May 4, 2021 7:22 PM
ShemnonShadowalker
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#star_wars #carrie_fisher #may_the_4th #maythe4thbewithyou
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cedarcomb
Does that include the guys? Were Luke and Han rocking it commando style?
dashriproc1
Carrie's book, Surrender the Pink, refers to what a gentleman demanded of Carrie in her hotel room. Good times. Book link in reply. 1/
https://www.amazon.com/Surrender-Pink-Carrie-Fisher/dp/1476702616 2/
atomicsockmonkey
The top half of your body does swell a bit at first when experiencing zero-g, but SW has artificial gravity.
kalohasunshine
Love and miss my Princess
Grocken
pcrawColorRunner
Then that stickler for accuracy George should have removed all the noisy explosions, too - bras can travel through space, but sound cannot
redditmcredditface
Have you seen Shampoo? George clearly did.
BTW, Goldie Hawn is a goddamned gem.
rshini
Again, for as obsessed as men are with tits, they don't know how they work
EalisLav
Today he'd got sued for it.
LordBaneoftheSith
If he made a habit of saying shit like that to people that weren't good friends, he fucking should be.
Feldspartacus
Man it must be rough watching the days of overt, sexist comments slip through your fingers like so much involuntarily celibate sand.
NiceGreenArrows
Nah. If he drugged and raped her he'd get in trouble 20 years later?
WenTheEternallySurprised
If time passes it's suddenly okay? I'm not sure I'm reading you right.
No, I'm saying that often people don't get in ACTUAL trouble until a while later. :/
LusciousLucius
No? There's huge protections for artistic choice. Even choices as pervy as this. If the character/setting says no bras, then no fkn bras.1/2
If he tried to tell her what she can or can't wear OUTSIDE of filming, on the other hand... Yeah. Sued. And rightfully so. 2/2
not sure why the downvotes, that is exactly what would happen... and rightfully so.
Exactly. However, many of 'progressive people' here are being offended by anything that requires thinking about intentions of comment>>
George Lucas' wasn't funny with this. Deceiving Carrie Fisher to remove bra by pseudoscience was plain dirty.
Or more than likely, the actress just wouldnt work on the film without massive amounts of money.
It wouldn't, though. And I'm saying that from experience. Director has full control over who they cast and what they ask of their actors 1/?
On stage. If they say no bras, no bras. If they say there's gonna be a nude scene, there's a nude scene. Otherwise the actor just doesn't2/?
Sign the contract and another one does instead. You can't sue a director for directing you while onstage as long as it's in the contract.3/4
No matter how skevy it is, for better or worse. 4/4
darkwing42101
In Rendezvous With Rama Arthur C. Clarke joked that a Captain suspected a bra-less female Astronaut had lead to at least one space accident.
Clarke was an odd one *shrug*.
pandro
The last line made me furious.
The Ramans do everything in threes line? If so the sequels with Gentry Lee were okay but not great.
I was expecting some kind of dramatic denouement. Not a shaggy dog punchline, lol.
He did that often in his short stories, the line about a Star Mangled Spanner in one story comes to mind.
madsander
You’re the first person I know who’s read that book.
EntropyReign
it was made into a "choose your own adventure" style videogame for MS DOS. Arthur C clarke was even included, giving you advice when you die
idiotcube
I played that on Mac 20 years ago! Still have the disks, but nothing that can run them :C
Almost 20 years ago Morgan Freeman wanted to make a movie of it, him staring as the Captain. I was so hyped for it, then nothing happened.
AntaNce
I have also, along with much of Clarke in general. Welcome.
Drenathar
There are dozens of us!
kevbot5000
I'm going to get to it, I swear! I'm just taking a like, 5 year break after slogging through Asimov and Herbert's Sci Fi.
It's worth it, take your time and savour it when you get the time.
skincancerisfun
I've read it. It was good, though every time I see it referenced 'We all live in a yellow submarine' starts playing in my head.
kibbypie
I’ve read all 4
bripi
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!! I, too, have read the entire series. Would have loved a movie of at least the first.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
One of my favourites. Clarke was the master of little details that add levels of believability to a story
church1982
Would you be surprised to know there was a mediocre video game of it as well?
triffidhunter
I've read the series too
whatseventhepoint
For the record: https://www.salon.com/2013/07/02/female_astronauts_wear_bras_says_an_astronaut/
WhichIsIt
So, when on a treadmill and to keep the male astronauts from ogling.
PoppySiddal
That is an awesome bit of knowledge you dropped, thanks!
nosaucesbutapplesauces
We may not even need bras on earth.
whizizzi
I think bras should go the way of high heels... wear them if you want to but don’t feel any obligation
Kronzor
Was there once an obligation to wear high heels?
