What’s the difference between donation and bribery?

Sep 23, 2021 3:32 PM

Shadowhawk000095

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Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the controversial Arizona Democrat who threatens to derail President Biden's legislative agenda, received more than $750,000 in donations from the pharmaceutical and medical device industries. After that, she announced her opposition to a Democratic plan to lower prescription drug costs.

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The honest dis-honest politician, that's so hot right now!

5 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 2

you make your own hell lol

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

At this point I don’t think she even cares about being primaried. She’s got the lobbyists attention and a cushy job lined up I’m sure.

5 years ago | Likes 227 Dislikes 2

Remember she isn't alone, primarying her isn't enough, there are plenty more who are willing to play the bad guy to do their owners' bidding

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Wow. Not even trying to hide it.

5 years ago | Likes 561 Dislikes 4

Why hide? The MSM won't cover it, they'll just continue to blame the Rs and progressives for everything. She's basically invisible.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

So pissed I had to vote for her

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fuck that bitch. I'm sorry I voted for her.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Call for an expulsion due to corruption, call them all out and have the 5 Dems be the 2/3rds vote

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Bribes. Not donations.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A politician who lied... this has to be a first right?

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When it's publicly known and socially accepted that politicians receive bribes, you know your system of government is completely fucked.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It’s probably illegal for her to use it for personal expenses. This is about the long game, I think.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It is. AFAIK there's no evidence she's doing anything illegal here. She is likely to be offered a cushy "consulting" job with one of these 1

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

big pharma companies after she leaves office, though. Everyone thinks these campaign donations are just direct bribes. It's shady, but not 2

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

quite as shady as everyone acts like it is. 3/3

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The issue is rarely what's illegal. It usually is what's immoral yet legal. (Also fuck the Supreme Court for eviscerating corruption laws)

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You know what upsets me about this? It's not that she sold out. It's that she sold out for a relatively small amount. 1/2

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

She's fucking over the entire country for the price of a nice house (or, in some parts of the country, not even that). 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And she couldn’t even wait. She took the first offers and just ran.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think that sums it up accurately.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Democrats have a once in a generation chance to actually accomplish a lot of good. I swear to dog, if they fucking blow it…

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

I want to be optimistic but that would require that the last few years hadn't utterly drained my hope and faith in humanity...

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They don't really have that much of a chance because of filibuster rules in the senate though. What they can actually do is fairly limited.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The reason for that is that they've spent the last generation telling their rightmost flank they're the most important part of the party.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But even if every dem voted in lockstep they still don't have a filibuster proof majority. All they can do is pass whatever can go through 1

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

budget reconciliation, which can't be filibustered but is limited to things that "have to do with the federal budget". 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"jUsT vOtE" nearly every candidate is a gd lying sociopath. What good is voting cunts out if we just vote new ones in??

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

you need to vote for people who actually stand for things, and a lot of the time they don't

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

5 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 1

And such a cute dress! Dontcha just want to strangle her with it?

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

This makes me irate every time I see it.

5 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

There it is

5 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

5 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

cunt

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

that she is

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"Fuck the poor" in action right here. She is a conservative.

5 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

Taxpayer funded campaigns with strict spending limits could fix this mess.

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

This was lobbying money - while I'm 100% on board with your ideas, we'd also need to ban lobbying. Which would be good.

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Banning lobbying outright would not be good. The people have a right to speak with their elected officials and plead their case for why a

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

certain bill should or shouldn't be passed. That's all lobbying really is. The problem comes when corporations are allowed to buy outsized 2

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

influence with nearly unlimited campaign contributions. We just need to overturn Citizens United. 3/3

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not JUST Citizens United. Buckley v. Valeo (1976) is the rotten foundation on which CU rests, and established "spending/giving $$$ = speech"

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It’s technically legal

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

As long as she uses the money for campaigning and doesn't pocket it.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Way to go america

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

i feel like it is very unethical tho

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Technically it's legal for the cops to show up and steal your shit. But does that make it okay?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I wasn’t making a value judgment

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hate the game, not the player. Money is the sugar giving US politics diabetes and letting infectious boils like Trump pop up and persist.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

villain!

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Why oh why would you ever allow things like this? This is straight up corruption.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Milo gives the lbgt community a better name than this bitch.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

The fact is her state will likely vote her in again.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She is the Ted Cruz of people

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How the actual fuck was she ever a member of the green party?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Green Party USA is all about anti-Democratic Party ratfucking. Least surprising thing in the world is flipping to ratfuck from the right.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Because she had principles, but they were weakly held and she decided power was more important than them.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I have to take training on not accepting bribes or gifts larger than $25 for my job, but i guess when your a senator its ok to take $750k

5 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 1

It's okay? Hell, it's expected.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I work for the federal government and that training was a joke. I was so angry at it.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

the laws are different for Executive Branch employees (you) vs. elected officials in the legislative branch

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Gee, I wonder who makes those laws?

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

she is out for herself.

5 years ago | Likes 831 Dislikes 4

Yeah, she’s a politician.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No question about it.

5 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 2

So, a politician then...

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bribes are the best investment there is. Republicans try to return $1000 in taxpayer money for every $ they get.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then she needs to be out.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So are 90% of our government officials. Only time you see them "working for the people" is the last 6 months before reelection.

5 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 3

Do you mean the elected officials or like… Joe Schmo who works for some three-letter agency? Cuz don’t group us in with the politicians plz

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Even then they just say they are, but they’re not actually doing anything

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I believe we all need to reconsider the system. It takes a certain personality to even run for office. We need people in power who don't >

5 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

Crave power. We need people who genuinely care for us as a society presently and for the future. I have no answers.

5 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

There's no way to consistently get those people into positions of power. Power naturally draws those who want power for its own sake. The >>

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

>> best option right now would be for the populace to inform themselves and vote more intelligently, but that seems equally farfetched.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Term limits is a start. Determining/limiting where campaign funding comes from is another.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Campaign finance reform, absolutely. But term limits are one of those things that would have the opposite effect of what we actually think.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Getting someone to roll back the SCOTUS's ruling that corporations are people and money is a form of speech is another big one too.

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