Jun 22, 2022 11:47 AM
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Markuspsyches
If they have spend so much energy to deny all this it must be true! /s
betatestyourgirlfriend
Kyle should be in prison forever. I grew up believing that is why the prison system existed. I was wrong, just another self serving branch
Thelrishlnquistion
LaffertyDanie1
Buttery Males
littleswimming
...did someone assert that the country of Russia was a hoax?
MechKelly
If those Republicans could read they'd be very upset.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
Fuck off with reposting tweets on Imgur
BigDaddysMeatWagon
I really hate to say it, but Rittenhouse was stupid, reckless, and possibly a white supremacist, but it WAS self defense.
ArkoneAxon
Cute blend of truth and massive lies. Obama DID spy on Trump, Russiagate WAS a hoax. Trump DID lose in 2020. Biden did NOT cause inflation.
FatboyRich
Yeah, but what about Hillary’s emails, or that thing that Hunter Biden did that no one really knows ?
BootsDusty
Pheehelm
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-3/section-3/
theonlybronson
If majority republicans could read they'd be very upset at that tweet
expectnothingstillletdown
well, probably over half of that is true, which is much better than the average conservative tweet.
kylozodaclown
Register to vote and get them all out. Overwhelm these fuckers. We can do it if we show up.
dorenavant
Wish it was that easy. Exhibit C: Texas.
SecretCookies
I am but it's frustrating to live in a already liberal area. Nothing to change with my vote. I just have to watch everything crumble.
RedWingedBlackbirds
Please everyone vote - local, state, all elections - especially in the midterms. https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/
manhands
Done. Will keep doing. But I’m going to acknowledge that the Dem option needs to fucking improve too.
You’re absolutely correct.
iamrandomstranger
what about Epstein ?
Biggless9
Add: Trump didn't win the 2016 election.
No, Trump DID win in 2016, just like he lost in 2020. Claiming otherwise makes you no different than the "stop the steal" nincompoops.
dabrick31
Besides the Rittenhouse one being shown to have reasonable doubt about its accuracy, there should be a big asterisk behind the inflation one
AceOfShovels
Our bullshit judicial system in which a judge sang him a fucking song decided to protect an obvious murder tourist. Big surprise. We don't>
>need the law to guide our every moral whim. Mfer intentionally put himself in a situation where he could legally kill, full stop.
As flawed as our justice system is, one of the good things it does is require that charges such as murder be proven beyond a reasonable ~
~ doubt. Obviously it doesn’t always work that way, but in this case, it’s my belief that if you don’t believe there was reasonable doubt, ~
~ then you are ignoring facts about the case.
crossingdynasty
“B….but Biden fell off his bike! Obama’s tan suit! Hillary’s emails! Hunter’s magic laptop!”
PraiseThePook
Not most. Just a vocal mob of idiots.
dontrike
Honestly, if Obama did spy on Trump I can definitely see why, considering the people he was willing to sell America to.
mithiwithi
The United States intelligence agencies were spying on Russian agents, and oh my look who was on the other end of those calls!
robbieeeeee
CRT is just history. Women have sole ownership of their bodies. Guns kill people. Racism pervades the justice system.
Earth is round.
blaghart
Obama did spy on Trump. And biden is the reason inflation is high, because he (and the dems) would rather hide behind manchin than upset the
status quo. And Obama spied on Trump because Obama spied on EVERY US CITIZEN. He literally threatened to veto any attempt to curtail NSA
spying powers. Repeatedly, even. one such example: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-threatens-to-veto-intel-bill/
Siliconhobbit
Dont forget Epstein didnt kill himself.
Babomonkey
Yeah, he did. If there was a conspiracy it was in allowing him the means and opportunity to do so.
beoluves
THIS IS SARCASM
Animorphs
Pro tip, add an "/s" at any post that contains it. Satire is indistinguishable from people who actually think like that.
Ah, whatever, I'll be your strawman. Come at me bros, I love you
Wasn't sure I'd I could ads the /s after an image without ruining it
/s
flexremmington
Rittenhouse is not a murderer. His actions were contemptible, but the verdict was correct according to the law. 5/6 dead on though.
L4dead2
I agree
williamtowel
Only cause DA went for Murder 1, had DA tried to get a conviction it would have been Murder 2 or homicide. But he was a white boy so....
oddmog
Well, Trump was spied on as much as any US citizen is is more to the point. Specific targeting wasn't really a deal.