LordNergal
Yes, but back then men were wearing them.
celestedrake
Except bras are actually comfortable? Or can be if you have right ones.
Little boobs here. What’s the point? Bras just keep my nipples from poking out.
Guess it depends for people. And honestly I want to chop off my boobs rather than need them...
MyHouseOnMars
Totally. I hardly ever wear mine, unless I'm going to the gym or something (and obviously with covid that hasn't happened recently).
pitulina
You’re obviously young ?
leahatard
Or small breasted! I’m also part of the itty bitty titty committee.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
Heels at the gym is a power move
PosthumousExile
Idk what I'd do if I saw a woman in a full corset and stripper heels at the gym. Probably just stand in awe
ITellBadPuns
He's insane, but I think you gotta be a little insane to come up with something like Star Wars.
Housemaster
To come up with? No. To make it on the scale that it was? Absolutely!
All the truly great bits of Ep. 4 were really from the people around him. The movie was great IN SPITE of George.
Crazyeyedpsycho
They say star wars was saved in the edit. His first draft was apparently trash
There are reconstructions of his original, and holy moly, it is truly awful. Embarassingly awful.
StarSynthetik
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Raikupath
It's a western remake of a Japanese drama. It's far from original.
JustSomePersonThere
Sorry homie. He did not come up with Star Wars. It was a collaborative effort with some other greats, like Spielberg, plus writers. He’s
good at merchandising. He was good at monetizing the property. He’s a businessman, not an artist, or a creative person.
nicoleoftheeast
I think the word you're looking for is sexist
TheAccursedHamster
I mean.. his original pitch was even weirder. Most of Star Wars as we know it comes just as much from the minds of people who told him "no".
And grateful he listened to ~some~ of them.
SpanishBiscuit
We can have no creativity without a touch of insanity.
You my friend have just invited the ire of the Dune fanboys.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Why dune? What am I missing?
There are many who like to exaggerate the things that George almost certainly ripped from Dune. They not wrong but I think they exaggerate
Been Gesserit=Jedi, Arrakis=Dune, Dew collectors/windtraps=moisture farmers, Sandworm=Sarlacc, the voice=Jedi kind trick, (spoiler) next
You are my grandfather= I am your father, Fremen=sand people. I could go on
Hobbes777
I hate to be another person on the internet tearing someone’s legacy...but if you look it up you’ll find concerning evidence he lifted>>
Most of Star Wars greatest moments from a comic among other things. I might not say this if he just left his work alone or offered the>>
Originals but he kept touching stuff afterwords. Han shot first.
dougherd6
Han only shot. Greedy didn’t fire at all
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2016/01/valerian-laureline-star-wars/amp
And he’s made enough money off Star Wars - artist integrity doesn’t seem to be super important to him compared to toy sales lol
fluffmeister
Not really, just retelling the heroes journey with future space science slapped on top.
Grizy
Kind of a gross simplification
ThailandExpress
And being a horny nerd.
GunnarTheGunner
a long time ago space science*
FractalChainsaw
Space *magic.
thatiswhyyoushoulddoityourself
A lot of things are “just retelling the hero’s journey”. It’s still a good movie.
Oh yeah not saying it wasn't a good series, just that it wasn't insane creativity to think of it. Creative yes, but not groundbreaking.
It seems to be what people want. Avatar was just Pocahontas with alien cats and look at the money that pulled in.
AceJohnny
Your not giving it due credit: it was Pocahontas with alien cats IN 3D!
TheBigBadBonerBiter
I mean, an extended theatrical run to recoup IMAX installation costs and higher-than-average ticket prices for said IMAX helps too.
DurendaI
Dances With Wolves?
Lol yeah, the whole "white guy goes native" bit was a cliche even when Pocahontas did it. Apparently people like it though
Rayxzerox
sure, but to call that a genius stroke of creativity is just because it was successful is a pretty weak argument.
TheComputerScientist
I will say though, at the time Avatar was a visual spectacle. It's okay by today's standards, but when it was released it was cutting edge.
