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wwtwo
He doesn't care... He has so much money now..
jjmarshmallow
As a Non- GoT reader/viewer I get the impression that this guy has let a lot of people down.
eichelburglar
I started the books in 1995. Just the opposite. The wait sucks, but he always delivers. One of the best, imho, doesn't leave stones unturned
frozenpie22
At this point I just wait for a character to have a touching emotional moment. Then I know they're as good as dead.
NotAsCleverAsYou
Barbecue Sauce: http://youtu.be/ulUBDu_97z8
DontBeSuchAnOrc
Gracias
Kiwi31415
Season six has a new twist. Each episode George R R Martin will randomly kill a viewer.
TrustMeImBritish
Only out of necessity. He'll have run out of characters by episode 2.
Earlkay
Whilst intricately describing a huge feast
MossfromIT
The victim drowns in the grease running down a character's chin.
Muffinmurdurer
After, the lucky viewer will get a chance to have their friends receive the same treatment.
IWishIWasBlank
Fraplord
3142
Just wait till he breaks the fourth wall and gets himself killed. That'll be a shocker!
Montablac
he had but one last life to take...
guzzball
There's a theory (more of a joke) that he's feeding D&D false information to sabotage the show and that's why S5 wasn't as good.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
I think he's giving them some actual stuff that'll happen, but keeping most of it to himself. Leaving how they get from A to B to C etc 1/2
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
up to them. Give them major events (that they may or may not use) and see how they fill in the spaces in between. 2/2
treacletart
Agreed. Wouldn't be lucrative to reveal all before he publishes. BUT the Shireen spoiler seemed kind of major to me.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
Yeah I think she ded girl walking
DrJackBright
Didn't you hear? Next step is him killing the viewers
OliverClothesoff70
Diabeetus?
Dares
You really think he'd kill off Sam?
ArniePye
Like Stephen King having to save his own life in the dark tower series?
heghmoh
Halfway through the last book there's a grrm perspective chapter where he dies, the rest of the pages are blank.
DarthFutuza
You mean dies before he can finish?
roadsign
this a fav
kickbabies
Theon or Sansa will kill him
jordanschlansky
I'll bet metabolic syndrome is going to get him before too long. Sorry, I'm still really bitter about The Hound.
cdnmDECEMBER
Fortunately for you, there's a scene in a Brienne POV chapter where she passes a gigantic hooded man followed by a dog on the side of road
jimicos
I feel indifferent.
flyingsolow
Me too. I've read the books but it was so long ago that I've stopped caring. Doubt I'm going to pick up the next one.
jimicos
I feel indifferent because I didn't read the books or watch the show.
flyingsolow
All the memes and spoilers must be just thrilling for you. :P
jimicos
I used to filter them out based on tags, but it seems like no one uses those anymore. Eh.
flyingsolow
It's all about 'topics' now? I have no idea.
OSCgal
Geez, man. Death is not the only thing to fear. Your audience can fear a friendship destroyed, a heart crushed, things like that. (1/2)
OSCgal
Break out of your comfort zone and start exploring LIVES. (2/2)
GavinVolure
It's true, it's almost boring to see the hero in trouble cause you know he ain't gonna die
DVSBSTrD
I don't feel afraid when he does that, I feel resigned.
ChanelK
Whats happening?
Hautamaki
Right? At this point, people are afraid to get attached to characters so they turn cynical. Is that really better?
DMKgames
That is the shows fault for cutting out all the hope in the books and killing a few character unnecessarily this season in lame ways.
Sprixxen
This is true. People always so George is killing off his characters too much...I suspect they haven't actually read the books.
potatoking27
But brother all men must die.
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
Me too. It removes any tension and drama. I've come to expect the character to die, and I relax. I'm thusly no longer invested.
Sprixxen
One of the things the show did wrong. Needlessly kill characters. Plus w/o POVs they seem much more important than they are in the books.
PatrickStewartKnowsActing
SomethingCleverBand
Exactly, he just swung the pendulum in the other direction entirely.
DMGuy
TBF it isn't really him at this point, it's the idiot show writers. Lots of deaths that aren't in the books or at least make sense there.
acliberti
Yeah, at this point you have to assume every character will be killed off. He doesn't make many 'heroes', but tons of power hungry assholes.
SoftFur
Pretty much. With GoT, Newbie: "woah, how's he gonna get out of that one!?" Pro: "sigh. By dying horribly, most likely."
ButImNotTheOnlyOne
I feel a calm fall over me because I know the characters will soon be released from this earth.
plusoneforyou
I saw the cross with the word traitor on it and just fell sad. just sad.
