Jun 3, 2022 3:48 PM
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CoarseAndSalty
That reminds me I need to get a new Card before shit goes crazy again.
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hajimedj
skipweasel
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PurifiedInTheWatersOfLakeMinnetonka
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
AntRam95
Dunothar
You fucking deserve it. Fuck those scumbags!
SLCtechie
Shaodyn
How sad. A piece of human garbage is no longer able to make obscene profits by selling something for dozens of times its value.
magister333350
Dude should feel lucky. A quartet of scalpers got beaten so badly all four were in the hospital for a while. Their two BMW's were torched. +
None of their supply taken. And no witnesses despite a very full parking lot at Best Buy. And BB's cameras conveniently "failed". Cops +
never caught anyone, nor were all that interested. Someone tried to gin up sympathy for them locally and got promptly & rightfully shit on.
SarahTheEverlame
Ah yes, the tragic tale of "Fuck those fucking guys."
TheobromineAddict
I just paid $500 extra for a new PC because of the over-inflated cost of the GPU component. I say fuck this guy.
kongfuchicken
Just? As in like within the past month? I've seen a lot of gpus selling under msrp, even low end models.
LucidPariah
Bought an Rtx 3060ti last month and my Skyrim has never looked better!
NervAssEva
Yep same. Fuck people that did this shit
MaximusPrime4444
Good, now hopefully PS5 will follow suit
HashMaster9k
thedorkitect
GPU pricing is not normal. They are still inflated by far.
smashpro1
On average, Nvidia cards are now only 6% above MSRP, and AMD's are only 2% above.
dart223
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Good.
MrAdamArce
Get fucked. Hope all of it burns so he actually loses everything
MadCat221
SpeedyCerviche
Some people think this is actually a legitimate business and not just legalised scamming. May as well trick old people into insurance.
boobsalot
Or trick young people in using stupid apps that mine their data.
AscensionGames
Funny thing, it is actually illegal lots of places to do this for concert, theatre, or sports tickets but it's somehow fine for other things
tcpolecat7
Well... This is basically how the stock market works globally...
Akurei00
You obviously know NOTHING about the stock market! /s
Xenarion
It's only a legitimate business if you sell where it's not available, and at a reasonable price. Like Japanese exporters.
EdWinchester
Perfectly legal but a right twat move.
PiggyWobbles
it is a "legitimate business" in the same way buying up all the water bottles in anticipation of a hurricane is. Still dirtbag moves
nastynate666
Yeah but if you try to sell that back at any kind of inflated price they'll come the fuck down on you. They don't fuck around with that
yeah... i mean kind of. We let people do it with sanitary wipes in the pandemic as an example
QuartzPoker
You are right, but so is the other person. They didn't apply the laws re: disaster exploitation to COVID until months after it started.
I've never seen the law come down faster than the scalpers in a hurricane, happens every single hurricane too sadly
Fyremusik
a toilet paper hoarder/scalper in my area learned that lesson back in march 2020.
LincLoud
GamerDad82
Of this is true it warms my heart!
MattyMakes
Poor Baby // Into the pity you go!
Maitrify
Have graphic cards returned to MSRP yet?
BeanTootsAreBest
GPU prices are returning to normal? Still seem unnecessarily high and low availability
lsybarra
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/new/
liriodelagua
Same thought. I call bullshit.
CrestKnight
4 year ago mid tier card 200$, current midtier card 375$. (from manufacturer) with no lesser budget option.
OverpricedCrayon
It’s slightly easier to find them through retailers, but still no where close to normal or what it should be.
becausewhynotchoosethisrandomname
Just came from Mico Center yesterday. There was a surprising amount of RTX's available.
JasonThorn
I splurged on a 12 GB RTX 3070 for $1100 last year. Now the same one is almost half the price now. No sympathy for the devil.
SheepySleepySmuggler
Most are returning to at or near MSRP - still more expensive than pre-COVID but I suspect that will remain for a few more years...
Dukenukemx
I give it until the end of 2022. Bitcoin's value is dropping and so will other crypto currencies.
Bitcoin hasn't used GPU mining in years, and Ethereum will stop using them, soon.
parrais
Where can I find a new 3060 Ti in the UK at or near the UK MSRP of £369?
Ok, didn't realise the 3060Ti was supposed to be so low - I went the AMD route with a 6700xt for £490 and was surprised to see 3060Ti at 600
I can understand your reasons for wanting the nVidia card but I suspect those prices will come down fast over summer based on...
...mVidias own statements about pricing
cpcgamer
Make no mistake, he hasn't lost any money, he's just making less of a profit.
