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Anchorage, Alaska - Alexandra Ellis got 74 days in jail for vehicular manslaughter*.
*...and by vehicular manslaughter, I mean that she was drunk, underage, high on drugs, without a license, at night, driving backwards (for fun?), and hit a man on a bike, didn't attempt to help, and left the scene of the crime.
Source: http://www.ktva.com/details-unfold-in-fatal-south-anchorage-hit-and-run-870/
Bonus: She didn't immediately go to jail because they didn't want to upset her current life.
Source: http://www.adn.com/crime-justice/article/anchorage-judge-says-alexandra-ellis-heads-jail-may-2-after-she-finishes-college/2016/03/15/
Summary: Her 4 month initial sentence moved to 74 days for good behavior.
Source: https://craigmedred.news/2016/08/18/cyclists-killer-out-of-jail/
I know this will die in usersub, but I needed to get it off my chest.
sprbwlshuffler
The system is fucked.
Unkulunkulu
JeriahswillGDP
And yet I personally know people who have gotten far longer jail time for selling a plant, first time offense. Ridiculous.
Imissthe80sandIwanttogohome
What a cunt.
amishcannoli
How do judges not blast people with maximum sentences for such twattery?
Counterfit
They've got to get donations for their re-election campaigns
JerkingAndLurking
solomonbishop
"I know this will die in usersub" oh ffs. Fuckin really?
sulsun
The officers knocked on the door of the residence where the vehicle was parked and Ellis answered, according to court documents. (1/3)
sulsun
When asked if she knew why the officers were there, she replied, “I do. I don’t know what to say besides please arrest me.
sulsun
I’m a horrible person.”
PujiEmau
She got to go to the state fair with her family while she was "in custody" which counted towards her time served.
CurtGoBang
I wonder how much time the family would get for punching the judge? I seriously doubt it would be less than 74 days.
KiltedinSeattle
They should try it and find out.
mumblety
@OP, both my parents killed by driver with suspended license,no insurance,unreg vehicle. Sentence: 3 weekends in jail; no justice
babyspacerectum
Gus im sorry. I want you to know that all of thus buklshit racks up on peopke and then they get it and hard. Just rakes time
babyspacerectum
Mut im seriously sorrt for yoyr guys losses
DisorderlyChaos
My best friend when I was 8 was hit by a drunk lady and dragged a few feet. She got her license taken away and served ZERO jail time.
mumblety
I cannot even comprehend what the judges were thinking.
DisorderlyChaos
@Mumblety ...and that sucks. I'm sorry for your loss.
nacholibre2007
I had 90 days for pot
OhMyGodTheyKilledBrianYouBastards
I got 90 days for kicking a cheating ex girlfriends headlight..
MostUninterestingManInTheWorld
The judge must have looked at your tax returns.
bluehonuangel17
Not surprised some affluental kid gets away with all this shit because mommy and daddy cover for her dumbass.
SomeJustice
My brother and best friend was killed by a careless driver while my brother was on his bike. This bitch can burn in hell.
Dilligaffin
You're a rich girl, and you've gone too far 'cause you know it don't matter anyway...
moontime1
you can rely on your old mans money
voidme457
You can rely on the old man's money You can rely on the old man's money It's a bitch girl but it's gone too far
KiltedinSeattle
You can rely on your old man's money...
mursupilami
i'm just a rich girl from a rich family...
retgarr
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39016412&nid=148&title=syracuse-man-pleads-guilty-to-reduced-dui-charge-in-cyclists-death Served 2 months.
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
SHE'S JUST A RICH GIRL EVERYONE LOVES HER SPARE HER THE CONSEQUENCES OF HER ACTIONS
TaintToucher
I read the first part like the song and then this part like you were shouting at me
asterysk
Took a poor man's life; not charged with a felony.
buttoncamus
Sparing my life despite this monstrosity
thatoneguyfrommn
*rich white family...
Dingohead
Hope she gets it back double
theBigBadDoge
+1, you deserve it!
illustratediz
One of the hardest parts was what an awesome member of the community the man she killed was.
zagibu
Only the good die young.
PossibilitiesToCertainties
And we're left with this shit-stain. Fantastic.
gettodachopper69
We need a new, very selective plague.
babyspacerectum
You see she is the new epidemic the shitdemic
NotThatJoeYouKnow
that is like 7 different crimes at once each of which could have gotten that as a punishment alone?
ZachPutland
Yeah but it's a she so not really
totalwiener
More like it's because she's fucking rich. This has happened before with rich and influential families with their sons before.
neffstradamus
Im from Anchorage, there's more to this story, but yes she received an absurdly light sentence.
Trophonix
Except for the murder. That would've been worse.
Cambino
Well they cancel each other out. Like BEDMAS, or some shit.
limved
This is what I don't get.
zagibu
Yeah, sadly, being drunk and high probably even counted as mitigating circumstances.
NotThatJoeYouKnow
yeah that is why it is a manslaughter charge but there are like 3 or 4 other things they should have charged her with to add prison time
shuttlecockinakumquat
It's a manslaughter charge because she didn't wittingly kill someone. That it was at night helps her a ton. Being underage also goes far.
AreThoseMyPants
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying what she did nor that the choices leading to it were smart, but it was, still, an accident. Tough case.
Bryyo216
@NotThatJoeYouKnow isn't confused why it's manslaughter. He's just saying she should've had more charges against her with more prison time
SkiMaskThePlumpGod
Story says it was at 10 am the next morning and she had a BAC of .10. My buddy did a hit and run on a parked car and got off worse than her.
SkiMaskThePlumpGod
Also believe that the story said she was 18, not underage
schawdaya
and black people get life in prison for fucking weed possession. im white and all i got was a 'lol dont smoke this again kids ;)' wtf
troy11998822
Shut the fuck up with your race inserting bullshit. Plenty of white, brown and yellow people doing life for weed
schawdaya
no agenda here. call me misinformed but im just going off of what i know.
DankMemesMakeGreatDreams
Life for possession? Is that stacked ontop of a murder or some shit? Life is more like trafficking or intent to sell (with other charges.)
troy11998822
Well, typically possession with intent to dist. Look at Oklahoma's marijuana laws. Absolutely fucking insane
BirdOPrey5
Didn't Dexter move to Alaska?
NachoPete
And now she moved out of Alaska.
moneybagski
I'm on season 8
BirdOPrey5
I purposely lied, don't worry. Nothing spoiled.
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
Judges sure do like going easy on rich college kids who do despicable shit. If only judges were, you know...just.
dwilson0725
I knew a middle class guy in college. Was on probation for vehicular manslaughter. Probably served about 8 months? I thought that was crazy
RaisinZetaJones
Judges do not sit in a justice system. They sit in a legal system. We live under the rule of law, a binding set of rules that we agree
RaisinZetaJones
either apply to everybody or nobody. What is just is too personal and subjective. That the law has wiggle room for sentencing does not mean
RaisinZetaJones
the law was not executed in this case. Maybe it sucks. Maybe what the law is offends your personal sense of justice.
imortis
You do understand that most judges were rich college kids who did despicable things?
brickonator
Even if they didn't do bad stuff themselves they definitely will "relate" to that type of person more and would be more likely to be lenient
retgarr
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39016412&nid=148&title=syracuse-man-pleads-guilty-to-reduced-dui-charge-in-cyclists-death Served 2 months.
WowWhatAWhore
What's the point of keeping people in cells for the rest of their lifes?
swinglinered
To protect the people on the outside. Also revenge.