RedDread
I was waiting for his eyes to turn white in the last shot... Denied.
BornstellarNomad
:,(
TwinMonkeys
Melisandre plz bring him back
troublecliff
For the night is dark and full of terrors...
BuryMeInBerries
I felt split second confusion then realized another second before he did
TheHandleImFlyingOff
yeah, about that. i wouldn't be too concerned. jon snow knows some things.
AnneGwish
Agreed. I feel inclined to give zero fucks about GoT after this last season finale.
FireatWill
Read the books friend. I know they are hyped, but if's for a reason. It really is one of the most engaging stories ever. He's brilliant
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
Read the books. The show doesn't do the story justice anymore. I know they're 2 separate entities but there's so much more the all the plots
SnakePete
No balance. No Boltons & Freys on the edge because they're hated, no Stannis being a real threat, no pies, no LSH. And that's just North.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
That's not even half of the North! Manderlys, Dustins, Ryswells, all going to be major players next book.
SnakePete
That's what I meant by Bolton & Frey being on the edge, because of all the shit the northerners seem to be pulling behind their back
SnakePete
Personally, I just wanna see the Greatjon escape the Twins and carve a trail of blood and guts to Winterfell.
Sprixxen
I feel bad for what Benioff and Weiss are presenting and making people assume the books are. Even this whole "George kills his characters" 1
koflan
Yes. He's not making you invested in the character's wellbeing, he's punishing you for it. For me, it's lazy and gimmicky storytelling.
Kaysmira
I think this is why I just won't get started on this series. I read novels to escape depressing reality that bad guys get to kill good guys.
koflan
Yep. There needs to be a reason for telling a story, and one about stabbing infants and killing good guys just isn't worth it to me.
Kaysmira
Someone lent me different popular series: rape, just so much rape. Rape of Nanking levels of rape. I'm not reading fantasy to feel bad.
eichelburglar
Actually, you should read the books b/c that's not how it is in HIS story. HBO is doing it's own thing now. Disappointed in them.
damagedchameleoncircuit
For real. I'm so tired of GoT and the books. I have no vested interest in them anymore, because he's killed everyone.
MazMaz
I started GoT late, and I'm only just catching up on season three. Not sure if there's any point seeing as everything's been spoiled :P
Sprixxen
You are definitely mixing up the books and the show. George kills off POV characters very, very sparingly.
damagedchameleoncircuit
Yes, but he kills off the ones I like! (Arguably not with Jon Snow)
SayWutAgain
There's a good and a bad way to do this. For the good way, read Pillars of the Earth.
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SayWutAgain
Had to down vote. I'm handing out book recommendations and you're handing out spoilers. Tom Builder was just okay anyway.
RelishYourRelish
Good point, I hate spoilers.
beamerpook
Joe Abercrombie is also very good at engaging you and then ripping out your heart, without doing it so often you become inured to it!
BorneAloftOnWingsOfFire
Commenting pour later
eichelburglar
Honestly GRRM is arguably better. But the HBO adaption is awful now. No nuance or subtlety. But the show has 100x more death than GRRM.
eichelburglar
^Just from having read both. Unhappy people are pouring these accusations at GRRM instead of D&D- they have gone sadistic. He hasn't.
SayWutAgain
Oh no no no. The books start well, but fall into rapid decline after #3, mostly because he does this, but Ken Follett is a certified genius.
eichelburglar
Yeah a lot of people hate 4 & unhappy @5. Why though? He's not leaving a single stone unturned. And 3 and more deaths than any of the books.
SayWutAgain
You need to be better than that to beat Pillars though. It's an absolute masterpiece. Only book that's made me noticeably react in public.
Elonth
yeah when you kill everyone at the drop of the hat it no longer becomes daring risk. it becomes preordained demise. i hate preordained doom
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
I've never felt like any of the character deaths in ASOIAF have been at the drop of a hat besides the one from the very end of ADWD. The 1/2
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
rest are usually hinted at or built up to. It doesn't come out of left field when people die, it's all a part of the game. 2/2
Sprixxen
Yep the book series deaths are all meticulously planned out for character development. The show deaths on the other hand...Silly.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
This past season I agree, and probably next season too since GRRM isn't writing for either of them.
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Every death has been for good reason IMHO
RpblcCmmndo38
This is true. You may not see it coming but it makes sense in retrospect.
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Also, I would just like to clarify that this was with the books..some of the deaths in the show made me mad..mainly Barristons.