Targe0
Unless they bought them off another scalper hoping to sell them for even more. That would be away to lose money.
LordHosk
Or they made a deal with a retail store manager to buy pallets out the back door "Ill pay you 10 or 15% in cash plus pay the store the MSRP"
parkway
It was from a tiktok, guy with a bunch of unboxed gpus. Pretty much just some RMA center, and he was fishing for Likes.
BronkLuonk
you can't know that unless you know the price he bought them at and the current market price
JackSandwich
Economic loss over accounting loss (if I remember my High school economics)
zanaria
No if he bought them at a high price intending to sell them higher and they dropped down then he did lose money
94theBest
depends on when he bought. Might've actually lost money
FetteredJuvenescence
He may well have actually lost money. But he deserved it.
Corrodias
Oh, I don't know about that. You don't get a warranty on secondhand purchases, so I'm not paying full price for one of those. Discount it.
DungeonMaster69
Prices inflate, he buys them for 1000/piece hoping to sell for 1300. Prices drop to original 700 so he can't even get his own money back?
Its possible he purchased them at a bulk premium out the back door, assuming he could scalp them for even more. so it is a loss.
keykilla
I mean, if he purchased them at high price points and they've now dipped, he has lost money, because he will net negative on the resell.
rumpleforeskinforthewin
The “lost” money was probably the potential profit he thought he was going to make. That’s my thought process anyways.
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TomBrokaw
I don't know about you, but I'm not buying a card on ebay/craigslist/etc for MSRP, receipt or not
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Cut me a deal. Give me a reason to buy from you instead of somewhere I can get a warranty and shit.
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
Yes, it's lost potential it's not actually lost.
I get that, but the scalper says they lost $23k which would imply they lost $23k that they did at one time have. Kind of misleading.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
It's called opportunity cost
mirrorz
Same thing corporations do when they report a "loss" to justify their price increases. They never lose anything.
Tyanet
Yep. The only ‘loss’ is that of greater potential gains.
Dalael
This guy who wasnt gonna by our product just downloaded it illegally. We lost money! -Every fucking one of them
VodkaReindeer
And then companies go bankrupt, nothing happens then either. That's why buying stock in bankrupt Herz was a good idea. /s
enygma6
It's the RIAA pricing math, used when people pirated mp3s back in the day.
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Yep. My company said revenue is slowing. For the owners, yes. My revenue never fluctuates. And if the co. folds, I find a new job. IDGAF.
Depends. If he bought it at 110% of the normal price and sold them at 200%, he's still loose a 10% selling them at 100% price.
Plus the time invested.
Suikodenstar
And 12.55% eBay fees and shipping for example
Evi1Gav
Except, if he sold half the stock at 200% and the rest at MSRP, still a profit. It's profit/loss based on total, not what you have left.
BobHubert
So is this across the board if I want to build a PC?
flack9099
tell us more
TacticalSpoon
Supply has recovered, but we're also nearing the end of this hardware gen. Both new CPU and GPU are coming "second half of 2022".
Dagordae
Which is why supply has recovered. The people responsible for the shortage are saving for the next gen.
HedonistBeard
Maybe. With prices back to normal you can just get it from the store instead, so he likely can't sell it for what he bought them for.
artiejohansen
Here’s hoping.
JustARandomStrangerOnTheInternet
But how much does that eat into the profits he made from scalping gpus for the last 3 years? He still made money.
Assuming this wasn't his first purchase, sure. He's still an ass either way. But a "loss" is still a loss even if he can afford it.
nakri4700
nice solution to the annoying character limit
You don't get a warranty on secondhand purchases like that, so you have to discount it significantly for me to go for it.
dansonso1
EVGA does tho
More accurate: for most products, the warranty timer starts when bought from an authorized retailer. Secondhand sales do not refresh it, if»
they're even required to honor it at all. Most *say* they don't, but I've never tried.
LurkerOfDarkness
Depends on where you bought it, in the EU the 2 years can never be rescinded, literally no exceptions.
In some places you do, as long as you get the original receipt. 2 or 3 years I believe in the EU.
Nizedk
2 years warranty. Eu definition of warranty is a lot better than US - it's a fixed thing, not up to seller/manufacturer to decide.
Yeah, when I worked retail, Apple constantly tried to claim they only had 1 yr warranty, constantly had to beat them over the head with laws
CoarseAndSalty
That reminds me I need to get a new Card before shit goes crazy again.
Deleteded
hajimedj
skipweasel
PurifiedInTheWatersOfLakeMinnetonka
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
skipweasel
AntRam95
Dunothar
You fucking deserve it. Fuck those scumbags!
