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irisewithredeyes
Why isn't this man the U.S. president?
Darkspire
Triple his security
SteveD31415
There is no threat here to capitalism. Just compete. That's what you claim to do right?
nclu
Me: skeptical this first try works out (grocery margins are notoriously low, can't squeeze blood from a stone)
Also, me: Don't buy out the private infrastructure owners. Build government owned networks, drive them into the dirt, and then buy their capital at fire-sale prices when you've undercut them.
Idrinkforevil
Weird that its the £radical left lunatics£ that are actually taking care of people. WEird.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
now if only our administration would follow this example instead of take it as a threat.
Hendlton
I don't expect this from the current administration, but I wish that Democrats ran on this. They'd win by a landslide. But no, they're still going to pretend that it can't be done.
mrmartini
The only thing this administration needs to do is go fuck itself straight to hell
buttcreambandit
I really hope these work
GimcrackGewgaw
Stupidest fucking way to feed people in NYC. This problem doesn't get solved by putting a supermarket in fucking Hunts Point.
ropetopus
No one said this will solve the problem? Just that it’s something that’s likely to help, and if it’s successful can be relatively easily expanded.
FFS stop expecting perfection out the gate
GimcrackGewgaw
They're going to spend $30mm on the harlem location before the doors open. It's a sparkly bit of bullshit that could instead feed a TON of people.
LespritDeLescalier22
Why are they taking away my right to starve
Poopoopeepeevagina
And I think the goal is to sell the food at cost. So the city won't profiting from sales. Which is intended to keep food prices lower. I THINK...
ipointoutnahtzeesbyreplyingtothem
Now do this across the board. Every industry, every commercial good and service, every utility especially internet. No socialism, just have government owned non-profit alternatives for everything, run just like the USPS. And when the capitalists cry, tell them it's up to them to compete in the open market.
Khanamana324
Gods, wish we had a progressive like Mamdani running in California. Our most progressive candidate is a billionaire. The rest are a bunch of larping neoliberals.
SinStar87
You're telling me the 16ish people running for LA mayor none are socialist? SMH what are the requirements of running for mayor that socialists can't manage?
spaghettiThunderbolt
Yeah, but at least y'all have a massive budget deficit while spending billions on free healthcare for illegals and also fighting the federal government to keep issuing CDLs to illegals.
BoobJiggle
The sound bite nugget that everybody parrots is that California's economy is larger than a lot of countries .. but they stop there. They never realize that if you remove Hollywood's elite that just hoard money, and silicon valley billionaires, suddenly California's poor as fuck and massively overpriced.
(Sauce: born and raised, first 30 years of life spent there)
That isn't to say, however, that I don't still love California and miss it everyday.
TiredBanana
Zios are gonna murder this man.
Khanamana324
And the cops will let them.
FreeRangeToast
the fact that some people are against this guy on matters of policy is so flagrantly revelatory to the overwhelming degree that state propaganda has suffused the sociopolitical imagination of the US citizenry. fucking disgusting.
tidepool
These are typically not sustainable, others have tried, but they fail for legitimate reasons, but I wish him the best and hope he figures out how to actually make that work.
themuffulettaisalsoaverygoodsandwich
It's ok for it to operate at a loss. The goal is to feed people, not make a profit. Presumably.
LostCaterpillar
Do you have an example of where you think they've failed because a quick search just turn up people saying "this'll be just like the Soviet Union" which seems to me like an unhelpful comparison.
torbtom
Communaly owned cooperative stores have existed here for more than a century, and today approximately half of all grocery stores are such. They are competing on the market without subsidies and manage fine. If anything they act as a guard against price hikes or monopolies. Not sure how the NY shops will work, but this is a proven and functioning concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kooperativa_Förbundet
stratospherecaster
After the first sentence I thought this was about Oslo or Zurich
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
It's wild how much can be done and done so quickly when folks WANT to
MadamPuddifoot
I saw a headline about how he's failing. I think it was from The Hill. I didn't even bother clicking.
laurapede83
Yes, it's just like another poster said, it's the difference between can do and will do. We all know it can be done, but will do is a whole different story.
WiiShaker
Agree. Potential is unlimited. Action, unfortunately, is selective.
IBroughtASpareDrainpipe
This leader is AWESOME!
Hatsodoom
How quickly are republicunts gonna try and assassinate him? He's a threat because he actually gets shit done and improves lives.
spaghettiThunderbolt
He hasn't gotten shit done and isn't improving lives. These stores are going to be hives of theft and robbery until they're forced to close.
Hatsodoom
Please take trumps penis out of your mouth before posting.
spaghettiThunderbolt
This may come as a shock, but it's entirely possible to lean right and not support that piece of shit. Although in this case, being against Mamdani and communism in general is more about having common sense than leaning right.
Hatsodoom
Please take the right's dick out of your mouth before posting.
spaghettiThunderbolt
Wow, you're so hilarious. Please move to a country that's already a leftist "paradise," like North Korea or Cuba, instead of trying to turn this country into one.
charondaboatman
It’s the richest city in the world, but the US isn’t even in the top 5 richest countries.
