Apparently Endemic has a new definition. I.e. 'It's over.' I'm tired.

Feb 20, 2022 7:41 PM

BunkerJohn

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Covid is shifting towards endemic, and that's a good thing. Such things can be controlled (like with the flu) with masks, distancing, etc, to prevent spikes. Cases/test positivity are still high in places, but nationally, infection rates and hospitalizations are falling. Not to a good baseline yet, but clearly falling.

Now, here's the thing. Endemic means it's always present. So, during waves/spikes, you enact measures to mitigate it. Wear an N95/K95 when in public spaces, etc. Nothing huge. No massive shutdowns, just occasional heightened measures being enacted. Like during a nasty flu season.

But emphasis on 'enact measures.'

https://thenationaldesk.com/news/health/california-lays-out-nations-first-endemic-covid-plan-as-more-states-loosen-restrictions-coronavirus-new-phase-gavin-newsom-ca

https://local12.com/amp/news/nation-world/utah-becomes-second-state-to-announce-endemic-covid-policy-coronavirus-pandemic-end-governor-spencer-cox-masks-vaccine-guidelines-plan

Most recent COVID update: https://imgur.com/gallery/d2SPxNk

This touched a nerve. I'm fuming at my desk.

In Utah (where I'm at), there are no measures for masks, distancing, etc. There haven't been for some time. This is the case with other States as well.

Now, Covid is NOT like other respiratory virus's. 10-30% of people who contract it and have symptoms may develop Long Covid. If vaccinated, that rate appears to be lower, but we don't know by how much.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/29/1041501387/coronavirus-long-covid-study-plos-medicine

So when the current variant is nearly as contagious as the measles, that should at least worry you a bit. Not make you shut yourself inside your home, but at least wear a mask, vaccinated or not, if around a ton of people.

Let me reiterate. If you get symptoms, especially if unvaccinated, there's a 10-30% chance you will have lingering, potentially debilitating symptoms we don't know how to cure. We don't even understand why it happens. Brain fog, lung issues, clotting- it's a laundry list of problems.

And we don't know why. Personally, I find that worrying.

As someone with a family member who medically can't get vaccinated, and another who was extremely-high risk for a time...I'm just tired of this rhetoric. This wouldn't have touched a nerve as much aside from the fact many individuals haven't ever taken this virus seriously. Now that levels are declining, it just give them another excuse for it.

So, to anyone who says 'some people' 'could stand to take this less seriously' and 'it's just another virus' and flaunt not wearing a mask, may I offer this immature, succinct, but genuine rebuttable.

I still post weekly updates on Saturdays. I'll be streamlining the updates and posting them both to here, as well as a new platform in the next few months for multiple reasons, one being...well, people have moved on from the Pandemic, on Imgur and off.

The politics/measures being lifted are another indicator of that. Originally that was planned during May, but since the world is moving on, I may speed that up. It has been an absolute pleasure of mine to help so many people prepare and stay informed, but...well, the world is moving on, unless I'm vastly misinformed.

That said, I'm not going to stop informing and helping others prepare. It's what I love to do. I just need to slim it down from previous, large update format.

To not end this post on too much of a downer note, may I offer this request this Sunday.

Be a good neighbor. The world needs more of that nowadays. Look out for each other. Call a friend, check up on a grandparent. Make the world a bit better for someone today.

From a tired and fed-up Imigurian,

-Bunker John

Post-Most-Viral edit:

The fact this post, with a more ranting/frustrated spin gets the front page while my regular unbiased/not emotional updates no longer do (for months now) is another reason I'm winding things down. Imgur, like other social media/news sites, gravitates to the emotional and the negative. I'm not surprised, just an interesting observation. I guess I'd feel better slowing down/changing the updates if it was due to COVID being over, rather than being ignored.

I've never wanted to add to said negativity, and today was the obvious exception due to this headline.

That said, I really appreciate all the supportive words. I've continued this a lot longer than I intended largely due to knowing there was a need, and helping others prepare is truly a passion of mine. Thank you so much for your kind words =) Know that I read every single comment and try to reply to them all!

