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The Black Knight Satellite
Black Knight also known as the Black Knight satellite is an alleged object orbiting Earth in near-polar orbit that ufologists and fringe authors believe is approximately 13,000 years old and of extraterrestrial origin. It’s claimed that Nikola Tesla picked up a repeating radio signal as early as 1899 which he believed was coming from space. The satellite explanation originated in 1954 when newspapers including the St. Louis Post Dispatch and the San Francisco Examiner ran stories attributed to UFO researcher Donald Keyhoe saying that the US Air Force had reported that two satellites orbiting the Earth had been detected. At this time no man-made satellites had been launched.
In February 1960 there was a further report that the US Navy had detected a dark, tumbling object in an orbit inclined at 79° from the equator with an orbital period of 104.5 minutes. Its orbit was also highly eccentric with an apogee of 1,728 km (1,074 mi) and a perigee of only 216 km (134 mi) At the time the Navy was tracking a fragment of casing from the Discoverer VIII satellite launch which had a very similar orbit. It was later claimed that the dark object was simply another part of the casing that was assumed lost.
In 1973 the Scottish writer Duncan Lunan analyzed the data from the Norwegian radio researchers, coming to the conclusion that they produced a star chart pointing the way to Epsilon Boötis, a double star in the constellation of Boötes. Lunan's hypothesis was that these signals were being transmitted from a 12,600 year old object located at one of Earth's Lagrangian points. An object photographed in 1998 during the STS-88 mission has been widely claimed to be this "alien artefact". People analyzing these pictures have claimed that it could be the Pakal Spacecraft, a supposed Mayan spacecraft written about by Erich von Daniken.
Thanks to eftwyrd & Konoton for reminding me of this one.
Zigmund Adamski
Adamski set out to get some potatoes at 15:30 on June 6, 1980. The next day he was due to attend a family wedding, which he was much looking forward to. His body was found five days later in Todmorden next to a railway line on the afternoon of Wednesday June 11 at 15:45 by Trevor Parker, the son of the owner of the Tomlin's coal yard. The yard had not been used since 11 o' clock that morning, and the body had not been seen at that time; Parker had arrived at 08:00. At 16:10 a police officer, Alan Godfrey, attended the scene, with a colleague. On examination, it was found he had died of a heart attack and had peculiar burns on his neck and shoulders.
His clothes were in good condition although the shirt was removed. He had not attended any hospitals in the missing five days and had only been on the anthracite a few hours before he was found. It appeared that neither had he slept rough in the intervening days and he had been eating healthily, and that no struggle had taken place. The post mortem was carried out at 21:15 in Hebden Bridge by Dr Alan Edwards, a consultant pathologist at the Royal Halifax Infirmary. He found that Adamski's death took place between 11:00 and 13:00 that day. The burn on his neck had been there two days before his death, and had had a peculiar ointment applied that forensic scientists could not identify. There was some deliberation over the cause of his death as his death was not registered until the autumn of 1980. The coroner was James Turnbull.
Connections with UFOs
The policeman who found Adamski, Alan Godfrey, would claim to have had an encounter with a UFO six months later, on 28 November at 5:00 on Burnley Road (A646) in Todmorden, as he was driving his car on duty. This was one mile from the coalyard. He could not account for fifteen minutes of his time. Under hypnosis with assistance from Manchester-based MUFORA in 1981, he claimed he had been abducted.
Thank you to CheshireCats for suggesting this one.
The Case of Elisa Lam
n February 2013, this 21-year-old student from Vancouver, Canada, was found dead inside the Cecil Hotel’s rooftop water tank in Los Angeles. The L.A. County Department of Coroner ruled the death “accidental due to drowning” and said no traces of drugs or alcohol were found during the autopsy. However, there is much more to the story than what is implied by police reports. The first piece of evidence that needs to be considered is an elevator surveillance tape that recorded Elisa’s behavior only a few moments before she lost her life.