Subsound
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bittenicht39
Yes it is, more GDP than the the ranks 2,3, and 4 combined. https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/
charondaboatman
Measure the GDP per capita. Also, US debt is now 123% of GDP. A first since WWII. https://gfmag.com/data/richest-countries-in-the-world/
bittenicht39
Yes, you are right with this measure. As a whole, the US is the richest, but the individual/average/median wealth is abysmal, together with a wealth Gini index of more than 0.80, meaning the huge total wealth is distributed extremely asymmetric.
waffleresidence
That is very wrong
charondaboatman
Per capita GDP, it’s number 8, as of the end of 2025.
waffleresidence
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waffleresidence
You are judging by the citizens in the country and their total wealth but you mentioned wealth as a country. As a country, the US is the richest economy/country since the 60s. If you want to be pedantic that’s ok but if we are being pedantic, let’s stay on the original pedantry of your claim.
charondaboatman
A country is a country because of its citizens. It wouldn’t have a GDP without them. Per person GDP is the fairest way to judge the wealth of a nation. But since the original post doesn’t mention how they calculated it, I’m using my methodology. You can use whatever metric you want. Like the number of racist, self righteous assholes. The U.S. is waaaay out in front.
waffleresidence
You can use your methodology, just make sure it matches what you’re claiming. Technically we are both correct but you’re connecting the wrong things. If you say the US is not the richest country, that’s not the case, it is the richest country, if you said its people are are not the richest you are correct, they are the 8th richest.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
darthstormer
But.....how does this funnel money directly from poor people into the pockets of billionaires? Does this guy even know how to politician?
themuffulettaisalsoaverygoodsandwich
Not saying it WILL go this way, but here's an opportunity for fuckery: "the City, will select experienced, third-party grocery operator(s) through a competitive procurement process."
https://edc.nyc/program/nyc-groceries
themuffulettaisalsoaverygoodsandwich
That's the kind of situation where the winning bidder can only increase profit by cutting services and payroll. If it were up to me, I would create a nonprofit to to run the stores and hire experienced talent to administer. Then I would hire people from the community to run the stores themselves and pay those community members some of these $30/hr min wages they talked about.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
The billionaires still sell the food
johnblood616
Some redneck fuckwit in Bugscuttle: "Noo Yuh-ork is rooned!"
sbro11
if that man and his politics goes viral in murica for real, then maybe, just maybe the rest of the world could return to trusting her again, but then again: you are always just one effing "election" from the next super-idiot.
dirtcreature
If his policies *work* and are *sustainable* he will do fine. Right now the rich in NYC (and US) are flush with stock market cash and so is NYC. If a crash happens his policies will become unaffordable. He is already unpopular with bodegas in the area of the shops - those are family run immigrant businesses.
xj4low
That is also the reason why companies don't build new production plants here in the US. They are always just 1 midnight truth away from not needing to spend hundreds of millions and years planning.
CorvidPrime
I would love for us yo get more people like this guy, but living here and watching everything that’s going on…? I’m thinking things are about to start SERIOUSLY hurting over here… Like, Great Depression levels of pain.
My wife and I have no kids and both work in STEM fields and are definitely feeling it. The average American is already suffering, and it’s just getting worse… What do we expect from someone who bankrupted casinos?
ac0lyte
We expect the orange parasite to bankrupt the country while liquidating the assets and putting all the gains into personal accounts.
anarchoFeline
bro the CIA is gonna kill him
cromstantinople
Republicans (and too many democrats) seem hellbent on making sure this quote rings true: “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” -H.L. Mencken
sbro11
every effing time!
hsalonen3000
I am just gonna say this: this is socialism. This is directly against capitalism, where stores can set what prices they want and only compete with other stores. I am not saying this is bad, I am just saying that this is an anti-capitalist policy. But some of those are good for you, now do free universal healthcare.
BilltheCatisBack
Almost Nothing is free. You mean state funded healthcare. Still a bargain compared to today.
GasolineRain
I have less knowledge about economics than almost any other field besides like, aerospace engineering I guess, so this is a legit and dumb question. Don't they just compete with the city store like normal? I don't mean prices per se but like, to get people to go there. They already compete for people to come when there's food banks, restaurants, buffets, cookouts, free food pantries, etc - like, they already have to make people choose to shop there. How is this different than a discount
hsalonen3000
I am a computer science major, but real laws that enact social change would force local grocery stores to donate expired food to food banks, shelters. Not this. This is goverment creating competition. I am not against this, but for reasons like you said it will be a goverment store competing against privately owned enterprises. To be truly successful this store would have to sell goods at cost, and then make loss on expired goods / theft. Or even on rent costs, security costs,utilities,personnel
GasolineRain
grocery store moving in? Is it because the government can reduce the prices lower? But any store could do that with promotions and subsidies and there's already people giving away free food, so it seems like not a huge distinction. Anyway I love the idea and people need to eat more than Whole Foods needs another 25 trillion dollar profit. I just probably truly don't understand economic competition lol. Anyone willing to explain to a STEM-and-art type person, go right ahead
Khanamana324
No it’s not, this is a basic social safety net.