Be good to each other, and stay safe. I'm not going anywhere, just frustrated and realizing I need to shift some things around.
Again,
-Bunker John.

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You've been a pillar of our community here Bunker John. I don't comment hardly ever but I read your posts and appreciate the work you do

4 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

I'm happy to have done so! I guess I'd feel a lot better if I could tone down updates due to Covid being gone, rather than ignored.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I admit I've fallen off the last few weeks. As a teacher it's been rough but since the beginning truly appreciate all the work you have done

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I certainly don't blame you. Everyone is sick of things to varying extents.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

wHaT?!! wAiT bUt I tHouGht iT MeAnt tHe EnD of tHe pandEMIC. END-EMIC.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah about that.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@op The Fortune 100 company I work has been calling COVID a “seasonal flu” for month. Masks not required.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

*Internal screaming intensifies*

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm going to continue to wear my mask and get any vaccinations I can. My state is just lifting its mask mandates. Luckily my county isn't.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Same here.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

10-30%? Jesus. I don’t even think NASA launches at those numbers.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thank you for everything

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You are most welcome.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It’s finally getting bad in New Zealand after prepping for 2 years; we’re at 95% vaccinated but it’s still scary having +2500 cases

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

The variants have put such a spin on measures it's crazy. What works for base covid just doesn't work for Omicron.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

At least your country is taking it seriously.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

95% of us our. That’s still leaves thousands of muppets filling the streets and flinging their own poo at the police

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Only 5% of your population are batshit? Lucky bastard.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

US here, care to trade?

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I'm not happy about an endemic disease that mutates frequently. Sooner or later we'll see a highly infectious and DEADLY variant.

4 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

probably won’t even tell us, and “let it wash over America” do we don’t end up in lockdowns again. Ppl start dying they’ll blame omnicron

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're not wrong. Wish you were, but yeah. COVID is such a novel virus...(mutations, how it affects the body, etc.)

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

My SO is on immunosuppressants and we're trying to figure out how we're going to live from now on because of this, even without new variants

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

28 days later...

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

What's really sad, is a virus like that (or Ebola) likely wouldn't have gotten to this stage because it's so visible, brutal, and obvious.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That would be bad from a covid point of view. If it kills everybody it has no hosts to spread to. Ending up as a endemic is a virus big win!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're one of the good ones OP.. thank you for all your work

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You are most welcome =)

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm vaccinated and take it reasonably seriously and got Covid and am still fucked up by it over a month later. Cox can go fuck a cactus.

4 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Take it less seriously my fucking ass. If the goddamn world as a whole could have taken it seriously maybe we could stand to do that now.

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

It's the fact COVID is largely invisible. Just plays into everything. I hope you feel better soon! The response in general was a mess.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm fortunate cause my long lasting symptoms aren't too severe, but they're still very annoying when they hit me, and they hit me often.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That's good to hear- I do hope it becomes less and less over time!

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thanks. It's certainly gotten a lot better so hopefully it continues that trend.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

bUt MuH fReEdOmS! tHiS iS jUsT lIkE NaZi GeRmAnY! /s

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Is that Governor Spencer "Pray The Drought Away" Cox? Yeah, he's my fuckin' favorite.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

One word. Ugh.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

After talking to biochemists and my pharmacist sister and reading up on what they told me, the best explanation for long covid is thus:

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It binds to a receptor (ACE2) that can impact inflammation and oxygen transfer, among other things. Covid is a circulatory infection

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Repeating this is second hand information at best - neither person I talked to is working with covid directly, but it is their field

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That is fascinating! I've read that Covid is more of a blood/circulatory disease than a respiratory one in some aspects, so that makes sense

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There are other versions too - that it can reactivate EB virus or that covid damages immune system.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hmmm. It sounds like a mess to say the least. Just a conglomeration of complications.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Americans are about to spend a shit ton of money on things they don't need with money they don't have.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Reminds me of lymes disease. Just because you ignore a problem...doesn't mean it isn't there.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I feel every bit of this in my soul. As someone with terrible covid anxiety who just found out I have an auto immune disease. Fuck people.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I'm very sorry to hear your diagnosis. I hope you can find some sure-fire treatments, or at least manageable measures.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Thanks so much. Your posts have really been so helpful the past 2 years. Hope you're taking care of yourself and staying semi sane <3

