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Nov 14, 2017 7:39 AM
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HKStylePanFriedNoodles
What you guys don’t know is this type of monetization is completely normal in China. It’s a pay-to-win environment there.
BeachBrownie
After ruining Madden, Mass Effect, and now buying Respawn... I think EA is out to ruin the entire industry.
electronurd
You forgot sim city.
thedarksideoftheforce
I may have an idea about the power.
ejr9090
Any chance that’s an idea about the power Ball?
thedarksideoftheforce
3, 16, 29, 34, 41... if you win, throw me a few bones.
SgtRockTx
It's a game. Play it.
MooseJuicy
Seems like this while argument happened after the first one too, but people just keep going back
TheShittyReposterStrikesAgain
They didn't get this much publicity the first time. At least then it was about no story.
3rdEyeShut
Spawns were garbage too
bpetersen
I imagine the people who buy it don't play video games much (like the 1 guy who only plays FIFA, parents, kids) and are not too concerned
Spikelf
I thought it was a brag to play for days straight? 40 hours would be a lot for me but I'm also not a 12 yr old banging your mom.
Taternator
I by no means like EA, but only 40 hours? Not that long... I guess maybe Runescape has ruined me a bit though
Murlox
Yea its not a click amd walk away. Its grinding for credits to buy loot boxes that might have scrap to craft what you want.
Machiavoriel
So let me get this right... Spending months grinding for Prestige levels in CoD is fine, but 40 hours for a character = outrage?
ZeFapmeister
It's not really equivalent as prestige levels. It more like kill streaks. Imagine having to grind 30 hours just to unlock the uav drone 1/
ZeFapmeister
Then having to grind 30 more for the care package and this goes on for every killstreak. Or you could pay to unlock them quickly
ZeFapmeister
It's just a scummy practice and deserves the shit it gets
cinderbl0ckno
I think you have the option to just buy whatever you want, is why people are mad. I could be wrong
MisfitCMDR
Idk, he was kinda terrifying in Rogue One.
CatBlaster5000
The point of this event is to jerk off the person on your left, please don't ruin chain sir, we've discussed this.
BlumpkinDangle
Wait... so you mean it's just like how games used to be? You unlock content as you play? That does make me angry!
NicestguyonImgur
Not anymore, Dice fixed that shit.
Doctadeth
By reducing the amount of player credit you get each time you play....so the numbers still are roughly the same anyway.
djml9
No. They only reduced the campaign reward. It was meant to let you get the protagonist and her price was dropped so the reward was too.
mann0311
Yes but the outrageous price gouging for actually getting a hero is still astronomical.
djml9
I dont think its outrageous at all. Top tier takes like 10 hours, mod tier like 5, and low tier like 3-4. Thats not much at all.
mann0311
Price gouging as in the micro transactions are still the same price. The progression system is definitely better.
Misfil
40 hours? Grind? Never thought I'd say this but... Filthy casuals
Endetium
This is all just too ridiculous to me considering it's a very common complaint that games cater too much to casuals these days.
Endetium
Now they want their games as casual as possible, bunch of fucking morons.
Misfil
I wouldn't dare playing anything other than single player games with kids on my charge. The game is definitely not targeted for 40yolds.
mann0311
People are older now with kids and jobs. 40 hours isn't what it used to be specially for a feature that was previously free.
TheAccursedHamster
I'm not one to ask for regulation, but I really hope EA finally pushes this too far and brings down gambling regulations on their heads.
heylookitsmyusername
If DraftKings hasn't yet EA will never have this happen
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
Sounds great, won't happen
CatBlaster5000
Holy shit you're right. Microtransactions SHOULD have gambling regs applied.
auscaliber
The ESRB stated that lootboxes weren't gambling essentially because you are guaranteed to win something, which is pretty nonsense, but add 1
auscaliber
The fact the ESRB is owned by games publishers and you begin to see just how fkn shady the whole thing really is
thisisabadbadidea
The ESRB is definitely biased in this case, but I'd prefer ESRB regulation over govt.-style censorship rules (a la China, Australia, etc)
auscaliber
Just curious, what do you think we have in Australia? There was a painful era when they wouldn't give us an effective R18+ rating so just 1
auscaliber
I mean, don't you have government regulated ratings for movies..? Most places do. It's really no different for games here, now we have R. /3
auscaliber
banned things that would have been R18+ instead, but that seems to be over. That was the usual "games are toys for kids" attitude.