WowWhatAWhore
Justice system isn't about revenge, fuck off with that shit. Lot's of prisoners can be trained back into society as well.
swinglinered
I didn't say it was right. Just that that is what part of it is.
WowWhatAWhore
No it isn't. Revenge isn't part of the justice system.
createdforupvoting
If she's underage, presumably she was also tried as a juvenile, which would explain most of this.
MrSteele
She's 18, so given the severity I doubt she should have been tried as a juvenile.
TomtheVisionary
She was 17 at the time of the incident
Rez994
i am sceptical about this post too , could you elaborate some more ?
sam1tahsin
She. Is. 18
salamanderthegreat
Meanwhile juveniles in my state can be tried as adults for minor offences committed in school.
uvwaexx
States rights! Don't you feel more adequately represented??
RedZed
Usually they can't release names of minors and information about juvenile court cases unless they're being tried as an adult.
1221johnny
Shes an adult now, but was a juvenile when it happened
RedZed
Even at 18 now, she could have been tried in Juvenile court. In Maryland, you can be in Juvenile court until you're 21. But IDK about AK.
tinkerbug
http://www.adn.com/crime-justice/article/sentencing-continues-anchorage-teen-who-killed-bicyclist-hit-and-run/2015/08/19/ explains a bit
flyman93
He was most likely referring to underage consumption of alcohol
flyman93
Which can take place after you become a legal adult (18-20 years of age)
IhavenoanusandImustpoop
The article OP linked says she was 18 (legal adult) at the time. Literally the second sentence.
smaug777000
17 during the time of the incident... I think she should be tried as an adult
RaisinZetaJones
No, it says, and I quote "18-year-old Alexandra Ellis". That means 18 at the time of writing. The incident was in 2014, FFS.
CaptainKingfisher
shhh.. never argue with the bandwagon pitchfork mob. Also the sentence is not atypical for the crime.
buffOrpington
Really? 4 months for vehicular manslaughter is typical?
RaisinZetaJones
1st, Alaska doesn't have vehicular manslaughter/vehicular homicide statutes. It's just regular ol' manslaughter. Her charge was negligent
RaisinZetaJones
homicide, which in Alaska is a Class B felony (Manslaughter is class A). Alaskan sentencing guidelines for first time Class B felonies are
RaisinZetaJones
1-3 years. Add in the fact that she was a juvenile at the time, was remorseful to the police, calling herself "horrible" and asking to be
5046
18
MyUsernameOnImgur
Statistics show that women get shorter sentences for the same crimes that men commit, but this is out of the ordinary.
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simonh2000
Wtf are you even saying?
shedooooooooo
Can we not make this one about hating women, please.
supremepooperscooper
In this case it was more about how rich and influential this woman's family was.
WhitePhoenix
But her sex also has a role to play. OP of this comment thread is correct, there's a HUGE sentencing gap between the sexes.
supremepooperscooper
Race and gender may have a role to play. White women are perceived to be more innocent, as compared with woc. However 1/2
WhitePhoenix
White women get shorter sentences than white men. Black women get shorter sentences than black men...
supremepooperscooper
Class status and wealth are better indicators of influence.
sloppyjoeska
Don't wanna ruin her life for MURDERING A PERSON WITH HER WILLFUL NEGLIGENCE
MerToo
No, because then we would have twice as many ruined lives.
Sumpte
So crimes should not be punished because punishment 'ruins lives'? What kind of logic is that?
MerToo
ah, the one minimising the total harm done, especially the bit that was entirely avoidable? How fucked would you like things to end up?
Sumpte
If we took that attitude towards every crime (especially murder), how quickly do you think the occurrences of those crimes would increase?
MerToo
The current attitude doesn't appear to be connected to any decrease, so...not much.
darbdavys
I say, we ruin one, and others may think twice before doing stupid shit like this.
RaisinZetaJones
I'm just going to repeat it since the truth has been downvoted: "MURDERING WITH WILLFUL NEGLIGENCE" is literally a contradiction in terms.
HungLikeHorseFly
If Hillary can get off for criminal negligence....
simonh2000
Screw shillary
spudpicker
I bet you swing at every pitch, even when you're not at bat.
HungLikeHorseFly
It's hilarious watching all the left people get completely upset when you mention anything Hillary or race, I will gladly take the downvotes
spudpicker
Pretty big martyr complex for a spambot. I'm not a Hillary supporter, you're just a dingbat. Post your political crap on Facebook.
HungLikeHorseFly
You seem to be having a reading comprehension issue here, I won't try to explain sense into someone who has none though. Stay mad.
simonh2000
Spambot? Fuck off.
benminja
Ruining her life would be revenge, that won't bring the guy back, and does nothing good for society. So, no.
AbhorrentCasserole
It's not "revenge" if it's carried out by the justice system.
MayaMacskusz
And sand the message to other scumbags: "let's do whatewer you want! Ewen Alexandra walked away from murder!What wrong can happen with you?"
CocktailGaming
If she left the scene, the judge should have added Hit-and-Run.
tinkerbug
The plea deal she took meant that charge was dropped, as far as I've read anyways
BANmeAGAINlive
The judge can't add charges.
CocktailGaming
So, the prosecution?
gettodachopper69
That judge didn't even try to give her a meaningful sentence.
Fluffypaleness
I don't see how her life being "disrupted" trumps the life she ended. That's some bullshit
Angaram
I can't go to jail now, I have a party next sunday.
TurtleTube11
Hell yeah its bullshit
asdfertjryjre
Man, I wish Trump's was the life she ended.
shuttlecockinakumquat
The life she ended can't be disrupted anymore... That post makes no sense.
NotTodayNotYesterday
Let's see if her father writes a letter saying how much she 'suffered' (Brock Turner case)
stevetehpirate
No sense in being a bother. She's only killed a bloke. And he was riding a bike, how much could he matter?
tcooker
It can go both ways. My mom was run over by a Hispanic guy with a list of felonies he committed before he turned 18. He drifted across 1/2
tcooker
the road, hit my mom, and took over 100 feet to stop. He called police and stayed. They claim there was nothing to charge him with. Florida.
Silliosophical
Jesus, fellow/fella-Floridian, I'm so sorry. That's a weird place to be. Good/weird he called/stayed? But he got off? Gah.
Tondalayo25
Isn't this what the judge said about the college rapist that got off super easy cuz they didn't want to ruin his college or something?
EdgelordPrime
I'm getting sick of rich, privileged little fucks committing terrible crimes and getting off over fears of "upsetting" them or whatever.
skelitor120
This was exactly what was wrong with the Stanford Rapist. Media focused more on his sullied reputation than the sullied victim..
FightMeMrTusk
Unpopular opinion, but I think being sent to prison would perpetuate her behavior, not stop it. Ending a life is punishment enough.
FightMeMrTusk
Typical imgur. Actual unpopular opinion is posted and the "disagree = downvote" button is pressed. Enjoy your crime and punishment CJ system
EdgelordPrime
Unless you're a spoiled piece of shit who feels zero remorse, as tends to be the case.
FightMeMrTusk
Did you even read the article? She told on herself and was in shock, saying she's going to hell, crying her eyes out. That's not 0 remorse
EccentricNimoy
Not for her and the rest like her its not. You actually believe those people feel bad for taking another's life? Money and power are 1/2
EccentricNimoy
2/2 God sir, as we all know and there are no morals when it comes to it
FightMeMrTusk
Read the article. She felt fucking terrible for it. Why perpetuate her criminal behavior and issues? Get her real help, not punishment
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
And wouldn't anyone's life be disrupted by going to jail? Isn't that the point of jail?
