Jul 19, 2019 8:36 PM
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pdxenburg
So, none of them are American tankers? What is Iran doing with them besides releasing them?
SeasonCat
#sarcasm
absoluttalent
If there are issues there.... Why are these boats getting so close to be seized?
fadingtheory
There seems to be a dispute over who owns the strait these boats are going through, everyone or Iran.
RichGecko
Probably a mix of ~20 mile wide strait, slow tankers and fast patrol boats.
I didn't realize it was so small
GoodRascal
Did you know England seized an Iranian vessel first?
Technically, they requested the port it was at seize it for violating sanctions.
Technically Iran wasn't violating sanctions, (it didn't agree to them), whoever was taking the oil was
I didn't say they seized it cause Iran violated it. But the ship was in violation, so it was seized.
If you and your neighbor agree to boycott Walmart, and your friend goes there anyway, you don't get to seize the Walmart store
The ship wasn't in violation because it wasn't party to the agreement
Yeah, that's not how sanctions work
UncleKitten
Because they were smuggling out crude oil breaking the sanctions on Iran
Iran doesn't have sanctions on Iran
You're a special kind of person aren't you? The UK siezed it for breaking sanctions that are in place against them by others.
UK doesn't have jurisdiction over Iranian property. If it wants to uphold sanctions take it up with other country that agreed to it
If you & I agree to boycott Walmart, Walmart doesn't owe you shit if I decide to go there anyway and buy something. Your beef would be w/ me
What your argument is saying is Iran can declare that UK gets sanctions too before seizing their ships
No, not at all. What the fuck? I'm saying UK seized the ship because sanctions were in place and Iran retaliated.
pdxenburg
So, none of them are American tankers? What is Iran doing with them besides releasing them?
SeasonCat
#sarcasm
absoluttalent
If there are issues there.... Why are these boats getting so close to be seized?
fadingtheory
There seems to be a dispute over who owns the strait these boats are going through, everyone or Iran.
RichGecko
Probably a mix of ~20 mile wide strait, slow tankers and fast patrol boats.
absoluttalent
I didn't realize it was so small
GoodRascal
Did you know England seized an Iranian vessel first?
SeasonCat
Technically, they requested the port it was at seize it for violating sanctions.
pdxenburg
Technically Iran wasn't violating sanctions, (it didn't agree to them), whoever was taking the oil was
SeasonCat
I didn't say they seized it cause Iran violated it. But the ship was in violation, so it was seized.
pdxenburg
If you and your neighbor agree to boycott Walmart, and your friend goes there anyway, you don't get to seize the Walmart store
pdxenburg
The ship wasn't in violation because it wasn't party to the agreement
SeasonCat
Yeah, that's not how sanctions work
UncleKitten
Because they were smuggling out crude oil breaking the sanctions on Iran
pdxenburg
Iran doesn't have sanctions on Iran
UncleKitten
You're a special kind of person aren't you? The UK siezed it for breaking sanctions that are in place against them by others.
pdxenburg
UK doesn't have jurisdiction over Iranian property. If it wants to uphold sanctions take it up with other country that agreed to it
pdxenburg
If you & I agree to boycott Walmart, Walmart doesn't owe you shit if I decide to go there anyway and buy something. Your beef would be w/ me
pdxenburg
What your argument is saying is Iran can declare that UK gets sanctions too before seizing their ships
UncleKitten
No, not at all. What the fuck? I'm saying UK seized the ship because sanctions were in place and Iran retaliated.