imgurianitarian
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I don't believe in about 3000 gods, you deny 1 less than me. you don't believe in 2999 gods. So you’re nearly as atheistic as me!
Source: https://youtu.be/P5ZOwNK6n9U
If all books were wiped from history, all knowledge from peoples memories... Science would be rediscovered again, but the holy book would not exist in the same form.
NPSM365
What if someone believes in them all? He didn't think of that, did he?
TallLightnHandsome
Everyone has a belief system. We just base it on different things.
Paraphrast
Base it on the same things, but the word/images are different.
tomb818
I used to enjoy his humor, but when he started fat shaming people ,after he lost weight, he became painful to watch. He acts Very SUPERIOR
lynand529000
You can't argue with right.
djangojazz
Neil DeGrasse Tyson: "Science exists whether you want to believe in it or not."
Paraphrast
That's what the theist say as well.
Bonchoman
Nerahm
That he can admit when a damn good point is made is why I can respect Colbert. Also, his LOTR moments are fantastic
imgurianitarian
But also the way Gervais does not laugh with the audience when Colbert bumbles over 3 gods. Mutual respect.
rssplowman
NotABadLookingNarcissist
That’s good, that’s really good.
Someshithead241
What makes every religious person so sure that it's *their* god that is the real one and every other one is fake?
imgurianitarian
Because their family said so when they were children.
SoMuchPooPooSon
David Mitchell's perfect response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA85LVmqg0M
GieopJoze
Atheism is not about wanting to tear vomfort from people. It's more about giving beliefs their right place in important social 1/
GieopJoze
Matters. Witch is none. 2/2
SoMuchPooPooSon
He's responding directly to comedians like Ricky Gervais, not atheists. Listen again.
FisheswithDynamite
Stephen Colbert is a truly good religious man, I feel all people of faith should strive to be like him.
Blackfinity
Trumpism, QAnon and the rest has reiterated the sheer depths people's gullibility and pattern-seeking; people will believe _anything_.
Klaumbaz
I prefer P.T. Barnum's quote "Sucker born every minute."
dezibunny
I’m a nihilist who believes in God (most people use nihilist in the wrong way) so to me, it doesn’t matter, God would make it exist again.
Paraphrast
Nihilist and a theist... well well well....
dezibunny
Lol. What a lovely reply <3
TOKYK
I am a Pagan, and I accept science. I have reason to believe in and accept both. I'd never push my religion on someone.
BillGates5GPigeon
Typically when referring to a pagan people mean alternative/dead religions are you that? Or just a nor Al atheist/agnostic?
TOKYK
It's not a dead religion if people are practicing it. I don't pretend that I do what people historically did though.
BillGates5GPigeon
Nor Al=normal lol
pareidoliaperson
All this logic and all this energy spend to explain something that nobody even claims it's based on logic. Not even religious people. They1
pareidoliaperson
put their fate in gods hands and have faith in well faith, the unknown etc. In Islam it is even a sin if you try to "prove" gods existence.2
YouGoHugo
How convenient ?
pareidoliaperson
Wasted energy in something that what religioun is not about. You just have faith in things. To up morale/spirits of people, be friendly to3
pareidoliaperson
others, have basic morals, and be openminded to science/study. But both small fanatical religious people as well as fanatical 4
pareidoliaperson
ANTI-(fanatical, if they only knew)-religious people are having this dumb argument (well no more cos hese groups now represent most of media
pareidoliaperson
highly active on most of social media). Fact remains most people just live their lives, do science and religioun both, 6
DangerTrain
I'm agnostic. I believe in Agnos, the three-headed cat who can nap, chew on plastic, and throw up at the same time.
NomadUniverse
If you don't like Ricky, you're in one of the groups he battles against. You're the problem then, not him.