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hardytardigrade
Did you mean 2016?
palmo
He did not in any way shape or form win the election in 2020.
rosebudthesled
Are you being spied on if you open the door and call them with updates regularely?
Well, people really don't like to hear it but there's been whistleblowers outlining the spying on EVERYONE and it's got worse since then.
Ticmea
Edward Snowden unearthed just how much the USA is spying on *literally* everyone.
newsguycraigevans
Snowden was always working for the Russians. The whistleblower schtick was his cover story. And you bought it. Hook. Line. And sinker.
Even if that were true (which I doubt), it wouldn't make a difference. The documents he leaked speak for themselves.
My point is that Trump wasn't spied on. He was openly colluding and dispersing information to foreign agents.
And my point was that while he wasn't targeted specifically, it's extremely likely that he was spied on. Still hate that orange f*** though.
Taokan22
I'd agree with 4/6. Snowden went to exile to share our govt spies on everyone, so by default, Obama would have spied on Trump.
Also, the world had the opportunity to watch the Rittenhouse trial. It's on youtube. You can go watch it. He was not guilty.
DorkJedi
so is OJ.
kakivara
Being found not guilty and also being a murderer are not mutually-exclusive. Juries don't always get it right. Look at how many innocent
Bezaid
For instance, OJ walked free.
people wind up on death row.
ChaoticSuicide
So many wrong things listed. It's like someone didn't do their research or look into anything beyond surface level news article titles
TheLastBootyBender
Such as?
Rittenhouse alone is enough to cast serious doubt on this list. Pure self defense.
He is recorded expressing his desire to shoot people, but the biased judge didn't allow it in court, not guilty doesn't mean Innocent.
Did you even watch the trial?
The trial that the video wasn't allowed in? Where he fake cried then later went to bars with the Pride Boys with no sign of tears?
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Sure.... if you ignore the same evidence the court did about him planning to shoot protestors. But other than that sure man.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
If anyone thinks any of these are false, you have been duped.
Rittenhouse was a stupid, reckless, possibly racist kid but it was certainly self defense. I've seen no evidence to the contrary.
Arbitrarynamehere
To quibble, we were spying on Russia and trump and his circle just kept popping up in it so
quzar
Ey! Russia totally is a hoax. It's a collection of gangs in a trenchcoat pretending to be a nation-state.
He made a video saying he wanted to kill BLM. Then went and did it. That's murder.
Mcconnern
He never said "I want to kill BLM people". He responded to an active looting taking place. A spur of the moment response. Like saying ->
"if I had some time alone with X he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone anymore". Your not actually going to do it but it relais an emotion.
JusticePhrall
I'm not disputing your statement, I've just heard that claim so often but never a link to the video. Source, please?
Well, his lawyers wanted to play the video in court and the judge said no. Idk why they would want to play a fake video.
Jimthebutler
.
scissorxmextimbers
Source
DaMummy
Govt spies on everyone in the US and collects meta data. Which part of Russiagate was real? Murder is a legal term, it wasn't murder, he 1/?
Hereagain
Read the Muller(sp?) Report. There were a lot of Trump officials in contact with Russian agents. Though, I do agree with you about the /
Murder bit, Rittenhouse didn't "murder" anyone, but he did commit a shitton of crimes and lesser charges definitely would've stuck.
If you're not aware that the trump family is laundering Russian money, you haven't been paying attention.
So Obama collected metadata on Trump, therefore the first claim is true? No. Which part of Russia meddling in the election was real This:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections
sailordude81
Agreed on most except Rittenhouse. Manslaughter is more technically/legally accurate. He’s a piece of shit, but he didn’t commit “murder”.
Zeddicuszull
Maybe self defense for Rosenbaum but definitely murder for Huber. It was Huber acting in self defense to stop an active shooter.
Not a point I can argue in 140 characters. But it wasn’t “murder” by any legal definition. Prosecution muffed the case. Kid’s still a POS.
did kill people though.....ok, I guess that's it. 2/2
hamberglar
Rittenhouse is a shitty kid, but legally he's not a murderer. You can't tell people they need to accept the results of the election, and not
CraftyGiant
was OJ a murderer?
You can't tell me that an emotional 17 year old kid went to a riot with a gun, when he wasn't hired by anyone, a day after saying he would
Fire bullets into a crowd, was acting in self defense. Kid was looking for trouble. Then he goes on to show zero remorse for ending lives.
I'm not telling you that. The court is telling you that. I'm just pointing out that it's hypocritical of you not to accept that while
simultaneously condemning magats for not accepting the law as well.