ImgurSage
Important characters survive deadly situations a lot more often than they die. Also, a bunch of characters are still alive 5 books later
AllegedlyUncleTonton
I kind of like that we won't really know who the actual main character is until the end. Or something.
EspionageBear
Does it need a main character?
AllegedlyUncleTonton
"Or something."
festivebeethoven
I am however very interested to see what happens with Bran. No spoilers,but I really like his story, as far as the books are concerned(2/2).
festivebeethoven
I don't think there is a main character. It's all a bunch of stories interconnected by a common history (1/2).
o0m9
Anyone I even had passing interest in died or was left out of most of Feast for Crows. I just didn't care enough to read anymore.
Sprixxen
They were left out because a Feast for Crows is half a book. Who died that was of passing interest to you in book 3?
o0m9
It might have been book 4. I quit after Caitlyn came back and hanged Breinne and Jaime. And I got tired of waiting for Arya to come back 1/2
o0m9
up after waking up blind and... never being mentioned again. I just couldn't care for it anymore. Everyone was doomed, it was whatever. 2/2
Sprixxen
You should reread when book 6 comes out. It sounds like it's been awhile since neither Brienne nor Jaime were hanged to death.
HoraceGreensteinEsq
Right? Stephen King was much better at this. You know anybody was fair game, but some would survive. Martin just kills everything you love.
Tuen
Any non-neurotypical character lives though
eichelburglar
Just curious, but do you read the books? He has great chapter breaks. But all jokes aside, he doesn't kill as much as people say. HBO tho...
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
II've learned to be very wary of any character that suddenly gets more attention/sympathetic treatment. They about to die.
andrer94
Tru
thisguysmokes
This +1
Sprixxen
For readers, besides Robb (who isn't a POV) and Ned, who has died? People drastically exaggerate him killing important characters.
Stormbeforedawn
Have you read the books or watched the show? Watch S1E1, and tell me who isn't mostly dead from the pilot.
Sprixxen
I'm specifically talking about the books. That's why I said "For readers". I don't care who they killed in the show.
Sprixxen
I'm talking serious POV, real death of a developed character. The "See which character we randomly kill this week" is a show thing.
nakedfeet
There are a lot of very likeable characters that are still alive, and will probably make it to the end.
HoraceGreensteinEsq
I feel that you are overly optimistic. :)
eichelburglar
In the books, what he has control over, most people don't die. (Unless we're talking Ned, Cat and Robb). HBO is doing their own thing.
nakedfeet
Not at all. But they can't *all* die. He's created what, hundreds of characters? Unless the series ends in the world ending, some will live.
HoraceGreensteinEsq
But maybe only the horrible ones, you know? I mean, I totally get what you're saying but what if it's just Reek and Cersei at the end?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
George RR Martin has killed so many characters that it's made the killing of characters meaningless to me and taken away all suspense
saltyys
Yea.. Except you don't have any heroes left, George. :/
LiterallyYourMom
Someday I'm going to make a movie where Sean Bean slaughters an army singlehandedly.
Lyrian
Eh. It just leads to people starting to not care about characters and flip pages.
CatrionaShadowleaf
This happened to me in Wheel of Time without anyone dying...
Pangs
But it does give Martin a chance to endlessly drone on about his writing.
MazMaz
Seriously, I just skip entire passages of food descriptions, colors of beards and bullshit house sigils. No wonder he takes so long writing.
ChameleonFacedGoon
extensive world building is a problem a lot of scifi writers have as well. Explaining how the world works/looks is good up to a point.
NoHomoRomo
Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner Weiner
getthismanabeer
Horses have a distinct advantage over other types of transportation.
lostwynter
I mostly just don't care about anyone anymore. This whole series just feels exhausting.
Aelfinn
Martin has killed only one POV character: Ned. He's literally brought Catelyn back to life, and I guarantee Jon's coming back.
leafspring
Unfortunately GRRM kind of overdid it and people are now afraid to even being emotionally investing into the characters.
nakedfeet
Guys, Jon is going to be OK. Guys.
NeverGiveUpHope
Even so, he still knows nothing, just saying...
rossalupus
He has gone to ygrette, let him rest
frankstorm
That's what i repeat myself every day to stop the sadness of his lost. Yet my efforts have been in vain.
Kiwi31415
And Ned too?
NachoManTX
Ned fo-ever dead
nakedfeet
Of course.
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Demauscian
Who? I only know of Joffrey
southwestern22
Except for the time danerys was surrounded by those mask dudes and the dragon saved her or whatever
Keleesi
Unless you are shirtless Ramsey Bolton and 20 good men.
