But EVERYONE has a right to a gun. Even that guy. (Satire) So, if he gets kicked off the range, you now have a careless asshole who owns a gun and has no opportunities to learn or stay proficient.
I was at a gun range and my pistol jammed. I put it down, facing down down range, and called the Range Master over. First thing he does, is pick it up and look down the barrel. Not kidding. This was in Michigan.
If I were that sweeper there would be absolutely nothing (short from actually shooting me) anyone could do to stop me from beating that idiot to death right then and there.
Ive been to the range a few times. Once, a casing bounced off the side and hit me in the temple. Freaked me out forna sec, but gun down, always pointed down range. Jeez people.
we had a moron like this at my range years ago. he got litteraly dragged out by 3 guys before he got his second excuse out and the owner immediatly started calling every other range in a 100 mile radius to ban him as well. turned out he went to the police station because he got dragged out. he then found out 2 of the guys dragging him were cops.
I’ve had hot brass cartridges go down my cleavage and I still had the presence of mind to set my weapon down (pointing down range) before shaking it out of my bra.
You can run it in slow motion with the slider below the video.
You’ll see the firearm discharge, and then the strap to the case at the left side of his feet “jump” after the bullet deflects off the right side partition and strikes it (the strap).
That happened to me in the army: we had to stand behind the soldier who was shooting and collect all the empty shells. One shell flew towards me but I lost sight of it ... until I felt it burning on my chest!
We were promised that we could shoot with a Bren gun. But they eventually decided against it: they could not guarantee that the gun would stop if you released the trigger ...
Happened to me too in the army, though in my case the shell was from my own gun and pounced off a tree to land between my glasses and my eye. But I also didnt flail my gun around after it like this guy
I have had a hot casing go down my back. Reaching around with my left to get it to fall out while holding my gun with the right, finger on the trigger. The gun stayed down range, I'm guessing, and nothing happened. I was kicking myself for not putting down the gun and thinking this could have been bad but those casings are fuckin' hot and I was just riding on reflex.
Seriously. I worked in a stunt show at an amusement park with revolvers that were literally unable to fire actual projectiles, but could fire blanks. One guy had an ND with that and he got fired day of. Technically suspended pending investigation, but we all knew.
Can someone explain why it's negligent? As far as I can tell the shell just bounced funny into his shirt. What did he do wrong? All the other comments are just calling him an idiot and I legit don't understand why lol
It's also shorthand for nuerodivergent and they can't have the whole workforce in the US realize it's ND and therefore legally disabled and this having it's labor stolen again, or they'd have a real problem on their hands
I’m not sure about this video, but I’ve been to a gun range once and was clearly warned that the hot bullet shell can land in my shirt and I’d need to calmly put the gun down before shaking it out. It eventually happened, I followed the instructions calmly, all was well. No reason to panic and get the shell out right away, it’s not going to burn you or anything. I really hope this video is fake.
Which is why I refused to go with my dad. One dumb son of a bitch. Just thankful my mom wouldnt let him have guns in the house while my sisters and I were growing up. Didnt know (or check) if a gun was loaded, finger always on the trigger, frequently pointing everywhere but downrange. Just scary.
Someone being careless with a deadly weapon, I'd guess. Unfortunately these idiots and their dangerous antics are all too real; ask pretty much *anyone* who regularly visits a range, and they'll always have at least a couple of stories about these kinds of people.
I've been to a private gun range once, small place 3 lanes. Some guy was talking hotstuff for an hour, I was only barely paying attention. But the moment that guy left, everyone in the building began shittalking what he was waffling about.
there seemed to be a bit of recoil the first time he shot, but then the recoil vanished when he shot back. I also am automatically suspicious of short clips, since short clips are overrun with ai. Lastly, there's almost a blurry/smoothing factor on the footage that also made me think maybe it's ai.
I can say with confidence it doesn't look real to me, and I'm sure you can say with confidence it looks real to you. And I guess that's revealing a bigger problem.