HumansArePrettyNeat
I gotta say, she's a dirtbag but rehabilitation is more important than prison. That said, she clearly needs monitoring and counselling.
MerToo
Thank you. The obsession with ensuring that offender's lives are also ruined is really not helpful.
JakefromAllstate
People mistakenly equate justice with revenge.
lieutenantLtSmash
So where is the justice for the family of the deceased when the punishment is "we fixed the offenders drinking problem!"
HumansArePrettyNeat
The big misconception with revenge is that it'll somehow lessen the pain of your loss.
N0ticeablyFAT
Agreed. Excessive punishment (and I'm not saying that her sentence is excessive) won't bring anyone back to life, and will only serve as...
N0ticeablyFAT
...vengeance and not punishment. By all means punish her, but don't fuck her over.
EccentricNimoy
Uhm, being sentenced like everyone else would not be fucking her over
sexandotherdrugs
Surprisingly common with 'good white kids' they say shit like prison would do more harm than good and they have so much potential.
ISuperBelieveInYouTadCooper
Looking at you, BROCK TURNER
MagiicHat
Have you seen what a few years will do to a person?
PRGLOKI
Have you seen what a few years in a coffin will do. Tell that to the man she killed.
sexandotherdrugs
I'm not saying that prison fixes problem behaviors (it doesn't). But everyone needs to be held to the same standards, and repercussions.
MagiicHat
Agreed. So giving her the standard sentence for this sort of crime seems fitting.
MagiicHat
(which is about 2 months)
AnythingMuchShorter
Yeah, but it fucks up life for poor and minority kids as well. Never having consequences also fucks you up, in a different way.
MagiicHat
Honestly... Waiting several months and then going to jail is worse than just getting it over with... Speaking from personal experience.
Cjamhampton
I think the important point is that it's these rich white kids that get lighter sentences because of the worry that it would hurt their life
Cjamhampton
And not middle class white kids or black people of any class.
kneeknow8
Donte Stallworth. Money doesn't have color.
InboxMeYourGermanShepherds
I mean, to be fair, who would you give the harsher sentence to? First time, or repeat offender?
Cjamhampton
What does that have to do with anything? If she wasn't rich or was black she would have gotten the sentence she deserved
IOnceOwnedMoonMoonButOnceHeTriedToLickMyBallsAndRanAwayIMissHim
If a first time offender would be a young black guy living in an impoverished part of the town, would you say the same thing I wonder?
IOnceOwnedMoonMoonButOnceHeTriedToLickMyBallsAndRanAwayIMissHim
If a first time offender would be a young black guy living in an impoverished party of the town, would you say the same thing I wonder?
DisorderlyChaos
It's in the articles somewhere: at some point she was released from the mandatory drug rehab so that her and her family could go to the fair
RageCuddles
There was a similar post a while back where a rich kid in Indo ran over 3 people (killed one) and got 4 months in jail. No justice anywhere.
PhunPhact
ThatGifWhereTheGuyThrowsHisPhone.gif
hooktail419
TheLadyNym
God's work.
hooktail419
Hate to break it to ya, but I just used the reaction folders on mobile. It's the first one.
yuyufan43
I typically don't wish bad things to happen to people... But if something awful happened to her, it would be justice deserved.
MaidAndCorsetGuy
For fuck's sake, can't let daddy's little princess go without funnel cake, clowns, and the pig contest.
whatbuttondoipush
She got blue ribbon in pig fucking
mratio
You're thinking of the Iowa state fair, the Alaska state fair has cabbage size weight contests.
chadpendragon
Don't forget our giant f*&%$ing cabbages.
whovianspartans
You're shittin me!? The Fuck?! A FAIR? Like....county fair with corndogs and shit?
plantsy
The carnies are always good for some blow
DisorderlyChaos
http://www.adn.com/crime-justice/article/anchorage-judge-says-alexandra-ellis-heads-jail-may-2-after-she-finishes-college/2016/03/15
alderaanwasaninsidejob
Corndogs and shit...lmao
yuyufan43
Hey, she can't live without her deep friend oreos and twinkies. NOT letting her go would be the real crime!
TheWarSloth
The fair is a pretty big deal in Alaska there is nothing else to do in that intellectual wasteland of a state.
raidleadergutts
Laws are and have always been for The peasants. The rich, the rulers and the enforcers are and will always be above them.
DisorderlyChaos
"Ellis visited the fair for four hours with program counselors, under strict rules."
eyetwitch
"Okay you get ONE cotton candy young lady. This isn't a fun day out"
JustHereForTheWorkStories
And let that be a lesson to you!
SevenMinds
hardly seems fair to me >_>
Iresemblethatremark
I see what you did there.
NachoPete
Yeah, the state fair with turkey legs and shit.
ElbowdeepinElmo
The judge should be fired and the girl should go to prison for at least a year, imo.
earthmasterplanet
/2 Other than having a shitty daughter
brandeehasonetoo
At the very least!
TheGreatAku
Her reckless behavior killed a man. Let's ask that guy's family if a year is enough for that.
earthmasterplanet
Too bad the idiots who raised that little shit dont get any punishment
ElbowdeepinElmo
Meh, kids can get caught up in the wrong area and end up like that, even if they were raised properly. People got their own minds, afterall
earthmasterplanet
Underage though. Eh maybe you're right. Fuck knows
ElbowdeepinElmo
Yeah, kinda tricky situation - comes down to the view on the situation I guess but the judge fucked up.
LochnessMonsterSomeDaysOnly
5 years in 5 years probation 5 years community service....that's less than she deserves. *whispers* death penalty
shuttlecockinakumquat
That's the opposite of what should happen. The judge should be lauded and more sentences should be carried out like this.
ElbowdeepinElmo
I'm going to go ahead and say you're just fucking with people here :>
Chum3
y tho
trinxter
Like a swimmer who gets a short sentence for rape, because it would ruin his life
DisorderlyChaos
exactly
TeenGirlSquad
The perfect couple!
TaintToucher
First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes vehicular rape and possibly a miscarriage
bondirector
Like the life of the victim he ruined :/
njullpointer
except this actually killed somebody. she actually ended their life. not condoning rape, but this is not apples to apples.
Blrp0
It did tho.
deathbonker
Except the part where he didn't rape anyone, idiot.
TeenGirlSquad
Wtf there were witnesses...
AnythingMuchShorter
Stripping an incapacitated person, fingering, and humping their exposed genitals is rape. Maybe less bad than using his penis, still rape.
chuckblues
Instead of being malice over semantics, both are still a violation of a person's rights, u feel better?
AnythingMuchShorter
I'm not "being malice" over semantics. There was physical harm. That's more than just violation of rights.
deathbonker
No actually, that's sexual assault. Be less stupid.
FoundTheSwimmer
Found the swimmer!
OneAngryAssCanadian
found the *rapist
rocklemycockle
I love you
MilesPrower
Hrm? I don't recall this. I need a link, please.
tooindecisiveforausername
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/us/sexual-assault-brock-turner-stanford/
MilesPrower
Also, now I remember this guy. That wasn't why he got a "short" sentence.
tooindecisiveforausername
What do you mean?
MilesPrower
What do you mean what do I mean?
tooindecisiveforausername
Also this-https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.rgrvkwVjL#.nkE8aprQj
MilesPrower
will do.
