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Sauce: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/liz-cheney-trump
Liz Cheney has been a hard right racist, white supremacist, conspiracy theorist her entire political life. The fact she doesn't accept the lie about the 2020 election doesn't change that, and she shouldn't be allowed to rehabilitate her image.
DrewBerg
thatsbadmmkay
Correct. Bush is also not anyone's friend I hate the amount of image repair he gets from this community. He was a war criminal.
cosinewave
But we can appreciate the fact she speaks the truth about the election.
ClumsyBagOfSaltWater
Can you provide a source for 'racist' and 'white supremacist'. She is far right and anti-gay, but struggling to find source on racist.
amp99
"Destroying our Western way of life" dog whistle about Native Americans: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/our-western-way-of-life
amp99
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/liz-cheney-rashida-tlaib-ilhan-omar
CheesecakePi
Friend? No. Best of poor choices? Probably. It may be an unspeakably low bar, but the alternatives are NOT going to be better. We don't /1
CheesecakePi
get bonus points for idealism. A lot of the time, we just have to work towards the best we can manage with what we've got. 2/2
Chimichanga007
Lol and that's why the GQP will gain power. Chamberlain.
PostalHeathen
I can respect someone for drawing a line and sticking to it in the face of opposition, even if I think they did it way too late.
PostalHeathen
That doesn't make her decent or someone I'd otherwise support, but I can still respect the effort all the same.
thatsbadmmkay
Drawing a line deep into the terrible zone merits no respect. Don't be silly.
slinkhi
I don't know anything about her. But I disagree with the notion that people aren't allowed to redeem themselves.
amp99
I think people can redeem themselves for their own actions, but politicians shouldn't have their previous actions/views discounted... 1/2
amp99
simply because they did the right thing once. They should answer for all their past positions too. 2/2
UrielDArcAngel
Being on the right side of a single issue does not redeem someone for a lifetime of wrongdoing...Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
slinkhi
Ok, but my point wasn't to accept a broken clock, it was that we shouldn't disallow it to be fixed.
UrielDArcAngel
That a fair stance but looking at her past, the amount of work to "fix" that clock is basically untenable...Time to ttrash it for a new one.
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slinkhi
OP said "she shouldn't be allowed to rehabilitate her image." I was making a general statement about this.
thatsbadmmkay
Does not apply here.
slinkhi
I think it does. It may not fully redeem her. She may have a long road ahead of her. But she didn't get where she's at in one step, nor is
slinkhi
she going to get back in one step. I'm not saying this one action outweighs all past stuff. But to say it doesn't count at all is not good.
thatsbadmmkay
What are you even going on about. She hasn't changed on any terrible policies.
middleburgh
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...
amp99
can't tell if you're saying that without having read the very first part of the article, or if you're doing it as a reference to the article
middleburgh
https://www.rollcall.com/2021/05/12/cheney-vows-to-do-everything-i-can-to-keep-trump-from-oval-office/
amp99
Yes, but did you read the article linked in the original post? The very beginning of it references the proverb specifically.
middleburgh
amp99
Could I get Yalta answer a simple question?
chesterthegreat
It's super annoying when people reminisce about Bush II, who got us into unwinnable wars that cost trillions, and destroyed the economy.
chesterthegreat
Just wait, in 2040 after the GOP sells all Americans into indentured servitude to Amazon or Tesla, people are gonna be rehabilitating Trump.
cosinewave
Also allowed No Child Left Behind to ravage public education. Despite the name, it did nothing to help educate kids.
chesterthegreat
Yeah that too. Absolutely ruinous.
cosinewave
There was no hope of any public school making AYP over time. They would have all been privatized under that horrible plan.
chesterthegreat
Yeah the push for charter schools was totally disastrous and basically wealth transfer out of communities.
cosinewave
I would not be surprised to find that Besty DeVos was involved somehow.
Chimichanga007
Don't forget TORTURE
chesterthegreat
Oh yeah the war crimes.