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Of course, and I'm so glad to hear that! I'm honestly doing really well- this headline really just ticked me off for a few hours, and >

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it has been such a long slog, to hear the utter dismissal was just downright insulting.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Also, cases are "dropping" because self test kits are everywhere. Almost no one reporting it. My fam just got it, we did self test.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That's...a point I didn't consider. Test Positivity is dropping though- even with reduced testing, so that's a good sign.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Endemic disease presence is the participation trophy when compared to disease eradication in a pandemic. Thnk you for all your hard work @OP

4 years ago | Likes 265 Dislikes 3

Covid is zoonotic - it cannot be irradicated. Becoming endemic after only a few years due to worldwide vaccination is unprecedented success

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

¹Yes, SARS-CoV-2 origins stem from a viral spread from animals to people, but it's incorrect to believe that diseases cannot be eradicated

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

²simply because of their origin. The virus jumped species but in its nascency there was an opportunity to stifle it by depriving it of hosts

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

³The reason we create vaccinations: deprivation of hosts is how diseases are eradicated but this is best achieved before rampant mutations.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Endemic certainly means that humanity lost and the virus won.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The "good" thing about viruses is as they mutate they tend to become less deadly. So humanity will be pretty fucked up but mostly alive.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Lol no there wasn’t. Vaccines should have been mandated because of public health instead of being politicized. Society screwed this one.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

¹Part of that is changing our mindset about disease. Mandating wouldn't have mattered since there were countries that couldn't access enough

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

²vaccines to begin w/. Even if we had mandated, it wouldn't have stopped the emergence of Omicron in S.Africa. We need to think globally.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I agree. But the “participation trophy” made me laugh.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I don’t look forward to the next pandemic…. Which will probably happen more quickly than any of us suspect.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Based on nothing, I think you're right. I'm still waiting for things to go back to 'predecented' though.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And we still won’t be prepared. :/

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's a fantastic way of describing it. That said, how infectious COVID is, I think endemic was the only option. And you are most welcome.

4 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 0

At this point it is. Globally we lost our window of opportunity for prevention& eradication but perhaps we can learn before others occur.

4 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

Hahaha. Aw, lookit you with your optimism. Billionaires made out like bandits during it. I'll be surprised if they don't stoke the next.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Narrator: "But they did not learn anything that they applied next time."

4 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

Agreed.

4 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

I appreciate your optimism, but SARS and MERS were the wake up calls we didn't answer. I'm skeptical that most govts will take precautions.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

HIV was our wakeup call & we hit the snooze button w/Ebola, SARS, & MERSA. The sad fact is none of us think global disease prevention.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

We won't learn. I guarantee it.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

You I’ll never be forgotten - the info you shared early on allowed me to be prepared and educated and keep my family safe

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

you are part of our Covid story to pass through the generations - BunkerJohn made Mom (gran,great gran) buy masks and hand san etc

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

and none of her family got Covid.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Comments like these are why I keep the updates rolling. I love helping others, and hearing the personal stories make it all seem a bit>

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

more real from behind the screen. I'm honored that I could be a part of that and help prepare you and your family!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Another mom whose family still hasn’t gotten covid through 2 births. Super appreciative of your help.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've got a crap immune system. Gonna die of COVID b/c of people who say, "I'm vaccinated & I'm tired of wearing masks, so I won't any more."

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Hope you can stay safe =(

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I just do NOT understand what is so difficult about wearing a mask….

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

These people act like they're being asked to wrap their head in plastic wrap. It's depressing.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wish I could stop being bummed out and pissed off about it. It really is depressing

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You and me both, friend.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Always nice to have company

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Myself and I'm sure many others have followed you since this first started happening. Thank you for your dedication and non-biased info. <3

4 years ago | Likes 111 Dislikes 0

This is the first time I’ve ever seen a post of OPs. Seems to have a pretty high opinion of him/herself.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 8

You are welcome; it's why I have kept it going for so long!