MilesPrower
Buzzfeed is not a reputable news source. I refuse to click this link. If you wish me to know about its contents, then any reputable source
ISuperBelieveInYouTadCooper
I feel you, but in this case they're just hosting an incredible piece written by the survivor. Highly recommend it.
MilesPrower
Sure, I'll read it.
tooindecisiveforausername
Thanks for backing me up.
MarvinTheManicDepressiveRobot
Remember the affluenza kid?
kim73
Seriously, what can we do to put these trials to justice? Just let it go? Like everyone is complaining but no one is trying to right this.
Silliosophical
Ryan Lochte seems to have a mild case of this affliction
Dingohead
Ryan's just a dickhead American
Silliosophical
He's just a dickhead. Who happens to be an American. No one in America is defending him. We don't love him. He's a stain, a golden joke.
Dingohead
Ok fair call
ThePastry
My moms cousin was one of the people there when it happened. Their kid was in one of the cars that was hit. Pisses me off.
mdperes4
Yah fuck that kid. Nathan Couch. Pisses me off every time I hear about it.
Darkspire
Might be getting some time in jail. http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/us/ethan-couch-affluenza/
Anhabanana
There's a revolutionary new treatment for those who suffer from this, truly debilitating condition
AluminiumFalcon
I volunteer to carry out the sentence.
JaxTeller
No cure for being a cunt
witardedphuc
If she gives me a good bj, I'd be willing to forgive.
JaxTeller
Rule #3: Never stick your dick in crazy.
whofan99
That gif is so satisfying.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
It shall forever be a
whofan99
I've watched it multiple times now.
whofan99
Still watching it.
finninthejakesuit
Anhabanana
This gif tho, gives me an unreasonable amount of enjoyment
DreadJr
I always saw stories about him but never knew what it was about. What did he do?
CaptSumTingWong
Google "Sergio Molina" severe traumatic brain injury on top of paralyzed below the neck, all he CA do is blink his eyes and drool
HoliBug
Illegally driving on a restricted license, speeding, lost control, plowed into a group of people standing near a disabled SUV & struck a...
HoliBug
parked vehicle, there to help. 4 people killed in the crash; 2 passengers in his truck seriously injured & 9 people injured over all.
HoliBug
Forgot to put that he was DUI...but thought maybe that was kind of obvious. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Grungeking
Then, he broke conditions, and him and his mom fled. They were caught in Mexico, sentenced to two years.
brassknucklenerd
Good.
NEClamChowderAVPD
Him and his mother fled to Mexico because pics were posted of him drinking alcohol. No alcohol was part of his condition. Obviously the
NEClamChowderAVPD
Light punishment didn't teach him a damn thing. Surprise, huh? When you have no consequences for your actions, why not keep doing it?
DisorderlyChaos
long story short: 16 y/o drunkenly plows car into group, killing 4 people. Judge gave him 10 year of probation (no prison). "Affluenza"
limved
Right. So coddled he "didn't know better". FUCK that!
Fahargo
I think as a kid they couldn't sentence him for long so they went for 10 years probation expectin he would mess up
KevShaddai
I remember there was a black kid I think around 12, who accidentally killed another kid playing wrestling....he got life.
MolagKenaIsBestGirl
No. No he didn't.
Counterfit
And boy did he ever
getoffmytrain
how so?
getoffmytrain
The Mexico thing right?
Toasterrrr
His mother also tried to smuggle him to mexico.
SmellOfMonkey
Driving illegally and DUI, hit 2 vehicles, injured 9, killing 4. Judge decided that jail wouldn't be best for him so was sentenced to 1/2
SmellOfMonkey
10 years probation with a condition that he attended a substance rehab clinic (though one like the stars go to), and when he hit 2/3
SmellOfMonkey
adulthood he would serve 720 days in jail. He disappeared 2 years after his sentencing and he and his scumbag mother were located at 3/4
DragonPirates
:( SCUMBAG YOU JUST MADE IT 3/4 jk
SmellOfMonkey
a resort in Mexico, he was arrested and sent to prison for 2 years...he's the kind of shit who'll be like Roark Junior all his life 4/4
SometimesISayDumbShit
is she rich or part of an influential family?
tarantularaptor
Make those 74 days supervised work with emts as ridealongs, also lifetime bans from driving for thsi sort of crap
Gorilla76
As someone who works in EMS, I'd rather not have an entitled POS forced to spend time with me.
tarantularaptor
Understandable . Would be nice though to have them deal with firsthand the grief they bring to the family, the doctors and the EMS.
Gorilla76
I think having to work with the families of those affected by DUI related deaths/injuries would be effective. Patient privacy laws, etc
comicreader
The law failed. .. any lawyers here familiar with these types of cases?
Wuz314159
As a cycling advocate. Yeah, this happens too often. Blame the cyclist is the usual M.O. Some places even do Community Service for killing.
907JesseJones
That's what the Defence did here. They blamed the cyclist because he was riding early in the morning, in the correct lame of traffic, 1/2
907JesseJones
and wearing headphones. Granted, headphone wearing is against state law. But not reason to let a murderer walk after a field trip to prison.
tropicanah
Female Ethan Couch
Knivz
Law Office of Maurice N. Ellis 731 I Street Suite 203 Anchorage , AK 99501 Telephone: (907) 258-1239 Fax: 1-800-863-7135
glaug
Did they do something wrong?
PaoloReaper
The same happened here in Chile with a senator's son: The guy killed a person while driving drunk and he's free like nothing happened
stinkonamonkey
Ted Kennedy too.
retgarr
There are lots of people who are neither who have gotten similarly lenient sentences for the same crime.
SometimesISayDumbShit
examples?
retgarr
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39016412&nid=148&title=syracuse-man-pleads-guilty-to-reduced-dui-charge-in-cyclists-death Served 2 months.
finstad4
Shoutout from SLC!
retgarr
Hooray SL,UT!
plzwhateverisokforme
USA wanted to give 100 year of jail to DSK for rape, how she get 2 month? Wtf.
SteelFuelCantMeltBeamJets
Father is a defense attorney and she has a history of substance abuse
fartharder
Well, she is a white girl, so she's got that going for her already. Just add money and it's a done deal.
HandsOffMyCevap
She's white. In Alaska.
Machiavellianism
maybe her full name is Alexandra Ellis rothschild
MastroGeorge
That garbage should rot in prison *sigh*
IHaveAPhrasalUserNameLikeThisOneCauseTheyAlwaysGetTheTopComment
Someone please kidnap her and don't let her go before her family is stripped completely naked from ransom. Then do another trial.
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KeyUnit
I mean she's white..
BednaR
Skin colour doesn't matter here. Family position and money matters...
KeyUnit
I mean it was kind of a joke but only kind of.
lospro7
all of the above
imgursresidentasshole
She's a woman too
Rokbound
And a women
ButterfaceTaintClown
No. She's black.
Stickbot
She's white, a female, and pretty. That's enough i guess
Fatpicasso
she's white.
Rockageddon
Whitegirlmunity: Being of white skin and college age girl makes humans imune to certain laws and regulations.
Amonrob
Rich, white and female privilege.
Hairyballsack
lets close our eyes pretend shes black and leave her in jail to rot. I know that's racist, but i had to prove some points.
absalootru
Must be a Palin
NoImDirtyDan
She's white. It's cool
boobphysicist
she has a vagina
sammichm
Good old democracy
meloncanister
shes also cute.