NotSoWittyUserName
He's not a hero. That's why.
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
Ser Twenty of House Goodmen.
fingerpickles
True
MisterGod
The hero is not surrounded by pixels that's for damn sure
Hiromagi
Ser Twenty of House Goodmen
onlyajones
Ramsey "Trope" Bolton
DrLeonardChurch
Ah yes, Ser Goodmen. Strongest warrior in the Seven Kingdoms.
attackontiitanbutts
Ser Twenty of House Goodmen. Strongest fighter in the realm.
LucasRG
Twenty Good Men™
PlagueDoctorInDaHouse
I... I don't remember this scene. is it real? oO
LucasRG
Yup: https://youtu.be/iVK5KTXvnCI?t=2m7s
PlagueDoctorInDaHouse
Aaah thanks, I thought it was from S5 when he burns down the Baratheon camp^^
LucasRG
No problem, glad to help !
gzeroea
Twenty good men
TopsunPB
wapcaplet
I approve.
tommytraddles
8-10 made me fucking LOL
AndThenThereWereSquirrels
Objection: Barristan kicked some ass before those masked jerkoffs took him down
TopsunPB
He says Barristan the Old, not Bold. So he has a point.
Munax
according the show it's %100 accurate.
doctorduck
It's Bronn? I thought it was Braun
Azarel97
bruh
Tredecim
Gold
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
But GRRM didn't write that.
Keleesi
That is true that those were show-only scenes, though Ramsay is still going strong in the books at this point too.
DMGuy
He also hasn't done nearly as much, and is pretty clearly established as just another psycho who ends up in over his head.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
He also hasn't taken nearly as many risks in the books :P
Idonthaveausernamebecauseimnotcreative
What do you think will win Ramsey Bolton and 20 good men or the sun
Keleesi
Ramsay and his men... the sun is the obvious favorite so we gotta be sure and avoid the common tropes and all.
Irishda
Unless you are Daenarys Targaryen. Because people are either really stupid in Essos or everyone wants to fuck her.
GuardsmanMiku
finally of game of thrones: Daenarys's army + dragons vs Ramsey Bolton and 20 good men
DMGuy
All of the Sons of the Harpy really just want senpai to notice them.
YharnamsFinest
Both
Dares
MossfromIT
It's been a while since I watched a Rocky sequel, but is 18 back between 13 and 14? If so, why?
riften
Who's number nine?
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
It's Garlan Tyrell, Loras' second oldest brother. He was cut from the show. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Garlan_Tyrell
RainInTheFace
Love the Tyrell brothers. Willas is my personal favorite, even with his bum leg.
Turkeltonthe2nd
could be lancelot..supposed to be the best warrior of all the round table knights
Aedrabani
Actually, I'd say either Sir Balin or Sir Beaumains would be the best warrior of the round table. Also, I fucking love talking about Arthur
Turkeltonthe2nd
idk much but i remember he was arthurs greatest champion, and also the reason for the downfall of arthurs kingdom. tragic hero
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
It's Garlan Tyrell, Loras' second oldest brother. He was cut from the show. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Garlan_Tyrell
Turkeltonthe2nd
thank you knowledgeable stranger, may the upvotes ever be in your favor
VioletCrow
Ramsey has skin made of plot armor.
Moonsmoonsmoons
Imgur thought Jon did too. Nobody is safe.
teampangea
I hope nymeria kills him, sweet justice for the girls he sicked dogs on
ChaosLierLen637
Oooo, that would be good. I hope he get's flayed, but your idea is really good too.
HowUnfortunate
(As a non-reader) I hope he gets flayed. Oh, the sweat irony.
MrRandom314159
As a book reader... I can see this happening.
SuddenSquirrel
(As a Misfits fan) How did the actor go from playing a good guy to a shirtless castration master?
MrRandom314159
Well... not to be rude or anything, but the Misfits kinda killed a lot of people. Maybe some of them weren't as accidental as we thought.
HelloIsItMeYoureLurkingFor
What does sweat have to do with this?
HowUnfortunate
um...skin sweats? (alright, you got me)
Highcalibur10
The show's caught up with the books, now. Only a couple of things have been left out/changed.
TheKingMaker
A ton has been changed honestly, the Salsa plot, and Brienne. Etc.
TheTypo
things have been changed, but you can see that more or less it's going to end in the same way, or at least is heading in a similar direction
Highcalibur10
Brienne's close enough. Sansa has just been fused with Jeyne, Coldhands and Lady Stoneheart being removed (my biggest qualms).
pizzarollsandoreos
They changed the salsa? Assholes.