He's no hero. He's a murderer who was acquitted. An acquittal does not mean innocence. Stop defending him, it's a gross look.
And yes, acquittal does mean innocence. This isn't scots law, there's no "we know you done it, but we can't execute you for it" verdict.
the verdict of the courts. In the eyes of the law, Biden is president and Rittenhouse acted in self-defense. To say otherwise is hypocrisy.
Syiss
Nobody is claiming hes legally a murderer you dumb fuck. Like so very many words, murder has both legal and colloquial meanings.
Also, just in the interest of "correctness", not there aren't two kinds of meanings. The literal definition of murder is:
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". Lawfulness is literally part of the definition of murder.
Why and how are those two things so radically different? It's okay for you to say that the court is wrong, but it's not for magats to say
that the electors are wrong? I'm not saying they're right, but the lack of self-awareness to your own hypocrisy on your part is glaring.
Do you honestly believe that? If so your critical thinking skills are poor.
I don't think I could be clearer that I think he's a bad kid. But my point is that you don't get to say "you can't ignore the law" to magats
but then turn around and do the same thing because the law didn't agree with your point of view and act like you're not being a hypocrite.
iExplainTheJoke
You cannot claim to support the rule of law while picking and choosing which verdicts you like, under the law he is not a murderer
AbstractArtemis
Slavery was lawful. Damn all those hypocrits who thought otherwise and fought to end it.
Lavvia
Laws and rulings get overturned all the time. What a weak argument.
KuldFyt
I take this to mean that Russian interference in US elections is not a hoax, not that the existence of Russia is not a hoax... Or did I 1/
/2 miss something absolutely wild in conspiracy land?
SunTzuWarmaster
I thought it was known at this point that Clinton made it up... https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-suss
CNN is hardly some right-wing conspiracy theory news source and they reported fabrication alongside NYT and WSJ.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/politics/hillary-clinton-robby-mook-fbi/index.html
And now I will be modded into oblivion. Negative karma only minutes after posting left-leaning news sources to answer an honest question.
Of course you will be. Imgur epitomizes the mindset of "Our guys do nothing wrong, but your guys are pure evil."
1- those sources don't say what you claim. 2- those sources are absolutely irrelevant to the question of whether "Russia doesn't exist" 1/
/2 has become a conspiracy theory while I wasn't paying attention.
"Russia was not a hoax" - "CNN reports that the campaign, and Clinton herself, fabricated collusion with Russia." 'spose it ain't theory.
Humpday0437
I agree with everything but Rittenhouse. The courts heard it and saw it all- there is no denying he used self defense.
BlueBarnstormer
US courts have never gotten anything wrong before. /s
JohnLemon
Judges yes, juries less. The evidence certainly changed my opinion on the case, so I get that. Then again, that's the justice system working
George Zimmerman walked because of a jury. Bundy took over a Fed building and walked because of a jury. My faith is gone.
swedeonamoose
One could argue he was the reason behind it all happening in the first place but yea, it was self defense.
This argument dips into “look what she was wearing, she was clearly asking for it” territory though
distractionfactory
Maybe, but going along with that comparison it would be more like a girl breaking into a prison for sexual predators, in her underwear.
AllMyOpinionSuck
Self defense or otherwise he did murder those people. And I watched the court case I do agree with the ruling, still murder though.
leopluridon
Learn the definition of the word before using it again.
He arrived with a gun, stating previously he intended to shoot people. The situation may have forced his hand but he was there with intent
Still not murder even if that were true. I'm curious, do you believe you'd have as much restraint as he did while your life was in as much
Danger as his was? He waited to someone put hands on his weapon and then after that, he only opened up as the second guy was like 5 feet
Ah yes, because as we all have learned recently, the judicial system knows what's best and the law = morality
He made a video saying he wanted to kill BLM. Then went and did it. That's murder. He lucked out with a friendly judge that also hates BLM
He's a white supremacist who broke laws to deliberately put himself in a position to kill in immediate self-defense, then brag about it.
TheAccursedHamster
Do you deny he actively created the situation in which he had to "act in self defense"?
Bullshit trial IMO. Kid shot the first person while not cornered and dude was unarmed. Getting off in court doesn't mean shit to me.
such a blatanly biased judge and trial....
ObeySparky
He is, in fact, a murderer. By the very definition of the term he is a murderer so there's that. He'll ALWAYS be a murderer.
Apparently you don't know what the word means.
InternetAnonymityplz
The definition of murder includes the part where it's illegal. He'll always be a killer, the court found him not a murderer.
