The entire conservative ideology boils down to this. Let "that" group suffer from this policy. Oh wait, this negatively affects me? I don't like it anymore
They're the sort that turns their suffering into more bitterness and hatred; they're the ones that say "I got treated like shit, so now it's YOUR turn."
It's the first time he's noticed. Tons of shit affected him before, but either in indirect ways, or ways he could absorb without difficulty, or at least comfort himself that his perceived enemies were hurt more by it.
He's complaining about a data center being built near him. It took building a noisy, polluting building literally right next to him for him to notice policies actually affecting him. Everything else was too abstract/indirect and/or he could blame others, like immigrants, for it.
Dave, I cannot sit in the middle of the East Texas piney woods and not be concerned about what goes on in Austin. ;-D Being rural doesn't give you an excuse to check out.
There's two forms of empathy: Affective empathy, i.e. empathy for those literally right in front of you, and cognitive empathy, i.e. empathy for people you don't directly know. Lots of people have affective empathy, which is why they can care about family members, friends, neighbors, etc. However, cognitive empathy is either underdeveloped in many, or it can be short-circuited by "othering" certain groups of people. Hell, even affective empathy can be cut off by othering.
Thanks for sharing that. I think this feeds the false conception that they're not a huge pile of shit. When they're called out for not having empathy, they can't accept that because they know they DO have it and on the level you describe, they're correct. They might be really sweet with dogs or kids, their church community, etc.
So they can't understand how Christo-Fascism could exist for example. it seems like an oxymoron. They are often charitable in many ways, and some are net +
Combination prison/data-center. Privacy-invading servers powered by prisoners running on giant wheels. Don't worry, we'll still burn barrels of oil on site just to own the libs.
EVERY societal step forward was born of cooperation. Society *is* cooperation.
War can redraw borders, and technology can make some things easier (usually), but they don't progress society. People working together to make life better has always been the reason.
And also — the things they get told are important are really just bizarre corner cases. That one guy at my game group who seems to lean right had a Ton to say about that woman who murdered her kids, but hadn't actually heard of diesel hitting >6.
Taking care of yourself is the bare minimum for just staying alive. If they can't manage ANYTHING more than that, they have no business telling ANYONE what is or isn't a show of strength, or sign of weakness.
If people are allowed to they can develop the ability, even if delayed. A rare few genuinely can't and there's no way to know the difference until they're given the opportunity to change.
I'd say it's sort of both. When I started learning the darker sides of US history & using the experience of others in political conversation with my right-wing family, they were quick to ridicule me & my "liberal education." So while most right-wingers (like my family) seem incapable of empathy toward other humans they don't personally know, I'd argue that others aren't allowed to express that without fear of ridicule & being ostracized by their community, which can be a powerful thing. 1/2
Not saying it's right or ok to prefer to live with your head up your own ass about the world around you just because everyone else in your life does- just that fear of losing your community is a strong motivator in the human psyche. Some of us have overcome that and built new communities with shared values of empathy, critical thinking, etc. 2/2.
Further proof they lack any form of empathy or worldview outside of arm's reach. They literally cannot understand anything but personal pleasure or personal pain, and can't physically imagine anything outside of that. It's just gross and a huge impact on why we are where we are.
Imagine being old enough that your beard is white and this is the first time ever that a political issue has directly impacted you. An entire life where the daily vicissitudes of American politics have never even cast a shadow on you. Republicans hate discussions around the concept of privilege but good god is there any greater statement of privilege than that?
They’re also obsessed with the idea that life is a game and the way to “win” is to “beat” everyone else. That’s why they want to make sure nobody else gets any help with anything.
Zero sum thinking. This is why conservatives get incredibly upset at the sight of two men holding hands and just being happy. They being happy means they conservative cannot be happy. Thus, this is a form of attack on the conservative which triggers their victimhood complex. This then allows them to do acts of evil as a means to justify self defense for their victimhood.
