Battle of the Chesapeake, the day the French Navy told the Brits "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" while simultaneously telling Washington he could have a little Yorktown, as a treat.
Old habits i guess ? I've learned recently how the common french citizen was describe to a WW2 US Soldier before their first time to France and it was wild
Yep, after the revolution France offered to broker a peace treaty between the UK and America, but used that to try to screw America for their own interests. America went directly to the UK who gave the new USA a far better deal.
In return... 1914, 1915, 1916, France "Hommes, guys, need aidez, too many Germans..." *crickets* 1917 France "GUYS! Germans! The brits hired them as mercenaries remember." US "Oh fuck right, be right there." ... ... ... 1939, 1940, "Hommes, guys, need aidez, too many Germans..." *crickets* 1941 French govt in exile "They're allied to the Japanese who just bombed you..." US "Oh fuck right, hmmm though give us a couple or three years, no hurry right, they already got everything."
France used to own Great Britain back in the 1000s. In fact, they passed a law in Britain that all aristocracy had to speak french and the commoners spoke english.
Additionally, the Normans (norse) had already conquered France and claimed the northern portion as Normandy. So it's more accurate to say that France was the warm up for the Normans.
Not the French, but the Normans; Vikings who settled in NW France, and adopted French language. After 1066 French became the language of court. Aristocracy needed to speak French to attend court. French was already the language of diplomacy (the lingua franca, if you will) France didn't own England, the Normans stopped being French, and became English
No such law existed. It was a class distinction. When the Normans invaded in 1066, the new aristocracy in England (Great Britain covers a lot of land the Normans didn't take over, namely Wales and Scotland) all spoke French so French was the language at court for a couple centuries, but after the kingdom lost Normandy in 1204 French was on its way out.
Yeah, I'm not big on english history, so what I wrote is about it...I just was curious as to why in English we have a word for the animal and a different word for what we eat...Cow, Beef....Chicken, Poultry.....Pig, Pork....in German, they don't do that...In english they do because the aristocracy didn't slaughter the animal, they just ate the meat...so they referred to it as Beef whereas the poors referred to it as Cow...
There are plenty of other languages who have different words for animal & meat from said animal. German is just one of the languages where it doesn't happen to be that way. Chicken/poultry is also a bad example, since it doesn't mean the same. Poultry includes duck, turkey and other birds and afair for those the same word is used for the animal and the meat, even in english.
That's...not really accurate. After 1066, the aristocracy *were* French, in a Norman, Frenchified Viking sort of way. But they held England independently, not as owned or part of France.
I am baffled at the English insisting on the word Norman. Maybe it's some sort of coping mechanism, that would be too difficult to admit the French did it. Yet 70% of the troops at Hastings were French soldiers, only 30% from Normandy.
But it was an invasion of the duchy of Normandy, who then became kings in England. Not the King of France. It's not the peasant soldiers that define global politics, unfortunately.
yup, and when they reversed during the 100 years war it was one of the events that made the brititsh loose the war. reverting to english in the middle of the war, this coupled with too harsh pillagings made the british loose the 100 years war. the french people started to hate the british with passion, and making any conquest of their land impossible. on a side note as a french i'm happy english is now world #1 language. much simpler to french that sometimes flirts with ridiculous with genre+
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Netherlands#Statenvlag Was a lighter blue, evolved to a darker blue during the French Revolutionary Wars as the tricolor inspired the new French tricolor, and then the French tricolor reinspired the Dutch trciolor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flags_of_the_Un">d_States">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flags_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#History Particularly messy, as they had barely started nation-building and standardization was anathema. The pattern of adding a star for each state but keeping 13 stripes wasn't fully established until 1818.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_France#Kingdom_of_France Probably the most dramatic difference, as France was still a monarchy at the time, and the French Revolution only a little while later was *dramatically* in favor of removing the old monarchist symbols in favor of new revolutionary ones. The flag with the blue field and the yellow fleur-de-lis is probably the most relevant for the American revolution.
Bundalicious
This will be all countries helping out Greenland soon
ThaneofGlamis
“C’est une fucking pomme”
WeirdoIIC
Battle of the Chesapeake, the day the French Navy told the Brits "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" while simultaneously telling Washington he could have a little Yorktown, as a treat.
Ggbambi
Yah bro we got friends, right. ❤️
bookwormfromspain
Look up this dude called Bernardo de Gálvez. Yes, the one Galveston TX is named after. Interesting stuff
SilverDust133
Why does the US talk mad shit towards the French?
BlueSheep
Old habits i guess ? I've learned recently how the common french citizen was describe to a WW2 US Soldier before their first time to France and it was wild
Telemapus
FRANCE: Okay so we helped you guys can you repa....
US: We're gonna sit this one out.
FRANCE: It's against the British.
US: ...
FRANCE: Hello?
CarlBassett
Yep, after the revolution France offered to broker a peace treaty between the UK and America, but used that to try to screw America for their own interests. America went directly to the UK who gave the new USA a far better deal.
BorkSamson
People forget this glaring fact so fuckin often. ty
YpsilantiRomani
France: hey can you help us scene we just helped you.
America: New country how dis.
JasonWaterfaIIs
Lirn to spel jockarse!