4 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Same here. That was alot of time taken to ensure people had correct info when needed. Thanking op for doing that

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Same @op - thank you

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

So much this

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Funny you mention chicken pox @op, covid vaxxed+boost here, still caught in Jan. 3 weeks later, now have Shingles, on my head & its all pain

4 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 1

I’m so sorry that happened to you. Have you been vaccinated against shingles?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh jeez. I'm so sorry to hear that =(

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Fuck shingles. Also got it this year. Not a great time.

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I am fully vaccinated, as I worked in the medical field, I still managed to get chicken pox 3x and shingles. Some people are just screwed.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I’ve followed you since the beginning and appreciated your statistical analysis and unbiased facts. Good luck and thanks for your effort.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Welcome! Glad to help!

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Look up polio. The basic symptom was GI upset. The paralysis affected about 0.5 percent of the cases. “Long-Polio” as it were. Familiar?

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Hmmmm. I didn't know that about Polio. Familiar indeed.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Will we be comfortable with an endemic Long Covid? Time will tell.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Personally I certainly won't. But yep, we have to wait.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As the father of a child with an immune system deficiency, thanks @op for caring.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

You are most welcome; I hope you and your family can stay safe through all of this.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

We're trying. It scares me to think he might not live to adulthood.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just hang in there- all you can do is your best, as difficult as that may be.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Still going to wear a mask when I go out. I have no idea when I will feel comfortable enough to stop. Appreciate all you do BJ

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Same here. Feels odd to not in the office (vast majority are masked, and wearing an N95 would be a nightmare, tbh.) And most welcome =)

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why a nightmare?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

N95's are uncomfortable to say the least, let alone for 8+ hrs daily. Thankfully, the offices are separated (not cubical) so risk is low.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That’s good. N95s don’t seem to bother me, at least not for 5-6 hours

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I have crazy respect for nurses who have to wear them. It's a balance of risk vs staying sane.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am with you. I am so tired. And frustrated with humankind as a whole. I was only part introvert before this happened. Now I am full

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Introvert. I am planning the rest of my life so I only have to interact with the public on a limited basis. Because fuck this.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Same, I would happily start a commune with you, where the guiding principle is "forget I'm here, leave me alone"

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Exactly. There are dozens of us!!

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Me too

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The stupidity and selfishness has been harder to deal with than the virus

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yes.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Amazing work. Thank you.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Most welcome.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Hey man- thank you. You had me ready for this well before anyone else. I greatly appreciate what you did. Thank you again and be well.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

You are most welcome. Helping others prepare is what I love to do, and I certainly am not going to stop! =D Today just really touched a >

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

nerve with me, since so many of us are doing our best to look out for each other, and then people say *gestures to my post.*

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Also from Utah. I was furious when I read this last night. My 2 year old spent 4 days in hospital from a standard cold previously.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I can’t feel like a good parent and risk him getting anything until he can get vaccinated. I’m so angry right now.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Same situation. Angry and frustrated are something of a constant now, unfortunately.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How old do they have to be to get the vaccine now?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They just revoked an early approval for 0-5 saying the immune response needed to be studied at a 3rd dose for 2-5 range to confirm effective

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not approved for anyone under 5

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I’m so sorry. That has to be so scary for you. This pandemic is the only thing that makes me happy my daughter is grown. ?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's a mess. I'm 3x vax'd, masks, etc, but how long? I don't have an answer; especially when people won't look out for each other. I hope >

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

your child stays safe through all of this. It's hard on the kids especially.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Also have 5 year olds that want to go to school. It’s a nightmare scenario.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

People are surprised my almost2 year old likes people because she’s a covid baby and it breaks my heart. How many of them will be messed up?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just...yeah. It's a lose-lose situation, especially during developmental years. I honestly don't have solid recommendations for that.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Ok, but when can we relax. I've been holding the line in a red state for nearly two solid years. Triple vaxxed and had omicron. When?