Sadist90
i believe the suspended sentence answers your question
Bigfatlyingass
Or just white?
Bobdobtherob
Her dad is a judge
BunToaster
Her dad is an attorney, not a judge.
Bobdobtherob
Ah
ironiac55
Fucking called it
baltimohio
She's also white. Which helps.
PapaTimDankopus
..do you mean AFfluential? I don't know.
JetDealer
As an African, I didn't expect to see that in a developed country
azarza
I get the same type of reactions in eastern europe about stories of north america..
newsguycraigevans
In America money buys justice.
SimpleManComplexMind
Uhhh, I think you spelled "anything" wrong...
ZesprasTheDeadAngel
I see what you did there.
humptysorthopedic
broke friend got off ~ light w PubDef. she was drunk & chronic alcoholic. Was emot wreck, guilt. OTHER driver made error. Child died.
chinablue
"underage"
shuttlecockinakumquat
Most people with a decent attorney wouldn't have gotten much more. She had a good case to work the sentencing down.
retgarr
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39016412&nid=148&title=syracuse-man-pleads-guilty-to-reduced-dui-charge-in-cyclists-death Served 2 months.
DisorderlyChaos
I guess what we're learning here is that if you're going to kill some people, do it in a vehicle, be white, and have money.
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
I'm broke. Damn, so close....
retgarr
That guy didn't have money. Looked him up and he has bankruptcy records from about a year before the wreck.
youtalkintome7
You forgot white.
FaceAszKlownn
She might also be a swimmer, for all I know..
opiboble
Judge was a family friend.
welfaretaco
Citation needed please.
opiboble
I live in Anchorage. The Judge lives 3 doors over from the family. I will try and find the article from 2015ish and get back to you.
welfaretaco
Thank you kind sir or maam.
BoomRoatsed
Is this legit? He should be sent to jail too!
TheFailMaster
wait how did that fly for impartiality? I thought anyone close to the person couldn't be involved
TedBrasir
Up to the judge that is sitting on the case to find any personal conflict, etc. Don't agree but that's how it do.
opiboble
^This.
dyingallthetime
Messed up if true. The judge absolutely, legally speaking, should have recused himself. Bottom line.
NotAMeatPopsicle
True, but there are a lot of towns. Ever watch Alaska State Troopers? It's... odd.
NotAMeatPopsicle
*small towns.
AngryBlasian
But they can sue in civil court make the family go broke.
Yellow47
c.f. OJ Simpson and the Brown family...
welfaretaco
Sounds great in theory, not always realistic. Lawsuits cost money. Hard to find a lawyer who does contingency. Trials take years.....
WilliamShatinher
http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tr14AyIe1qak9rko5_500.jpg
FragrantViolation
All depends on how much the guy was expected to earn during the rest of his expected life of 25(?) years.
AngryBlasian
You can also sue based off of cost of life estimation by the Department of Transportation is 6 million and other things too.
FragrantViolation
That's actually fantastic to hear
Tjitso
Is she Dutch? That shit happens all the time over here. And not just for the rich. Usualy just 120 hours community service. Makes me sick.
tijtij
That happens with all types of crimes. At least it will be years until they can get a licence again.
SometimesISayDumbShit
the Dutch have a different mindset when it comes to criminals though, don't they?
RufusTheAardvark
Hug-a-thug?
ooooblackbetty
Sickening
dylan76
She's also a woman, so that helps in the justice system.
Werewolfoflondon
You can become a woman and even that out. Oh, wait, you need a load of money for that...and be willing to give something up!
Sairvous
People seem to be in denial that the justice system is skewed more in favor of women than men. Men statistically do more time(1)
foxfire1112
white women*
Sairvous
(2) in jail and prison than women do for the same crimes committed.
GeorgeGeef
*white woman
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SatoriEnlightenment
What does HIW stand for, please?
ExoticMatter
How
SatoriEnlightenment
Ah. Thanks.
angrierpanda
So much for feminism and equality
PPIIBBSS
...no
TGWeaver
Men and women are (unfairly) treated differently. This is the problem people are attempting to address, even when it favors women.
twoticketstopoundtown
This sounds like the afflunza kid and he was a man so...
AmSaiCo
Sorry about your narrative, though.
AmSaiCo
So what? Women in America traditionally get 40% or less a man's sentence, and are simply convicted a lot less on top of that.
SometimesISayDumbShit
I guess that explains where the wage gap came from
AmSaiCo
Another unrelated issue? And your insertion makes no sense? Are you trying to rabble rouse?
AmSaiCo
I can't tell what side of /that/ argument you're on, but I don't care. It's unrelated.
Casswigirl11
They also commit fewer crimes. But yes, the punishments should be the same as men.
azarza
How would u know they commit fewer crimes? If the court system is so lenient, then society must be as well
AmSaiCo
The punishment has nothing to do with the number of crimes commited. That was very unnecessary for you to add and shows your bias. Also, 1/?
Flyndaran
Sister in law has committed so damn many crimes that would get a man's teeth knocked in AND real jail time. But not her.
Wuz314159
People get off all of the time for killing cyclists. . . It's not the motorist that's important. It's bicyclists who are unimportant.
Canisiel
She's rich, white, and pretty. Her dad is a lawyer. She could get away with murder.
isvara
She might be two of those things.
DisorderlyChaos
She did.
glaug
Vehicular manslaughter isn't murder tho
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glaug
Only if the prosecutor was an idiot -- it would be very hard to show that she perceived and intended to kill the cyclist
YoMTVRapz
Apparently her father is a big time defense attorney.
Zigor22
And judge worth their salt wouldn't give a shit and send her off to jail.
vurcease
http://imgur.com/RG0BS1U
DeathlyHallows415
Very good at his job apparently.
MancrushonThor
Yeah that's the real issue here
Baja2185
This is intentional irresponsibility with a high chance of death. This type of manslaughter should carry the death penalty.
FragrantViolation
No because criminal intent actually matters a lot in criminal cases.
Baja2185
I wasn't trying to kill those kids! I was just drunk swinging my chainsaw around in a daycare!
finstad4
Nice save
Baja2185
I actually typed them at the same time. I anticipated the shit storm... I feel like the principle is the same?
finstad4
Some people are too lazy to open the comment thread
SometimesISayDumbShit
unfortunately the "high chance of death" rarely falls to the perpetrator
Baja2185
Also agreed. It's a sad society we live in
Flyndaran
Sharia, is that you?
Baja2185
So if I start shooting through random windows, and kill someone, and my defense is "sorry bro, I was high" does that absolve me of the crime
laddeao
This kind of thing and rape both. And in cases like this throw the parents and probably the judge in for good measure.
Gelardi
Sounds like you'd fit in nicely in an ISIS controlled city
Weentit
Haha and die a thousand deaths too
Baja2185
Agreed
Tellyb0228
Rich privilege
notthatguybutdefinitelythatguy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bdeizHM9OU
MagiicHat
This is a pretty standard sentence.
bigphatslob
rich lives matter
SometimesISayDumbShit
it already has a term that has been coined :Affluenza. the excuse that being rich has caused a lack of logic that would prevent being an ass
jwhmilne
I like this word
AnythingMuchShorter
But couldn't the stress and limited opportunities of being poor make an even better excuse? Yeah, I know, obviously.
SometimesISayDumbShit
no. being poor means you can't line anyone's pockets or make them give you leniency.
Itsnotlateyet
is she rich or is the world dumb?
