Louis Slotin and the " Demon Core "

Sep 19, 2021 12:41 PM

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Making Nuclear Bombs at Los Alamos in the 1940's was top secret, highly dangerous and safety procedures were almost unknown. One plutonium–gallium alloy bomb core, known as the "Demon Core", was responsible for the deaths of at least two scientists and probably many more.

21 August 1945, Harry Daghlian accidently dropped a tungsten carbide brick on the core releasing a large dose of neutron radiation, he died 24 days later.

21 May 1946, Louis Slotin was doing an experiment where the two halves of the core are brought close together to start a very weak short lived chain reaction that can provide valuable data. Unfortunately the screwdriver he used to keep them apart slipped and the halves slammed together causing a "prompt critical" reaction and a visible burst of hard radiation. He immediately grabbed it and threw it on the floor but everyone in the surrounding area, including five scientists and the guard outside, were heavily irradiated.
The guard and three of scientists were released form hospital a few days later and the others were in hospital for several weeks.
Louis Slotin lasted 9 agonizing days with severe radiation burns before dying.

The core that had been intended for a third nuclear strike on Japan was never used and later melted down.

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Closest thing in to a truly cursed artifact of the modern era, a haunted sword? Nah, how about mouth that kills people if it closes.

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Rip

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Demon core: when scientific curiosity meets extreme stupidity, and nuclear physics decides to play deadly peek-a-boo with unsuspecting researchers.

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Best presentation of this story by far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ayVMf6Xmc

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They did not know ... so yeah, fucked around and found out. RIP

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The early era of nuke was scary as hell .See all the shit Rocky flats did and the many other fuel plant in terms of wast and worker health

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They gonna be ok?

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They knew it was dangerous, but were also in a bit of a race to be first.

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The first? Slotin died in 1946! The bombs had been dropped and Japan had already surrendered!

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I know a slug sphere when I see it. That’s where the demon core got it’s power.

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And that’s also how they discovered Nuclear clean energy

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nuclear reactors came 4 years earlier, and they're *ridiculously* clean if you look at the GWh produced vs the damage done.

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He's buried in my home city of Winnipeg Canada. I'm told he's buried in a lead coffin because his body was so irradiated.

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Oh yeah, build the radioactive device right at junk level. Fuck you and your descendants lol.

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Theres an SCP based off of this

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FYI making a demon core out of a black hole is how you make a literal doomsday device

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Should have used a philips instead of a flathead.

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I like the Stargate SG-1 episode based on this, too: 5x21, Meridian, the first episode to show Kelowna and Jonas Quinn.

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Kyle hill has a fantastic series call half-life histories that includes the demon core. I would recommend those videos to anyone.

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Holy shit I knew this guy frOm my hometown life

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This happened in Idaho in the 1960s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1

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That is one of the more intersting non weapons ops ..Esp the question on was it murder etc

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Holy fucking shit!

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That guy was an idiot. He was repeatedly warned not to use a screwdriver. They had proper wedges for that experiment, but "nah it's fine"

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Yup but it’s a good showcase of how dangerous radioactive objects can be. Even scientists early on were careless with it.

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True they where, but this guy new better. He just committed suicide with extra steps. For a look in to danger and the oldtimers additude:

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The accidents actually make the core more powerful. Each time it becomes more radioactive, since the experiments involved enrich it.

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So when they say "enriched" is it a mix of Pu239 and U238? If criticality experiments turn more U238 into Pu239, then does it also...

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reduce the amount of Pu239 in the core?

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I’m not sure tbh, but I believe enriching Pu creates less stable isotopes of Pu, and enriching uranium makes isotopes like U-238 and U-239

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Uranium ore consists of U238 and just 0.7% U235. Enriched uranium is just isolating the U235 to higher concentration. Whereas Pu239...

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(nuclear bomb plutonium) is created by irradiating U238 with neutrons in a breeder reactor, then chemically removing it from the sample.

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Oh man, there are much worse stories than Slotin’s. You should read some of the IAEA reports on industrial accidents involving radiation ??

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Oh yeah that is a rabbit hole to fall into for sure ... Esp the ones with the lost sources that people though was magic cause they glowed

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Oh yeah. The face paint.

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Read "atomic Accidents" by Mahaffey. Holy shit...

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No hold at my library for the audiobook. I'll start it tomorrow, thanks for the recommendation!

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It's a little dry in the beginning but once you get to the early cold war buckle the fuck up

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I support switching from fossils fuels to nuclear where it makes sense. I'm usually reminded of this though:

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What is this text? What is it called? Where can I learn more? I really like the way it's written.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-time_nuclear_waste_warning_messages text developed for far future warnings. Interesting challenge to do

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I know people always focus on disasters, and where to store nuclear waste. But interestingly enough, people don't draw comparisons at all.

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In terms of GWh produced vs environmental damage, nuclear is ridiculously clean. And in terms of waste storage, the argument is that the...

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waste is dangerous for "thousands to millions of years". But compare that to some types of industrial waste;

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beryllium is the most biotoxic element on the planet, and it's toxic *FOREVER*. Where do we dispose of beryllium?

