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LicensedAdHominem
I particularly love how this number got artificially inflated a few times AFTER counting nazi war losses as "people".
TheDefective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwL1mSrPLA
Freyja33
Mainstream media quotes anti-communist propaganda so much most people don't even realize how absurdly made up those numbers really are
EzraFell
I wonder what the comparative rates of smoking deaths would be between the US and USSR during the cold war? If I had to guess, I would say the USSR would be 20% lower, due to their more accessible healthcare system.
woozle
communism killed 100 gorillion people!
Unualtu
Another one where communism = socialism, a stupid take.
I am from an ex communist country, most people do not have a clue how stupid it is. The horrifying things done, just because people dared to talk ... .
As for ehat happened in china... Just read the fucking history it is there for everyone
And no, not wanting communism is not equal with loving the late stage capitalism
TheSecondPiewackit
"Another one where communism = socialism, a stupid take."
oldguyexlurker
Conflating Communism, Totalitarianism, and Socialism is a VERY common mistake for people who never actually READ the texts that defined the terms. Lookin' at you, ya fuckin' asshole Trump.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
The big problem is that the tankies called themselves Communists, they offered their people Communism, and labeled their political party Communist. But since no one understands what it IS, they ignore the fact that these people didn't do any Communist shit once in power.
TheDefective
jeips
communism =/= socialism =/= democratic socialism =/= democracy =/= capitalism. like, its ok to learn what terms mean before you start making arguments.
EverNotRelevant
Also common is capitalist shills equating capitalism with commerce.
randumbwon
This is a false dichotomy. Stochastic death from regimes or unhealthy products are bad; you need not choose.
Cigarettes exist in both communist and capitalist societies.
TheSecondPiewackit
This isn't a dichotomy. This is a counterexample to a commonly cited narrative bullet point that acts like the number on the capitalist side is zero. No one's asking you to choose, and it certainly isn't in favor of communism.
DotGnash
Doesn't smoking predate capitalism....by a lot?
TheSecondPiewackit
Smoking yes. Cigarettes, no.
BlindGardener
Everyone smokes in China. The government directly owns the cigarette factories in China.
China isn’t communist anymore though the party calls itself the communist party. But they’re also not quite capitalist either. Really hard to know what to call them.
PutItInNeutral
Totalitarian
UnoriginalPieceOfRepeatingShit
Slave state?
CoverMeInHoney
I'm getting sick and tired of Social Democracy being mislabeled as communism. Ask yourself this, is Norway, Sweden and Finland communist country? No, they're a Social Democracy. They have some the highest happiness index in the world... rant over
NinjaCongo
*used to be. Sweden is currently run by a right wing coalition with the largest party being the "former" neo nazi SD. Scandinavian social democracy has been effectively dismantled for 20 years. And as always, it was the neo liberals that sold out the societal infrastructure to private interests and paved way for the populist fascists.
NinjaCongo
But yeah, I'd sure af like to live under Swedish social democracy circa 1985.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
I'm also pretty fucking tired of tankies who called themselves Communists but then once in power -never- enacted ANY actual Communist policies once in power portrayed as actual Communists. Ruined the word they have, and the system has barely actually been tried anywhere at all.
TheDefective
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method
TheDefective
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_violations_by_the_CIA
Unualtu
People smoke in communist countries too, Christ what a childish take
Ps: fuck communism, fuck late stage capitalism. Both systems lead to the same destructive attitude where the few shit on the many
TheSecondPiewackit
"Christ what a childish take" A singular product racking up a kill count on par with the worst examples of communism isn't a "childish take", it's pointing out that dumb fucks who make the initial argument act like the number on the capitalist side is zero, while only focusing on the communist side, and mistaking it for socialism.
Unualtu
Well, the meme does not really say what you say. Even then.. those are just stupid people.. .
There is a massive influx of "communism is/ was great", ao i reacted.
At least now i understand your point
TheSecondPiewackit
The meme /does/, you just wanted it to say something different, as evidence by your last two sentences. You literally read into this more than what was there, and didn't pick up on what /was/.