The guy working is wearing ear protection and hearing gunshots is not at all strange. He probably didn't see the guy swing the gun behind his back and fire it and if he wasn't hit he probably didn't even notice right away
Theoretical: if a dude did this and no one got hurt except for what the range master did to this dumbass by opening every door with his face, and then he pressed charges - would this video exonerate you to a judge? I can't think of a jury on the planet that would convict, but a judge might have to.
The gray hoodie guy could face charges for reckless endangerment with a firearm depending on state law. Gross misdemeanor, up to a year in jail and a cash fine. With that hanging over his head I doubt he would file charges in the theoretical situation.
The one time I went to a gun range, a guy set up on the aisle next to us, got his gun all assembled and loaded, and THEN decided he wanted to be down a few aisles. So he just picked up his full-loaded gun and started casually strolling down to the other end.
Even with my hearing protection, the RSO's rebuke was startlingly loud.
Most people learn when it lands on the hand or arm. It's uncomfortable, but nothing to shoot wildly about. That dude is an idiot. The table is right there. Set it down, use both hands, nobody dies.
I don’t think there was any original mistake, really, except wearing a hoodie. Then he decided to chase live brass around with a loaded gun and his finger on the trigger which is a couple of bad calls in a row. Always put the damn gun down when something unexpected happens! You never accidentally shoot people if you’re not holding a gun.
The shell going down his back wasn’t the issue. When he was trying to get it out, he had the gun in his hand, pointed it in a direction other than down range and in the movement of attempting to extract it fired off two shots behind him.
Have been in this situation before. Pistol down, facing down range then clear your shirt jeans. Anyone whose instinct in not to put the firearms down first isn't ready to be handling it. Irs the first thing taught when getting alicense here
Wait … you don’t see him SHOOTING behind himself in an unsafe direction? You’re fucking with me, right? No one is that clueless.
While on a firing range all weapons MUST be only pointed in a safe direction, typically down the firing lane. Even accidentally pointing a firearm anywhere else is grounds for expulsion.
In this case it was compounded when he caused two negligent discharges while pointing the firearm in an unsafe direction, endangering everyone else on the range.
No didnt in the first view but now I saw it how he shoot twice behind him like someone that should never ever hold a gun again i hope the cleaning guy is ok
TheShogunOfSarcasm
But EVERYONE has a right to a gun. Even that guy. (Satire) So, if he gets kicked off the range, you now have a careless asshole who owns a gun and has no opportunities to learn or stay proficient.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Damn near double tapped the janitor. Hope that fool got forever banned. People at public ranges scare me
JerzeeTomato
Ok, hot brass dow your back sucks, but WHO THE F doesn't put their weapon down before doing the Looney-Tunes dance?! Too bad he didn't blow a toe off.
Neurisko
Darwin award to the boys downstairs would have been the best outcome.
BobJones786
I was at a gun range and my pistol jammed. I put it down, facing down down range, and called the Range Master over. First thing he does, is pick it up and look down the barrel. Not kidding. This was in Michigan.
xXxX66SICKXxXx
If I were that sweeper there would be absolutely nothing (short from actually shooting me) anyone could do to stop me from beating that idiot to death right then and there.
kaneinencanto
Or at least cramming that broom handle up his ass so far that his feet won't be able to touch the ground anymore.
nomnamless
Wait! Did he discharge the gun as he swung it back behind him? What the actual fuck
Grey406
Yes, it fired twice
OnyxTurret
Ive been to the range a few times. Once, a casing bounced off the side and hit me in the temple. Freaked me out forna sec, but gun down, always pointed down range. Jeez people.
certainlynotaserialkiller
we had a moron like this at my range years ago. he got litteraly dragged out by 3 guys before he got his second excuse out and the owner immediatly started calling every other range in a 100 mile radius to ban him as well. turned out he went to the police station because he got dragged out. he then found out 2 of the guys dragging him were cops.