4 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 9

I feel like his is going to continue to be a constant from now on. Like the flu...

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How many new hospitals? How many new testing/analytical laboratories? New training programs for resp therapists? Dreaming isn't enough

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It's weird, I was just in the UK for a week for work. Up and down the country, on public transport. Masking anywhere was exceedingly rare.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I’m going to continue to hold strong until my immuno compromised kids can get a vaccine.

4 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

It's ridiculous they keep prolonging that. Especially when it worked for the under 2s.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Depends. How many of your friends or family are you willing to let die because you're tired of it?

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Nice emotional appeal, but tbh, most of them have had it. Are you proposing something that would help? I'm listening

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Yes. We keep going as we have been. Doing our best and taking measures to stem the spread. We don't stop because you're bored.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We played softball with morons for too long and now you'll probably have to be concerned about Covid for years. Shoulda been hard lockdowns.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I don't think it's that simple. Both Delta and Omicron originated outside the U.S. and I think it's tough to pin the entire issue on

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Unvaccinated Americans. This is coming from a fully Vaccinated Californian.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Okay, but how did they spread globally? If people aren't flying around the world for no fucking reason they would have been less of an issue

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Idk if it would have helped, but trying hard while neighbors actively worked against me was painful

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What does that mean exactly? You've been holding the line in a red state?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Can’t speak for them, but to me it means getting triple vax/masked up/being extremely careful in a state where it feels like no one else is.

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

There aren't any states where everyone is being careful & getting vaxxed etc is just good judgement. Nothing to do with where you live.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Ok but here, throngs of people were literally burning masks in front of the capitol building like *most* of the people have bad sense

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't get the part where if others are idiots I or whoever should be too.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Yep, basically

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pandemics seem to last about 5 years. This is on track to be a short pandemic. Another year if we are lucky.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My benchmark that I've been holding my breath for all along is the <5 crowd. My son is 4, was premature, has asthma, and can't get vacc.

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

They keep almost releasing, almost approving, and it is driving me and the parent friends I know insane. And the religious crowd who is supp

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Supposed to be all about saving the children are looking at me in my mask like I'm the asshole as they go on like nothing is wrong.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Two kids under 5 on our block have been hospitalized with it. My wife and I have changed our jobs twice over to stay home.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thank you for caring for your kids and others. I’ve given birth twice in covid times and it’s so frustrating to see people not give a shit

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You’re the perfect parents for your beautiful children! Stand your ground for them. Don’t let anyone “look” or even tell you otherwise. ❤️

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Literally everyone that wants a vaccine has gotten one. How long till we accept that it's here to stay, and we will never convince everyone?

4 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 8

did you forget children under 5? that's still a huge chunk of people that can't vaccinate

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Idk why we ever had to convince people rather than just making it mandatory

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I think the point of the post is that we're transitioning to what you're describing right now.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you don't have a vaccine by now, you probably aren't getting one. I'll still wear a mask and stuff, but we gotta move on some day.

4 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 6

Can we put up a benchmark of what we want to see to relax? I appreciate your work but we can't be at high alert forever.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 5

I'm pretty sure everything around me has moved back to normal, with the exception that some are still wearing masks.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And ya know a coworker disapears every couple months or so.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It could even be harmful because we're so fatigued that the next crisis won't be taken as seriously.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

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4 years ago (deleted Feb 24, 2022 7:15 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I don't disagree; but my point isn't that we need to remain at a super high alert level. As it moves to endemic, measures should be relaxed-

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Are we just again forgetting that giant population of 0-5 year olds that CANNOT get the vaccine yet? Cause fuck ‘em and their parents right?

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

The UK government is only vaccinating 6-12yo from April.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have there been issues with 0-5 year olds? We've all been exposed at this point.

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Kids die too, and saying they won’t suffer long COVID is also unknown. It to mention their viral shedding is much higher than adults, so

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Caretakers with comorbidities are at an increased risk in the presence of unvaccinated children

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