Wuz314159
Dead guy was a cyclist. You can kill a cyclist and get off rather easily in America.
GeorgeSmiley
yes and yes
SometimesISayDumbShit
why not both?
Simpo25
Trial by combat! I demand it!!!
TerrenceMckenna
Globgnar!!!
MeatTornadoForAll
Let the claw-plach begin!
NicoleRosieRose
It looks like she already won combat.
DerSubhuman62
I want her to fly!
moreliaviridis
It is your right.
hyuckhyuckhyuck
She'd be able to afford a champion to fight for her though :/
QueLindo
But the combatant the paid fighter will face will be bear.
ChaoticScholar
Who would she be fighting?
WhyNotUncleIroh
We wouldn't allow it. You and only you. Or we feed you to the Lions.
fiddlewheelx
Ironically, she is fighting said Lions.
downofathistle
The cyclist was also high.
sebastionloeb
Rich influential and pretty. She never was gonna serve a full sentence
Gnostici
Lenience on account of semen bag.
RadicalDud
Connected males get light sentences all the time and it's not (usually) for their flesh dildos but because they're WEALTHY... or white.
Gnostici
And women nearly always get paltry sentences whether they're rich or not. It's so deeply rooted that it's taboo to even state the truth.
RadicalDud
Nearly always? Citation needed. Don't just make shit up to bolster your irrational agenda.
ccricers
The blindfold of Lady Justice represents objectivity, without favoring power or wealth. The courts pretty much disregard that statue now.
BumblyWumbly
For everybody saying she isn't pretty, I'm in Anchorage and she's a solid 9 here
GhengisKunt
That's pretty sad man
muddywatersmentalfapsession
I wouldn't say she all that pretty. Just sayin..
RadicalDud
She's average+I don't think looks have anything to do w/ it. Her wealth class & her dad's job and influence are her unfair lifepreservers.
sebastionloeb
Welp who knows, just my opinion
DenverCoderIX
She's pretty ugly and basic tho
retgarr
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39016412&nid=148&title=syracuse-man-pleads-guilty-to-reduced-dui-charge-in-cyclists-death Served 2 months.
MagiicHat
Heaven forbid she serve the average sentence for her crime
SatansLover
She ugly
spankatorium
'Pretty' ... Bitch, please.
JessVette
Frkn fathead fuktard
TemporaryUzername
lolno
maneuvre
I know a rich, white, pretty girl who was charged with attacking an officer when video showed she clearly didn't. The judge ignored the 1
maneuvre
evidence because he said he wanted to teach girls like her a lesson. She's currently appealing, but it has already affected her life.
maneuvre
Just some anecdotal evidence that bad things happen to good people and vice versa
qatersaghira
Not pretty. She's what we'd call a "basic bitch" from the looks of her.
dayglo98
You have low standards lol
sebastionloeb
I said pretty not stunning
Anim8r
We might have different definitions of pretty
Nomulus
She's alright.
ohlongdongjohnson
"Pretty"? You mean basic looking white girl?
ImGladWeHadThisChat
Good enough for old ass judges
pancreas
son, your standard are way too high.
danlundy
she's an Alaska 10
shinjiKuuun
Lol
supremepooperscooper
are there no women in alaska?
TheLoneSithDoge
But a scranton 3
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Mooninites
Lol they down vote this comment but it's just absurd if you think "rich people" whatever that means... freely extort the law on the regular
Mooninites
The more money you make the more rules you have to follow. Duh why do you think you are poor in the first place? It's hard to succeed
Mooninites
But hey all you "poor people" (college students with lots of opinions) feel free to bribe public officials when you finally make it big.
Mooninites
Since that's how you think the system works. You've read a lot of Chomsky so I'm sure you know what your talking about.
gringissimo
OJ was black. Has more to do with money than race.
Flyndaran
California will not convict famous people or cops even with video tapes.
Texas45cal
Oh Please Somebody always has to make it about Race here you can take this http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/btt.gif
Flyndaran
I know. It's not as if racism exists on earth anymore, or that the statistics aren't always corrupted by the Illuminati.
DoctorMantisTobogganMD
Why do you have to exist
kaoz19
It's because of MONEY and POWER that the legal system will go easy on her, it has always been this way, Not the colour of her skin.
PPIIBBSS
What skin color has the vast majority of the wealth and power here? It's not directly about race, but it is a result of institutional racism
kaoz19
if it was a girl of any race who came from a family of money and power the result would be the same. The system is against poor people.
PPIIBBSS
True, my point is that she is much more likely to be born into wealth/power if she is born white, and thats wrong; cuz institutional racism
SometimesISayDumbShit
You bitch. Don't delete your shit because you're getting the dv's
JeriahswillGDP
I hope it becomes more and more unpopular to be a race-baiter, that shit is causing so many issues and its getting really old.
SometimesISayDumbShit
lol always somebody in the crowd that makes it a racial thing when it's just fucked up.
Flyndaran
BECAUSE IT IS, DIPSHIT! Sister in law has not seen jail time despite committing so damn many crimes it makes me sick.
SometimesISayDumbShit
this is a racial thing? it's not about her being from a rich, influential family? really, dipshit?
WinterWarrior420
They White peopled the shit out of that for her.
IAmAGoodPerson
They riched people the shit out of that for her*
myglassesarebiggerthanyours
They rich white attractive female peopled the shit out of that for her*
IAmAGoodPerson
No. Just rich. OJ got away with murder. It's what class you are in. Not race
myglassesarebiggerthanyours
Not that I agree with you, but do jokes often fly completely over your head?
deathbonker
Nope, white people go to jail less because they commit crime less.
myglassesarebiggerthanyours
Nope.
deathbonker
"Nope" doesn't change facts.
myglassesarebiggerthanyours
What facts? The invisible ones you provided? My bad, I didn't see them on account of the invisibility.
NotHellmanns
No they dont. They commit less violent crime
deathbonker
Touche.
iuploadbearpics
Black rich people don't do jail time either *cough*OJSIMPSON*cough*
Fatpicasso
Oh so this white girl is a celebrity?
Ihazcheeseburger
Michael Jackson *cough* Bill Cosby *cough* Kobe Bryant *Cough*... It goes on.
Fatpicasso
These are all celebrities, i didn't know this white girl was a celebrity
iuploadbearpics
The point that flew over your head is MONEY. Even poor celebrities don't skip jail time. Stop race baiting.
SometimesISayDumbShit
what does that even mean?
WinterWarrior420
you do not get the reference then.
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
I didn't get the reference and still got the reference :p
TK421isAFK
It means that she can't even, so she doesn't have to.
marcra
It's from suicide squad
DisorderlyChaos
yes and yes
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Drakenborn
Alright well it's not a contest. They're both pieces of shit that should have gone to prison immediately.
wolfpreist
#greenprivilege
nikseen
What a coincidence!
Michealbay
Poor pieces of shit like us had it coming when we ride bicycle.
agermanguy
What year is it ? 1200 ? Is she supposed to marry the king of burgundy ?
Frogapus
imgurisEasilyOffended
I really wouldn't say she's from an important family. Her dad is a rich lawyer here. No one in our class knew who she was till she was gone.
JudgmentTrout
(Two of two) how terrible u r is better than any length of jail sentence. Hopefully she changes her heart despite Any amount of money/time
Thisismyusernamenotyoursitsmine
There's your explanation
testedonsheeeep
you have no idea how hard it is to be young white girl. The system is rigged.