Zoddom
I feel like its too predictable now THAT someone important dies. Idk if martin thinks that is a meme or something, but its getting boring...
DezTurkish
That must just be the show. I never felt that going through the books. I was always kept on my toes.
Zoddom
yeah well thats probably because its timed with the season finals in the show :/
eetsumkaus
And the book kills off people in the second or third chapter before it ends...not really much different. You just get more closure
porrages
It's actually a huge problem with the show. Watch this season's finale and compare it with how it went down in the books. Radical difference
DezTurkish
Oh I see, sorry for that :/. I can see why that'd be annoying.
AnneGwish
TBH, I hope the entire world of GoT is destroyed. I hope everyone dies now, but dragons and zombies.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
They've made ALL the humans (outside Daenerys and Tyrion) so unlikable that yeah, I can't help but root for the White Walkers
ossius
Read the books, Jaime lannister is 100% different and redeemed in my eyes, a good man even.
getthismanabeer
Ser Davos? Maybe Gendry if he would ever get off his fuckin' rowboat.
TiniestFox
I haven't watched any recent episodes, but he's kept John Snow alive, which is the only reason I still even watch that show! Its wonderful!
wendizzol
Oh god...
sugar3
>John Snow
GtotheMar
You know nothing, Tiniestpanda
MkLiam
You need to watch the recent episodes. They include the best action scene I've seen yet, among other things.
TiniestFox
Ok, so I lied for Internet points. I have seen the most recent episode. T'was a joke.
MkLiam
I'm glad your guilt made you confess. You are forgiven. Say three Hail Mary's and go with God.
MvdVeen
Other things.
UndercoverBadger
I want the next death to be from dysentery.
ItsAGameOfSchlongs
John Snow's death made me question my life choices, or atleast my choice of reading material
iFINALLYmadeAcomment
If I watched the show, I'd be mildly irritated with how brazen people are about openly discussing shit that just happened.
Lookatmyballs
AWWWWW you think he is dead. Thats cute
Sytaria
Maybe he'll come back. You never know
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
"Kill the boy Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be reborn." You know he isn't dead for good.
treacletart
But how will he come back? My vote is on Melisandre's assistance. Possibly after realizing he's Azor Ahai reborn. Wishful thinking though.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
I'm not so sure he's Azor Ahai, but I do think Melisandre will have a hand in whatever happens
treacletart
I actually am gonna retract that theory after hearing another Imgurian's theory. I think the fact that he's a Targaryen is the real deal.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
Oh yeah, R+L=J for life! I'm like 99% certain
Schmedes
Well Jon should've questioned his own decisions. Don't disregard your soldiers' opinions and don't break every vow possible.
ItsAGameOfSchlongs
I honestly figrured him sitting on the Iron Throne
Lookatmyballs
Well he has a chance since he has fulfilled his oath to the watch.
Schmedes
My thought is that regardless of what happens, Dany and Jon won't sit the IT. It's too fairytale and it'll be someone who isn't worthy.
ItsAGameOfSchlongs
Dont say those things, not now, dude
hearthstoneaccount3
Sadly there has been a prophecy so we know its gonna happen
Schmedes
There is no prophecy that says either will sit on the throne at the end. Dany may conquer Westeros and then die soon after.
treacletart
Which prophecy is this?
Pickleslicer
To be honest it's why I stopped watching the show. It was really good but when all my favorite people died there was no motivation to watch.
manslut
"All my favorite people died." If your favorite people are dead, then you like the wrong people.
getawesome
If you stop at the pilot episode, you can just imagine that Ned Stark succeeded king Robert and his children are all happy.
aroha93
I said this exact same thing the other day and everyone called me a baby :(
Lookatmyballs
Every story doesn't need a happy ending.
SlippitySlappityLovinLifeAndWife
booooooo. quitter.
Mclovin21
I like it but I don't like the deaths just for the point of being edgy.Its not that cool anymore after bad shit happens every single episode
sheldortq
I'm sorry you don't like having emotions.
Lookatmyballs
Not every story has to have a happy ending. Go watch the Road or read the book that is first class story telling with no happy ending.
DezTurkish
If you watch it for the story then the motivation may be there. I gave up favorites early on in the books bc it wasn't just about them.
nowitsshowtime
I don't watch the show because I don't feel like having favorite characters die, and having to reset the cycle and the new faves die, x5
HalfJudPrince
Have fun getting old then.