Gdub1337
Jayzus H.W. Schmidt!
What a complete moron.
Luvlyquants
Life long ban for being an idiot.
pgdave
That shouldn't be a ban, that should be two charges of criminal negligence, and potential loss of the right to own a firearm and certainly fines.
MuffinProof
Potential? Shouldn't own one to begin with
Noahbalboa82
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZzNpMDI1YTFwNHo2a2xtNTA3aGhlYmgzZDJodTM2cmh2Nmtlc2xkZiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/B0YZtGyakHaMg/200w.webp
BLKLTRS
You should be made to stay for a lengthy classroom gun safety session after this, then start your banishment.
OmarAlHadeen
AdroitCudgel
Murica: Land of utterly stupid people!
flexstar
TeddyMoment
ICE agent?
Illithidbane
Actually practicing? Doing something adjacent to training? Getting better?
Not ICE.
FellaWithUmbrella
Nah. Didn’t aim at brown people.
KuldFyt
He *did* go for the one guy who was actually working.
BenderRodriguezz
He is now!
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
that 'was that my fart?' half-turn
kaijuuGold
needs to go to jail for negligent discharge
PhailRaptor
Pretty sure all they did as give him a badge. Assuming he didn't already have one.
HenryLongfellowIII
Fuuuck. Two random shots behind him. Guy needs a beat down, lifetime ban and criminal charges.
yingjun
a dad killed his son doing this.
OshakhenneseyAyAyRonandJayQuelin
Am I wrong, or did he actually discharge that gun twice?
HenryLongfellowIII
You are not wrong. Two negligent discharges in one.
ialwaysupvoteShibe
I’ve had hot brass cartridges go down my cleavage and I still had the presence of mind to set my weapon down (pointing down range) before shaking it out of my bra.
MarsIsAfire
(I move away from the mic to breathe in)
simplynottrying
Same! I still have a little T scar on my nipple in certain light. But this is insane behavior
AzgarOgly
That flash when he was fishing for the casing. Was it just a reflection of light or was it a gun discharging?
jjw9
You can run it in slow motion with the slider below the video.
You’ll see the firearm discharge, and then the strap to the case at the left side of his feet “jump” after the bullet deflects off the right side partition and strikes it (the strap).
Mechwarrior719
Double negligent discharge.
AzgarOgly
no injuries, I hope
DongleDingler
He shot twice behind his back
Margrave9000
Twice?
Brilliant.
AzgarOgly
fancy!
astrangehop
Always double tap
HYPEdriveMusic
Because what ‘murica needs right now is *checks notes..
More guns.
TurnsOut42WasASlightMiscalculation
I can't tell - is that his own casing, or from next door (that goes down his back)?
weilong
It's his own. If you watch carefully after he fires, you can see it travelling up and to the right before bouncing off the partition.
genericanamoly
His. You can barely make out the rebound.
Izegrim
That happened to me in the army: we had to stand behind the soldier who was shooting and collect all the empty shells. One shell flew towards me but I lost sight of it ... until I felt it burning on my chest!
lucivjov
Good thing it wasn’t this guy it’s you’d have two IN your chest as well
Izegrim
We were promised that we could shoot with a Bren gun. But they eventually decided against it: they could not guarantee that the gun would stop if you released the trigger ...
Gedisti
Happened to me too in the army, though in my case the shell was from my own gun and pounced off a tree to land between my glasses and my eye. But I also didnt flail my gun around after it like this guy
petety
I have had a hot casing go down my back. Reaching around with my left to get it to fall out while holding my gun with the right, finger on the trigger. The gun stayed down range, I'm guessing, and nothing happened. I was kicking myself for not putting down the gun and thinking this could have been bad but those casings are fuckin' hot and I was just riding on reflex.
Neurisko
Yeah reaction to fire is in our lizard brain, it's really hard to overcome it sometimes.
