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Edit:
I noticed there is a lot of hate for Monsanto in the comments.
Myth:
They’re tyrants who sue farmers indiscriminately when GMO pollen drifts into neighboring fields.
Fact:
Monsanto has never sued a Farmer because of trace amounts of GMOs in their fields. What has happened, are farmers keeping the seeds from previous years, and using those to plant again next year. There are many unpatented seeds out there for farmers to choose from. While some of you may feel you shouldn’t be able to patent DNA, which is fine if you feel that way, the reality is that Monsanto has been the subject of many smear campaigns by Organic groups.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/02/27/147506542/judge-dismisses-organic-farmers-case-against-monsanto
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TheDudeanator
There is a misdirected hatred, mistakenly at the crops instead of the corporations like Monsanto.
ravendude43
Just like vaccines, GMOs work!
candiduscorvus
Anti-GMO is just another kind of anti-science, same as anti-vaccines and climate change deniers.
LondoMollariIsMySpiritAnimal
Farmers keeping seeds and planting them again next year? Best shut that shit down. Doubtless it'll lead to the collapse of the species.
PrincessPainInTheAss
Most farmers don't keep seed for the next season as the following yield will be much lower then if they buy fresh seed
ToastDNA
I hate when I have a Generally Modest Orgasm...
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Organic pesticides are often more toxic than the ones used by non organic farmers. The organic label has not regulations to it what so ever.
Painkiller1020
Um I believe that our plants should remained unvaccinated as nature intended.
TheMadOnion
Nature wants us to die, nature intends for us to die, and won't stop until we are all dead.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Not to mention the GM cotton crops that use 90% less water than non-GM cotton.
TheBestestElite
More like half but still https://qz.com/990178/your-organic-cotton-t-shirt-might-be-worse-for-the-environment-than-regular-cotton/
CovfefeRaiders
Isn’t that the GM cotton that caused sheep to be come venomous after eating large amounts of it?
thecowkingdom
Do you mean poisonous, or they randomly grew venom glands?
CovfefeRaiders
Their wool became poisonous to humans. The GM cotton uses caterpillar spit gland DNA to make it repel bugs. This F’d up the sheep.
ThatDudeRich
I thought they only made cars!
mondomar
Please share where you found this data.
Jisharagu
Wow. If that percentage is correct... Just wow.
tonypotsandpans
It’s not
DeathBy1000PaperCuts
You got the sauce for that? My pasta is pretty dry and I would settle for some articles from either side at this point.
PassiveOak
Couldn’t find an article specially stating that level of water reduction but most are about high yield. I guess the water/yield ratio is it?
TheMadOnion
Isn't GMO basically just selectively bred crops? I mean shit that would mean our dogs are GMO.
mkbagby110
No. Entirely different. Look it up.
TheMadOnion
I said that over a fucking year ago dude. Look at the date next time.
OGSlickMahogany
I'd say that's pretty easy to swallow, they're helpful do some research
FloofTumbleWeeds
Also: People who whine about GMO crops are the same ones bitching about research on Stem Cells & embryos, while simultaneously yelling (1)
FloofTumbleWeeds
about genetic research on people or animals as its "playing God". They then protest & bemoan the fate of dying children with untreatable (2)
FloofTumbleWeeds
genetic conditions. Disrupting, threatening & slandering Internationally renowned hospitals, while they're at it, But all the while not (3)
FloofTumbleWeeds
Understanding that the more GMO, Genetic, DNA, Stem cell, Embryonic and other similar research goes on, the closer the doctors will get (4)
FloofTumbleWeeds
To actually being able to help kids (and adults) with severe genetic issues. But these people have to understand that they can't have it (5)
FloofTumbleWeeds
Both ways. Either they allow more detailed genetic & embryonic research or more sick children will remain beyond help. (6)
looriloo
Monsanto may not be guilty in the specific way you describe but they are still one of the world's shittiest companies
Kodaxmax
"but its not natural!" - ignorant fools holding humanity back
dipidy
Finally somebody said it.
songbringer
every advancement in agriculture is done to either increase the size and quality of crop yield, or decrease cost to grow.
songbringer
Organic farming methods do the exact opposite, decreasing the size of the yield, and increasing labor costs.
farmlyfe
Not true, and you also don’t have the cost of buying seeds every year or pesticides and the equipment needed. Certified organic farmer here.
pinkhoo
Once GMO food is labeled more organic food will be bought. The GMO companies will do PR garbage but those that can afford it will go organic
pinkhoo
I'm converting to organic. I don't believe the pro-GMO b.s. We don't need this genetic modification. Farmers like you prove it.
pinkhoo
I cook the way my mom did, with canned soups and stuff, and I have to learn to cook different because I can't afford the organic versions.
cannonesshannah
There's this conflation that somehow all GMOs must be Monsanto and a general anti-science-in-farming sentiment as a result.
Ryebread91
@op I’m not saying you’re wrong about suing farmers but I’ve heard from multiple pages and documentaries that they do. Any specific sauce1/2
Ryebread91
That would be considered impartial? 2/2
HowFarmsWork
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/02/27/147506542/judge-dismisses-organic-farmers-case-against-monsanto third paragraph.