JudgmentTrout
(One of two messages) Even if she is a part of a rich family. She can still feel true remorse like us poor folk. True knowledge of
Viennha
Well there you have it
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
AkLonewolf
What a bunch of epic Fuckery. Shit like this happens in Ketchikan as well.
TriplekillOgrekillShrekstermination
Then what are you upset about? Laws don't apply to them
binkythe900ftcarrot
i don't see a problem then. capitalism that has rid itself of any hint of solidarity - it is what people want, apparently
DVSBSTrD
That must be why poor little Sarah Palin ran away from being governor. Couldn't handle the corruption *sarcasm*
SonsOfiFap
Ha, the rich kid at our school who thought he was the shit got his tires slashed every time for calling kids niggers
SonsOfiFap
And I'm talking about 19 sets throughout the year haha
galactictaco
You'd think that after the...5th...maybe 6th time that he would start parking somewhere else and maybe just walk the rest of the way.
RawrImReallyNotGoodatThis
This is probably going to get downvoted but sometimes people just need to get the shit kicked out of them. Like her parents... bad...
LongtimeLurker148
Wow
NopeHunter
So we should just assassinate her
Knivz
Law Office of Maurice N. Ellis 731 I Street Suite 203 Anchorage , AK 99501 Telephone: (907) 258-1239 Fax: 1-800-863-7135
PuddingSkin
Law offices always wear expensive suites. MAIL THEM GLITTER!
Knivz
I like the glitter idea
tangripper
.
ReeseMisee
Everyone go fuckem up.
RaisinZetaJones
For what, you fucking psycho? Being a lawyer? Representing a client? Having a child who broke the law, like all parents of criminals do?
RaisinZetaJones
Oh goody, a witch hunt. She was a juvenile when the crime occurred and she pleaded guilty, so you're going to target her father. That's sane
aksteelers907
Her father is friends with the judge who basically got her out of trouble. I know because I live in Alaska.
RaisinZetaJones
And?
Knivz
I like the glitter idea
RaisinZetaJones
Sending glitter to her father who, I might note, was not her attorney. Because of an action his juvenile daughter took. Ok.
ADMIN1337
Fuck that bitch, life will get back at her
newsguycraigevans
Affluenza strikes again!
TheOneThatGotBanned
Thats sick :( the system is broken.
Intelletc
HellomynameisSatan
Well there it is .gif
Jacxy
Well, I'd go to jail for 74 days to fix this...
weeshful
is she related to johnny elis?
donkeymoney
She looks like Palin's daughter.
SendMeNoots
Oh. Well that combined with being female literally means she can get away with murder.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Or not? Remember the HS football players who filmed the rape of a classmate and had the entire county's sympathies? This (1)
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Is not a gendered issue, it's a status or class issue. (2/2)
QuaintTaint
Got* She already got away with murder.
glaug
Vehicular manslaughter isn't murder tho
QuaintTaint
She got away with killing someone by illegal and downright ridiculous choices/actions of her own. Does it fit the legal description of
STINKPICKEL
This is NOT about Hillary, please stay on subject. Rich little Alaskan Daddy's girl.
Bergeldergle
Yup. Just look a Hillary. Pretty much the same situation.
Manpigbear
youd think they could afford anti retard medicine
Angaram
Being rich is nearly like a "Get out of Jail" card
MrAwesomesauce101
Bail is usually set too low for rich criminals and too high for poor people.
Reigekiz
Aslo White?
yeekee
Fuck this shit. Fuck it, leave a fake # and never call it again
TheYellowOne
shanky shank the rich bitch
gnarledhalo
It's shit like this that makes me think the U.S. should go Lord of Flies style French Revolution.
ohforcryingoutloudisthistaken
Ahahahah you guys are so fucked if you don't stop this.
ohforcryingoutloudisthistaken
Sincerely, all of Europe
dragonraven13
Or have a Purge.
ClockWork2011
Crush Obamas head with a big rock?
TedBrasir
That's really cleaver. Also, any violent threat to POTUS is a federal offense. You may hear from the US Secret Service.
ClockWork2011
Yes because America is the only country on the planet therefore it's laws apply everywhere.
ClockWork2011
Plus that's the only part I remember from Lord of the flies.
ub3rwarrior
https://media.giphy.com/media/1FnPDkhFZDgoU/giphy.gif
Blondike
She must suffer from affluenza
EldrithNV
Effluent scum!
TheOriginalBigDave
Did you go to Hampton Roads in Newport News?
Blondike
No I didn't.
iiGEMINIii
Uh, do you live in WV and are my next door neighbour? Is that you? For serious though....is this you?
Blondike
Nooo. I'm very close to WV though in VA.
DakotaLDE
Do you watch the PDS too?
Blondike
I'm not sure. I heard it from a case in DC not too long ago.
DakotaLDE
Oh okay. Just asking since Philip Defranco makes jabs at that kid now and then still.
MERGATROYDER
Affluenza ='s White.
SkiMaskThePlumpGod
Yeaaaaa... Not where I'm from. Seems most "affluenza" people are white but not all white have "affluenza". Affluenza is bullshit either way
Blondike
It's not really necessary to put a "'s" after an = sign.
Hurrburrt
Oh well that's different. Rich people have different laws than us pond scum. Of course she got off easy.
FeloniousDrunk101
I only consider you scum a-compared to Krusty!
disinfectantrum
And deservedly so. Rich people are just plain better than us. He probably had it coming anyway. Fucking poor piece of trash. Good riddance.
zhukoz
And who the fuck rides a bike? Unless you're some kind of lowlife lol '
disinfectantrum
Right?
MantisToboganMD
Apparently you can be so rich that you dont understand murder is wrong and that excuses you from killing people
zhukoz
She was tired and emotional (and drunk/hig) How was the poor lil princess supposed to know what she was doing
UnPossibleMagician
I think that's the premise to The Purge.
ectopunk
I was reading this thread like "Pick Your Own Adventure"-style, and was brutally disappointed.
OrangeRhymer
One day I hope to achieve the pond scum rank. Right now I have to settle for being plaque on the teeth of feral animals
MitchBeaucannon
The cynicism is strong with this one.
SuitsandExplosives1
I love how everyone looks for some scapegoat. It's pathetic. And besides it's the expensive lawyers, not different laws
dovahsevobrom
"different laws" it's figurative
xYouKnowNothingx
I is pond scum
HellomynameisSatan
Us huddled masses are beneath them I say!
drfarren
We're not pond scum, we're the plebeians.
ImJustADinosaur
Rich lil bitch had to have her daddy help her because shes a special little princess and she did nothing wrong. Spoiled piece of shit.
WARHAMMER405
That's why vigilante justice still exists. When injustice becomes law rebellion becomes duty.
Okiedokieartichokie7
Nice and tidy, I like it
QuadrilateralEnix
Are you trying to say we need to sic Batman on a rich teenaged girl?
Tyrannoswolusflex
We need the Coon
CaptSumTingWong
I believe this meets Dexter's "code"
CaptSheffield
Tsk,tsk. In this day and age just the thought will put you away for yrs. You're better off backing into someone.
Talonotw
Vote for Hillary!
imgursmyfirstluv
Lol
tiancaiz
at least she got some form of sentence that'll stick to her records. In my country the rich and influential don't get sentenced for dui.
cococreamcheese
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GeorgeSmiley
what country?
tiancaiz
Indonesia
dch9
Add that with she's pretty and white. Surprised she even got 2+ months.
obamahasmytv
It's the rich part, not the white part. If she was ethnic and was still rich it would be the same result
dch9
Money does play a role, that's correct. Acting like her being white doesn't definitively play a role is being extremely naive.