MeisterKleister
petety
I need to edit this post:
"Flailing" around with my left hand would be a more accurate description.
imgurmage
That's an ND that'll get you kicked out of a range.
Bendrix
This should send you to jail.
SarcasticComment
should get you arrested. you almost killed someone on camera
chormin
Seriously. I worked in a stunt show at an amusement park with revolvers that were literally unable to fire actual projectiles, but could fire blanks. One guy had an ND with that and he got fired day of. Technically suspended pending investigation, but we all knew.
LurkerByNature
Good. Even blanks should be treated with the same respect as a loaded (or unloaded) firearm.
stonecw
Just ask Brandon Lee.
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
Agreed, and it should, but gotta say that’s getting off easy in a situation like this
PunnyTiger
Negligent Discharge, Not Downrange, Nearly Died, Nitwit Dickhead. Like the burn hole in his hoodie, a complete brasshole.
StunttheRunt
Permabanned hopefully
ProfessorMuChao
In all honesty, that kind of insane carelessness should get you barred from owning a gun. Period.
hyptosis
This, he should be on a fucking list, not the kind the rest of us are probably on in this regime either.
marthisthing
Yeah but try banning ice and see how easy it is.
Flareside
I am on board with this, 95% of cops would only be allowed tasers and pepper spray
Woerppl
i mean they gotta be able to get off their desk pops
WaxedApple
Barred from owning hands
Isorikk
Can someone explain why it's negligent? As far as I can tell the shell just bounced funny into his shirt. What did he do wrong? All the other comments are just calling him an idiot and I legit don't understand why lol
swimtsunami
He points the gun backwards while messing with his shit and almost shoots the guy with the broom
ADDGirl
Watch the gun as he's shaking his shirt. You can see the fire from the barrel as it looks like it shoots at least twice behind him/at the floor.
cronkey
What's an ND? Near death? No dice? Noob douche?
Neurisko
Desk pop
Evenmoreuselessname
Negligent discharge, but I like near death
stonecw
Negligent Discharge ... not the kind that results in unexpected pregnancies, but may result in an extreme post-birth abortion.
QwerkyOne
Negligent Discharge
wealthychef
Negligent discharge
jojoyojimbi
negligent discharge
E39M5S62
negligent discharge
zigbigidorlu
Negligent Discharge
cronkey
Thanks for the help imgur!
Kunkoh
Not sure if anyone told you yet, but it’s the abbreviation for Negligent Discharge.
😉
BeingABotIsRad
I can assure you that no, Cronkey was not told what an ND is by a single person.
cronkey
None Did!
WheresThatTorgo
Love doing those in a crowded elevator just before my floor.
stonecw
Ha!
BillyTater
Negligent discharge
SparrowTail3
Negligent Discharge
Almaadin
They used to be called AD (accidental discharge) but ND is a more accurate and onerous term.
bertchstudio
It's also shorthand for nuerodivergent and they can't have the whole workforce in the US realize it's ND and therefore legally disabled and this having it's labor stolen again, or they'd have a real problem on their hands
extraDimensionalAnxiety
That's what I called it when I was in my late teens.
MuffinProof
That's a DWI: Discharge With Intent.
Sorrontis
this is real?!
rinrenee
I’m not sure about this video, but I’ve been to a gun range once and was clearly warned that the hot bullet shell can land in my shirt and I’d need to calmly put the gun down before shaking it out. It eventually happened, I followed the instructions calmly, all was well. No reason to panic and get the shell out right away, it’s not going to burn you or anything. I really hope this video is fake.
backrideup9
Maybe not this exact video, but we can all agree this exact scenario has happened somewhere and will happen again.
Sorrontis
fair enough
anarchoFeline
looks fake to me but I'm not an expert
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
No, its not real.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
None of this is real.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
You are in a coma and dreaming
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Imgur comments are our only way of contacting you
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
...about your car's extended warranty.
davemUnderscoreOr
I want to say that his actions were real but the muzzle flashes are not.
