In these countries being a doctor, nurse,therapist is a source of huge social honor, not fabulous riches. They work hard and take home satisfaction and enough to live comfortably.
I would like to point out that one of the reasons for Russia's invasion of Ukraine was exactly the same: "if our own citizens see how well those neighbors are doing without our kind of repression, we'll be in big trouble."
I don't want us to collapse, but I am forced to agree. I hate it, but it's true.
The worst part is that a complete collapse would mean over 340 million people would be in a chaotic pandemonium, causing everything from rampant crime to failed infrastructure to economic collapse. And BECAUSE of that high population, it will not be easy to contain.
Even if the nation deserves to collapse, it had best be replaced fast. The civilized world cannot simply ignore the effects of the ensuing anarchy.
I wonder if the billionaires all trying for the AI boltzmann brain realized that the first people that will get the blame will be done and we will be out for blood
It’s one thing supporting 10 millions people but the cost for 30X is exponential.. And judging by the epidemic of obesity in USA, that’s clearly not gonna help.
Finally, by the way you treat your neighbours and allies (and enemies) I don’t think you could cut a third of defense spending for public healthcare without taking a hit there and then..
No it isn't. Economies of scale drive down cost. Not only because you can share infrastructure cost over more people, but also because you have more leverage to bargain with medical suppliers. (Or even to be able to build system-integrated production)
If anything it's the opposite. Economies of scale grow in efficiency as they get larger. So scaling up a system that properly handles 10 million to 360 million would end up costing less per capita than the 10 million.
As to the obesity, you're half right. Every universal healthcare system sees costs explode- at first- the first 20 years or so on fact. Then costs drop through the floor as overall health in the population improves and the number of doctors needed is educated.
We did. That’s why Trump is here. We threatened power, and they chose narcissistic bull to destroy any alternative. In the aftermath, after he is gone, they will look to distance themselves from his methods, and policies. Scapegoat him as if they didn’t hoist him up to destroy us. Seek to legitimize themselves as a party. They’re fucking Nazis. Now and always.
I know it isn't the point, but this guy sounds like someone who should know the definition of "third-world country" and why the US, by definition, cannot be one.
A "third world country" is a historical term from the Cold War era that originally described nations not aligned with the United States or the Soviet Union
Linguistics drift. Whether one likes it or not, when the majority of people say "third-world country" they are not referring to old Cold War allegiances.
It should be noted though that in spite of these great accomplishments, Cuba is still a single-party communist system without much political liberties or human rights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba
Yes, as opposed to what they were under the US government, which was... a single-party fascist system without political liberties or human rights, and also terrible literacy rates and no healthcare.
Indeed, and even after formal independence, the US repeatedly militarily intervened up until the revolution.
I know Batista is considered by many as a son of a bitch … but American interests come first … at least he was our son of a bitch. — U.S. State Department adviser William Wieland
Gough Whitlam got kicked out of office by Kerr, who just very coincidentally happened to be in several CIA funded organizations. Australia simply had enough involvement with the U.S./U.K. power structures, Five Eyes, and the overall right that the CIA could take a more passive role and seeing where the cards would land. They were also of course more hesitant to take obvious action in a western country v.s. global south. It was not a bloody coup, but I believe blood would be a follow-up step.
Yeah they were pretty strongly implicated with the Petit-Clarmont attack. It's hard to prove anything (of course) but the CIA in Algiers did have a lot of official dealings with the faction behind the attack until the attack happened and failed.
It's probably wrong of me to say one way or another, but the fact that we can't just say it's nonsense based on the circumstantial evidence and behaviour of the CIA at the time is pretty damning tbh.
But nobody owns any part of Antarctica. Nobody can, by international treaty.
The pre-existing claims some nations have made technically still exist, but are "on hold". Indeed, every claimant is a signatory to the Antarctic Treaty. Presently, those claims serve only as a loose guide for where a country puts its research stations.