The four-minute video shows Elisa pressing all of the elevator buttons and waiting for it to move. Seeing that the elevator doors are not closing, starts behaving extremely bizarrely. At first, Elisa enters the elevator and apparently presses all of its buttons. She then waits for something to happen but, for some reason, the elevator door doesn’t shut. She starts to look around, as if she is expecting (or hiding from) someone. At 1:57, her arms and hands start moving in a very strange matter (almost not human) as she appears to be talking to someone, something … or nothing at all. She then walks away. The elevator door then shuts and appears to start working again. Right after the events of the video, Elisa apparently gained access to the rooftop of the hotel, climbed to its water tank and, somehow, ended up drowning in it. Her body was found two weeks after her death, after hotel guests complained about the water’s taste and color.
Seeing the surveillance footage, most people would conclude that she was under the influence of drugs. However, Elisa did not have a history of drug use and her autopsy concluded that no drugs were involved. When one looks at the context and the circumstances of this death, things become even more mysterious. The Cecil Hotel has a morbid reputation as it has become notorious for numerous suicides and murders, as well as lodging famous serial killers.
http://youtu.be/3TjVBpyTeZM
Thank you harmonicm for bringing this one to my attention.
UVB-76
UVB-76, also known as The Buzzer, is the nickname given by radio listeners to a shortwave radio station that broadcasts on the frequency 4625 kHz. It broadcasts a short, monotonous  buzz tone, repeating at a rate of approximately 25 tones per minute, for 24 hours per day. On very rare occasions, the buzzer signal is interrupted and a voice transmission in Russian takes place. Frequently, distant conversations and other background noises have been heard behind the buzzer, suggesting that the buzzing tones are not generated internally, but are transmitted from a device placed behind a live and constantly open microphone. It has been active since at least the late 1970s or early 1980s, when the first reports were made of a station on this frequency. Its origins have been traced to Russia, but although several theories with varying degrees of plausibility exist, its actual purpose remains unknown to the public.
http://youtu.be/YNKBhLigysU
Thanks goes to SometimesAUserNameIsRelevantButInThisCaseItIsNot for reminding of this one.
Part 1 - http://imgur.com/gallery/rv2JW
Part 2 - http://imgur.com/gallery/dBHZ3
Part 3 - http://imgur.com/gallery/IWGYP
Cryptid Edition - http://imgur.com/gallery/uBxO7
Part 5 - http://imgur.com/gallery/YAfDK
I am currently working on ideas for future lists. So far the topics I have are:
Creepy Cryptids You May Not Know
Most Terrifying Alleged Hauntings
Amazing UFO Encounters
Largest Objects In The Universe... that we know of.
I'm always open to suggestions. So if you have any, send them my way and I'll do my best.
Mooselover2000
Don't forget D. B. Cooper!
slitherlitter
Every time I read the name Erich von Daniken my willingness to suspend disbelieve and be interested in the matter at hand, takes a nosedive.
Cryotechnic
Amazing. I was reading part three, went back to look at part one again, and there was a new part four done! I love you, OP!
crihsagnlel
I did this too!
catmonger
The Moth Man
Shrebs
This post, I like it.... http://imgur.com/HqnEPKk
shuttl3cock
I've seen enough Independence Day to know where #1 is going.
leumasmc
Definitely a spy satellite. They sit in low polar orbit to get full coverage of the earth. Probably an onyx or lacross class.
rockosawesomelife
Any Skeptics on Imgur? Id love to see this same post with the real explanations but Im a man of little time.
RoboLuddite
The black knight is easy. It's self contradictory, so... a few mundane unrelated things tied together to sound like one story?
Chooselife
The Elisa Lam video is creepy as fuck.
CheshireCats
My dad also used to stick glowsticks to frisbees and throw them past alan godfreys house while whistling the x-files theme.
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
Seeing the Black Knight, I won't be able to take any of these seriously.. do your homework OP
Spacekebab
The satellite is obviously the Black Omen from Chrono Trigger. Mystery solved. http://imgur.com/kY0OhSL
IllegalDuckling
Holy shab, it actually looks like that..
thisisthebesticouldowithouthaspacebar
Case closed. Spacekebab for President 2016.