EmanNiemThcin
Hm, no. You can do a social safety net without a publicly owned retail stores, most nations do. This is pretty much 1:1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handelsorganisation Now, whether that's good or bad is a completely different question. Personally I'm do not consider 'socialism' to be a dirty word unlike so many US-ians.
2ti6x
the united states are not the richest country in the world and haven't been for a while.
VitaminJay
No one deserves to go hungry, regardless of GDP.
TheAnswerIsViolence
By what metric? If you're measuring GDP, the US is by far the richest. China is about 10 trillion behind.
2ti6x
https://gfmag.com/data/richest-countries-in-the-world/
TheAnswerIsViolence
That's per capita. The post was not saying the American people are the richest. It's saying the US is the richest.
GDP by Country (2026) - Worldometer https://share.google/QvBpBXRV0SQnDgkJM
funone77
When that GDP goes to the unsatiable greed at the top while the bottom 60 suffer, it is arguably the shittiest metric ever.
TheAnswerIsViolence
I mean yeah. That's the point of the post. We have a huge GDP and the people aren't getting enough of it. We live in the richest country ever that could give all of it's citizens amazing lives, but chooses not to. Mamdani is hopefully going to lead the change there.
SomeDetroitGuy
You're SO CLOSE to understanding what is going on. Damn, it is like you are almost there.
funone77
If i missed a point, maybe you could explain it instead of whatever this is?
inboxmefoxes
Yeah, and the point is that the money is there, we just don't tax the motherfuckers properly. The US could have ABSURDLY high standards of living, and it's utterly bonkers that the gigabillionaires don't understand that their businesses will actually thrive even more with happy workers, generally speaking.
RocMage
FEEDING PEOPLE? That sounds like socialism!
I'd put a /s on the end there, but it does sound like socialism in addition to sounding FREAKIN AWESOME!
SinStar87
Noone else said it but I will, no the socialism is when you ask why they have no food.
SinStar87
Is my guy Camara forgotten to history? :(
chackstar
That’s good but have you considered, and hear me out on this one, cutting SNAP benefits instead?
codeacrobat
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Workmeme
sOcIaLiSm?!?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEreeeeeeeeeeeeRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
pekkhum
From just this it sounds like back when the UK had council housing. It isn't free, but it sets a bar for affordability and quality, ensuring a minimum option for people, while forcing competition to exceed on quality or compete on price. That system worked marvelously, until conservatives created rules designed to destroy it.
So, yeah! Pretty awesome!
My source, in case you are interested:
https://youtu.be/jZpLiJdIGbs
counterintel
THIS IS SOMEHOW THE FAULT OF IMMIGRANTS!! *rabble rabble rabble*
Khanamana324
That isn’t socialism, it’s a basic social safety net.
BeardicPerformance
No. Publicly owned grocery stores are pretty explicitly socialism. The fact it’s also a basic safety net should really make you question whether “socialism” is really such a bad thing.
Khanamana324
Oh, we’re well aware that socialism is the way to shift the balance of power toward labour. I’m just concerned that, because these stores would be government owned, it would be dictated by said government rather than allowing the folks running the shop to do that. Doubt Mamdani would, though there is some concern, as he has reinstated the policy of police terrorizing homeless communities and hasn’t done anything to rein them in. The lack of action on the shutdowns of trans care isn’t a good /1
Khanamana324
/2 look either. We also need to be concerned about whoever succeeds Mamdani to. The man can’t be governor forever.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
It isn't socialism, but it is socially responsible.
Eyeetsass
A publicly owned grocery store is very much socialism.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
The comment is about feeding people, not grocery stores.
Eyeetsass
No way they’re feeding people with a grocery store. That would be socialism.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
The comment I responded to was about feeding people.
Plus, publicly owned grocery stores, as described in the article, are not socialist. The policy aligns more with a social democracy as it isn't about the state taking control, but rather providing a service.
SomeDetroitGuy
No, it absolutely is explicitly socialism. So many people have knee-jerk reactions to saying something isnt socialism that when a very obvious and very clear example appears they simply say "that isnt socialism but it is socially responsible". There isnt anything more socialist than public ownership of essential goods and services.
sfrinlan
Just to be a tool, I'd disagree on "isn't anything more socialist" and say maybe something slightly more socialist would be if the means of production like the farms, storage, and transportation of the goods were also publicly or at least cooperatively owned. But, I do agree with the rest of everything you've said, and it's a good and valid point to call out when things are socialism in a good way. Reclaim the term.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
The comment is about feeding people, not publicly owned grocery stores. Feeding people is not socialism.
Additionally, something being publicly owned is not inherently socialist. The post office is publicly owned, for example. Socialism does build on the idea of public ownership; however, publicly owned stores exactly as described in the article is a policy aligned with a social democracy as it is designed to feed people in need, not extend the control of the state.