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The rainforest, probably.

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Context: People trying to figure out how to warn other (future) civilizations of radioactive waste. The oppressive architecture is cool too

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We ignored every warning from every ancient civilization and happily dug their sacred ground. I expect nothing different from the future.

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Richard Feynman became depressed after his work there. It seemed everything was pointless with nuclear destruction inevitably coming soon.

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He later became a famous critic of rubber rings.

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If you've never read "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman," I highly recommend it.

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I'd say the creation of those weapons did more for peace than anything, no one dares attack each other openly anymore out of fear of MAD.

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Formalized automated response systems were only put in place much, much later than Hiroshima and political thinking about war adapted at /

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about the same pace. For a long time, the thinking was that nuclear war might be winnable for whoever struck hard and first.

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Dramatized. https://youtu.be/AQ0P7R9CfCY

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ty

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Such a good movie. Lots of star power in it. It even has Dr. Cox from Scrubs as the base doctor.

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This series is also a dramatization! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZIjbX1gj88

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I've never seen this. In putting that on the list.

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You will not be disappointed, its a really good movie.

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Going to watch this week

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Same here

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Brutal scene

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Slotin was warned repeatedly that he was being stupid and dangerous but ignored his bosses. They didnt have their dosimetry badges on.

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I'm surprised LANL hasn't leveled Los Alamos yet. The amount of stupid dangerous crap that has happened there is crazy

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Have they even gotten their permits or licenses or whatever back yet? Last I heard they were on some sort of restriction for shit safety.

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Died of his own arrogance. What an asshole. Fermi should have knocked him out for his own safety.

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Yeah, accounts of this "accident" reference his repeated carelessness and disregard for standard safety precautions...

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He fucked around and found out

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But he wrote it down so he stienzed!1!

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I think they also called this “tickling the dragons tail”.

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I've heard that too.

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I recommend looking up Kyle Hill's "Half-Life Histories" on YouTube for more info on this & similar events https://youtu.be/aFlromB6SnU

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Kyle Hill does a great job researching and presenting.

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glad someone posted it, every video in that series is amazing

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Such a good and eye opening series. The human factor is the most dangerous of any endeavour.

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This should be the top comment. His telling of the story of this core is absolutely fascinating.

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1After the screw driver slipped everyone started to run put of the room. Slotin made everyone stay where they were and mark the spot on...

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2 the floor in chalk to better record the dose they received in relation to the core. Scary shit man. Fuck you I quit.

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To be fair the damage was already done after he tossed the core.

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Early chemists essentially bathed in benzene and toluene while handling it, leading to many premature cancer deaths. And remember Mrs. Curie

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Worked on steamships in the 80's and we would dump buckets of Hydrazine into the feed tank with boots and a boiler suit as our only PPE

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Is this Curie any relation to the NPC Companion Curie in Fallout 4?

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Please Google Marie Curie. Yes Curie in Fallout 4 is named after her.

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Jesus Christ...

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Hey man, I was just curie-ous. Sorry for not getting the memo. Geez.

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Didn't get the memo about one of the greatest scientists to have ever lived... ???

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Im reading about her now, it's very intriguing. But I looked at your other comments, and now i don't feel bad, anymore. Thanks, Sweety!

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Way to really dig into that pun under pressure, +1 for you friend

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Marie Sklodowska Curie*

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Thank you. While there was probably no ill intention, calling her "Mrs" Curie may be seen as undermining her importance to science.

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I'll remember her and the Alamo fondly

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You can forget the Alamo, tho.

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But, they always tell me to remember it

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Meh

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That or remember it was actually about Texans fighting Mexicans so they could own people. Because Texas was & continues to be awful.

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Especially after they moved it

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Early? We were bathing in benzene in the 80s still and still use toluene freely.

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Apparently we still bathe in benzene, recently found in most sun tan lotions, from another ingredients breakdown

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As someone in the environment consulting world, this makes my skin crawl. Those are two chemicals we look for often. They're very bad

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I see it mostly in oil refinery labs. And it's mostly down a sink to a collection sump. So not as bad as I made it sound

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I mean, atleast it smells nice, unlike methanol

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Come on. Methanol smells better than toluene.

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Hard disagree.

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Your Taste in solvents disgusts me

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What're your thoughts on water?

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Sound ON: (Perhaps one of the most chilling pieces of video ever filmed- Oppenheimer post-test)

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Also Oppenheimer was in his mid thirties

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I can hear this without unmuting. Listened to the audio of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm5fCxXnK7Y probably 2 dozen times at least.

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OK. Watched the whole doc- Wow! So much to say about it; but what struck me most is the haunted looks in the faces of the scientists. Thanks

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Genuinely glad you enjoyed it! :)

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"There is a weight that few men in history have had to bear". Watched the 1st 2 minutes- Will return for the rest when time allows. Thanks!

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Glad I could aim you towards a great doc. I enjoy it from start to end. I haven't fact checked it but my gut says its mostly true. I hope.

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