Spacekebab
If elected, I vow to defeat Queen Zeal, and bring democracy to all the timelines
Choward
Favoriting so I can solve all of these later
SplashAndDash
@ConspiracyTheory where you at
Veit
Most of these have known and documented explanations. The Black Knight, for example, just isn't real.
nachtgeist
Hey! Don't let facts get in the way of a good story!
RoboLuddite
That black knight one just annoys me. It sounds like several different incidents that have been smooshed together to make it seem bigger.
FartHealthy
Could you do one where the mysteries were eventually solved/explained?
mburicao
mys·ter·y1 ˈmist(ə)rē/ noun noun: mystery; plural noun: mysteries something that is difficult or impossible to understand or explain.
2058183443
You mean almost every single crime show around? or 60 minutes?
noppatoppa
Here: http://skeptoid.com/
noppatoppa
Most of these from the four parts are explained.
MajinMochi
Anybody know what the messages are saying in English for the The Buzzer?
Dogeborn
I'm not sure, but I hear him saying some russian names like Dmitri and Mikhail.
sissichu
And they most likely meant letters. Like Dimitri = D Mikhail = M.
IPutTheLaughterInManslaughter
I'll request this, too. I need the translations.
schrau
From what I remember, the voice transmissions are just sequences of numbers and names.
KawaiiPotatoGirl
Check out Wikipedia.
andthentheresthatguy
Did no one try to get close to that black knight satellite? one of the spaceshuttles could have investigated...
FrustratedBluffing
It's a fairing/thermal blanket from a failed 20th century polar spy satellite.
SkypeOfCthulhu
NASA theory is that it is a thermal blanket used in a payload that was lost from a previous mission.
Beepity
Since re-entered if it'd been in that orbit for 12,000 years. Atmospheric drag at perigee would've slowed it down enough.
ajizzle
NASA generally doesn't take unnecessary risks, the soviets on the other hand
bamfgunnar
In soviet russia...
Beepity
Which (because rocket science) is MUCH easier to get to/from than a 79° 1,728 kmx216 km orbit. Although, the Black Knight would've long
MrBananaBeak
$$$$$ man. No one is going to spend that money to investigate what is almost certainly space junk.
andthentheresthatguy
Stupid, greedy, stingy humanity
MrBananaBeak
I don't know man I would be pissed if they used my money on it. It's just space junk.
bamfgunnar
Let's fly the ISS to it.
FisterMantastic
That is what I was thinking.
andthentheresthatguy
Sneaky OP is hiding something...
Robvp
Hiding the fact that there are scientific explanation for the cases
andthentheresthatguy
..or that OP is responsible for everything...
Beepity
The orbit isn't one that the space shuttle was capable of attaining. It could barely get to and return from a 420x423km 51.65 degree orbit,
FrustratedBluffing
It's a thermal blanket/fairing (can't recall which) from a spy satellite that failed.
perfectlyadequateusername
I've just read all four posts. .. Now I'm too scared to go outside to bring the washing in.
HackerJacker
If it helps, you aren't any safer in the house...
clarad001
Fuck you. I'm mote scared now
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
I read this one right before bed. Fuck it. Who needs sleep.
rollroundinthetoilet
At least you don't have to worry about iocane powder.
M1nusBlindfold
It's late but at least I'm drinking coffee.
noppatoppa
Helps if you look beyond: http://skeptoid.com/ For example the Black Knight is easily explained.
thirddegreeBURNS
samzies. not feeling so good about being alone now.
tipples
The Elisa Lam one is just sad. She was known to have bipolar disorder. It's one thing to say "Ooo frogs in rocks!"; this was likely a (1)
treathugger
It is really sad. I think it is eerie though. Why didn't the elevator close? How did she get into the water tank? etc...
tipples
It's not "eerie" except that a troubled woman died. Elevators malfunction, especially if you hit lots of random buttons. Storage areas (1)
tipples
are frequently left unlocked by accident. Christ, a dude died in a SEA WORLD tank two years ago. Three peace activists got into a (2)
tipples
nuclear reactor site recently. I used to climb on my high school roof through a window.
kamisan
Also, unless you can see something I can't shes not necessary actually hitting the buttons. Definitely close too them though
tipples
very sad case of a mentally ill person suffering a psychotic break and committing suicide. It's disgusting that a 'horror' movie is (2)
tipples
being made about this young woman's death. She had a family, and they were devastated. (3)
BadKitteh
This. There wasn't anything paranormal in it for me. Just a young woman and a malfunctioning elevator.