PokeMasterWrath
Dude, he is absolutely underwhelming. Mary Sue Rey on the other hand, completely OP.
siggg
Funny enough all twitch streamers I saw call Rey an underpowered useless piece of shit, and Vader incredibly OP, Haven't tried myself yet
PokeMasterWrath
There's a card for her that makes her mind trick last longer if you use Insight. Mind Trick basically screws whoever gets caught in it.
TheSlayerWithin
History repeats itself. Remember the first battlefront? Don't complain.
Exitus04
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/62582702/psst-nobody-cares.jpg
Pyretta
Back in my day we WALKED 15 miles through a desert for a chance at a good drop! None of these flying mounts dagnabbit and fancy boxes...
Isaypoopythingsbecausemostofyouannoyme
Benadryl cucumberstash
CatBlaster5000
I've had some people arguing with me that it can be done in 10 with poor play. Can someone source me for future arguments?
DangerTrain
Lootboxes and DLC are by no means new, but companies have been pushing for years. It's an abusive relationship with customers.
DangerTrain
"maybe they'll change!" idiots say, buying day 1 DLC and progressively shorter games for full price.
Brocktooon
UnitXc
Just be glad that people ARE realising it.
iamspartan1262
It's too bad ignorant parents will still buy this game for their kids
SexualViolence
How else are people going to hear about their mothers easy virtue
RepostFromLastWeek
Lol, 40 hour 'grind', fucking scrubs.
mobilizerttndgaming6
The "grind" would not be an issue if the game was not 80$. If i pay that much give me 2-4 hours per unlock.
RupertR
Sorry that some of us work full time and have more than just 1 hobby/ priority
beezzarro
Why can't we just have reskins of BF3? That game left nothing for me, personally to be desired. Progression was packed with equipment
Darylmcmexican
Wait, is he unlockable later in the game or just honestly needs money to unlock? If it's the former I guess it's not that bad...?
Saric92
You can either spend the 40+ hours on unlocking them or straight pay for them, thus getting ahead in matches with people who dont have it.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
You can unlock him by grinding for days or just pay cash.
DisgruntledPengu
I got him after an 3 hours or so I honestly don’t know where 40 has come from
daft667
Don't forget your character progression is tied to random loot box drops that you can either grind for or buy outright
MarcUK
You get rewarded crystals at the end of battles, getting 60k would have taken about 40 hours, or $12 to buy enough.
Vydrach
To unlock all the characters would take over 4000 hours.
gloupin
Looking at time spent on skyrim... Would have unlocked them twice...
OnePunchGonz
No they have moved reduced the time to 10 - 15 hours now but also slashed the amount of credits you get after a match. Fuck EA
MarcUK
Somebody worked it out as 8 hour per day every day for 1 year 7 months to get enough to unlock them all.
MileHighLivin
Between this "fact" and someone else yesterday spreading the idea you can't play online without extra characters, you guys need to cite 1/
Trisar
As I understand it, if you attempt to play but all of your unlocked characters get picked by others, you can't play. True/False?
MileHighLivin
2/ your sources. This whole thing is awful enough without people blowing parts of it out of proportion. 2 characters take 40 hours to grind-
MileHighLivin
3/ others take less. Yes it's a horrible system, but how does anyone get "4000 hours" from that?
Trantarius
I don't think that's a bad thing. That way, nobody will have all of the characters, and they will be more valuable. I don't understand how..
