I found the best way to deal with those kind of jokes is to innocently ask them to explain it. Force them to present their idea without humor and they quickly shut up and walk away.
A proper joke can feature racism to mock it. Sometimes it sets up like racist/stereotypical story but subverts expectations with wholesome punchline. The most important part is that everyone ends up laughing at the racism and not the victims of it.
I like humor where the entertainer, the audience, and the subject of the joke can hear and laugh about it together. Even if it uses stereotypes, it should be presented in a way that its absurdity is apparent to almost anyone that hears it.
Part of why Blazing Saddles worked was because it was making fun *of* racists. The way a lot of people talk about it, it was just a big ball of raunchy racist humor but that's misunderstanding what made it funny and not hateful.
It's like this whole idea that its OK for comedians to be terrible to others because its 'comedy' like okay is there any rational argument that because something is funny its now objectively not terrible? How is this not just institutionalized bullying?
Oh god this is a mood, as someone who's done a lot of nursing home work. I always get the racist patients cus a lot of CNAs here are black and they always wanna get buddy buddy with me using the word colored unironically and it's like man, I'd rather you just called me a slur.
Russel Peters has talked about seeing the difference between where in the joke people laugh; there’s a difference between laughing in good fun and laughing at something that reinforces your racist feelings.
there's typically a crucial difference between jokes about a minority that minority enjoys and jokes about that minority they don't: who they're making fun of, and whether it comes from a place of ignorance or hatred. Or for normal people, you know how neurodivergent nerds will make fun of themselves but typically hate Big Bang Theory because it actually has no clue what it's talking about? It's like that, but if you ran into Big Bang Theory all the time.
I don't know where you got that quote from, but Hinchcliff proved it right. The guy insults another part of our country because what, they come "here" to "our country?" (It's the same country.) Because they suffered a natural disaster? And their presidential choice was okay with them dying? That's a disconnect from humanity for sure.
Exactly. And why the fuck are they not allowed to vote ? Remind me the old shitty colonialiste laws of my country ( France ) . If you are a citizen of a country , you should be allowed to vote !
I didn't watch it either, but I don't know how you missed anything about it considering the front page and user sub are full of posts. As well as major news sources and other social media outlets.
Oh I heard something about that, I think it was a very poorly worded joke referring to the trash they can't get rid of in PR, but since it's so poorly worded its open to interpretation
"There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico."
diceroller521
I found the best way to deal with those kind of jokes is to innocently ask them to explain it. Force them to present their idea without humor and they quickly shut up and walk away.
DarkwingDuc
The paraphrase the great poet, Nelly: "I'm just kiddin... (Unless you gon' do it!)"
khora
Disagree. It's rarely served with humor.
cosonfused
I'm out of the loop. What happened?
GirdleTurtle
A proper joke can feature racism to mock it. Sometimes it sets up like racist/stereotypical story but subverts expectations with wholesome punchline. The most important part is that everyone ends up laughing at the racism and not the victims of it.
I like humor where the entertainer, the audience, and the subject of the joke can hear and laugh about it together. Even if it uses stereotypes, it should be presented in a way that its absurdity is apparent to almost anyone that hears it.
My 2¢.
huffnpuff72
It's a joke? Explain it to me.
FlyingButtPliers
Racism in humor isn't ALWAYS bad, but it has to be frosting not the cake. Blazing Saddles was amazing at making things funny without making fun of.
channelranger
Part of why Blazing Saddles worked was because it was making fun *of* racists. The way a lot of people talk about it, it was just a big ball of raunchy racist humor but that's misunderstanding what made it funny and not hateful.
buttcreambandit
Jokes about stereotypes and stuff can be funny. Masking racism as comedy never is
Midioto
Why does this have a “Certified Spooky” award? o.0
VagrantKoba
I always assumed that racist jokes were always jokes because nobody could be that dumb to accept it as truth.
TeDmund
It's like this whole idea that its OK for comedians to be terrible to others because its 'comedy' like okay is there any rational argument that because something is funny its now objectively not terrible? How is this not just institutionalized bullying?
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
It sucks being white. People assume it's ok not only to tell me, but think I'll enjoy racist jokes.
channelranger
Oh god this is a mood, as someone who's done a lot of nursing home work. I always get the racist patients cus a lot of CNAs here are black and they always wanna get buddy buddy with me using the word colored unironically and it's like man, I'd rather you just called me a slur.
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mithiwithi
Explaining a joke kills ANY joke. It's just that bigoted "jokes" deserve to be killed.
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MeowMachine12
Being used to racism doesn't make racism okay.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
Russel Peters has talked about seeing the difference between where in the joke people laugh; there’s a difference between laughing in good fun and laughing at something that reinforces your racist feelings.
channelranger
there's typically a crucial difference between jokes about a minority that minority enjoys and jokes about that minority they don't: who they're making fun of, and whether it comes from a place of ignorance or hatred. Or for normal people, you know how neurodivergent nerds will make fun of themselves but typically hate Big Bang Theory because it actually has no clue what it's talking about? It's like that, but if you ran into Big Bang Theory all the time.
woozle
it's just a joke bro /s
kaarbaakimgr
So many comedians try to die on that hill
mondeca
Unless you agree....? /s
westPAguy
inkhonclusive
I was thinking .. A mole or a beauty spot ? Also an Astronaut.
Cinammontoastcrunch
Wrong, you call them by name, or whatever they ask to be. I don't call my military friends "soldier"
DisgruntledFerret
I mean, military friends usually have no idea what each others' first names are, though.
Cinammontoastcrunch
Tbh I randomly picked military, most other jobs would have been a better example for the half joke
themikep
is this the guy that says "the only remedy for past discrimination is present discrimination"?
Direkt4
Yes. Be downvoted.
Subsound
If that was true, wouldn't they say it instead of a complete stranger?
Cpthornswoggler
“whiteness prevents white people from connecting to humanity”. That guy is a grifter, and a bit of a racist himself.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
Ah, I see you’ve read none of his books and made a claim.
richardstinks
I don't know where you got that quote from, but Hinchcliff proved it right. The guy insults another part of our country because what, they come "here" to "our country?" (It's the same country.) Because they suffered a natural disaster? And their presidential choice was okay with them dying? That's a disconnect from humanity for sure.
peveay
Exactly. And why the fuck are they not allowed to vote ? Remind me the old shitty colonialiste laws of my country ( France ) . If you are a citizen of a country , you should be allowed to vote !
SoftKleenex
I didn't watch the rally, have an example of what they said?
richardstinks
I didn't watch it either, but I don't know how you missed anything about it considering the front page and user sub are full of posts. As well as major news sources and other social media outlets.
ArisCarroll
paraphrasing: "there is a giant island of trash in the ocean.... i think its called puerto rico"
DancesWithHippos
It's pretty much all over the news, but basically a comic who opened the rally compared Puerto Rico to the Pacific Trash Gyre.
SoftKleenex
Oh I heard something about that, I think it was a very poorly worded joke referring to the trash they can't get rid of in PR, but since it's so poorly worded its open to interpretation
MeowMachine12
LitterBoxKing
"There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico."
There's not a lot there to "interpret".
DancesWithHippos
Uh, no. The interpretation is it's a racist joke.
VashTehStampede
Only racists claim it's open to interpretation.
worm61
You are exactly who the OP is talking about.
thedudeman519
It was not poorly worded or open to interpretation .