PraiseMelora
It looked like she was trying to get the elevator to work. Her going out of the elevator looked like she was looking for assistance.
JokersDollFace
I didnt believe UVB-76 till a few years ago a buddy turned my CB on in the boat and showed me. kinda creepy
ninmonkey
Probably a troll, messing on the radio.
Jaywire
Sorry, you absolutely cannot reach 4mhz with a CB radio.
BabiesDippedInFondue
Fallout taught me that I need to follow the signal to begin a quest.
AStainlessSteelRat
So what brand of CB is it you have that can tune 20MHz below its design frequency? That's a pretty neat trick.
p34ce
What I was thinking.
ChuckNorrisAteMySock
Most of the things said on UBV-76 are names, which the Russian military uses like we use Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, and so on. (1)
ChuckNorrisAteMySock
I have heard them use the names Dimitri, Nikolai, and Konstantin before (among other things).
fashionyourseatbelts
It has been possible to tune in to the UVB-76 frequence in certain parts of Finland. Not sure if it's the case anymore.
AStainlessSteelRat
The frequency can be tuned in anywhere. Actually hearing the station depends on a HUGE amount of factors. Time, distance, sunspots, etc, etc
thegr8rambino
I think its to automatically launch nukes incase russia is attacked or something
huanthewolfhound
Hasn't it been turned off now?
captaincabbage
I watched the video link of this and at about a minute in I thought "Damn, this numbers station was definitely made in the '70s!" I am a dum
foxtrotcorsair
I heard about it when I was reading Wired a few years ago. http://www.wired.com/2011/09/ff_uvb76/
SergeantDestroy
Thanks for the read! :)
JXZtheGamer
For more about creepy russian radio stations, see: "russian woodpecker" and "the pip". russians really like weird radio stations.
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
commenting for later. have an upvote.
rg001
They also have extremely powerful broadcasting capabilities.
chansuke
It is most likely some form of 'numbers station'. There are several around the world, most likely tied to spying and other stuff.
jrbickers
numbers stations, quite possibly my favorite thing about fallout 3 :D
darxide
Number stations give me the jibblies and I can't explain why. They are exceedingly creepy.
NwabudikeMorgan
I think they're awesome, since they're for spies, and spy shit is rad.
chickencookiescluckcluckfatboy
Not just rad, but fuckin' hella rad.
earwaxx
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ImaSwiffernotamop
I literally snorted and laughed out loud. This is perfect.
interestingindeed
WE HAVE TO GO BACK, JACK,
Donnicton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua94OV9Ter8
stutteringbob
Wouldn't it be beyond nuts if that was the next winning lotto ticket? You randomly picked it and put it on a website, instead of buying one
earwaxx
Probably even now like a million other people would have those numbers.
Griffy11
It's not random.
Konoton
What do the numbers mean, Mason?
chansuke
I actually liked the story to BlOps. But then again, thriller intrigue is my favorite genre, I buy lots of it for my kindle.
Konoton
I had nothing against Black Ops either. I still prefer to play the MW2 Multiplayer though.
chansuke
Yeah, the multiplayer was not my thing, I really didnt put much time into it.
LadyWidebottom
I've heard that it's most likely a station tied to the East Russian military operations, and that they are just broadcasting (1/2)
Lexsteel11
(2/2) hardcore Russian donkey porn
LadyWidebottom
orders and movements to various factions. (2/2)
chansuke
That is the most probable explanation. There is speculation it may also be tied to the 'Dead Hand' nuclear system.
LadyWidebottom
Yes, I like that theory very much, but a lot of people discredit it.
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
commenting for later. have an upvote.
z0de
"after hotel guests complained about the water’s taste and color."
whoaEthan
I actually cringed at that.
demodexinyoeyes
According to wikipedia it was low water pressure they complained of.
ninmonkey
There was a hotel that had a corpse in the water tower. No joke.