AZRAELSBLADE
Jews and Christians were called atheists by the Romans
Electromethius
I’d say there’s one flaw with the argument, that being that many skills are specific enough that they have been lost to time 1/
Electromethius
Like how to make Damascus steel. And the bicicle was mostly made by trial and error. We still don’t fully understand it’s properties 2/
Electromethius
So while much of science would come back, a lot of it may still be lost due to the amount of coincidences needed for some questions to be 3/
Electromethius
Asked. That said, the fundamental premise is still sound. And very well put. I just wanted to be a little pedantic end/
Someshithead241
Given enough time, I suspect they would happen again.
Electromethius
Maybe? Not sure if bicycle is a thing that’s of general enough use to happen twice on accident. Same with Damascus steel and “good bow”
Seethreepeeoh
If I ever wanted proof there is no god, Ricky Gervais
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Yes, he does a good job of pointing out the complete lack of proof, as well as all the evidence against.
ragazzino
Bonchoman
My opinion is that God is a character in a guidelines manual meant to teach lessons to help us all co-exist. Today, it is much the opposite.
Seethreepeeoh
Like a bearded dick van dyke in those fire safety PSA videos. Nice.
ViolinKites
iguessihaveto
There's gotta be something wrong with my brain that I find those weird teeth really cute.
LyrepskiAkoraton
I, too, often wonder what sort of good and loving God would ever let Ricky Gervais exist.
usernamesarereallystupid
Can you imagine if the Bible were to be rewritten? The Holy Bible: Cherry Picked Edition
naughtynimitz
“God issued 10 commandments: no murdering, no raping, no maiming, no slavery, no nonconsensual sex, no bullying, no no noise on a …
naughtynimitz
…dedicated weekend day, no false testimonies, no mental torturing and no toxic behaviour!
gamzy8
The Bible already is cherry picked lol. Many books were excluded because the church didnt like the message or even who wrote it.
usernamesarereallystupid
“Super duper cherry picked edition”
PeteTusk
That's what many preachers do all the time.
cardinal29
The bible has been *heavily* edited. Anything they don't like, they say "That's not canonical!"
SteveTheEgg
Yeah it's already like that, the King James version, New International, and pretty much all of them are picked and choose gospels, its not/
SteveTheEgg
/all of it, just what supported the editor's beliefs. There are actual gospel mythos of Christ going and freeing the sounds from Hades. But/
SteveTheEgg
/you wont find that in modern bibles.
naughtynimitz
“13.8 billion years ago God created the Big Bang”
DukeDarkwood
"As an Orthodox Hubbleist, H0=500, and the universe is only two billion years old! HOLY WAR! Uh, I mean SCIENCE WAR!"
DukeDarkwood
(Note: The actual value of the Hubble Constant is, based on our most accurate measurements, about 72 or 73, with a small margin for error.
DukeDarkwood
I don't even know how Edwin Hubble came up with 500, back in 1929, as it's an order of magnitude too large.)
MrJwinkyface
That’s literally the Bible. As it is now.
blaghart
Daily reminder that Ricky Gervais is a transphobic cunt whose "best points" are better made by other people who AREN'T transphobic cunts.
Paraphrast
He's just a guy who's confident in his opinion without a lot of thought behind it.
blaghart
And his opinion is that bigotry against oppressed minorities is A ok.
Paraphrast
He's just a dick, imo. too much snark in his 'comedy'... echo's of insecurities.
MrJwinkyface
blaghart
Him repeatedly calling transwomen men begs to differ with you cupcake
MrJwinkyface
You might want to go to the source on that on and not a click bait article title
blaghart
How about his own words:https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1208005552053374976?s=20
MrJwinkyface
Oh you don’t know what that whole thing was about do you? I suggest you read up on it and not take one thing out of context.
blaghart
Oh look, he literally called transwomen men, genius.