Ergo, Antarctica is not a country. It has no government TO coup! Your statement is still valid, but it's for the nation of Australia.
Unless the Antarctic Treaty is broken, not ever. Nobody with an existing claim can press or expand their claim, and no new claims can be made.
So, as it is not a country, it has no governing body at all, meaning the CIA has nothing to meddle with or overthrow. But it also means that the question does not apply to it.
thisuserisafk
We are the worst country.
rubypilgrim
btw - this isn't in the news much, but Trump has had Cuba blockaded for months. No fuel can get in, the island is basically locked.
Tenzil
hendawg2020
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1aXAybDduM3BucHNscW5pb3F1YXlrcDJvaXVxYXdjYzNsem5mMnE0NSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3o72Fk2eBOXRDhoq9W/200w.webp
davebarton315101
In these countries being a doctor, nurse,therapist is a source of huge social honor, not fabulous riches. They work hard and take home satisfaction and enough to live comfortably.
foxpotate
Allen Dulles was a Wall Street creep before he was the head of the OSI/CIA. He also was extremely pro-fascist.
Bumbleflarts
Phil had a car accident on the way home frontier interview
pickleops
Cuba is a Second World country.
svga
a LOT of if's there
TheVillageGrouch9000
A date would be helpful. He mentioned $22k for median us income. Don't doubt the points made but needs more context to leaning believe it.
Tenzil
The date is given at the start.
TheVillageGrouch9000
I see it now - thanks. I read subtitles as my hearing is off.
Ricdesan
Another great example of why the US is the most heinous terrorist state in the world ... by a magnitude of order.
ExTechOp
I would like to point out that one of the reasons for Russia's invasion of Ukraine was exactly the same: "if our own citizens see how well those neighbors are doing without our kind of repression, we'll be in big trouble."
Ricdesan
From your lips to the worlds ears.
Maviyakuku
Venezuela paid the price for Cuba.
MaddogDelphi1997
Cuba is able to do this because it's a small country with practically budget for offensive military operations AND because it's socialist.
senyu
If reforms can't fix this fucked up country then it deserves to eat itself and collapse.
DukeDarkwood
I don't want us to collapse, but I am forced to agree. I hate it, but it's true.
The worst part is that a complete collapse would mean over 340 million people would be in a chaotic pandemonium, causing everything from rampant crime to failed infrastructure to economic collapse. And BECAUSE of that high population, it will not be easy to contain.
Even if the nation deserves to collapse, it had best be replaced fast. The civilized world cannot simply ignore the effects of the ensuing anarchy.
thatwoodguy
I wonder if the billionaires all trying for the AI boltzmann brain realized that the first people that will get the blame will be done and we will be out for blood
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eathotdog
Anything less than a hypothetical utopia is scoffed at, let's not be hasty now change is communism!!!
Rockafella83
It’s one thing supporting 10 millions people but the cost for 30X is exponential.. And judging by the epidemic of obesity in USA, that’s clearly not gonna help.
Finally, by the way you treat your neighbours and allies (and enemies) I don’t think you could cut a third of defense spending for public healthcare without taking a hit there and then..
pixelsnader
No it isn't. Economies of scale drive down cost. Not only because you can share infrastructure cost over more people, but also because you have more leverage to bargain with medical suppliers. (Or even to be able to build system-integrated production)
EmperorCartagia
If anything it's the opposite. Economies of scale grow in efficiency as they get larger. So scaling up a system that properly handles 10 million to 360 million would end up costing less per capita than the 10 million.
As to the obesity, you're half right. Every universal healthcare system sees costs explode- at first- the first 20 years or so on fact. Then costs drop through the floor as overall health in the population improves and the number of doctors needed is educated.
Eyeetsass
We did. That’s why Trump is here. We threatened power, and they chose narcissistic bull to destroy any alternative. In the aftermath, after he is gone, they will look to distance themselves from his methods, and policies. Scapegoat him as if they didn’t hoist him up to destroy us. Seek to legitimize themselves as a party. They’re fucking Nazis. Now and always.
tonehoundsmoser9
And what do we do with nazis, children?