MrFastZombie
Yes, we just read about that.
581685488765122003584984651222151216854658161
MRW I read that sentence :
BrownMagikk
My only goal, as of today, is to not have my eulogy start with "set out to get some potatoes"
jaimed
hahahah
TheViralizer
Zigmund Adamski is Russel Edgington ^,..,^
Ninjinister
In line with UVB-76, do please do one on unexplained broadcasts (numbers stations, signal jammings, the Max Headroom incident). I love those
bamfgunnar
WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBERS, MASON?
glasscaseofemotion
Max Headroom!! Good on. I had forgot about that.
mithgaladh
what about the reddit explication of that incident? Seems plausible.
Dez1013
I wish I could give you more upvotes. The Max Headroom incident is awesome.
super6
I got a mystery. My ex wife just bought a new car and bruno mars tickets but told the judge she has no money. explain that
SittinSamTheSaychetMan
Aliens
mazing3
she had money, but doesnt anymore
ProcrastinateurParExcellence
Your wife's a bitch.
sevnone
It's been a whole since I laughed out loud. Thank you dude.
CountEjacula
spooky af
AssamLaksa
She has a sugar daddy.
KlaatuBaradaMumbleMumble
She bought a car and Bruno Mars tickets.
super6
yup
takeyourtopoffJen
Dude, that Elisa Lam video creeped me out. Why the heck would she move her hands around like that? Can anyone say Overlook Hotel?
BadKitteh
It wasn't creepy at all. It looks like she's just trying to trigger the door to close and getting frustrated that it's not working. (1/2)
guitardemigod
Apparently, "The Black Dahlia" murder also took place in the Cecil Hotel. Just to add to the creep factor... I'm so disturbed by her hands
gazorpazorpfieldandtwobrothers
The hotel she was at is the Cecil Hotel, which has a bit of a dark past as well and it's not far from skid row, a place to avoid at night.
BadKitteh
She looks like she's unfamiliar with elevators even. (2/2)
FappyChan
The people that drank the water from the Elisa case...ew.
IllegalDuckling
Ugh, if the water had just been salted...
FartHealthy
Hello front desk? This water tastes like hotel water.
ksharer
2/2 is not healthy.
Ontheotherhandyouhavedifferentfingers
It gave me a full body shudder....
ksharer
Wouldn't that also explain the out break of TB and the LAM-ELISA test? Not to kindle the fire, but I'm sure drinking a decomposing body 1/2
thebluespirit
Imagine being the guy who had to check the water tank. *shudders*
KalleSchnikov
My thought exactly. Ew.
FellowRotter
THIS was exactly my reaction! just mine was loud and obnoxious hahaha... but seriously, eww :(
blissfulmelancholy
Imagine being a person who complained, only for the hotel to say "oh sorry, it was just a dead body"
OneWithTheFro
"RIght. Makes a lot of sense actually. Thank you, oh and can I get an early checkout? Much obliged"
JLimages
reminds me of people who did a polar bear plunge near a dead guy.
TheStickyWicket
That's significantly less gross to me. You're not drinking condensed essence of human...
LicensedToChill
Can you imagine the showers?
ImaSwiffernotamop
Oh god. Stop. Just make it stop
FedericoAstica
...or brushing your teeth
ImaSwiffernotamop
noooooooooooo
Donjo19
You'd need a toothpick after brushing!
StayingClassy
Oh, irony.
tipples
According to Wiki sources, they actually complained about low water pressure, which makes more sense that a body was blocking the pipes.
tipples
First-world water systems are filtered and tested repeatedly before you drink them. Not to mention any "dead body taste" would be (1)
tipples
distributed through the tens of thousands of gallons a hotel uses on a daily basis anyway. (2)
otterboxing
They also complained about discolored water- brown red and black. icky.
Donjo19
"Dead body taste" @.@
wildkatrn
there was a crime show I watched based on this I think! cool
itsPixie
I remember this, was it Law and Order SVU? I feel like I remember Olivia working on it. o-o
kaleisntthatgood
yeah but like years before?
itsPixie
Man I looked pretty hard and couldn't find it, but I know for sure I saw an episode based around a dead girl in a water tank.