"socialism for me not for thee" is a tactic used by conservatives. You should be calling for an end of economic violence, not wishing it to be used against even more people. Be better
"Taking the high road" is not calling someone names just because they called you names. Not using economic violence against people isn't "taking the high road", it's you not violating their human rights.
Retribution politics has literally never ended well
That happened to the dairy farm where my mom grew up. Apparently my grandfather and his brother were the holdouts who didn't want to sell the land but another family member took the offer and fucked off to North Carolina with the money. That branch of the family I don't even know got rich. Houston got to build Intercontinental Airport (now named after Bush) and my Grandfather and his other brother got nothing. Remnants of their house were still at the end of a runway until about a decade ago.
Yeah, we know, but come on dude, we are allowed to wish for a funny balancing of the scales every now and then. He will likely learn nothing from this experience, and *still* blame the "guberment" anyways. Look at what it takes for these folks to notice these companies impact people, eh.
That would be fantastic. I'd love to watch the video where he finds out and finds out the government is going to give him 1/5th of what it's worth. I mean "market value"
The gov sets "fair market value" so they'll lowball him, we'll get about a month of news where he and his buddies try to fight the law like those ranchers did with fed land about 4 years ago, and then they'll just take it and he'll get nothing. Either way he gets 0, but i do like seeing them get shit on by their own votes.
Happened to someone i knew twice with the same property. Highway then a powerline. He went to sue saying he was left with a property that was worthless.
My aunt had enough of a street front property taken that she couldn't put a building in it. She eventually fought to get a billboard put up, because otherwise she effectively had no use for the remaining property.
Taking my tax dollars to subsidize his farm, and somehow he has earned all of his money so he voted against people getting subsidized by my tax dollars. Well, except for farms. Of course.
Um, you aren't understanding the comment. Read the other guy's comment + mine: "His inherited farm, that he didn't work in any way to acquire" ... "that federal farm subsidies have supported for decades." .... .... ps: I shoulda prefaced the comment with ...
Because they're just glad there aren't many minorities in their towns. Many red states are as much as 85% white or higher, KY, ND, SD, WY, MT, ID, NB, etc.
You're conservative because you don't want bad things to happen to you, I'm liberal because I don't want bad things to happen to anyone, except nazis and pedophiles, nazis and pedophiles can eat all the dicks.
Groups that exist only to cause harm don't count. Wanting good things to happen to regular people means wanting very BAD things to happen to VERY BAD people. People who've showed us time and again that they will never stop UNLESS stopped. Hell, now they're bragging about it.
Many people are conservative because they want bad things to happen to others. It would be one thing if they were merely selfish. At least then they could be trusted to not vote against their own best interest. But they're so eager to see white supremacy and their twisted religious "morality" enforced by law that they'll happily shoot themselves and their ingroup in the collective foot as long as outgroups suffer even more.
osickofit247
The entire conservative ideology boils down to this.
Let "that" group suffer from this policy.
Oh wait, this negatively affects me? I don't like it anymore
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
I was expecting that to be a post from the onion not 60 minutes
n0n53n53
probably also says "there is no white male privilege"
areyouelonmusk
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
Every last problem humanity has is empathy, or lack thereof.
usnerd55
"I am not what you'd call a smart man..."
RadicalRecluse
"sooo weird, im not supposed to be impacted by my vote???"
foxpotate
I hope that Republican fuckhead ends up homeless. These nazis need to suffer until they learn true empathy.
OhIfIMust
They're the sort that turns their suffering into more bitterness and hatred; they're the ones that say "I got treated like shit, so now it's YOUR turn."
Metalsmith21
Imagine growing up being told that life is supposed to be this shitty.
meme2zombie
Holy privilege to go that long without something affecting them personally.
Also ignorance, but still one that they can't ignore took that long.
marsilies
It's the first time he's noticed. Tons of shit affected him before, but either in indirect ways, or ways he could absorb without difficulty, or at least comfort himself that his perceived enemies were hurt more by it.
geekstudios
Will he learn from this? He will not.