SLCtechie
Shaodyn
How sad. A piece of human garbage is no longer able to make obscene profits by selling something for dozens of times its value.
magister333350
Dude should feel lucky. A quartet of scalpers got beaten so badly all four were in the hospital for a while. Their two BMW's were torched. +
magister333350
None of their supply taken. And no witnesses despite a very full parking lot at Best Buy. And BB's cameras conveniently "failed". Cops +
magister333350
never caught anyone, nor were all that interested. Someone tried to gin up sympathy for them locally and got promptly & rightfully shit on.
SarahTheEverlame
Ah yes, the tragic tale of "Fuck those fucking guys."
TheobromineAddict
I just paid $500 extra for a new PC because of the over-inflated cost of the GPU component. I say fuck this guy.
kongfuchicken
Just? As in like within the past month? I've seen a lot of gpus selling under msrp, even low end models.
LucidPariah
Bought an Rtx 3060ti last month and my Skyrim has never looked better!
NervAssEva
Yep same. Fuck people that did this shit
MaximusPrime4444
Good, now hopefully PS5 will follow suit
HashMaster9k
thedorkitect
GPU pricing is not normal. They are still inflated by far.
smashpro1
On average, Nvidia cards are now only 6% above MSRP, and AMD's are only 2% above.
dart223
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Good.
MrAdamArce
Get fucked. Hope all of it burns so he actually loses everything
MadCat221
SpeedyCerviche
Some people think this is actually a legitimate business and not just legalised scamming. May as well trick old people into insurance.
boobsalot
Or trick young people in using stupid apps that mine their data.
AscensionGames
Funny thing, it is actually illegal lots of places to do this for concert, theatre, or sports tickets but it's somehow fine for other things
tcpolecat7
Well... This is basically how the stock market works globally...
Akurei00
You obviously know NOTHING about the stock market! /s
Xenarion
It's only a legitimate business if you sell where it's not available, and at a reasonable price. Like Japanese exporters.
EdWinchester
Perfectly legal but a right twat move.
PiggyWobbles
it is a "legitimate business" in the same way buying up all the water bottles in anticipation of a hurricane is. Still dirtbag moves
nastynate666
Yeah but if you try to sell that back at any kind of inflated price they'll come the fuck down on you. They don't fuck around with that
PiggyWobbles
yeah... i mean kind of. We let people do it with sanitary wipes in the pandemic as an example
QuartzPoker
You are right, but so is the other person. They didn't apply the laws re: disaster exploitation to COVID until months after it started.
nastynate666
I've never seen the law come down faster than the scalpers in a hurricane, happens every single hurricane too sadly
tcpolecat7
Fyremusik
a toilet paper hoarder/scalper in my area learned that lesson back in march 2020.
LincLoud
GamerDad82
Of this is true it warms my heart!
MattyMakes
Poor Baby // Into the pity you go!
Maitrify
Have graphic cards returned to MSRP yet?
BeanTootsAreBest
GPU prices are returning to normal? Still seem unnecessarily high and low availability
lsybarra
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/new/
liriodelagua
Same thought. I call bullshit.
CrestKnight
4 year ago mid tier card 200$, current midtier card 375$. (from manufacturer) with no lesser budget option.
OverpricedCrayon
It’s slightly easier to find them through retailers, but still no where close to normal or what it should be.
becausewhynotchoosethisrandomname
Just came from Mico Center yesterday. There was a surprising amount of RTX's available.
JasonThorn
I splurged on a 12 GB RTX 3070 for $1100 last year. Now the same one is almost half the price now. No sympathy for the devil.
SheepySleepySmuggler
Most are returning to at or near MSRP - still more expensive than pre-COVID but I suspect that will remain for a few more years...
Dukenukemx
I give it until the end of 2022. Bitcoin's value is dropping and so will other crypto currencies.
smashpro1
Bitcoin hasn't used GPU mining in years, and Ethereum will stop using them, soon.
parrais
Where can I find a new 3060 Ti in the UK at or near the UK MSRP of £369?
SheepySleepySmuggler
Ok, didn't realise the 3060Ti was supposed to be so low - I went the AMD route with a 6700xt for £490 and was surprised to see 3060Ti at 600
SheepySleepySmuggler
I can understand your reasons for wanting the nVidia card but I suspect those prices will come down fast over summer based on...
SheepySleepySmuggler
...mVidias own statements about pricing
cpcgamer
Make no mistake, he hasn't lost any money, he's just making less of a profit.