Trantarius
...people expect to have everything in the game right from the start, or even access to everything right from the start. I can't think of ..
Trantarius
...an mmo that doesn't take 40 hours to get end game items. Has ever body really been paying for every damn microtransaction so that they...
fluffOpAnimal
I get what you’re saying, and I do believe there should be an unlock requirement, but not in the way they have now, something skill based. 1
Trantarius
...don't even have to play the game anymore?
RandomMagus
There's 100 characters? People have been saying 40 per hero
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFER
That's a little overboard, but I reckon it's so somewhat acceptable; I think the "4000 hours" thing is taken out of context.
CoachFeratu
the 4000 hours estimate is for unlocking/leveling up everything in the game.
Vydrach
'Tis what I've heard, I know it's what TotalBiscuit said. I could be wrong, however.
Darylmcmexican
If that's the case then EA deserves the hate but they can't be that dumb, can they?
SirDerpingtonIV
Oh, honey.
Killrapture
https://youtu.be/HJdarN8u2BE here's a good video detailing this crap
Darylmcmexican
Thanks. That is a douche move. People were given an illusion that they can achieve it all through dedication when it's honestly impossible.
Killrapture
It's not impossible though. Seems like really near sighted design. Or dice had to push mjctrotransactioms by EA.
demonic
I would rather stick my hand up a cows ass then give EA my money.
WizardProphet
Are you sure thats the right order of things? The Cows ass DLC is $20.
AgamemnonsMemes
Let me explain.. First, the internet was created.....
daft667
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move
KhaoticDreamer
As previously stated.. "You underestimate the power of the dark side."
FrodoShrugged
Well, I pre-bought the $80 version. If that doesn't get me everything in the game EA loses a customer for life. Period. Worth it , EA?
djml9
You get everything in the game, you just have to unlock it.
siggg
You have to play to unlock certain gear just like literally any other shooter (cod + battlefield) there's just an option to pay to skip that
Zerreth
Yes, because you still gave them $80, and based on your comment, you'll probably cough up more.
FrodoShrugged
Nah, just told my wife - cancelling pre-order at gamestop and getting my son a switch game and one for 3DS (X-mas) - Fuck you, EA. Done.
TotalMarkOut
What's wrong with "grinding it out"? Isn't that the point of games replay value? Nintendo was hard on purpose for people to replay until won
thatrandomimgurian
Penalizes you for playing the objective and winning the game quickly.
thatrandomimgurian
Personally I think the issue is that the points you receive are based on time played as opposed to score. The point system actually 1)
siggg
They changed that. Check EA site patchnotes. Match rewards are based on kills and objective score now.
NicestguyonImgur
Not the same really. Imagine playing an online round for 250 points, then repeating it over and over to accumulate 60,000 points.
1Espontaneo
40h? those are rookie numbers. I play f2p in Dokkan Battle and KH Union X.
SethReborn
4000 hours or ~1/2 a year of continuous play to unlock everything. that is definitely not rookie numbers to fully complete a game.
Jameszombob
god bless it, i got a family ffs! XD
DadddyWarlord
So you pretty much have to play all 24 hours if you wanna hit the deadline?
SethReborn
wait, what deadline?
orangatuan
Oh no! A 40 hour grind. How am I ever going to play that much, its not like I have multiple steam games sitting near or over 1000 hours.
DadddyWarlord
I don't think you get what's going on if you think that's the only issue.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
Yeah and who care about $80 for the game, then paying an extra $30 for each unlock? I have millions in the bank!
thisguy79
You don't have to buy the $80 version and you don't have to pay for upgrades. You can buy the cheapest version and grind out your upgrades.
thisguy79
Yes, you can spend the money to buy an "advantage" aka an upgrade but welcome to real life. The same is true in the real world.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
The whole point of this EA scandal was that it takes too long to grind, essentially forcing casual gamers to pay extra for the unlockables.