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I am a guy who through highschool thought a lot about physics and the universe, and subsequently annoyed my physics teacher with all kinds of questions about light, the universe and everything in between. I wanted to study physics (and still want to at some point) but the level of my physics classes was too low and my real pasion was programming, so now im a programmer with a lot of weird questions and no one educated enough in physics to ask them to. So i turn to you physics students/teachers/professors of imgur, help me obi-wan, you're my only hope.
Timey-wimey bendy spacetime
This is one of the assumptions i have build many of my questions on and it is probably a flawed understanding of the subject but i hope it is at least a little correct. My question is if spacetime bends like a coordinate system where an axis has been rotated, such that any movement along that axis actually also results in movement along some other axis. The idea here is that you can go "straight forward" in some direction in space and still have a curved path through space as a result of the bend spacetime making the space in front of you curve in some other direction than the one you are going. In my mind the traveler would still percieve his path to be straight, he would just end up in a place that wasn't in front of him.
Front to back light in curved space
This one relies on the assumption above and some youtube videos about light bending around stars and other massive objects. Say you have some near black-hole mass object, such that light is still able to escape its gravity but spacetime is curved to as close as it would be with an actually black-hole. Would a light beam hitting the object in some place and the escaping from the surface, move to the diametricly opposite point of the object if spacetime is bend enough. This is also a hypothesis i have about the proposed warp-drive design that squishes and stretches spacetime around the object to move faster than light, would a lightbeam hitting the front of the warping spacecraft be squished and stretched to the back of the spacecraft so you can see both the front and the back of the craft at the rear end of the warp field? Another smaller question in the same vein would be if anything interesting happens at near black hole mass?
Bendy spacetime in black holes
A final question for this post, if it is true that spacetime curves and makes straight paths curved would it be conceivable that the reason nothing can escape the event horizon of a black hole is that there is simply no path where going in a straight line doesnt lead you back to the center of the black hole? And that the event horizon of the black hole might be where all the paths leading away from it start bending back towards it?
I know that 140 characters might not be enough to adequately answer my questions, unless the answer is "you're wrong" of course. And it is certainly not enough characters to discuss general relativity in depth, so please pm me if you have some answers and nothing better to do, it would be greatly appreciated.
oblivire
I was under the impression that the vertical axis of spacetime is gravity? So of course it curves. The main thing is that time curves, too
SubtleOrc
you're right. at the event Horizon there are no space/time paths out of the black hole.
Sensino
Text 4: in short, Yes that is correct.
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Timey wimey bendy spacetime: Yes Relativity is based on this assumption. A plane flying assumes it’s moving in a straight line from A to B
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But the curvature of spacetime bends this imaginary line taking the plane on a curved trajectory.
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Bendy spacetime in blackholes: Yes. The curvature of space is at its extreme around the event Horizon. You would have to travel faster ...
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... than the curvature of spacetime to escape the blackhole, but doing so may result in other very peculiar phenomena; Time Travel
Sensino
First ever picture taken of a black hole in a visible light spectrum. The event horizon is clearly visible:
niceguy57
I see times wimey I upvote
Sensino
text 3: the light would makee a U-turn, it wouldn't continue forward (with less than completing a full revolution, but then it's trapped...
Sensino
... in an event horizon, because a circle has no end, the only way to escape then is to increase the speed but that's impossible for light)
Sensino
It's basically also the answer to the last part in text 4
Sensino
text 3: The only way a light would come out from the opposite side would be if the object is transparent (like enormous sun-sized diamond)..
Sensino
...Gravity would at most (compared to stationary observer) red-shift the light (or first blue- then red-shift it, I'm not sure)
Sensino
Don't think of space-time like this:
or...
Sensino
...or like this:
Archerlite
Question 2 (not so good understood) : There is NO object with a near-blackhole mass. Either you are a blackhole nor you are really...
Archerlite
far to reach it's mass, or even something close to that mass.
Archerlite
So that the rest of the question can't have any answer as well as for the "faster than light aircraft"
Sensino
When a sun dies, if it is more than 3.2 times our sun it forms a black hole, otherwise a neutron star, that is the closest to a black hole
Sensino
The spacetime around heavy objects is NOT rotated, it gets increasingly compressed near the center of the object, so...
Sensino
...so the inner path (relative to heavy object) is shorter than the outer path & therefore the path is curved.
Sensino
Maybe far fetched: just like a spinning CD disc, the inner circles are shorter than the outer, but outer rotates faster than inner circles
CajunFries
The speed of the rotation is the same, but the linear speed is different. I assume you typo'd
Sensino
I mean the difference in circumference as longer/shorter. We both mean the same thing.
Sensino
One thing: gravitation IS curved spacetime. (but I don't know if you can rotate spacetime around an axes (my intuition says possible))
OsbornThorsguard
Im glad to hear that im possibly partially on to something, my meaning wasnt that spacetime could be rotated around an axis but rather....
OsbornThorsguard
...if bend spacetime behaved like a rotated axis, in the way that a straight path might lead you in curve for someone outside your....
OsbornThorsguard
...reference frame, however you would still think you are going straight because you can only perceive it that way in you reference frame
Sensino
You can detect the curved path if you move sideways to the gravity well, that how "gravitational lensing" (Google it) works in astronomy.
Archerlite
Question 1 :
Archerlite
(sry)So... I think no one can really understand Einstein's relativity (even him maybe) because it's tooooo missunderstanding. But...
Archerlite
The time is the 4th dimension and so you move curved into it because of gravity, but you aren't curved in the three others dimensions...
Archerlite
The only problem is that human mind as well as human perceptions can't figure out time and "see" it.
Sensino
Don't underestimate the human mind,the space/time concept isn't so hard to understand as the average person thinks,just study enough physics
Archerlite
You ever go in straight path in the SPACE, but not in the TIME. SPACIALLY straight, TIMING curved. So, from outdoor watcher, space curved...