DCon101
They only care when it affects them
sascottsn
I mean, I feel sorry for whoever his new neighbors are gonna be wherever he moves to.
spontaneous9
Cue the Walter clip from The Big Lebowski about what happens when a stranger fucks you in the ass.
marsilies
I'm pretty sure he was yelling about a when you find a stranger in the Alps.
Giantmutantcrab
Conservatism is a death cult, a hate group and a bottomless pit of stupidity, fascism and pedophilia.
hamulusrex
Bs. It happened in Trumps first term and during Bushs. If I'm old enough to remember then so would he.
marsilies
He's complaining about a data center being built near him. It took building a noisy, polluting building literally right next to him for him to notice policies actually affecting him. Everything else was too abstract/indirect and/or he could blame others, like immigrants, for it.
Insmnyk
If you ever want to show someone an example of living a privileged life, show them this.
AmZero85
Reminder: the 2nd half of the boomer generation used to be referred to as the "ME" generation. Remember that when they try to call others entitled.
TheVillageGrouch9000
Not all of us. An always progressive now Democratic Socialist late Boomer here.
OhIfIMust
Yeah, no shit, you stupid fuck.
Iaimtomisbehave
Dave, I cannot sit in the middle of the East Texas piney woods and not be concerned about what goes on in Austin. ;-D Being rural doesn't give you an excuse to check out.
ToddTheTerrible
What he meant to say was “adversely” affect me. If he farms/ranches the Fed have given him subsidies and insurance.
LitterBoxKing
Republicans are proof that as a species, human beings are all-too-commonly bereft of empathy.
marsilies
There's two forms of empathy: Affective empathy, i.e. empathy for those literally right in front of you, and cognitive empathy, i.e. empathy for people you don't directly know. Lots of people have affective empathy, which is why they can care about family members, friends, neighbors, etc. However, cognitive empathy is either underdeveloped in many, or it can be short-circuited by "othering" certain groups of people. Hell, even affective empathy can be cut off by othering.
johneventually1
Thanks for sharing that. I think this feeds the false conception that they're not a huge pile of shit. When they're called out for not having empathy, they can't accept that because they know they DO have it and on the level you describe, they're correct. They might be really sweet with dogs or kids, their church community, etc.
So they can't understand how Christo-Fascism could exist for example. it seems like an oxymoron. They are often charitable in many ways, and some are net +
johneventually1
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wejustdontknow
When people ask what white privilege is, here you go. THIS guy has NEVER been impacted by his vote.
PennysWorthOfTea
White privilege plus the privilege that comes with being a man (&, presumably, not disabled).
wejustdontknow
Agreed
darthstormer
GOP is the party of "it's not a problem until it directly affects me, personally"
johneventually1
Data centers or prisons. Pick your poison. We gotta build something that makes the world worse in multiple ways at once.
darthstormer
Combination prison/data-center. Privacy-invading servers powered by prisoners running on giant wheels. Don't worry, we'll still burn barrels of oil on site just to own the libs.
johneventually1
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Garwoodxx
Every man for himself is not how society works. It is propaganda from the 1% to justify their greed and indifference.
zHurk777
republicans: Every man for himself. ... Democrats: One For All and All For One. ... ... republicans: In god we trust. ... Democrats: E Pluribus Unum.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Democrats are more cooperative than republicans but your being a little to charitable about a political party that went right of center decades ago
DukeDarkwood
EVERY societal step forward was born of cooperation. Society *is* cooperation.
War can redraw borders, and technology can make some things easier (usually), but they don't progress society. People working together to make life better has always been the reason.
JohnThatcher
"Obviously you're poor because you haven't 'for yourself'd hard enough. You should work longer hours and need some minorities to hate."
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
Republicans are not allowed to empathize nor sympathize, therefore they must be hit over the head with an issue in order for it to matter.
lostlittletimeonthis
It's a stark comparison to their perceived dangers that are culture wars made up crap
RadicalRecluse
also, the people that have not been directly impacted yet will just call him a libtard and move on.
astrangehop
And also — the things they get told are important are really just bizarre corner cases. That one guy at my game group who seems to lean right had a Ton to say about that woman who murdered her kids, but hadn't actually heard of diesel hitting >6.
zHurk777
Empathy Isn't A Word !!! Charlie Kirk Said So !!! - magas.