BeardedViking
There's also a suspicious amount of holes missing in the floor after he "fired" straight down.
Kunkoh
Something similar happened at the range I use, and he shot himself in the ass if I remember. So I’m inclined to believe it’s real.
jjw9
Yes. And a warning that when you visit a gun range, you’re only as safe as the least safety-minded guy around you.
Shpielers
Which is why I refused to go with my dad. One dumb son of a bitch. Just thankful my mom wouldnt let him have guns in the house while my sisters and I were growing up. Didnt know (or check) if a gun was loaded, finger always on the trigger, frequently pointing everywhere but downrange. Just scary.
Sorrontis
jesus fucking christ
duhqueenmoki
just curious, but how are you able to verify that the video is real? it looks fake to me
MrPengy
What about it looks fake?
GoddamnGiraffes
Someone being careless with a deadly weapon, I'd guess. Unfortunately these idiots and their dangerous antics are all too real; ask pretty much *anyone* who regularly visits a range, and they'll always have at least a couple of stories about these kinds of people.
McMasterx
I've been to a private gun range once, small place 3 lanes. Some guy was talking hotstuff for an hour, I was only barely paying attention. But the moment that guy left, everyone in the building began shittalking what he was waffling about.
duhqueenmoki
there seemed to be a bit of recoil the first time he shot, but then the recoil vanished when he shot back. I also am automatically suspicious of short clips, since short clips are overrun with ai. Lastly, there's almost a blurry/smoothing factor on the footage that also made me think maybe it's ai.
I can say with confidence it doesn't look real to me, and I'm sure you can say with confidence it looks real to you. And I guess that's revealing a bigger problem.
CarpeTiger
Zero recoil and no reaction from the guy walking past. I'm guessing not. I'm no expert, though.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
It's a well known incident.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
The gun range employee .. with heavy war protection, is not startled by guns going off at the gun range?
What?
MarsIsAfire
WHAT?
Skyhighatrist2
You can actually see the recoil after every shot. Not sure about the muzzle flashes
nomnamless
The guy working is wearing ear protection and hearing gunshots is not at all strange. He probably didn't see the guy swing the gun behind his back and fire it and if he wasn't hit he probably didn't even notice right away
IjustsaywhatIthink
From my military experience large caliber rounds into concrete causes chips and bullet fragments to fly. There's no way the guy wouldn't have noticed.
McMasterx
That's probably how they knew to check the Camera. "Sir, why are there bullets behind you?"
IjustsaywhatIthink
Sure. That MUST be all the proof required here.
grumpabeme
That’s one way to have a range master beat your ass…
Bobbobbobobbananafanafobob
Theoretical: if a dude did this and no one got hurt except for what the range master did to this dumbass by opening every door with his face, and then he pressed charges - would this video exonerate you to a judge? I can't think of a jury on the planet that would convict, but a judge might have to.
grumpabeme
The gray hoodie guy could face charges for reckless endangerment with a firearm depending on state law. Gross misdemeanor, up to a year in jail and a cash fine. With that hanging over his head I doubt he would file charges in the theoretical situation.
Lachwen
The one time I went to a gun range, a guy set up on the aisle next to us, got his gun all assembled and loaded, and THEN decided he wanted to be down a few aisles. So he just picked up his full-loaded gun and started casually strolling down to the other end.
Even with my hearing protection, the RSO's rebuke was startlingly loud.
livingonagiantfireball
Should be 1 month mandatory jail for accidental discharge of a firearm.
grumpabeme
Gross misdemeanor in most states I believe. Up to a year in jail. And this would fit the bill.
grumpabeme
Reckless endangerment with a firearm that is.
bourbonandbaddecisions
No such thing as an “accidental discharge” its negligence plain and simple.
apoliticalpanda
What mistake did he do that originally let that shell rebound?