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
Pretty sure you're thinking of Castle.
bombadil92
Wasn't Black Water with Jennifer Connelly about something like this?
wildkatrn
didn't see that one :/ but maybe!
Fyba
Yes it was, I couldn't remember the movie title thank you.
Octom
just imagine drinking a dead body
andwhyisthecarpetallwetTodd
no thanks
HatsAreEssential
Well... I mean, you sometimes eat dead animals that have been dead longer than 2 weeks... (Shh, don't argue, Trying not to puke.)
ImaSwiffernotamop
For shits sake its not decomposing though! Not like a dead body in a water tank, at least hahaha
Lienus
I'm ok with admitting that I'm afraid to click the Elisa YouTube link. The text description was enough for me.
meetmeinparismonamour
Same here. Specially after reading some comments about it *glup*
PearCat
its just a pixely video of her dancing around in an elevator
justwokeupstillcutetho
but it still scared the shit out of me
PearCat
is this the part where im supposed to point and say "ha ha weenie"
Ipostchemistrystuff
I hate that story because we share the same name. It freaks me out.
guitardemigod
I honestly wish I had not seen the video as I'm very unnerved by her hand gestures...
idontwanttomakeausername
I'm hypermobile in all of my joints, and those motions are laboured for me. If she had normal wrists that would have almost hurt/been hard
TotinosPizzaRolls
I just came to this and I'm scared too. Uuuughhhhh stupid imagination.
EmmyCD
I wish I didn't watch the Elisa Lam case. I will not be sleeping tonight
badgerkin
I watched the part where she moves her hands strangly multiple times. I think its her talking with her hands like a lot of people do... 1of2
badgerkin
2of2 and the fact that the camera is at a strange angel. Also, I have seen people with mental disabilities have strange arm and hand positio
emulsified
Thanks, I'll make sure I don't watch it. I'm way too easily creeped out.
Somethingfunnyhere
She definitely is on something or has a mental illness, my gut instinct is telling me shes mentally ill. There is nothing haunting'bout this
guitardemigod
I am deeply unnerved by her hand gestures. I can't seem to get the visual out of my head.
MasterTenzin
Why? She's just swirling them around and then bending/playing with her left hand fingers with her right hand. Pretty normal range.
mandrea
it's probably more creepy when your brain is in "horror movie" mode.
RoxieRevolver
I watched it earlier today and forgot about it. I watched it again now, alone at 2am, and I'm having a panic attack
mandrea
I opened the video, watched the first three seconds, stopped the video. Read the comments, not watching the video. Ever.
EmmyCD
Good move!
bytesahoy
Black Knight Satellite.... black = dark ... knight, similar to a fictional superhero we all know and love... who is also inexplicable..(1/2)
ThisWasATriumph
It's the satellite Earth deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
bytesahoy
(2/2) only three words in the name... popularized in 1954, 15 years after his first appearance... 15/3 = 3... Half Life 3 confirmed!
Efreeti
15/3=5
luepola
except you don't divide 15 by 3 to get 3
thisisthebesticouldowithouthaspacebar
Don't even care the math's wrong. As someone else said HALF LIFE 5 CONFIRMED.
TheDrCrotch
I'm no mathematician, but I think 15/3=5
PeopleWithReallyLongUsernamesAnnoyMeIDontGetWhyItHasToBeSoLong
Half Life 5 confirmed
RedditPlease
GASP
trainmanauxl1
One... two...FIVE!
waxtits69
Three, sir!
cstrang
Looks like Elisa Lam had a schizophrenic episode.
SerialKitten666
A psychotic episode*** Schizophrenia=/=psychosis
BobtheNinja
Psychotic episodes are extremely characteristic of schizophrenia.
SerialKitten666
Psychotic episodes are extremely characteristic of the majority of psychological disorders...and not all schizophrenia is "psychotic"
MadPoopah
Right? Not that mysterious. Creepy though.
radivnal
That's exactly what I was thinking.
jweenypwee
People also act crazy and talk to people who aren't there when sleep walking. Very common.