Mayokopp
Well, I get the idea behind the last one. But if we destroyed both all science and all holy books new creation myths would surely arise 1
Mayokopp
Along with sciences. And the sciences would not be the same exactly, since all of them are man-made patterns we use to understand reality. 2
Mayokopp
Our attempt at getting as close as we can to seeing the whole truth of reality, and that tool has often changed and can evolve in a 6
Mayokopp
Nonetheless new sciences wouldn't evolve in the exact same way. My point here is that science isn't an absolute truth. Science is merely 5
Mayokopp
Our scientific fields have over history. Surely IF the same scientific method would crystallise the same patterns would start to show, but 4
Mayokopp
So in this new science (while reality remains unchanged, yes) humans would probably notice other patterns and those would evolve just like 3
Mayokopp
Variety of ways, heavily dependent on the circumstances 7
Bloodyworthy
I think you may have missed the point a little bit. Yes, the newly evolved science may have differences in terminology.. 1
Bloodyworthy
(e.g. "Planck's constant" turns into "Tim's Special Number", but the value itself would 'eventually have been discovered again, because.. 2
Bloodyworthy
the universal laws are not man-made and so have remained the same. Notably, with science the little details like terminology don't matter.3
Bloodyworthy
As they are just little steps towards the constantly evolving body of knowledge that science discovers. In contrast, when a book has.. 4
tinyCabbage
i can't remember who originally said this, but it wasn't ricky.
NomadUniverse
Two people cant come up with the same idea?! I never knew that.
Jackpot7777777
Penn Jillette, "God, No! Signs You May Already Be an Atheist and Other Magical Tales", published in 2011.
MCgoldbody
richard dawkins makes this point in ‘the god delusion’ (published in 2006)
tinyCabbage
that was it, Richard Dawkins, I think I read it in the selfish gene preface
tyrunn
Gervais, saying something he didn't write!?
whatsthataboot
Premise for next: I am a Christian and I respect Ricky Gervais. I have a strong feeling God does, too. 1/?
MrJwinkyface
Do you at least like his comedy?
whatsthataboot
“At least”? I don’t understand that part.
MrJwinkyface
Do you like his comedy? Not hard to read around that
whatsthataboot
Yes
whatsthataboot
It doesn’t make sense for religious people to force their beliefs on other people unless it’s literally to save someone’s physical life 2/?
whatsthataboot
or otherwise protect human rights. Gervais and most of us here are also somewhat off. 3/?
whatsthataboot
Science is very much like religion in that there are some things we still don’t know and probably never will. 4/?
whatsthataboot
Additionally scientists can be incredibly cruel, biased, and ignorant just as easily as our religious leaders. 5/?
whatsthataboot
Let their years of research and their grants be at risk and they will turn their backs. 6/7
kitamuramiike
I mean, no. Because what if the rights granted don't come from your religion....like abortion.
whatsthataboot
That’s always gonna be slippery.
whatsthataboot
The point is still that those big questions are the only time we can justify even trying to push our religious ideals into other spaces.
Svartsinn
Atheism is the belief there is no god. That's a belief.
MrJwinkyface
No, as a original Greek atheist, I simply lack belief in god(s).
MrJwinkyface
Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. A lack of belief is not a belief.
Paraphrast
Lack of a particular belief structure doesn't mean 'nothing' so, while convenient, that's not how it shakes out.
Svartsinn
A lack of belief is called agnosticism, which is not what atheism is. Atheism is the belief that there is no god.
MrJwinkyface
I do not hold a belief that there are no gods. I lack belief in gods. Generally atheist is lump to include disbelief but that’s not a/
MrJwinkyface
Requirement for the definition. Lacking belief in gods is still atheism. Does not matter if you don’t understand
MrJwinkyface
As with my example, not having a belief in something is not make you believe against it.
MrJwinkyface
Im absolutely sure that I do not believe in agnosticism. I have a dictionary if you need it
MrJwinkyface
You are simply wrong. Basic Greek, atheist means without or lacking gods. I lack belief in gods. I know what the fuck I’m saying.
Paraphrast
You're playing with the concepts and language just like Biblical literalists. Knock yourself out.
MrJwinkyface
No, I’m using the original word and a dictionary. Sorry words having meaning, but that’s how language works.