Eyeetsass
I’d like to launch them out of a trebuchet into the Grand Canyon.
BorkSamson
Good, thatll give the woodworkers something important to do.
But in a pinch, any 9mm round close range to head will suffice.
Keitterman
I know it isn't the point, but this guy sounds like someone who should know the definition of "third-world country" and why the US, by definition, cannot be one.
A "third world country" is a historical term from the Cold War era that originally described nations not aligned with the United States or the Soviet Union
Daliena06
Linguistics drift. Whether one likes it or not, when the majority of people say "third-world country" they are not referring to old Cold War allegiances.
zFUBARz
I get what you're saying, but that definition has been shifted for almost my entire life and I'm not a young man.
defaultname2000
is there any country south of US that never got a coup proudly presented and supported by CIA?
JesaraB
From what I can find... Paraguay... where they instead supported a dictator and used the country as an intelligence base against all neighbors
NinjaBauer
Cuba, which has a higher literacy rate than the US, and cured lung cancer
ExTechOp
It should be noted though that in spite of these great accomplishments, Cuba is still a single-party communist system without much political liberties or human rights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba
thanatos777
Yes, as opposed to what they were under the US government, which was... a single-party fascist system without political liberties or human rights, and also terrible literacy rates and no healthcare.
ExTechOp
Indeed, and even after formal independence, the US repeatedly militarily intervened up until the revolution.
I know Batista is considered by many as a son of a bitch … but American interests come first … at least he was our son of a bitch.
— U.S. State Department adviser William Wieland
ThongsAreFootwear
Yep, Australia.
And we be doin pretty good, thank you very much.
pixelsnader
Gough Whitlam got kicked out of office by Kerr, who just very coincidentally happened to be in several CIA funded organizations. Australia simply had enough involvement with the U.S./U.K. power structures, Five Eyes, and the overall right that the CIA could take a more passive role and seeing where the cards would land. They were also of course more hesitant to take obvious action in a western country v.s. global south. It was not a bloody coup, but I believe blood would be a follow-up step.
agonarch
I mean... look at France in the 60's, I'm not sure involvement in western power systems is any protection.
pixelsnader
Enlighten me? I mean, I know de Gaulle didn't get along with the U.S. but they didn't try to coup him did they?
agonarch
Yeah they were pretty strongly implicated with the Petit-Clarmont attack. It's hard to prove anything (of course) but the CIA in Algiers did have a lot of official dealings with the faction behind the attack until the attack happened and failed.
It's probably wrong of me to say one way or another, but the fact that we can't just say it's nonsense based on the circumstantial evidence and behaviour of the CIA at the time is pretty damning tbh.
tonehoundsmoser9
Maybe Antarctica
garbuhj
Antarctica isn't a country
Anfalicious
Australia claims 42% of Antarctica, and we've been couped by the CIA (1975)
zFUBARz
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/whitlam-coup-us-cia-kerr welllllllll
DukeDarkwood
But nobody owns any part of Antarctica. Nobody can, by international treaty.
The pre-existing claims some nations have made technically still exist, but are "on hold". Indeed, every claimant is a signatory to the Antarctic Treaty. Presently, those claims serve only as a loose guide for where a country puts its research stations.
Ergo, Antarctica is not a country. It has no government TO coup! Your statement is still valid, but it's for the nation of Australia.
tonehoundsmoser9
Not yet. But technically it's south of the US and hasn't had a CIA-funded coup, so far.
garbuhj
OP's question asked about countries
DukeDarkwood
Unless the Antarctic Treaty is broken, not ever. Nobody with an existing claim can press or expand their claim, and no new claims can be made.
So, as it is not a country, it has no governing body at all, meaning the CIA has nothing to meddle with or overthrow. But it also means that the question does not apply to it.