Targe0
Unless they bought them off another scalper hoping to sell them for even more. That would be away to lose money.
LordHosk
Or they made a deal with a retail store manager to buy pallets out the back door "Ill pay you 10 or 15% in cash plus pay the store the MSRP"
parkway
It was from a tiktok, guy with a bunch of unboxed gpus. Pretty much just some RMA center, and he was fishing for Likes.
BronkLuonk
you can't know that unless you know the price he bought them at and the current market price
JackSandwich
Economic loss over accounting loss (if I remember my High school economics)
zanaria
No if he bought them at a high price intending to sell them higher and they dropped down then he did lose money
94theBest
depends on when he bought. Might've actually lost money
FetteredJuvenescence
He may well have actually lost money. But he deserved it.
Corrodias
Oh, I don't know about that. You don't get a warranty on secondhand purchases, so I'm not paying full price for one of those. Discount it.
DungeonMaster69
Prices inflate, he buys them for 1000/piece hoping to sell for 1300. Prices drop to original 700 so he can't even get his own money back?
LordHosk
Its possible he purchased them at a bulk premium out the back door, assuming he could scalp them for even more. so it is a loss.
keykilla
I mean, if he purchased them at high price points and they've now dipped, he has lost money, because he will net negative on the resell.
rumpleforeskinforthewin
The “lost” money was probably the potential profit he thought he was going to make. That’s my thought process anyways.
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TomBrokaw
I don't know about you, but I'm not buying a card on ebay/craigslist/etc for MSRP, receipt or not
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Cut me a deal. Give me a reason to buy from you instead of somewhere I can get a warranty and shit.
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
Yes, it's lost potential it's not actually lost.
rumpleforeskinforthewin
I get that, but the scalper says they lost $23k which would imply they lost $23k that they did at one time have. Kind of misleading.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
It's called opportunity cost
mirrorz
Same thing corporations do when they report a "loss" to justify their price increases. They never lose anything.
Tyanet
Yep. The only ‘loss’ is that of greater potential gains.
Dalael
This guy who wasnt gonna by our product just downloaded it illegally. We lost money! -Every fucking one of them
VodkaReindeer
And then companies go bankrupt, nothing happens then either. That's why buying stock in bankrupt Herz was a good idea. /s
enygma6
It's the RIAA pricing math, used when people pirated mp3s back in the day.
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Yep. My company said revenue is slowing. For the owners, yes. My revenue never fluctuates. And if the co. folds, I find a new job. IDGAF.
Xenarion
Depends. If he bought it at 110% of the normal price and sold them at 200%, he's still loose a 10% selling them at 100% price.
Xenarion
Plus the time invested.
Suikodenstar
And 12.55% eBay fees and shipping for example
Evi1Gav
Except, if he sold half the stock at 200% and the rest at MSRP, still a profit. It's profit/loss based on total, not what you have left.
BobHubert
So is this across the board if I want to build a PC?
flack9099
tell us more
TacticalSpoon
Supply has recovered, but we're also nearing the end of this hardware gen. Both new CPU and GPU are coming "second half of 2022".
Dagordae
Which is why supply has recovered. The people responsible for the shortage are saving for the next gen.
HedonistBeard
Maybe. With prices back to normal you can just get it from the store instead, so he likely can't sell it for what he bought them for.
artiejohansen
Here’s hoping.
JustARandomStrangerOnTheInternet
But how much does that eat into the profits he made from scalping gpus for the last 3 years? He still made money.
HedonistBeard
Assuming this wasn't his first purchase, sure. He's still an ass either way. But a "loss" is still a loss even if he can afford it.
JustARandomStrangerOnTheInternet
nakri4700
nice solution to the annoying character limit
Corrodias
You don't get a warranty on secondhand purchases like that, so you have to discount it significantly for me to go for it.
dansonso1
EVGA does tho
Corrodias
More accurate: for most products, the warranty timer starts when bought from an authorized retailer. Secondhand sales do not refresh it, if»
Corrodias
they're even required to honor it at all. Most *say* they don't, but I've never tried.
LurkerOfDarkness
Depends on where you bought it, in the EU the 2 years can never be rescinded, literally no exceptions.
HedonistBeard
In some places you do, as long as you get the original receipt. 2 or 3 years I believe in the EU.
Nizedk
2 years warranty. Eu definition of warranty is a lot better than US - it's a fixed thing, not up to seller/manufacturer to decide.
LurkerOfDarkness
Yeah, when I worked retail, Apple constantly tried to claim they only had 1 yr warranty, constantly had to beat them over the head with laws