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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sotomayor-facts-do-not-matter-to-supreme-court-after-it-upholds-trans-athlete-ban_n_6a43d096e4b0f4826b484476
Jul 1, 2026 2:43 AM
GwensBackOnHerBS
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sotomayor-facts-do-not-matter-to-supreme-court-after-it-upholds-trans-athlete-ban_n_6a43d096e4b0f4826b484476
BranDohCalrissian
Is anyone else ready to fucking riot yet?? I'm waiting on more people bc a one man riot never ends well.
InfocalypseRising
KindOfACreep
I stopped paying attention to all the US vs. But I do agree with this. I don’t understand why this is wrong?
KillingTlme
I don't think Democrats are pushing this narrative. It is probably a group of Republicans backing these cases to make it to the Supreme Court so they can have a talking point to win Conservative votes.
Hexidimentional
if its always fucking 6-3 why even fucking bother with the theater
req4adream99
Because without that people realize that SCOTUS has 0 enforcement ability for their rulings. SCOTUS rulings had power because the institution was regarded as largely impartial and fair and working to adjudicate disputes between the executive and legislative branch in a well reasoned and lawful manner. Take that away and you have 9 people who dress up in robes and like to hit things with a gavel - which is what we have now.
lordfancypantz
Just to make it clear which facts she feels are ignored.
Sotomayor’s point was not that biological males have no athletic advantage. Her point was that the Court treated the state’s rule as valid without giving much weight to case-specific cases, such as whether this particular athlete had actually gone through male puberty or retained a competitive advantage.
So it’s not really a denial of biological differences. It’s an argument that blanket bans ignore individual cases
CyberHexx
They never have. Not since they realized that Reality has a leftward bias. Since then they've sunk into lala land.
imyourrealdad
Feelings over facts for the fascists.
GigantamaxHonker
You are surprised usa nazi goverment is acting like nazi? Wow so much nazi
heroesblood
That's because republicans are too fucking stupid for facts to matter. All of them. Every single republican is a fucking moron.
Madalchemist2018
They have strong representation in both the stupid and evil groups the GOP is entirely contained by those two circles. But make no mistake many are outright evil the rest are stupid or both.
ArdentSlacker
It's not stupidity. They're -evil-. They cheer for nazi fucking salutes. They know they're evil. They're fucking aware. It's not an education problem. It's not an intelligence issue... it's evil people working together to be evil, because they enjoy making others suffer more than they want a better world for themselves.
Abusing others is their highest fuckin' priority, and they're extremely consistent about this. They aren't innocent babies that got tricked. They're evil adults, fully aware.
SquirrelWithATophat
This is hardly news. Conservatives in the US have been almost literally screaming from the rooftops on a daily basis that they do not care about facts. The ONLY thing they care about is inflicting needless cruelty and suffering upon everyone. And they have consistently proven innumerable times that they are perfectly willing to completely destroy their own lives and burn the world to the ground if it means being able to inflict even the smallest bit of additional suffering upon others.
BeatriceAine
They also get bent out of shape when trans men play on female teams. They just want to control women.
idiotsonfire
All anti-trans talking points are just repackaged racism. We're going through the exact same cycle. This is Jim Crow for trans people.
JackDeHearts
Can we stop fighting the culture war and start fighting the class war yet?
SciFiGuy2018
Facts never do. It's about keeping a certain group of people in power.
BeaverOnFire
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fknbastard
And others under the boot
mdevil
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fillerbunny9
Time to pulverize this long dead horse a little more by dusting off Wilhoit’s Law again:
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Skrumblecakes
One name completely dissolves all conservative arguments about trans people in sport; Mack Beggs.
BishlamekGurpgork
This is so confusing. It states that this was said TO the supreme court, like the dissenting opinion is that the facts don't matter.
This was said to REPRESENT the ruling, to mock it, and references the facts that studies do not show trans athletes having an inherent athletic advantage. These didn't matter to the ruling that excluded trans athletes.
urusername2
Actually, they do!
xj4low
Seriously need to expand the court, and set term limits.
Whoisthisdoctorwho2000
Never forgive Biden
Marikhen
Honestly, I want to see Democrats pack the SCOTUS with 50+ "liberal" judges the next time they have the power to do so, just to provoke conservatives and Democrats into trying to pack in 100+ judges. I want to see an escalating shitstorm of stupidity involved in the process of appointing judges to the SCOTUS just so even the dumbest person in the US, who isn't renting out space in their brain to dementia, Alzheimer's, or some other brain-crippling disease, is forced to acknowledge the ->
Marikhen
flaws in having no limits to the number of judges on the bench or the duration of their appointments. Well, that or until half the country is a SCOTUS judge.
hsalonen3000
This sucks on so many levels. I hope you use this to fuel your anger and vote accordingly.
Resistance1000
KillingTlme
As a liberal, why do we continue to focus so much on Trans athletes, while the other 99.9% of Trans people are still fighting for their basic rights?
KillingTlme
Downvote me all you want, but trans athletes are giving Conservatives bullshit talking points to win much needed votes.