ForThoseWhoHaveHeart
Are they sure it wasn't drugs? It took 2 weeks to find her. Would any drugs have left the body by the time they did the autopsy?
fivefrozenfishfingers
Don't know about schizophrenia, but she was bipolar.
beeanisimo
Bipolar disorder can sometimes have psychotic symptoms like those of schizophrenia. It's possible that is was a psychotic episode...
ButImNotaRaptor
She's about the right age for her first episode and her abnormal motor coordination also supports that theory. I'd say its plausible
andyonetime
Yay science!!
helloyesthisis
She wasn't acting all that odd, really, just a little - or a lot? - drunk. The elevator wasn't working and she was reacting to that.
skittleyphallus
But if she had no history of it, it's still a bit bizarre and sucks a lot.
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
2) That means an episode can seem like it came out of nowhere when in fact symptoms had been progressively getting worse.
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
1) Often there're small signs of mental illness that aren't noticed or are ignored. Especially if the person spends a lot of time alone.
CephalopodsLie
Schizophrenia doesn't normally present itself until your late teens to mid 20's. It can also be brought on by stress like lack of sleep.
armadastarscream
It can still be at any age js. My close friend has had it since she was 12
zoso87
Just because you get a psychotic episode, doesn't mean you have to have schizophrenia.
LizBoo
Must have been....right? So so chilling.
StillNotYouTube
This or drugs.
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
Her first schizophrenic episode coinciding with the elevator malfunction? Doesn't seem too likely. Personally, I think the most likely [1]
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
explanation is that the whole story is an elaborate hoax and that Elisa Lam doesn't exist (wouldn't be the first time mainstream media [2]
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
has picked up a fake story). If she is real and really was found dead that night, I don't think it was schizophrenia, though. [3]
BobtheNinja
Why would this have to be her first schizophrenic episode? Plenty of people with a mental disease won't tell anyone because of the stigma.
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
I was informed (incorrectly, I've now discovered) by another poster that she had no history of mental illness. Most of the time, people [1]
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
don't go from 0 to crazy without leaving a history of odd behavior, either documented medically or observed by family and friends. [2]
skittleyphallus
plus the elevator door not closing but then just proceeding like normal after she left
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
Maybe she pushed the emergency button. Could be that keeps the elevator from closing, but after a certain period of time it reset itself.
TJsAwesomeName
But wouldn't the hotel be alerted if the emergency button was pressed? Like they'd send a mechanic or something.
innitstrange
in some skid row shitty motel?
kelpsie
Could be that the elevator shit itself when a bunch of buttons were all pressed at once.
MacGyverGlitch
I just had the most vivid mental image of an elevator shitting itself.
LadyWidebottom
Especially given that she walked out, and then came back in and did it all again. It was only once she'd been out for a while that it (1/2)
LadyWidebottom
fixed itself up again, but then it was still spazzing out opening and closing repeatedly. Maybe she really fucked it up? (2/2)
Lowdras
It wasn't spazzing out, it was going to the floors she pressed...
Reduviidae
But what about the elevator? - Was it also having a "schizophrenic episode"? - What about the way that she was moving her arms?
HEYMABRINGMEADAMNJUICEBOX
was someone holding the outside button? her arms were weird as hell though.
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
I'm wondering if she pushed the emergency button. Maybe that keeps the doors from closing, and resets itself after a while.
GoronsRock
Hmm, seems reasonable... Nope. Ghosts.
gazorpazorpfieldandtwobrothers
A friend of my fixed elevators, he says it very common for people to wave their hands erratically when the elevator is not working (1/2)
infrabasse
Yeah sure I'll go outside the elevator to move my hands so that the doors close and I can go upstairs. Oh wait!
gazorpazorpfieldandtwobrothers
because they think elevators are built with motion sensor. Obliviously it doesn't do anything, because there are no motion sensor. (2/2)
ImaSwiffernotamop
That wasnt the typical... "HELL-FUCKING-OOOO stupid ass doors, close already!!!!" Arm waves, though. But Ill go with it because I need to.
hovi
It really isn't the fact that she moved her arms, as it is the way her arms moved about. Definitely looked unnatural.
