwhelming and everywhere
Possefarm
Thanks, Hitler!
PhilanthropicMisanthrope
YES! FOR PORN'S SAKE, UPVOTE!
paradoxagon
"now that its the last second i guess we should complain" because it was a bad idea to get word out about this when we could do something
geiokami
Porn and memes have never been free though...
BananaLover93
especially memes. and porn
theyar
This has absolutely nothing to do with free porn and memes.
CometLaHal
this has literally everything to do with free porn and memes! internet speed is essential!
theyar
This has nothing to do with Internet speed.
senorsamuel
Instead of posting a very vague comment mind telling us what you mean by that?
theyar
That's not how logic works. You have to support your ignorant claims.
RenegadeTQ
Nothing is going to get censored, they're just passing it back to the FTC instead of the FCC, same as the decades prior to 2015.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
You mean the literally one decade where the internet began to rapidly take over out lives?
RenegadeTQ
You must be young and not remember so I'll forgive your naivety. The "world wide web" came out in 1990. I had the Compaq Presario 5510 that
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
And if you want to pretend that the internet of the 90s and the internet of the past few years are in any way equivalent theres nothing I
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
can do for you.
RenegadeTQ
came out in '98 and internet was already mainstream by then. Regardless, the FTC still prosecutes monopolistic practices, so no worries. 2/2
Omegilla
Still terrible. As bad as people thinking Hillary can still be president. Let the downvotes flow, as I oppose net neutrality.
CanPake
OtherPeoplesNamesGetMePoints
Downvoted until you post a reason you dislike it. Nothing worse than those who post an unpopular opinion like this with no reasoning.
occelcon155
Yikes
ClusterConsultant
May I ask why you oppose net neutrality?
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ClusterConsultant
Yeah but the new ruling specifically bans states from forming their own net neutrality.
streptovsky
Probably because he's a fucking idiot or a ceo of an ISP
ClusterConsultant
Or misinformed.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Not an excuse. Never an excuse anymore.
ThePurplePlatypus2
Legitimate question: Has anyone actually seen a substantial change since the repeal?
alanrails
They know the legal rules too, they'd be smart to wait until after the CRA timeline has passed
BRex91
I don't believe it's fully taken effect yet. Takes time to make changes.
philke5
Hasn't gone into effect yet, once it's published it'll go into effect in 60 days
ThePurplePlatypus2
Just for clarification, I have not
whydontwelookatsomedatainsteadofarguing
I'm more concerned with the new websites we won't see--ones that can't compete because the ISPs charge them money to get more bandwidth.
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Notice how cell companies are aligning with content providers? It’s insidious already.
boopmonger
Literally nothing changed. We had 30+ years without it....
Uniqueusername77
During that time, the technology to make use of said information *didn't exist* in a effective enough form to be useful at all.
SailTheWaves
No, throttling is and has always been allowed for network health. Beyond the scaremongering propaganda, no one can cite any real examples.
theyar
Also, most people don't realize how major Internet services are actually delivered via CDNs and such. Throttling and NN don't apply.
RenegadeTQ
You poor soul. See you in downvote hell where the realists go to die.
SailTheWaves
Other things, such as throttling competitors, etc are illegal under other laws and have nothing to do with NN.
hereforcatz
Thank you for having a damn brain
hereforcatz
See you in downvote hell you motherfuckers!
HitlerHoleThumbBunker
No, nothing will change. People are all up in arms because someone told them to be.
PirateOne
Certain mega-isp’s are spending a lot of money to change the law. Do you think they don’t have plans?
theyar
They're mainly fighting a PR battle with mega-content shops. Netflix and Google want network access and resources for free.
DoctorDerpper
Weird, I thought they pay for access just like every company does. If anything they add value to ISP's offerings.
theyar
Netflix wanted to stop paying for access. That's what started this a few years ago.
theyar
The repeal only repealed a law that had been in place for like 18 months. The first 20 years of the Internet didn't have it.
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OverlordEd
Thats just comcast, they’d have done that regardless
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PirateOne
There were significant changes in 2013 & 2014, which is why something which had previously been an unspoken rule became a law.
tpanyS
I think netflix would definitely disagree with you on there being "no substantial" change".
tpanyS
You mean other than ISP's no longer being allowed to legally throttle individual services or make netflix pay them for 'premium' lines?
HonestlyNotARobot
Except that ISPs still did those things.
tpanyS
The only one that really did it was comcast, and they paid for it (it's believed the TW+Comcast merger was largely shot down because (1/?)
tpanyS
of the ongoing FCC complaint by netflix claiming net neutrality violations), as well as was basically pushed into working -with- (2/?)
TylersSenseOfEnnui
And on related news, murder should be legal now because people did it anyways.