RollyPollyGiraffe
Depends on the judge and the state. It would be a bit worse, probably, but still way better than we plebs get.
inferiredivivus
Google Robert H. Richards IV, prepare to be disgusted beyond all belief.
MitchBeaucannon
Ha! Their family motto: "Stand upright". Looks like he was only fulfilling his family duty!
MitchBeaucannon
"A.G. Beau Biden later defended the sentencing of Richards to probation." And I thought Biden was one of the good guys…
SamuelArk
Whoa whoa whoa, pond scum? Way worse guy. Ill have no man insist on my value. That's for the leaders, like this good kind lady. Watch it pal
HellomynameisSatan
I like the cut of your jib bud.
SamuelArk
What did I just say pal. I won't stand for this.
orgeezuz
LUXURY!!! We didn't have a pond; me, my parents, my 26 brothers and 21 sisters all lived in a puddle
noblespaceplatypus
A PUDDLE?! we had to save up just to look at the puddle! what us living in spittle and all
HavelTh3Rock
I'm not your pal, buddy
BeeHundred
For all those interested: this goes on. And on.
AquaLeaderArchie
I'm not ur buddy guy
CatBlaster5000
Your sarcasm is beautiful.
thisisnotenoughyet
Almost believed him.
SamuelArk
Hey now. I don't appreciate that kind of talk. You ought ta tone that kindness down. Save it for the great and powerful overlords haleluamen
IBlowForALiving
You're beautiful.
gringissimo
Welcome to the USA, where if you're rich, you don't pay!
ArchNisse
Well I guess that is exactly what they do. So broken system though it seems :( (not from the US)
Awesomo123
Oh strange... I thought usa is the democratic paradise with freedom and rights where milk and honey float...nope chuck testa it's corrupt af
SpaceCub500
Yup. And we're the only country where people with money and power get preferential treatment
ReptilianOverlord
lol really? That's how the entire world works, it's just more out in the open here in the U.S. and people don't give a fuck
mikeyMN
Good god how did everyone miss that he was being sarcastic?
pancrazio
No. But see, when you talk a lot of freedom, people from the rest of the world start having expectations.
gringissimo
Ah. You inferred a comparison with other countries, I never mentioned them.
iamnotfromexico
I think there's like 30 country's more where you can do that
Wynrel
France also. Guy hides millions in fiscal paradises and does not suffer anything. Women kills her abusing husband, gets 10 years.
ThatGirlWhenTheMusicsOver
Welcome to the world!!!
SometimesISayDumbShit
well that explains it. rich people get away with ALOT of shit because they have money and can line pockets of judges/politicians
looseasamoose
Mostly hiring a lawyer who can do their job & also having a potentially bright future instead of 12 previous convictions
Shauzia
Look at Brock Turner (may he be burned at the stake)
Shasfowd
Stuff like this pissed me off. I come from a wealthy family and I hope I never get away for doings something like this.
SometimesISayDumbShit
firstly, I hope you never find yourself in a situation that would lead to this. and secondly, need an extra brother? I volunteer as tribute!
BatsuitsNipples
A family with resources can also ruin the judge's reputation
AmorphousPorpous
But elected judges are a good thing guys, for reasons.
zhukoz
Yeah I've always thought that was a paticularly fucked up aspect of the American system. Hanging judges, anyone?
SargentSarcasm
Buckle up buckaroo
theangrypunk
Look at hillary
Baldylox81
And Trump, how can you bankrupt 3 businesses and still be considered a billionaire. Oh yeah he has the tax payers pay for it. We're screwed
QuadrilateralEnix
Well, he does own like 500 businesses, so his success rate is still much higher than the national average, so there's that.
SometimesISayDumbShit
and all those fuckers that broke the economy in the housing market thinking it couldn't fail. ONE out of hundreds went to jail. fucking BS
RandyMarshThoughtThisWasAmerica
Ted Kennedy killed someone and didn't even get charged if I remember correctly.
TedBrasir
As a combat vet, USMC O-3, you cannot"support the troops" & vote Trump w/out being willfully ignorant of the facts, in re VA healthcare, etc
TedBrasir
Hey so did W. Bush AND his wife. Plus both W&trump convientily avoided Nam. Kennedy served in WWII. As a vet this upsets me.
SometimesISayDumbShit
I am sure there are MANY rich folks that have gotten away with a lot of stuff. we common folk just don't hear about it.
MagiicHat
Or just hiring a lawyer that knows his shit. No shady business required.
Biocide669
More likely a team who overload the prosecutor.
ChickenFingerFingers
My wife's co-worker's wife recently quit at a law firm because she was tired of helping people like this.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Yes if you look in a prison I would wager well over half of them in there couldn't afford a decent lawyer. They relied on a public defender.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
And most of the time the public defender didn't even ask about a plea deal. Same office that pays the prosecutor pays the public defender.
Big8ooty8iches
"Your honor she couldn't have possibly avoided the accident because she was faded. Ever driven faded b4? shits tuff yo" "free2go" "tnx bb"
WarrioRx83
Having a good lawyer should not mean you can do what you want, but goes to show you money can buy anything
MagiicHat
No... it means you get sentenced to the letter of the law.... She didn't get off scott free, she got a sentance in line....
Drakenborn
There shouldn't be a lawyer alive capable of pulling this shit. People can be exceptional at what they do and still have moments that (1/2)
MagiicHat
What do you mean exceptional? Couple months is standard for DUI/Biker death. There's precedent to follow here.
Drakenborn
Are completely outside of their ability to do anything. It's obscene though that where the rich are concerned suddenly the law becomes murky
Evulsockmonkey
This is true, my wife works in the justice department, it only takes one mistake to completely throw a case like this.
zhukoz
Yeah, $2000/hr can go a fair way lol
OneZebraInAHerdOfWildebeests
Oh honey, you think that the lawyer doesn't know how to get the judges pockets filled?
MagiicHat
Oh honey, you think the judge decides who is guilty? You need to read up on your law.
CaptSheffield
Pls.
MoparGoVroomVroom
Nothing shady about helping a guilty person walk free...
robthelob20
Lawyers are ethically obligated to get the best outcome for the client, guilty or not. They can be disbarred for not respecting that
cbh3
When money is there. Lawyers can make anything look good. Aka that rapist count!
GoBlue
That's literally a defense attorney's job
MagiicHat
Say what you will, but this same aspect is what keep the innocent from rotting in jail cells.
BreadInCaptivityBakery
Her father is a defense prosecutor. I believe that explains a bulk of it.
idownvoteplottwist
Putting aside OP's case, there are degrees of guilt. There's nothing malevolent for arguing the fine points for your client.
rubbarz
Ever seen "Better call Sul"?
prawnklng
A lawyer is a professional liar.
carolinaguuurl
Bullshit
linkshacker89
Hey fuck you. Legal ethics bar attorneys from lying. Your statement is akin to saying all cops kill black people, or all priests rape kids.
MagiicHat
Some, sure. Most are just being paid to keep honest folks from getting screwed.
QuamilThePlotter
A lawyer is your only defense against a corrupt system. Sometimes shitty people go free, but that's better than good people in cages.
TedBrasir
Ignorance of someone who knows 0 about law or US Constitution. I've worked prosecution & defense, my job is to uphold Constitutional rights