EverythingThatFallsToTheGroundIsMine
With the exception of the scenes with real props and acting. The rest just felt like a video game cutscenes so the 3D effect was meh
cedarcomb
Does that include the guys? Were Luke and Han rocking it commando style?
dashriproc1
Carrie's book, Surrender the Pink, refers to what a gentleman demanded of Carrie in her hotel room. Good times. Book link in reply. 1/
dashriproc1
https://www.amazon.com/Surrender-Pink-Carrie-Fisher/dp/1476702616 2/
atomicsockmonkey
The top half of your body does swell a bit at first when experiencing zero-g, but SW has artificial gravity.
kalohasunshine
Love and miss my Princess
Grocken
pcrawColorRunner
Then that stickler for accuracy George should have removed all the noisy explosions, too - bras can travel through space, but sound cannot
redditmcredditface
Have you seen Shampoo? George clearly did.
redditmcredditface
BTW, Goldie Hawn is a goddamned gem.
rshini
Again, for as obsessed as men are with tits, they don't know how they work
EalisLav
Today he'd got sued for it.
LordBaneoftheSith
If he made a habit of saying shit like that to people that weren't good friends, he fucking should be.
Feldspartacus
Man it must be rough watching the days of overt, sexist comments slip through your fingers like so much involuntarily celibate sand.
NiceGreenArrows
Nah. If he drugged and raped her he'd get in trouble 20 years later?
WenTheEternallySurprised
If time passes it's suddenly okay? I'm not sure I'm reading you right.
NiceGreenArrows
No, I'm saying that often people don't get in ACTUAL trouble until a while later. :/
LusciousLucius
No? There's huge protections for artistic choice. Even choices as pervy as this. If the character/setting says no bras, then no fkn bras.1/2
LusciousLucius
If he tried to tell her what she can or can't wear OUTSIDE of filming, on the other hand... Yeah. Sued. And rightfully so. 2/2
redditmcredditface
not sure why the downvotes, that is exactly what would happen... and rightfully so.
EalisLav
Exactly. However, many of 'progressive people' here are being offended by anything that requires thinking about intentions of comment>>
EalisLav
George Lucas' wasn't funny with this. Deceiving Carrie Fisher to remove bra by pseudoscience was plain dirty.
redditmcredditface
Or more than likely, the actress just wouldnt work on the film without massive amounts of money.
LusciousLucius
It wouldn't, though. And I'm saying that from experience. Director has full control over who they cast and what they ask of their actors 1/?
LusciousLucius
On stage. If they say no bras, no bras. If they say there's gonna be a nude scene, there's a nude scene. Otherwise the actor just doesn't2/?
LusciousLucius
Sign the contract and another one does instead. You can't sue a director for directing you while onstage as long as it's in the contract.3/4
LusciousLucius
No matter how skevy it is, for better or worse. 4/4
darkwing42101
In Rendezvous With Rama Arthur C. Clarke joked that a Captain suspected a bra-less female Astronaut had lead to at least one space accident.
darkwing42101
Clarke was an odd one *shrug*.
pandro
The last line made me furious.
darkwing42101
The Ramans do everything in threes line? If so the sequels with Gentry Lee were okay but not great.
pandro
I was expecting some kind of dramatic denouement. Not a shaggy dog punchline, lol.
darkwing42101
He did that often in his short stories, the line about a Star Mangled Spanner in one story comes to mind.
madsander
You’re the first person I know who’s read that book.
EntropyReign
it was made into a "choose your own adventure" style videogame for MS DOS. Arthur C clarke was even included, giving you advice when you die
idiotcube
I played that on Mac 20 years ago! Still have the disks, but nothing that can run them :C
darkwing42101
Almost 20 years ago Morgan Freeman wanted to make a movie of it, him staring as the Captain. I was so hyped for it, then nothing happened.
AntaNce
I have also, along with much of Clarke in general. Welcome.
Drenathar
There are dozens of us!
kevbot5000
I'm going to get to it, I swear! I'm just taking a like, 5 year break after slogging through Asimov and Herbert's Sci Fi.
darkwing42101
It's worth it, take your time and savour it when you get the time.
skincancerisfun
I've read it. It was good, though every time I see it referenced 'We all live in a yellow submarine' starts playing in my head.
kibbypie
I’ve read all 4
bripi
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!! I, too, have read the entire series. Would have loved a movie of at least the first.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
One of my favourites. Clarke was the master of little details that add levels of believability to a story
church1982
Would you be surprised to know there was a mediocre video game of it as well?
triffidhunter
I've read the series too
whatseventhepoint
For the record: https://www.salon.com/2013/07/02/female_astronauts_wear_bras_says_an_astronaut/
WhichIsIt
So, when on a treadmill and to keep the male astronauts from ogling.
PoppySiddal
That is an awesome bit of knowledge you dropped, thanks!
nosaucesbutapplesauces
We may not even need bras on earth.
whizizzi
I think bras should go the way of high heels... wear them if you want to but don’t feel any obligation
Kronzor
Was there once an obligation to wear high heels?