Soundoftesticles
agree, I don't feel like they "replacing" them with new interesting characters
eichelburglar
HBO is really embellishing killing people. Most people are actually alive and well in the books. But the show has a casting budget, so...
hearthstoneaccount3
Thats because the show has cut all the new interesting characters that they get replaced with in the books.
PandraPierva
That is truer than hell
guzzball
This is a bigger show problem than books. In the books only 4 POV characters have actually died, 2 not even big enough to be in the show.
ickaickaickaptchanggggg
which?
Trumpcard814
Robb wasn't a pov character was he? That should have been some foreshadowing
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
He wasn't, actually.
Sefren
Robb wasn't even that important a character in the books though. Most of the stuff he did was told to Caitlyn rather than her witnessing it
guzzball
Out of the 25 POV characters, Ned, Catelyn (can even exclude her), Arys Oakheart, and Quentyn Martell. Jon's fate is more vague in the books
Idownvoteyoursobstories
Why can you exclude her. Her dur spoilers technically
guzzball
I'm kind of late, but she gets revived. BUT, death has changed her so much she's hardly the same person.
Highcalibur10
One of the characters that's been left out of the show. The Red god (kind of) revives her.
GeneticGenius
oh man - its why I like it. It's not like every other show. You are constantly on your toes and never can expect whats going to happen. (1)
ADJEKTIVE
But in the show they've gone from not helping the good guys to actually helping the bad guys.
GeneticGenius
Also - daenerys targaryen is still alive so I am not sure why you said all your favorite people are dead? (2)
treacletart
for the first couple books I found Dany unlikeable. I came around to liking her but she's definitely never been a favorite.
ADJEKTIVE
But in the show they've gone from not helping the good guys to actually helping the bad guys.
DezTurkish
And Martin might say "that's how life is". He doesn't write classic tales where good guys come back in round 2 and kick ass.
ADJEKTIVE
Except in the books, the bad guys don't get the extra help they do in the in show.
DezTurkish
Maybe it's the show that's mucking with the plot, then.
ADJEKTIVE
Except in the books, the bad guys don't get the extra help they do in the in show.
aShogunNamedMarcus
When you think about it, everyone you know now is divided into two groups: those you'll have to watch die, those that will watch you die
nacko
The group that is neither is the largest.
aShogunNamedMarcus
Oh wait we're talking about the show... damn real life, you depressing
ra66itz
Unless: planecrash
aShogunNamedMarcus
Ah yes, that's a good loophole to hope for
mons1292
Welp. I'm sad now, thanks. (Like it's all your fault this is reality lol)
XiYen13
tbh, if I ever created a story arc like GoT, I'd do the same thing. I'd rather spin a heart stopping epic, not power fantasy dribble.
DownvoteFairly
Why? GRRM has done quite well penning his stroke material.
DMGuy
Problem is that it isn't "real" or "gritty" anymore, because the show pulls *constant* Deus ex Machina, it's just in favor of the villains.
XiYen13
I'm referencing the books rather than the show.
DMGuy
Yeah, but most people are complaining about the show here, because that's what the majority of people are exposed to.
Zziltoid
And yet y'all love Tolkien, Harry Potter, marval, etc etc...
XiYen13
Those are just the stories that have good writing. For every LotR there are dozens of shitty ripoffs and bland bandwagon tripe.
flyingsolow
There's so much 'gritty fantasy' tripe published now though. I like Brandon Sanderson because he keeps it fresh, but still familiar.
GenStrike
The irony being, of course, that the narrative arc of popular fantasy dribble originates in classical "epic". Gilgamesh? Beowulf? ...Conan?
icypants
Yeah but in Gigamesh and Beowulf not all ends with sunshine and happiness for everyone, unlike many modern fantasies.
GenStrike
Ah, right... the modern tendency to leave stories open, so that they can be franchised into a sequel. Capitalism is outright bad for art.
Irishda
That's why I don't read comic books
SarcasticComment
Not really. By the last book, dead isn't exactly dead anymore when characters keep getting the chance to come bake
nation543
For the Watch?
DustySquirrel
dat White Widow Walker in the Game of Bongs
SetOfAllSubsets
Yet another reason to legalize weed. Has the power to resurrect fallen heros.
plainandsimpleGarak
Ooh I love to see them baked!
bluefalcn
Spoiler alert
Youts
Where does one bake in this story ?
SarcasticComment
Hotpie. He bakes
iwishicouldthinkofaclevername
Death the great leavener.
TotesNotTheNSA
Wait... Ned's coming back?!?