OhIfIMust
"The Sin of Empathy"
WillemHellfire
I think Hitler espoused this mindset.
eromitlab
They consider empathy weakness, and they hate weakness
NonstopRampage
Taking care of yourself is the bare minimum for just staying alive. If they can't manage ANYTHING more than that, they have no business telling ANYONE what is or isn't a show of strength, or sign of weakness.
Omicron416
No, they're not able to, being "allowed" has nothing to do with it.
antikytherion
If people are allowed to they can develop the ability, even if delayed. A rare few genuinely can't and there's no way to know the difference until they're given the opportunity to change.
arthonnen93
I'd say it's sort of both. When I started learning the darker sides of US history & using the experience of others in political conversation with my right-wing family, they were quick to ridicule me & my "liberal education." So while most right-wingers (like my family) seem incapable of empathy toward other humans they don't personally know, I'd argue that others aren't allowed to express that without fear of ridicule & being ostracized by their community, which can be a powerful thing. 1/2
arthonnen93
Not saying it's right or ok to prefer to live with your head up your own ass about the world around you just because everyone else in your life does- just that fear of losing your community is a strong motivator in the human psyche. Some of us have overcome that and built new communities with shared values of empathy, critical thinking, etc. 2/2.
VizierTempus
Further proof they lack any form of empathy or worldview outside of arm's reach. They literally cannot understand anything but personal pleasure or personal pain, and can't physically imagine anything outside of that. It's just gross and a huge impact on why we are where we are.
ElroyJetsonEsq
Imagine being old enough that your beard is white and this is the first time ever that a political issue has directly impacted you. An entire life where the daily vicissitudes of American politics have never even cast a shadow on you. Republicans hate discussions around the concept of privilege but good god is there any greater statement of privilege than that?
stephseviltwinII
But they keep asking for empathy, and think for some reason they deserve it
walterPPK
They’re also obsessed with the idea that life is a game and the way to “win” is to “beat” everyone else. That’s why they want to make sure nobody else gets any help with anything.
Zeddicuszull
Zero sum thinking. This is why conservatives get incredibly upset at the sight of two men holding hands and just being happy. They being happy means they conservative cannot be happy. Thus, this is a form of attack on the conservative which triggers their victimhood complex. This then allows them to do acts of evil as a means to justify self defense for their victimhood.
downrightmike
They should eminent domain his farm so he really learns his lesson
Trunkmonkay
"socialism for me not for thee" is a tactic used by conservatives. You should be calling for an end of economic violence, not wishing it to be used against even more people. Be better
Kerbal247
Yes, because taking the high-road has worked so well for the last (checks notes...) 40 years for non-repubs.
Trunkmonkay
"Taking the high road" is not calling someone names just because they called you names. Not using economic violence against people isn't "taking the high road", it's you not violating their human rights.
Retribution politics has literally never ended well
SteelyDad
Do you want John Birchers? Because that is exactly how you get John Birchers...
downrightmike
We literally already have that in spades
mirrorz
That happened to the dairy farm where my mom grew up. Apparently my grandfather and his brother were the holdouts who didn't want to sell the land but another family member took the offer and fucked off to North Carolina with the money. That branch of the family I don't even know got rich. Houston got to build Intercontinental Airport (now named after Bush) and my Grandfather and his other brother got nothing. Remnants of their house were still at the end of a runway until about a decade ago.
Spidey209
They been paying him to grow no crops. Seems only fair that the People get something useful out of his tax dodge, I mean, farm.
pgdave
That will just make him dislike the existence of government more.