Ryebread91
Thank you.
JustAPocketFullofSunshine
THANK YOU! Every time I try to explain this people either go 'huh?' Or jump down my throat saying they're unnatural so they're unhealthy
PrincessPainInTheAss
I had a professor tell me I was responsible for his cancer because my family farms gmo crops
randomusergnome
Monsanto: kills/horribly maims people w/it’s chemicals. People: respond w/hate. Monsanto:
randomusergnome
*w/hate towards everything they do
numnumz
They also allow us to use farm land more efficiently reducing habitat loss.
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
Yes! I’ve just recently learned about crops that’ve been modified to grow in salty beach soil. They give use to otherwise useless land.
farmlyfe
They have led to monocropping and increased pesticide usage which is terrible for pollinators, wildlife, and diversity.
DoctorBaboon42
Modern agriculture was on that path long before genetic engineering was ever invented.
farmlyfe
You could sort of say that in the US post WWII but the rest of the world is farmed to this day by local, small, diversified farming
jadams999
US is slowly bringing back small farms at least. People are demanding more local food
DoctorBaboon42
I'm not sure which world you're talking about. In the one I'm from, gigantic fields of a single crop are everywhere anywhere you go.
Hutchy01
GMOs don't go far enough, I want a carrot so large and intelligent I have to beat it in single combat before I can eat Sunday Dinner
LizardEnterprises
Are you familiar with the Nazi Cows?
Hutchy01
I've heard of those Aurochs but if you mean anything else I have many questions
astrangehop
Os this related to those little sump wrestlers that pull your hair in?
RandomWordsRandomThoughts
Great to see Monsanto has an Imgur account now
HowFarmsWork
We are a Wisconsin YouTube Farm Vlog.
RandomWordsRandomThoughts
HowFarmsWork
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KrampusCopia
It grinds my gears that people give flak to Bill Nye for flip flopping on this issue. He evaluated the evidence and decided GMO's are great
aaverageusername
To bad roundup isnt working as well on weeds any more, so now they're making 2,4D ready corn and soy.
MemesNDreams16
Heard it works good on people though
fendrbendr
2,4D ready corn? Isn't 2,4D a broadleaf herbicide so corn is naturally 2,4D resistant?
farmlyfe
Absolutely, superweeds are terrifying
yodawgydawg
I'm currently working in a lab using GMO's to increase yield in oilseed crops. The "anti-GMO" craze is mostly uneducated crap.
svoka
What's hard to swallow here?
gkcaputo24
Corn with fish genes
gogoGMO
That’s simply not accurate.
gkcaputo24
Apologies, was being snide, it was a tomato, shouldn't have exaggerated. Like many, I find it difficult to trust, unintended consequences?
0plus1plus0
I have no doubt GMOs help but why am I not seeing lowered grocery bills because of them? Also consumers should be more informed
fluffytheporo
You are that’s why it’s so expensive to buy organic
Cheomesh
Well, if you're in the US much of your groceries are artificially low to begin with, owing to various subsidies.
DarkZalgo
Dunno where you live but fruits and vegetables of almost every kind are ridiculously cheap in the US.
TheMadOnion
Thinking about it the wrong way. You should compare cost to organic produce.(real organic) We've been using GMOs for a long time.
0plus1plus0
That's probably the it. I just don't know any different.
TheMadOnion
Cost isn't going down because it's been down for a very long time already.
pinkhoo
Real organic costs more because of smaller distribution. GMO affects mostly corn and soy, and the animals that eat the feed from those.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Correct. As someone doing a Masters in Ecology, the ecological benefits outweigh the cost.
CygnusKitty
Isn’t there risk in too much technological advancement to the point where you can’t fix it?
gkcaputo24
Congratulations on your masters pursuit, not enough humans interested in the subject, my main concern is strip mined, lifeless soils
tooomanystevesgotbanned
My objection is the power this gives Monsanto as the pesticide-resistant seed it sells is sterile; you have to buy it again every year.
PrincessPainInTheAss
But they aren't sterile, well at least not 100%. The second generation of the crop just isn't as productive as the first.
farmlyfe
Also not true, the seeds are not sterile. They are able to be brought to seed and replanted, but they are patented and therefore illegal
PrincessPainInTheAss
I stated that they are not sterile so were am I not truthful?
farmlyfe
There’s no issue with production of the second generation of a GE seed
farmlyfe
Terminator technology was abandoned long ago. The seeds are not sterile. They can be brought to seed and planted again but Monsanto will sue
gkcaputo24
Agreed, Monsanto is terribly corrupt. Can we trust any of these corps to produce an viable seed for the long term? I don't
mobiusplane
If you're doing a Masters in Ecology, you'd see all the studies showing a marked increase of insect resistance causing MORE pesticide use.
Pooprocketpower
A master's in ecology doesn't include much about farms and GMOs, unless that's your research topic.
mobiusplane
Not to mention herbicide use spikes with GMO crops too. Plenty of studies out there...
mobiusplane
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/09/01/492091546/how-gmos-cut-the-use-of-pesticides-and-perhaps-boosted-them-again
ClassicSean
Except for the ones engineered to accept way more pesticides?
twozerooz
Pesticide resistant crops were developed in the 90s as the very first generation
farmlyfe
Pesticide resistant means that the plant does not die when you apply pesticides, meaning more pesticide application not less
twozerooz
That isn't relevant to my comment. Please reread.