SuzyTheSasquatch
Like lemon bars? I could sure go for some lemon bars right about now.
madnorwegian
White bakers
Frilbert
I was going to comment about baking, but now I see I've come too late to be clever. C'est la Vie
BookSmart
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryog-cgp9_I
SarcasticComment
best song ever.
hatlessspider
made me think of this http://loldb.gameguyz.com/images/skins_big_skin_fid_path/morgana-sinful-succulence.jpg
SpaceballsTheComment
sooo... don't they burn their dead fellows?
beeratius
To quote American Gods "there's dead, then there's dead, then there's dead, you know?"
walkingBushie
Speaking of which, I'd be far more interested in an American Gods show than the current Game of Thrones one.
beeratius
I'm not entirely sure how well it would work as a show to be honest, especially the behind the scenes parts
infogulch
OH OH! IS THERE A BAKE SALE?
SarcasticComment
procedes go to funding the wall
0100111001100101011011111
What kind of cake?
FrigginCornflakes
Lemoncakes
IMayHaveTimeForThat
Your simple typo has led to many giggles by others. +1 you
MissusPennybags
Frey pies!
IAmAsianHearMeRoar
I'm high right now and would love the characters to bake with me!
ADJEKTIVE
Yes, but it's not like LOTR, were Gandalf comes back as the same Gandalf. They're twisted versions of themselves.
ADJEKTIVE
Yes, but it's not like LOTR, were Gandalf comes back as the same Gandalf. They're twisted versions of themselves.
Snooj
My wife would love Jon Snow to come bake. She's wreck the kitchen with him.
Opportunist
Somethin's risin', IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. ;)
fueledbytea
Hopefully there's no yeast involved.
thewaiting28
Something something baking typo.
poopedtuba
did someone say bake?
Bwethy
There are 2 types of people in the world, this and those who immediately thought of cookies
Tofubutton
I can't think of a single main character that has come back
davemymindisgoingicanfeelit
Wait for it.
SarcasticComment
Stay tuned for Jon
bremilla
Caitlyn has...at least in the books
Irishda
Yes but it's also the hero GRRM's talking about. The heroes of Game of Thrones (Tyrion, Jon, Dany) are protected by plot armor.
Irishda
As other's have said, Jon is coming back.
Tofubutton
True I've never really been worried about Dany. I suppose if he doesn't kill Dany in the end he will be a big fat liar!
Anfalicious
First spoiler I've stumbled across randomly on the internet since it began... As this is about the author I'll forgive it.
Anfalicious
Also, not mad, more surprised this doesn't happen more often. I'll get high and forget I read that (suspected it anyway ;) )
raftus
Hot Pie agrees with you
trapinch
HOT PIE that's my name bye
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
Do not spoil things!!
SpecimenSpiff
That's why I usually just skip any GoT posts for fear of spoilage.
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
To be fair, I am only on season 2. I was trying to read them before watching the show... George is a long winded author,
jawsnnn
...cookies for everyone
Welcome2TheThunderdome
Why isn't this top comment?...
SarcasticComment
except for the hound, he gets chicken
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
Bake LEMON CAKES AND FREY PIE, YOU MEAN!
Keleesi
Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any Frey pies in the show world :/
BrotherSeamus
...Manderly meat pies!
SpecimenSpiff
Brownies?
heartinlandslide
Wake and bake
brensinsta
Born admist salted chips and smoke from the bong
Pangs
Never miss a chance.
Opportunist
Perfect comment, +1! :D
LinRick
Signed in to upvote this comment. Well done, sir!
heartinlandslide
I am no man. But thank you nonetheless!
LinRick
Neither am I! My apologies, fellow lady of Imgur!
Bwethy
Don't you love it when characters come back just to do some baking
DrLambency
Pantheon?
griffinzoth
Zombie cookies heck yes
SarcasticComment
...zing :-(
NedStarksOtherBastard
Baking with Gordon Ramsay Bolton.
JerichoSeatToHelk
"With co-host Gordon Ramsay!"
bdrillard
I definitely do. Is Dany gonna get done in by Dothraki? Or bake muffins?
snoops
Both
Xanxuz10th
John Snow knows nothing about red velvet cake
guzzball
Hot Pie
ganjanomicon
still making bread for the brotherhood. Poor sap
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
CLEGANEBOWL
BeneathTheGoldTheBittersteel
http://40.media.tumblr.com/012906c8be2b8d78a2557d6948be05bc/tumblr_np4bub4fPK1tydeego1_500.png
ProjectBadass
WHAT IS HYPE MAY NEVER DIE
introducedspecies
HYYYYPEEEE
Chronicle
GET HYPE
TopsunPB
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!
llamallary
Do you do business cards and/or corporate logos?
tfmechanic
that's really only happened to two people, and they kinda came back wrong.