MrJwinkyface
Image how stupid you have to be to come at someone else who clearly knows their own views and try to educate them on what they think.
MrJwinkyface
ἄθεος thats the Greek word for atheist. I’m 100% lacking belief and without gods. I’m an atheist.
Paraphrast
lacking in beliefs there are gods... you still have beliefs... just no gods.
MrJwinkyface
No, that’s not how that works. Really shitty of you to tell others what they believe.
MrJwinkyface
I clearly know what my views are yet you think you know them better than me?
Mokelzwerg
I have zero problems with atheists. But a lot of atheists on Imgur jump at anyone’s throat who mildly points out religious freedom.
sparkleponyglitter
You thinking of Christians bro?
Mokelzwerg
Mainly, but not only bro.
RageMojo
The idea religon is repressded is fucking nonsense. We have a massive problem with seperation of church and state. Not the other way around
Mokelzwerg
We? As in USA? I’m from Germany.
DangerTrain
Yeah I don't think you understand "religious freedom", it's not the freedom to impose your religion on others.
Mokelzwerg
When did I do that?
andybandy
If it's used to incorrectly justify dangerous nonsence then i will fight it. But religious freedom is just as important as freedom from it.
Mokelzwerg
Absolutely
andybandy
I am genuinly curious about who downvited this and why.
Oogibah
Can you give an example of the religious freedom you believe is persecuted?
Mokelzwerg
I didn’t say it’s persecuted. I said that I get attacked for pointing it out. When people demand the end of religion on here.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
No one is demanding the end of religion, just the end of religion in law and government
Mokelzwerg
I totally agree to that. Modern western law & state is partly based on Christianity, etc. anyway. Separate it.
Oogibah
There is a belief among some atheists at religion is dangerous and gives cause to radical people to justify their actions.
Oogibah
For example, seen a lot of news about Afghanistan lately. Look at how it looked in the 1980s vs now. That change was because of religious
Oogibah
Extremists. Funny enough the same thing happened before in the same area in the world. That area used to be a scientific silicon valley..
jessip1114
How is it that atheists are usually so kind when explaing their beliefs but other religious ppl can be the biggest of assholes about it.
SteveTheEgg
Athiest have to be nicer because people get so offended when you don't believe the same lies as them.
YouGoHugo
What planet do you live on?
Gixxerguy
Have you heard or read literally anything else Ricky has said about religion?
wintermute93
Yeah, "making a good point respectfully" is very much not Ricky's usual MO. Normally he makes said points like a huge asshole.
Ricobe9
He's a comedian. His style might be harsh to some
YouGoHugo
Disagree man have you not heard a neckbeard lose it on some quiet worshipper?
MatraMavrik
Lol! “Usually so kind”…
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
people don't like it when their foundation is wiped from them and made to believe in a different one.
itsthesneak
Exactly. When cognitive dissonance hits you hard, it’s easier to clutch harder to your wrong beliefs
ScottishOddish
Good Christians don't make much noise.
spregan
What i like most: My religion is the right one and all the others are fake. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WeAreTheRobots
Some religious and atheists people are just assholes.Keep you beliefs to yourself and respect others instead of trying to break it all down.
Drennen
Athiests have nothing to prove.
KaraokeLemur
It's more about kind people being kind and assholes being the biggest of assholes than anything else.
flapperfemmefatale
Because we really don't care if we change your mind.