InTangier
Yeah, we know, but come on dude, we are allowed to wish for a funny balancing of the scales every now and then. He will likely learn nothing from this experience, and *still* blame the "guberment" anyways. Look at what it takes for these folks to notice these companies impact people, eh.
awkungen42
That would be fantastic. I'd love to watch the video where he finds out and finds out the government is going to give him 1/5th of what it's worth. I mean "market value"
thedudeman519
Honestly I'm surprised Trump isn't doing that
It' was his go to for a while
kriswinters
No, if they eminent domain it, they have to buy it from him. Just build the data center, and let his fair market value drop to 0.
tentacularfleshscape
Drink his fuckin milkshake https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1cnBiMDNoMWI2bjFwanRxMGt5dzYxdGp6NjY2ejM4YXFxbWI2cjY3aSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/yv104URDdt3u95MVMj/200w.webp
bril350
Ya but they can (will) buy it for dirt ass cheap
backrideup9
The gov sets "fair market value" so they'll lowball him, we'll get about a month of news where he and his buddies try to fight the law like those ranchers did with fed land about 4 years ago, and then they'll just take it and he'll get nothing. Either way he gets 0, but i do like seeing them get shit on by their own votes.
Whenthepiecesaresmalltaketwo
Eminent domain pays crap. My dad’s house was eminent domain to widen a road. Paid about half of its worth as a house in that neighborhood
alcamar
THEN eminent domain it - Capitalism baby!
InablueMule
Happened to someone i knew twice with the same property. Highway then a powerline. He went to sue saying he was left with a property that was worthless.
alcamar
My aunt had enough of a street front property taken that she couldn't put a building in it. She eventually fought to get a billboard put up, because otherwise she effectively had no use for the remaining property.
notmyrealface
Less private farms are bad for all.
bolinotoyou
His inherited farm, that he didn't work in any way to acquire
LiberalViking
While true in most cases like this.... do you blame them for their privilege?
bolinotoyou
If they're a bigot, entitled, and generally out of touch, definitely
zHurk777
That federal farm subsidies have supported for decades.
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
Taking my tax dollars to subsidize his farm, and somehow he has earned all of his money so he voted against people getting subsidized by my tax dollars. Well, except for farms. Of course.
Fucking republicans. I hate you all.
zHurk777
Um, you aren't understanding the comment. Read the other guy's comment + mine: "His inherited farm, that he didn't work in any way to acquire" ... "that federal farm subsidies have supported for decades." .... .... ps: I shoulda prefaced the comment with ...
martineb72
ICE will see his brown color and deport him.
HummingBirrb
I want Republicans to have a taste of their own medicine!
downrightmike
They get it time and again and never learn
zHurk777
Because they're just glad there aren't many minorities in their towns. Many red states are as much as 85% white or higher, KY, ND, SD, WY, MT, ID, NB, etc.
downrightmike
That's what happens when first cousins marry
249bE35thSt
Couldn’t they just Annex his property and give him nothing?
zHurk777
Um, probably not. He would probably receive fair market value, probably based on the most recent assessment.
SleepyHollowAppleTree
You're conservative because you don't want bad things to happen to you, I'm liberal because I don't want bad things to happen to anyone, except nazis and pedophiles, nazis and pedophiles can eat all the dicks.
LurkMasterP
"see? I told you libs are hateful towards us for no reason!" - conservatives, typically.
NonstopRampage
Groups that exist only to cause harm don't count. Wanting good things to happen to regular people means wanting very BAD things to happen to VERY BAD people. People who've showed us time and again that they will never stop UNLESS stopped. Hell, now they're bragging about it.
Gryzwnt
You shouldn't disparage dick eaters by associating them with these people...
Seriously though, what do you do when there are no insults left that aren't better than the people you're insulting?
TheobromineAddict
No, make them eat shit. They might enjoy eating dick.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Many people are conservative because they want bad things to happen to others. It would be one thing if they were merely selfish. At least then they could be trusted to not vote against their own best interest. But they're so eager to see white supremacy and their twisted religious "morality" enforced by law that they'll happily shoot themselves and their ingroup in the collective foot as long as outgroups suffer even more.
seanmccorkle
Let their epitaths read
"They did it for spite"
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
DimwitF
No! They don't get to eat _good_ greasy bags of Dick's.
TresusIbor
That looks good. I want some Dicks in my mouth...