FarmerFrance
No, they use a B.T. resistance which, to oversimplify, makes it taste bad to most bugs. Usually it's herbicide we want resistance to.
farmlyfe
What in the world...? This is false. Also herbicides are a form of pesticides.
FarmerFrance
Plants have no need to be protected from pesticides, they kill pests, not plants. They breed bt resistance which essentially repels bugs..
FarmerFrance
But there's no reason too breed plants to be resistant to it. Herbicide is not pesticide. Different things entirely
farmlyfe
Herbicides are a form of pesticides, as are insecticides and fungicides
idonthaveauser
There are lots of GMOs with high resistance to pesticides, so farmers can spray more killing everything except the crops.
FarmerFrance
No, that's herbicide. Not pesticides. Very important distinction.
FarmerFrance
What kills a plant doesn't kill bugs.
HowFarmsWork
Just to clarify, pesticides are a blanket word covering insecticides, herbicides, and fungicides.
FarmerFrance
No, herbicide are not pesticides. Applied similarly but are different things entirely.
FarmerFrance
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/difference-between-herbicides-fungicides-pesticides-73609.html
reykjavikparadise
Why ppl hate GMO foods and refuse to learn is beyond me. Pretty much everything in your grocery store has been crossbred and modified
babycheesehead
Misinformation by the Russians
SlightlyDodgy
Not by forcing DNA from other species into the mix they haven't.
Samoht
People think "Genetically Modified" means some scientists with microscopes changing the genes around willy-nilly, causing cancers.
therealCuchulain
Label it then and let us decide if we want it, or not.
pinkhoo
And we don't want it. That's the thing. We don't really need it, either. It isn't really producing more or using less pesticides.
benkey1
It was beyond me until Measles outbreaks started to pop up and I knew anti vaxxers were actually out there. No longer surprised by humans.
Dedeurmetdebaard
Could you please type in the barcode? I don't want no laser touching my food.
MyDadsIphone
AmIAUniquePersonality
Google "Gilles-Éric Seralini". He basically is to GMOs what Andrew Wakefield is to vaccines.
Fusstin
My sister-in-law said she hate GMOS and the next sentence said she loves seedless watermelon.
MyDadsIphone
It the bad press about modern day share cropping with more expensive modified seeds. That and everything causes cancer now ♂️
ChemicalPorpoise
Its not that they refuse to learn about GMOs, but that they refuse to learn. Googling something and reading up on it is harder than 1/2
ChemicalPorpoise
blindly raging at something with a bunch of other like minded people.
JustAnotherLinkInTheChain
A mix of terrible blogs, misinformation, and downright stupid people
CurlySwede
Well, it's also the part that several GMO producers use some shitty policies, though that's less of a issue now.
AwkwardGirl4691
like the anti-vaxxers?
Prayers4Jebus
This!!
pinkhoo
But the difference is nobody else in the world wants this. Six companies in four countries make GMO food and the rest of the world won't.
BadgerMushroomSnake
Biotechnology researcher here. You'll never insert bacteria DNA into corn by crossbreeding. Two very different things
HappyShark
Can you explain for the ignorant
BeerFueledAdventurer
Corn can't reproduce with bacteria. Corn CAN reproduce with other strains of corn or near genetic relatives (ie. cross-breading)
HowFarmsWork
Plants can however evolve over time to develop symbiotic relationships with bacteria, like how Soybeans create nodules to support mycorrhiza
TheShoulderTornado
Indigo agriculture is actually working on treating seeds with specific strains of microbes to increase plant growth in various conditions
BoopleFloop
What about sweet potatoes? Don't they have bacteria DNA through something like that? Pro GMO btw, not knockin it.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
But of it's a GMO, it very well could have been. Cross breeding is called selective breeding. Two very distinct and different things.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
They mention that food can be both.
victell
Crossbreeding and selective breeding is not the same thing as genetic modification.
reykjavikparadise
Hmm selecting traits you want in an organism to have and descarding the ones you don't to pass of to its offspring sounds same to me
Everyfootisalegend
The method is the difference. One is breeding further to intensify traits, the other is modifying DNA in a lab. Ignoring this = Astroturfing
DarkZalgo
You're right, modifying it in a lab is MUCH easier, more accurate, and probably cheaper.
SoccerKeeper00
So, we found a more effective way to modify plants. Sounds good to me.
pinkhoo
You make pro-GMO people look stupid, though. I think since GMO food isn't producing more yield or needs less pesticides it's not worth it.
lurkingnooby
gmo in the Us has not accelerated increases in crop yields or led to an overall reduction in the use of chemical pesticides. Link: 1/2
lurkingnooby
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/business/gmo-promise-falls-short.html. 2/2
BlacksMcNutt
But that is from the NY Times, so we can usually discount that
therealCuchulain
Sure, if you’re a moron.