MrStealYourGiF
In return... 1914, 1915, 1916, France "Hommes, guys, need aidez, too many Germans..." *crickets* 1917 France "GUYS! Germans! The brits hired them as mercenaries remember." US "Oh fuck right, be right there." ... ... ... 1939, 1940, "Hommes, guys, need aidez, too many Germans..." *crickets* 1941 French govt in exile "They're allied to the Japanese who just bombed you..." US "Oh fuck right, hmmm though give us a couple or three years, no hurry right, they already got everything."
OrkenMork
France used to own Great Britain back in the 1000s. In fact, they passed a law in Britain that all aristocracy had to speak french and the commoners spoke english.
MapleSyrupMafia
So that's why that French knight was in that castle in England...
ActionJohnnie
Fentex
Bit incorrect - Normans (not France) conquered England, not Britain - the whole Welsh, Scots, English thing (let alone France) is more involved.
Blethigg
Additionally, the Normans (norse) had already conquered France and claimed the northern portion as Normandy. So it's more accurate to say that France was the warm up for the Normans.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Not the French, but the Normans; Vikings who settled in NW France, and adopted French language. After 1066 French became the language of court. Aristocracy needed to speak French to attend court. French was already the language of diplomacy (the lingua franca, if you will) France didn't own England, the Normans stopped being French, and became English
eion85
No such law existed. It was a class distinction. When the Normans invaded in 1066, the new aristocracy in England (Great Britain covers a lot of land the Normans didn't take over, namely Wales and Scotland) all spoke French so French was the language at court for a couple centuries, but after the kingdom lost Normandy in 1204 French was on its way out.
OrkenMork
Yeah, I'm not big on english history, so what I wrote is about it...I just was curious as to why in English we have a word for the animal and a different word for what we eat...Cow, Beef....Chicken, Poultry.....Pig, Pork....in German, they don't do that...In english they do because the aristocracy didn't slaughter the animal, they just ate the meat...so they referred to it as Beef whereas the poors referred to it as Cow...
Sternfeuer
There are plenty of other languages who have different words for animal & meat from said animal. German is just one of the languages where it doesn't happen to be that way. Chicken/poultry is also a bad example, since it doesn't mean the same. Poultry includes duck, turkey and other birds and afair for those the same word is used for the animal and the meat, even in english.
eion85
This is largely correct. It was a cultural divide, not a lead one.
Beef and pork didn't enter English until after 1300, when French was already on its way out.
JayDeeDubs
That's...not really accurate. After 1066, the aristocracy *were* French, in a Norman, Frenchified Viking sort of way. But they held England independently, not as owned or part of France.
GordonFreeman59
I am baffled at the English insisting on the word Norman. Maybe it's some sort of coping mechanism, that would be too difficult to admit the French did it. Yet 70% of the troops at Hastings were French soldiers, only 30% from Normandy.
dashers
But it was an invasion of the duchy of Normandy, who then became kings in England. Not the King of France. It's not the peasant soldiers that define global politics, unfortunately.
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
Henry the Fifth enters the chat...
SortaSordid
And yet, much to the chagrin of the French, English is now the world's lingua franca.
PicassoCT
Pretentious parasite, arrogant imbecile, mediocre caricature, perfidious poltroon!
MuffinProof
Jadoon platoon upon the moon
OrkenMork
I see what you did there...
chichiFregiLover
yup, and when they reversed during the 100 years war it was one of the events that made the brititsh loose the war. reverting to english in the middle of the war, this coupled with too harsh pillagings made the british loose the 100 years war. the french people started to hate the british with passion, and making any conquest of their land impossible. on a side note as a french i'm happy english is now world #1 language. much simpler to french that sometimes flirts with ridiculous with genre+
chichiFregiLover
for objects
EMHPicardo
TheNameIWantedWasTakenSoIEndedUpWithThisOneInStead
How was Luxembourgh involved exactly?
Leviosoooohhhh
The 17 people living there saw a British person drink tea in their country and said "Absolutely fukken not"
TheNameIWantedWasTakenSoIEndedUpWithThisOneInStead
I was having a little stab at how it's probably supposed to be the Dutch flag, but the blue color is closer to that of Luxembourg.
TheNameIWantedWasTakenSoIEndedUpWithThisOneInStead
chichiFregiLover
😄
3Davideo
Of course none of those were the contemporaneous flags in use at the time, but whatever.
Atratvs
I would like to see the correct ones.
semurua
3Davideo
This vexillologies me.
3Davideo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain#Philip_V_and_the_new_Bourbon_dynasty Previously was white with a coat of arms to emphasize the Bourbon ruling house. Changed by 1785 to the red-yellow-red to be much more easily distinguished from other nations' flags.
3Davideo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Netherlands#Statenvlag Was a lighter blue, evolved to a darker blue during the French Revolutionary Wars as the tricolor inspired the new French tricolor, and then the French tricolor reinspired the Dutch trciolor.
3Davideo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flags_of_the_Un">d_States">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flags_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#History Particularly messy, as they had barely started nation-building and standardization was anathema. The pattern of adding a star for each state but keeping 13 stripes wasn't fully established until 1818.
3Davideo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_France#Kingdom_of_France Probably the most dramatic difference, as France was still a monarchy at the time, and the French Revolution only a little while later was *dramatically* in favor of removing the old monarchist symbols in favor of new revolutionary ones. The flag with the blue field and the yellow fleur-de-lis is probably the most relevant for the American revolution.