I imagine when I'm super older I'll be saying what was the right thing to say now but it will not be the 'right' thing then. I just hope they understand I've maxed out my words.
I'm deaf and i really don't have time for all the polite ways people can word that. I don't give a shit if some people might think it's slightly more negative than another word. Doesn't change my life in any way
Considering they've been the correct terms since at least the middle of the last century, yes. Disability doesn't need euphemisms, that's the entire point.
We used special needs at a school when I was a teacher to cover anyone who needed extra services, including gifted students. Not sure what they use now.
Oh it's definitely alive and kicking. I think there's been a slight shift towards 'additional needs' at least in the UK, but I'm not a huge fan of that either - disabled children have the same fundamental needs as their peers, just the default system might not be able to meet those needs without providing tailored support. (And 'twice exceptional' that they use in the US for gifted kids who also have a disability makes my skin crawl.)
#1 anytime I meet a homie with a cane out in public, I always greet 'em and refer to them as my biblical brother, regardless of gender identity. They're Cane, and I am their brother, Disabled.
Welcome to the era of "feelings". We can't teach about racism because it might hurt someone's "feelings". We cannot use accurate terms like blind or deaf because it might hurt "feelings". Children cannot be corrected if it would hurt their "feelings".
Did you watch the video? The whole point was to use accurate terms. Disability doesn't need any euphemisms. 'blind' and 'deaf' are accurate terms, and in fact are used to describe parts of people's identities so they're very much embraced by the people whom they describe.
Also, this person teaches about all sorts of societal injustice INCLUDING racism, very much so.
We're gonna catch hate for this. But we should take this word back. We aren't and haven't been (for a long while) referring to or making negative comparisons with disabled persons of any sort. We specifically and only using retard to identify (negatively, and with extreme prejudice) willfully ignorant cunts.
I to agree with retard as it is accurate to the original term; to hold back or restrict. It's not specific but if talking in generalities, being mentally retarded means that you are held back in those faculties.
But I think there's too much negative connotation around it to ever be used in any mainstream or professional setting for a very long time.
Nope, it is still a harmful slur. And its harm is still so potent that only a few individuals within the groups that are hurt by it even have any desire to reclaim it. If you are not in one of those groups, there is no 'we', and if you are in one of those groups then you should already know the desire to reclaim the word is limited to individuals rather than something the majority of the group wants (like 'queer' within the LGBT+ community).
Alao reclaiming slurs is with the objective of the harmed group using them in a positive way about themselves, usually claiming it as part of their identities, NOT with the objective of wielding it to hurt other people. That's not reclaiming a slur, that's simply using it as the slur it is.
Well put. Perhaps the best course of action is to come up with a new improved word for dumb cunts that is a slur identifiable only to that cunty cohort. And couldn’t be mistaken for ableism? A prize for the best suggestion! Appreciate the post @OP btw. TIL.
yoyopopo
I imagine when I'm super older I'll be saying what was the right thing to say now but it will not be the 'right' thing then. I just hope they understand I've maxed out my words.
Mohareb
I'm deaf and i really don't have time for all the polite ways people can word that. I don't give a shit if some people might think it's slightly more negative than another word. Doesn't change my life in any way
ClutterMonkey
Do we have any assurances that these will be the right terms *checks phone* 49 minutes from now?
RunawaySpoons
Considering they've been the correct terms since at least the middle of the last century, yes. Disability doesn't need euphemisms, that's the entire point.
cjpoet
I call myself disabled because I used to be able and now I'm not.
NotGoodAtUserNames1
We used special needs at a school when I was a teacher to cover anyone who needed extra services, including gifted students. Not sure what they use now.
RunawaySpoons
Oh it's definitely alive and kicking. I think there's been a slight shift towards 'additional needs' at least in the UK, but I'm not a huge fan of that either - disabled children have the same fundamental needs as their peers, just the default system might not be able to meet those needs without providing tailored support. (And 'twice exceptional' that they use in the US for gifted kids who also have a disability makes my skin crawl.)
ApplesdaKitty
#1 anytime I meet a homie with a cane out in public, I always greet 'em and refer to them as my biblical brother, regardless of gender identity. They're Cane, and I am their brother, Disabled.
Cain and Able, Cane and Disabled...
y'all better start laughing.
BlindGardener
Ah, the euphemism treadmill.
RunawaySpoons
That's the point, there is no need for euphemisms because disability isn't taboo and doesn't need any alternative terms in the first place.
BlindGardener
No worries, I understood.
RunawaySpoons
(Sorry I didn't notice your username the first time round! If I had, I might have realised you understood.)
BlindGardener
My username is a bit of a personal joke: I’m not actually blind, rather I’m deaf in one ear. :-)
MissDeeMeanor
Welcome to the era of "feelings". We can't teach about racism because it might hurt someone's "feelings". We cannot use accurate terms like blind or deaf because it might hurt "feelings". Children cannot be corrected if it would hurt their "feelings".
RunawaySpoons
Did you watch the video? The whole point was to use accurate terms. Disability doesn't need any euphemisms. 'blind' and 'deaf' are accurate terms, and in fact are used to describe parts of people's identities so they're very much embraced by the people whom they describe.
Also, this person teaches about all sorts of societal injustice INCLUDING racism, very much so.
InfocalypseRising
I've never once heard anyone suggest that "blind" or "deaf" are offensive.
Letstrythisonemotime
My coworkers are retarded. I'm qualified to say this as I have access to their work records.
RunawaySpoons
Unbelievable how many people think this is okay.
Seethreepeeoh
We're gonna catch hate for this. But we should take this word back. We aren't and haven't been (for a long while) referring to or making negative comparisons with disabled persons of any sort. We specifically and only using retard to identify (negatively, and with extreme prejudice) willfully ignorant cunts.
KainLamond
I to agree with retard as it is accurate to the original term; to hold back or restrict. It's not specific but if talking in generalities, being mentally retarded means that you are held back in those faculties.
But I think there's too much negative connotation around it to ever be used in any mainstream or professional setting for a very long time.
justherefortheconfession
So, you meant use it to refer to MAGAts?
Seethreepeeoh
Not exclusively. Theyre not all retards. Some are just cunts.
Letstrythisonemotime
It's just like using the F word to describe harley davidson riders. I feel like South Park gave me back a bit of power with that episode.
4EverZw
Such a great episode.
Seethreepeeoh
Harley riders are French?
Letstrythisonemotime
RunawaySpoons
Nope, it is still a harmful slur. And its harm is still so potent that only a few individuals within the groups that are hurt by it even have any desire to reclaim it. If you are not in one of those groups, there is no 'we', and if you are in one of those groups then you should already know the desire to reclaim the word is limited to individuals rather than something the majority of the group wants (like 'queer' within the LGBT+ community).
RunawaySpoons
Alao reclaiming slurs is with the objective of the harmed group using them in a positive way about themselves, usually claiming it as part of their identities, NOT with the objective of wielding it to hurt other people. That's not reclaiming a slur, that's simply using it as the slur it is.
Seethreepeeoh
Well put. Perhaps the best course of action is to come up with a new improved word for dumb cunts that is a slur identifiable only to that cunty cohort. And couldn’t be mistaken for ableism? A prize for the best suggestion! Appreciate the post @OP btw. TIL.