WhatRaySay
Religious indoctrination BEGINS with "truths" which remain quarantined from critical thought. Any threat to that is terrifying.
yasariel
All indoctrination, no matter if it's political, philosophical or religious, begins with a baseline of actual truths, that are then ->
yasariel
warped by methods such as deliberately changing meanings of words, redefining values etc in a gradual process.
mrsdowneyjr
I have seen the meanest "your sky wizard is a blundering piece of shit and so are you " comments it's amazing
InDubiousBattle
This, so much. Assholes of all kinds are vocal. Kind people who are secure in their belief or lack of it often aren't.
mrsdowneyjr
I'm a devout Christian but I find jamming anything down some ones throat that they don't want jammed down their throat gross and unchristian
mrsdowneyjr
The way I look at Jesus is this: the teachings are an amazing guide to good living. If I take Winnie the Pooh's advice and love my friends,
mrsdowneyjr
Hasn't Pooh bear actually helped me? I don't need Jesus to be real to benefit from great advice. He's a sympathetic character I love I hope
SoMuchPooPooSon
People are assholes, regardless of what they do or don't believe. To attribute being an asshole to one or the other is nonsense.
EaNasirIsABastard
1 The pope can be an ass and his views will be reported, but nobody would give the floor to an asshole without an official position. 2 A /
EaNasirIsABastard
religious person can have a very emotional battle in their minds about losing their religion and project that on others, but an atheist /
EaNasirIsABastard
have doubts and turning to religion isn't really a big deal. So they don't really have much of a personal stake in the conversation.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
I'm sure all those words meant something to you. I can't for the life of me figure what it might be though.
EaNasirIsABastard
Losing a religious belief is very difficult, but gaining a religious belief is basically nothing in comparison.
admound
Watch some Richard Dawkins argument videos.
TheHuntedSnark
Atheists can also be assholes. Richard Dawkins comes to mind ...
Lightndattic
Madalyn Murray O'Hair and her kids would be a better example of an asshole atheist.
SnarkyScience
That’s more public persona than reality for Dawkins. And even that is more… aggressive logic than asshole imho.
InoffensivePablum
Richard Dawkins is an imminently polite and extremely nice man who has a very low threshold for bullshit.
TheHuntedSnark
I watched at least one documentary he hosted. He struck me as neither polite nor nice.
imgurianitarian
And he coined the term that we base our imgurianitarian beliefs on
Mokelzwerg
Really? I get heavily attacked on Imgur regularly for defending religion.
notsureofanything
I’m not religious but I find it sad that your true statement got 3 downvotes. Proof of concept I guess
andybandy
He said usually, assholes come in all shapes and sizes and beliefs. Also don't confuse an attack on your beliefs with an attack on yourself.
andybandy
I am unable to respect a belief that is held without good reason, doesn't mean i dont respect the people holding those beliefs.
Mokelzwerg
There is the right to religious freedom nevertheless.
Mmmmmoist
Perhaps but that's not the bigger picture https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/atheists-and-humanists-facing-discrimination-across-
Mokelzwerg
Link doesn’t work
Mmmmmoist
Google. Here's the wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists
Mmmmmoist
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/atheists-and-humanists-facing-discrimination-across-the-world-report-finds
Ricobe9
Yea some of it start from religious people that push lies against atheists. When atheists defend against those, they are labelled as a*holes
BillGates5GPigeon
Link doesn't work
Mmmmmoist
Google discrimination and atheism. There are many articles. Here's the wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists
MrFnortner
Religious believers are scared because they know they have nothing.
Seethreepeeoh
You want to learn about the dark side of zeal, try making a joke about atheism on imgur.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Yes, make a joke about a group that is heavily discriminated against (almost half of americans don't believe an ateist can be moral)
psykadelicangel
Atheists kinda pride themselves on the whole idea of we don't need no steenking moral guidebook to be decent humans.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
I don't think they take pride in that, they believe it to be self-evident
Causeitsmadeofmeat
I'd like to hear one of these "jokes". I bet they're pretty funny!
Seethreepeeoh
They're like absolution. You wouldn't get it.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Not bad; actually funny. Like many religiously based things it contains underlying cruelty if you think lack of absolution = eternal torment
psykadelicangel
You can't lump the baby eaters in with everyone else. All kinds of kinds, even among heathens.
Seethreepeeoh
ATacoWalksIntoABar
I think ideologies can bring the asshole out in ppl. Atheists have no ideology, they neither believe or disbelieve.