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
There are plenty of people throughout the series presumed dead that turn out to be alive and well though
SomebodyStoleMyCarRadio
...'kay.
33WhiskeyTX
Mance came back too. We burned him! Except it wasn't him. They've confirmed he's dead in GOT though.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
It only needs to happen once for the possibility to exist. Then that fear he talks about is assuaged by some hope.
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
Coldhands wasn't wrong.
SarcasticComment
Dondarrion was raised multiple times, but he lost a piece of himself every time so there's ground for coming back as a functioning person
tfmechanic
And he gave it up for Katlyn, who's not really herself but an avatar of vengeance. I forgot Gregor, but he's more "reanimated" than alive.
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
Catelyn Stark*, by the way, for future reference.
SarcasticComment
I'm assuming that Melisandre will give Jon the Dondarrion Special now that he's basically a human pin cushion
LadyJareth
Jon is 100% coming back in Ghost. I have no doubts about that.
SarcasticComment
true, Katlyn was killed and tossed into a river so there's likely some damage that can't be undone to that one.
eichelburglar
undead Gregor is just theory. GRRM gives lots of A or B options, but it's usually C - which is the simplest & straightforward. Qyburn may >>
eichelburglar
>> simply have saved him. But he needs a new identity bc Cersei sent a large skull to Dorne in hopes to settle the matter. A lie, obviously
SarcasticComment
SPOILERS: Dondarrion, Katlyn, the Mountain, Coldhands (assuming he's Benjen), poorly done Khal Drogo, and I suspect Jon Snow in the future
ArniePye
Mountain didn't die though
ArniePye
Also Beric is dead
eichelburglar
unMountain is just a theory. Qyburn simply curing him is the probability. But they have to keep it a secret or prove Cersei a liar. >>
eichelburglar
>> Because she sent a "large skull" to Dorne saying it was the Mountain's to prove he died. But it was obviously a trick.
Jacolini
I always thought we was a headless zombie. That's why nobody can't see anything behind his helm.
CerebrawlHemmorage
Tyrion as well, sort of (book version, dunno about tv series).
CerebrawlHemmorage
I'm specifically thinking of his little drowning mishap.
Jacolini
That's a bit of a stretch saying he came back to life. He never was really dead.
TheSwedishMoose
IIRC, Martin had specifically stated that Coldhands is not Benjen.
SarcasticComment
didn't know that. I'll scratch that off the list of theories
TheSwedishMoose
BoKnowsBest
Coldhands is definitely not Benjen. The Mountain never technically died and we can't be 100% he's Robert Strong. And Drogo didn't die either
Ifavoritepenguins
The show confirmed that Robert Strong = mountain. At least his body, he probably doesn't have a head and he is not the mountain anymore
Shovi
Didn't they give The Mountain's head to the Martells? They did say it was a pretty big skull, whose else can it be?
balrogthane
I agree with @tfmechanic. Only Dondarrion and Katlyn [sic] really "came back," and they definitely are not who they were.
leafspring
What about the Mountain and, possibly, Brienne and Pod? Also, Jon Snow will be back with 100% certainty.
balrogthane
I agree, Jon is coming back. The Mountain is more of a zombie than a return, and I don't think Brienne and Pod have any "coming back" to do.
limonchiki
Brienne and Pod died?
dro1215
Drogo wasn't dead brah
SarcasticComment
he was in limbo so it's a bit of a gray area. He would be dead if it weren't for the blood magic
dro1215
He was dying from a mortal wound so yes, but Mira masdor didn't resurrect him she cured him and turned him into a vegetable.
BritaThePurifier
Also Varamyr Sixskins, but that's in his wolf.
ProjectBadass
Sixskins eventually takes over a woman doesn't he?
Shovi
Tries to, but she rejected him and ended dying and becoming a white walker.
SarcasticComment
If I remember correctly, six skins was imprinted in his eagle that attached Jon
BritaThePurifier
He jumps around a lot. Wolf and eagle were temporary bodies for him, but I think wolf might have been the most recent.
Jacolini
That was Orell. Varamyr did enter said eagle but almost went insane when Mel burned it. He imprints himself in his wolf before dying.
CTMGame
Caitlyn comes back? :O
ballsohard2202
Not in the show she won't. They decided to drop that arch. She comes back as an undead witch lady named lady stone heart. She's also evil
garthol
Not really evil imo, just driven to pseudo-insanity by anger and grief.
thisduderighthere
Frey sympathizer!