LordNergal
Yes, but back then men were wearing them.
celestedrake
Except bras are actually comfortable? Or can be if you have right ones.
whizizzi
Little boobs here. What’s the point? Bras just keep my nipples from poking out.
celestedrake
Guess it depends for people. And honestly I want to chop off my boobs rather than need them...
MyHouseOnMars
Totally. I hardly ever wear mine, unless I'm going to the gym or something (and obviously with covid that hasn't happened recently).
pitulina
You’re obviously young ?
leahatard
Or small breasted! I’m also part of the itty bitty titty committee.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
Heels at the gym is a power move
PosthumousExile
Idk what I'd do if I saw a woman in a full corset and stripper heels at the gym. Probably just stand in awe
ITellBadPuns
He's insane, but I think you gotta be a little insane to come up with something like Star Wars.
Housemaster
To come up with? No. To make it on the scale that it was? Absolutely!
WenTheEternallySurprised
All the truly great bits of Ep. 4 were really from the people around him. The movie was great IN SPITE of George.
Crazyeyedpsycho
They say star wars was saved in the edit. His first draft was apparently trash
WenTheEternallySurprised
There are reconstructions of his original, and holy moly, it is truly awful. Embarassingly awful.
StarSynthetik
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Raikupath
It's a western remake of a Japanese drama. It's far from original.
JustSomePersonThere
Sorry homie. He did not come up with Star Wars. It was a collaborative effort with some other greats, like Spielberg, plus writers. He’s
JustSomePersonThere
good at merchandising. He was good at monetizing the property. He’s a businessman, not an artist, or a creative person.
nicoleoftheeast
I think the word you're looking for is sexist
TheAccursedHamster
I mean.. his original pitch was even weirder. Most of Star Wars as we know it comes just as much from the minds of people who told him "no".
AntaNce
And grateful he listened to ~some~ of them.
SpanishBiscuit
We can have no creativity without a touch of insanity.
Crazyeyedpsycho
You my friend have just invited the ire of the Dune fanboys.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Why dune? What am I missing?
Crazyeyedpsycho
There are many who like to exaggerate the things that George almost certainly ripped from Dune. They not wrong but I think they exaggerate
Crazyeyedpsycho
Been Gesserit=Jedi, Arrakis=Dune, Dew collectors/windtraps=moisture farmers, Sandworm=Sarlacc, the voice=Jedi kind trick, (spoiler) next
Crazyeyedpsycho
You are my grandfather= I am your father, Fremen=sand people. I could go on
Hobbes777
I hate to be another person on the internet tearing someone’s legacy...but if you look it up you’ll find concerning evidence he lifted>>
Hobbes777
Most of Star Wars greatest moments from a comic among other things. I might not say this if he just left his work alone or offered the>>
Hobbes777
Originals but he kept touching stuff afterwords. Han shot first.
dougherd6
Han only shot. Greedy didn’t fire at all
Hobbes777
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2016/01/valerian-laureline-star-wars/amp
Hobbes777
And he’s made enough money off Star Wars - artist integrity doesn’t seem to be super important to him compared to toy sales lol
fluffmeister
Not really, just retelling the heroes journey with future space science slapped on top.
Grizy
Kind of a gross simplification
ThailandExpress
NiceGreenArrows
And being a horny nerd.
GunnarTheGunner
a long time ago space science*
FractalChainsaw
Space *magic.
thatiswhyyoushoulddoityourself
A lot of things are “just retelling the hero’s journey”. It’s still a good movie.
fluffmeister
Oh yeah not saying it wasn't a good series, just that it wasn't insane creativity to think of it. Creative yes, but not groundbreaking.
ITellBadPuns
It seems to be what people want. Avatar was just Pocahontas with alien cats and look at the money that pulled in.
AceJohnny
Your not giving it due credit: it was Pocahontas with alien cats IN 3D!
TheBigBadBonerBiter
I mean, an extended theatrical run to recoup IMAX installation costs and higher-than-average ticket prices for said IMAX helps too.
DurendaI
Dances With Wolves?
ITellBadPuns
Lol yeah, the whole "white guy goes native" bit was a cliche even when Pocahontas did it. Apparently people like it though
Rayxzerox
sure, but to call that a genius stroke of creativity is just because it was successful is a pretty weak argument.
TheComputerScientist
I will say though, at the time Avatar was a visual spectacle. It's okay by today's standards, but when it was released it was cutting edge.
EverythingThatFallsToTheGroundIsMine
With the exception of the scenes with real props and acting. The rest just felt like a video game cutscenes so the 3D effect was meh