ATacoWalksIntoABar
I’m correcting myself, AGNOSTICS neither believe or disbelieve. Then I take it back, atheists can be assholes, agnostics are meh.
bChrispy
(a)gnosticism and (a)theism aren't mutually exclusive terms. One is about knowledge and the other is about belief or lack thereof
bChrispy
Agnostic isn't a middle ground between atheists and theists. Almost all atheists are also agnostic...
Ricobe9
And everyone calling themselves agnostics are atheists. Agnostic theists, don't refer to themselves as agnostics
Causeitsmadeofmeat
So, if they don't believe they are assholes? If provided actual evidence of a deity, I would believe. So far there is none.
ATacoWalksIntoABar
Same, that’s agnostic. You don’t believe or disbelieve, just want proof. Atheism is a firm disbelief. Agnostics aren’t assholes …
ATacoWalksIntoABar
We have nothing to be assholes about, we’re fluid haha
Causeitsmadeofmeat
No, agnostic means nothing can be known about god, Atheism is litteraly a lack of belief in a god. You don't get to decide otherwise
SmashySashimi
We want you to think about it. The religious want you to be scared about it.
Markamanic
Of what? Hell? Jesus died so humanity would be absolved of sin. So we can sin all we want and be good.
SmashySashimi
If that's your interpretation of the NT, then congratulations; I am scared. Of you.
Markamanic
Good.
SmashySashimi
Mighty Christian of you.
Markamanic
I'm totally jerking it to my neighbors wife rn.
mikenco
Atheism isn't a belief. It's the unacceptance of a claim based on the lack of evidence. It's no more a belief than 'bald' is a hairstyle.
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
It's a philosophy.
InoffensivePablum
It is not a philosophy any more than not believing in Santa Claus is a philosophy.
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Philosophy is the study of the fundamentals of reality, existence, and knowledge.
InoffensivePablum
And atheism is not that.
TheRimOfTheSky
The belief that there is a god is a belief. The belief that there is no god is a belief. To not have a belief is to be agnostic.
andybandy
He never said it was, he said atheists are kind when explaining their beliefs, but yea i agree with both of you.
schlummi
Careful with that. "God doesn't exist" is also a claim. "we don't know if god exists" is the correct claim - and that's agnosticism. Point
Gnoll
That's gnosticism, not atheism. There are Gnostic Theists (They know God exists), Agnostic Theists (Not sure if a God exists, but they 1/
Gnoll
believe in one, Gnostic Atheists (There is no God), and Agnostic Atheists (They dont know if there's a god, and don't believe in any) 2/2
mikenco
So many of you are wrong about Atheism. God is irrelevant to them, and deny the "claims" of Theist, because there's no proof.
schlummi
Claiming that something does not exist is a claim which needs to backed up. When there is no proof is the conclusion "we don't know".
mikenco
If I claimed we're orbited by a giant unicorn, it's correct to say "prove it" without having to disprove it yourself. You're not the..
YouGoHugo
Thats why its atheism, god doesnt exist by by that belief, agnosticism has No evidence of a god and this doesnt exist, until proven otherwis
Ricobe9
No, this is a common misunderstanding that's been pushed by parts of the religious community. Atheism is the opposite of theism. Theism ..
Ricobe9
Means "belief in a god/gods". Atheism means "without belief in a god/gods". Just like asymmetric means without symmetry. So it's not ..
Ricobe9
A belief it's a lack of belief. And agnosticism deals with knowledge, not belief. Agnostics are generally agnostic atheists
schlummi
is: if you want to convince others of your view you need to present evidence. Neither atheists nor religion can. Both are beliefs.
lostlittletimeonthis
You don't have to prove a negative, burden of proof is on the claim, atheists don't make a claim they just dispute the validity of proofs
schlummi
You are contradicting yourself here. You can easily claim a negative - like saying "the US does not exist". Such a claim needs to be backed
mikenco
So many brainwashed theists on here completely mis-understand the "burden of proof".