LetThemEatPie
Wearing the hoodie was the mistake
BenderRodriguezz
The cartridge landing in his hoodie was pure chance. When they eject they just fly out.
BenderRodriguezz
Most people learn when it lands on the hand or arm. It's uncomfortable, but nothing to shoot wildly about. That dude is an idiot. The table is right there. Set it down, use both hands, nobody dies.
jjw9
The rebound of the spent casing was not the result of an error. Bouncing off walls and nearby objects, they can deflect into the darndest places.
Handgun casings aren’t too bad. The ones ejected from automatic rifles in .223 REM and up will instantly sear bare skin.
If they get into the crack between your eye protection and face, they can easily cook an eye.
Something to think about proactively to “close gaps” in your clothing & gear before shooting.
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
I don’t think there was any original mistake, really, except wearing a hoodie. Then he decided to chase live brass around with a loaded gun and his finger on the trigger which is a couple of bad calls in a row. Always put the damn gun down when something unexpected happens! You never accidentally shoot people if you’re not holding a gun.
grumpabeme
The shell going down his back wasn’t the issue. When he was trying to get it out, he had the gun in his hand, pointed it in a direction other than down range and in the movement of attempting to extract it fired off two shots behind him.
defaultname2000
and having no trigger discipline at all
LetThemEatPie
Muzzle discipline. Laying the weapon down on the table should have been the first thing he did.
ADDGirl
But after that, trigger discipline should have kicked in. Not ready to shoot = finger not on trigger.
sheslikeheroin
Have been in this situation before. Pistol down, facing down range then clear your shirt jeans. Anyone whose instinct in not to put the firearms down first isn't ready to be handling it. Irs the first thing taught when getting alicense here
Mechwarrior719
Nah. Everyone needs to beat that dude’s ass. The sweeper was lucky he didn’t get popped.
Dude needs to be given a toy gun until he can learn proper gun safety.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Man, if only there was some sort of, some kind of... idk... rule or regulation in place for that. Oh well. Arm the retards! *blam! blam!*
truk77
Dude needs to lose his gun privileges for life.
drdorman86350
Id trust him with a potato, not a potato gun, just a potato.
robotlaserninjashark
Not a hot potato, mind. Just a potato. One of the small ones.
JB4T5
Le petite potate
JiroPFlowrite
What did that potato do to you?
Mechwarrior719
It’s less dangerous than a gun
GoldenSun3DS
It eliminated physical media.
grumpabeme
That’s not totally the fault of the Imgur servers….
stonecw
As an RSO ... can confirm ... and a life-time ban.
Grinch01
Could you please explain why ? I dont see him doing any thing wrong the Shell flew unlucky and bounced but where was it his fault ?
stonecw
Wait … you don’t see him SHOOTING behind himself in an unsafe direction? You’re fucking with me, right? No one is that clueless.
While on a firing range all weapons MUST be only pointed in a safe direction, typically down the firing lane. Even accidentally pointing a firearm anywhere else is grounds for expulsion.
In this case it was compounded when he caused two negligent discharges while pointing the firearm in an unsafe direction, endangering everyone else on the range.
Grinch01
No didnt in the first view but now I saw it how he shoot twice behind him like someone that should never ever hold a gun again i hope the cleaning guy is ok
schmurfturf
What does being a registered sex offender have to do with anything?
Mechwarrior719
Context clues work wonders
minqapoc
I am gonna guess "Range Safety Officer".
qwkhyena42
Range Safety Officer
BranDohCalrissian
... i thought it was a funny intentional misinterpretation 🤷
acme64
it was, gun folks just have no humor
stonecw
Now waitaminute. It was my comment and even I, a self defined “gun folk” thought it was damn funny. Step off.
stonecw
Agreed 🤣
schmurfturf
It was
TreasonousCheeto
It obviously was. Recreational offense-takers I guess.
ChikaChickaBowWow
Agreed.