HonestlyNotARobot
On related news, comparing an ineffective piece of legislation on ISPs to legalizing murder is silly
IAmDoneUS
Nothing was wrong with the Internet before 2014-15 NN has everything to do with Government control. Do you like their controlled Healthcare?
newsguycraigevans
Fuck you, you Russian cunt
Dreigiau
US healthcare as a whole is a shitshow. probably not your best example for an argument that's already an almost impossible sell.
johnwohl
Also I can hate bullshit for-profit heathcare and love a neutral internet at the same time and my brain won't shit itself, thank you.
johnwohl
2/2 with the internet. They started doing the shit they want to make legal now, and someone with an human soul said no, you can't do that.
johnwohl
You complete and total fuckwit. The entire reason for net neutrality law to exist in the first place was because there was something 1/2
lincolnlawyer
There's not going to be much change. The companies that were throttling were already doing it, the others aren't going to start.
theyar
There's only one, maybe two recorded cases of throttling ever.
blurb
You think if theft were suddenly legalized, there wouldn't be people out there who would start stealing who didn't before?
Comet260
I hope you're right.
lincolnlawyer
Pretty sure everyone's freaking out about nothing. The only bad effect would if ALL ISPs started screwing ppl 1/2
lincolnlawyer
And while that's not out of the question, there's too much competition. The real culprits are cellphone companies, who're already doing it.
blurb
There's actually very little competition amongst ISP's. The majority of Americans have only 2 or 3 choices. Some have only 1.
lifeisahobby
Oh god people just have Al Gore build a new internet for fucks sake and stop with this NN bull shit
Velocirapture7
I laughed alittle. Im not why people think youre serious at all.
Counterfit
Because there's no shortage of people who actually believe this shit
Warune
Yeah we need to get back to distracting un important crap like what color berry the kardashians like
fantasticmemesandwheretofindthem
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lifeisahobby
Sorry maybe I’m old but I can’t remember how bad the internet was before 2015 is all<\sarcasm> I used the appropriate tag this time
Velocirapture7
And inconvenient truth indeed
Velocirapture7
Im pretty sure it was a joke, relax.
evilgriff
/s, you forgot the /s
Fuckyouidontcaregofuckyourself
Yeah imgur is getting worse and worse and recognizing sarcasm.
Jusmar
Poe's law
zippydee
I'm not sure what's worse, anti-net neutrality or having to give up all your personal data to watch porn.
bpetersen
All personal data? ..what information are you inputting to watch porn?
liquidCrush
The U.K. Is enacting a law requiring proof of age with personal info
Gayforbae
How else are kids gonna get sex Ed? Edpecially gay sex Ed...
Cheomesh
wat
override367
just watch porn on a VM'd OS with spoofed MAC over TOR and connect to across 6 vpns
JHawke
May also want to reverse polarity on that one.
RobertNAdams
Shit, I'll post up my home address if the ass is fat enough, just sayin'.
JohannVonTittySprinkles
I for one I'm going to start watching the most horrendous and fringe porn that I can find if this passes. Enjoy my browsing history fuckers
Gayforbae
Been there done that, got elbow deep in a guy...
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
Going to start? I already am
Tunisia
Right-wing twats pushing their regressive agenda across the West.
DasOgre
I’m a liberal, but I have to call out this BS. Over 50% of people on both sides favor NN
Tunisia
Republican voters either knew what they were voting for, or didn't. I don't know which is worse.
CidEquinox
But they hate sharia law!
Cheomesh
I propose we institute Canon Law, and also kick out all those Heretical Protestants while we're at it!
BARRIIICADEtv
She's my favorite adult actress!
Comet260
*Only ISLAMIC Sharia law. They are perfectly fine with the Christian version.
JoeClassico
A majority of right-winger voters are against it though... that was part of the FCC's "Right vs. Left issue" propaganda, when in reality 1/2
ArdentSlacker
It's a "we need to get the republicans out because they aren't even listening to their base anymore"
ArdentSlacker
And fix all the gerrymandering and voter suppression... and break the 2-party system and... like, have the judicial system affect the top...
JoeClassico
it's a "We the People vs. Those Asshats at the FCC" 2/2
CoBr2
And the Republican President/congress that selected these asshats specifically to remove NN. Like I get it’s not your defining issue, but
CoBr2
even if you really want to vote Republican, there are Pro-NN options if y’all voted in primaries. They don’t make it to congress though.
Cheomesh
A majority of right-wing votes were against Net Neutrality, you say?
JoeClassico
My grandfather has been a republican voting NRA member for 51 years and thought repealing NN was ridiculous.
lvcoug
He didn’t word it super clearly. He was trying to say that the majority of right-wings (general pop) are against repealing NN