PennysWorthOfTea
Go harass the conservatives as to why they keep trying to erode trans rights--along with other civil rights*--instead of providing an actual platform.
*That is why folks need to be concerned about the current culture war against trans folk. Not only is it marginalizing & disenfranchising millions of people but dismantling civil rights is an extremely slippery slope: knocking done one protection makes it easier to knock down another.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
Because that is a basic right. To be able to live, work, and play without harassment or discrimination.
KillingTlme
Playing competitive sports is a basic right? That's bullshit. It's something we have for fun, but while people are dying living under bridges or because they can't afford their medication, perhaps you should take a break from fighting for trans rights to play on some sports teams, and focus on winning more elections.
quade
Fuck conservatives.
tempUser7824
Not even with your dick
theobstruction
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RockTheBackblast
I'd rather not.
quade
You know "fuck" means more than one thing, right?
RockTheBackblast
You recognised that I used a different meaning to it than you did, but then thought that was an intelligent thing to say?
quade
Yeah, but it was stupid and ran counter to the original message, so you're dumb.
RockTheBackblast
Projection is strong in you.
bambinod
It's not much different than banning performance-enhancing drugs. We had to have separate competition by gender for a reason, to keep the competition fair.
PennysWorthOfTea
Kindly learn about an issue before trying to share an opinion about it. Honestly, you're just embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.
GwensBackOnHerBS
You should learn actual science instead of GOP nonsense.
eion85
Any Democrat who isn't open to or actively promoting Supreme Court reforms, especially adding more Justices to cancel out the openly corrupt and incompetent Justices, is not someone worth voting for in a primary election.
Elkarlo1977
But don't stop voting in the election, if the primary didn't went as planed.
eion85
Please ensure you also share this message with Centrist Democrats when a Democratic Socialist wins a primary.
I don't think Jeffries or Schumer have shared any significant praise for Mamdani, for instance, nor any of the DSA members who won the primaries recently.
SavageDrums
Hopefully Jefferies and Schumer are gone sooner rather than later. Fuck those empty suits.
Xerxes4242
Eh not exactly. It means you have to get people to vote for real change in the primary. We are not at a point where incremental change or half measures are going to be useful at all, despite what DNC stooges say. If Democrats are ever fortunate enough to regain any degree of power they need to stop acting like helpless little baby idiots.
Elkarlo1977
You nearly didn't get a second chance this time. 2028 you won't get a second chance with the SAVE America Act Trump and Johnson are trying to push through. https://www.whitehouse.gov/saveamerica/ That will be Voter surpression.
Xerxes4242
Which is exactly why more of the same that got us here won't help at all.
eion85
They've failed each time they've tried to push through the SAVE America act.
The Senate Parliamentarian has denied allowing it via Reconciliation so it's subject to a filibuster.
ElyriaCrusnik
I have no issues with trans people. As a bisexual, I don't think I'd have an issue dating either side of that equation, but even after hormone therapy, a person born male is, on average, still stronger than a woman. I agree with the court.
PennysWorthOfTea
That is an objectively false statement that reveals your overwhelming ignorance of the issue & your affection for transphobic propaganda over reality.
DocTanner
Our testosterone levels are medically suppressed, unlike cis women, which leads to significant muscle loss. Meanwhile, the larger and heavier skeleton is permanent. Trans women don't have the physical advantage in most sports that you might think.
Especially when we're talking about high-school sports, where the girls might not even have had significant testosterone exposure before transitioning.
KungFuTreacheryQ
Whoa, common sense on imgur. Republicans are by and large, anti-trans, ofc. This court decision is not anti-trans though.
PennysWorthOfTea
No, it is extremely transphobic. The court's decision is based on bigoted pseudoscience & religious dogma rather than medical evidence. The justices who supported this decision do not understand medicine, biology, or even sports.
SyrenKindra
Literally just verifiably false
KillingTlme
Can you give me the link to your verifiable evidence, to help in my arguments against my anti-trans athletes conservative friends, who are pro-trans rights in all other scenarios?
SyrenKindra
I think like, every actual serious study into the physical stats of trans athletes has shown that after ~2 years of being on HRT their body will have functionally identical stats to that of a person of the same size/weight and opposite assigned sex. The "issue" is so much of a manufactured nothingburger that it is insane. Even when they weren't legislated into oblivion, trans people did NOT dominate in ANY kinds of sports.
SyrenKindra
A few sources:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33288617/
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/2/e455/7223439?__cf_chl_f_tk=vO5LX_hchI_vmC2mybn5.2ScRQCA6PNK0Xu8xsT_zdo-178294">8617/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33288617/
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/2/e455/7223439?__cf_chl_f_tk=vO5LX_hchI_vmC2mybn5.2ScRQCA6PNK0Xu8xsT_zdo-1782944612-1.0.1.1-LIMcj5H0UKEZI8St_HWnNZRNlI.L5zA7B3o7h9xiYLw
TLDR; if trans people are allowed the appropriate resources to transition safely and in a timely manner their bodies perform basically the exact same as a similar cis person would