RoboLuddite
Everyone keeps saying it looks creepy or unnatural. It looks weird, sure, but I do weird things with my arms and fingers all the time.
LadyWidebottom
I didn't think it looked all that strange. Elaborate, yeah, but not unnatural.
Whatthehellizwrongwthu
that was creepy for sure... its like she was asking the elevator why it wouldn't go down? but her arms... weird..
harpsicat
and there are lots of types of schizophrenia!
harpsicat
types of schizophrenics have strange muscle movements
RoboLuddite
Maybe she thought it had a motion sensor and was trying to trip it?
VergilPrime
That was my conclusion. But the door to the roof and water tanks was reported to be locked.
ThatGuyYouMetOnTheBus
After watching it a few times, the reflection on the elevator wall makes her arm movements seem a lot more bizarre than they actually are.
ThatGuyYouMetOnTheBus
In reality, she's making somewhat of a "calm down" motion to nothing, possibly a schizophrenic hallucination.
RavenousPonies
LSD, its common for LSD users to move their hands in weird, trance like ways like that.
ProcrastinateurParExcellence
I don't understand how any of those things could disprove - rather than prove - the possiblity of Elisa Lam having a schizophrenic episode.
GingerTheBeard
honestly.
Mushroomba
Tics and odd body movements are pretty characteristic of almost every pervasive mental illness. That would be evidence for it not against.
mimblewimble
Anything can happen during a schizophrenic episode. Their ideas and thoughts aren't entirely reasonable.
ZapTap
But that doesn't explain the doors not closing - which there is video of.
mimblewimble
A malfunction from probably hitting all of the buttons?
Avatar720
Was looking for this. So many people attempt to 'reason' with mental disorders; some don't want to accept that it's out of their control.
Avatar720
Some certain things can and cannot happen with certain mental illnesses, but the rest is really anybody's guess.
mimblewimble
Which is where the de-humanization comes in. We blame demons and aliens because we can't imagine a human really thinking this way.
mimblewimble
Agreed. I could write a book on how often people try to rationalize disorders. It's hard to explain something we can't experience.
Diax1324
I tried moving like that after I saw it and it's really difficult and painful. Also seems like something someone in severe pain may do.
NotWhatYouPlanted
I don't know, at one point it looked like she was just waving her arms between the elevator doors possibly to make them move.
BloodRaptorX
Joint pain maybe. Women move their hands like that when they talk sometimes. The last bit looks like sign language, honestly.
drew9000
What's with the door in the video at 2:58? If you go frame by frame it jumps open to sticking out several inches in one frame, while the (1
drew9000
rest of it's motion is in tiny increments per frame (2
ButImNotaRaptor
The timestamp would indicate if it was tampered with. Maybe the door was jammed hence why it didn't work in the first place? Good eye though
RoboLuddite
I can't read the timestamp, but my guess is that the camera is movement triggered. Turned off when she went away, turned on when it started.
DirtyA
wait, are you telling me you believe this shit?
Reduviidae
DirtyA
this loops a little too well.
harpsicat
this is very characteristic of a person with schizophrenia, 1 main thing being that it appears that she thinks someone is "after" her
DirtyA
why are you telling me this?
damnitdan
The hand movement is creepy as hell, but could be part of an hallucination. But the the elevator, that's is so weird.
MasterTenzin
What about her arms? She's just swirling her hands around, and at one point playing with or bending her fingers with her right hand.
gingerminge
it could be a kind of chorea. the arm movements look uncomfortable, but not impossible. What is happening is her hands are bent so that (..)
gingerminge
her pinky is almost 90 degrees to her ulna. Then she brings her wrist up to her shoulder with her elbow clost to her body and pointed in(..)
gingerminge
toward her midline. You can do this yourself (if you're flexible) it is REALLY uncomfortable. It might be spasmodic, but you can do it under
gingerminge
your own power. The other movements are from just extending the arm and rotating the forearm and shoulder.
rusty6899
It definitely looks like that. I am also skeptical of how the Black Night would avoid the effects of orbital decay for 13,000 years.
drew9000
Not to mention that number, how did a writer figure out it's age just from some radio data?
rusty6899
Indeed