CoarseAndSalty
The court doesn't have the authority to countermand the laws that they acknowledge he broke to kill that man, but wouldn't convict him of.
paintingagency
He armed himself and drove across state lines to participate in a riot IN THE HOPES OF PUTTING HIMSELF IN A POSITION TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
He was a murder tourist and he got away with it. And someone else will try it next time.
Ye, he even waited until someone got hands on his gun before firing.
1)Not his gun, because that would be illegal. 2)His hands were on the gun, he aimed, pulled the trigger and killed an unarmed man. 3) not in
any way related to the defense of self and laid out in the law.
Maybe I've had a stroke but could you clarify for me what it is you're saying?
Markuspsyches
If they have spend so much energy to deny all this it must be true! /s
betatestyourgirlfriend
Kyle should be in prison forever. I grew up believing that is why the prison system existed. I was wrong, just another self serving branch
Thelrishlnquistion
LaffertyDanie1
Buttery Males
littleswimming
...did someone assert that the country of Russia was a hoax?
MechKelly
If those Republicans could read they'd be very upset.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
Fuck off with reposting tweets on Imgur
BigDaddysMeatWagon
I really hate to say it, but Rittenhouse was stupid, reckless, and possibly a white supremacist, but it WAS self defense.
ArkoneAxon
Cute blend of truth and massive lies. Obama DID spy on Trump, Russiagate WAS a hoax. Trump DID lose in 2020. Biden did NOT cause inflation.
FatboyRich
Yeah, but what about Hillary’s emails, or that thing that Hunter Biden did that no one really knows ?
BootsDusty
Pheehelm
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-3/section-3/
theonlybronson
If majority republicans could read they'd be very upset at that tweet
expectnothingstillletdown
well, probably over half of that is true, which is much better than the average conservative tweet.
kylozodaclown
Register to vote and get them all out. Overwhelm these fuckers. We can do it if we show up.
dorenavant
Wish it was that easy. Exhibit C: Texas.
SecretCookies
I am but it's frustrating to live in a already liberal area. Nothing to change with my vote. I just have to watch everything crumble.
RedWingedBlackbirds
Please everyone vote - local, state, all elections - especially in the midterms. https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/
manhands
Done. Will keep doing. But I’m going to acknowledge that the Dem option needs to fucking improve too.
kylozodaclown
You’re absolutely correct.
iamrandomstranger
what about Epstein ?
Biggless9
Add: Trump didn't win the 2016 election.
ArkoneAxon
No, Trump DID win in 2016, just like he lost in 2020. Claiming otherwise makes you no different than the "stop the steal" nincompoops.
dabrick31
Besides the Rittenhouse one being shown to have reasonable doubt about its accuracy, there should be a big asterisk behind the inflation one
AceOfShovels
Our bullshit judicial system in which a judge sang him a fucking song decided to protect an obvious murder tourist. Big surprise. We don't>
AceOfShovels
>need the law to guide our every moral whim. Mfer intentionally put himself in a situation where he could legally kill, full stop.
dabrick31
As flawed as our justice system is, one of the good things it does is require that charges such as murder be proven beyond a reasonable ~
dabrick31
~ doubt. Obviously it doesn’t always work that way, but in this case, it’s my belief that if you don’t believe there was reasonable doubt, ~
dabrick31
~ then you are ignoring facts about the case.
crossingdynasty
“B….but Biden fell off his bike! Obama’s tan suit! Hillary’s emails! Hunter’s magic laptop!”
BootsDusty
PraiseThePook
Not most. Just a vocal mob of idiots.
RedWingedBlackbirds
Please everyone vote - local, state, all elections - especially in the midterms. https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/
dontrike
Honestly, if Obama did spy on Trump I can definitely see why, considering the people he was willing to sell America to.
mithiwithi
The United States intelligence agencies were spying on Russian agents, and oh my look who was on the other end of those calls!
robbieeeeee
CRT is just history. Women have sole ownership of their bodies. Guns kill people. Racism pervades the justice system.
robbieeeeee
Earth is round.
blaghart
Obama did spy on Trump. And biden is the reason inflation is high, because he (and the dems) would rather hide behind manchin than upset the
blaghart
status quo. And Obama spied on Trump because Obama spied on EVERY US CITIZEN. He literally threatened to veto any attempt to curtail NSA
blaghart
spying powers. Repeatedly, even. one such example: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-threatens-to-veto-intel-bill/
Siliconhobbit
Dont forget Epstein didnt kill himself.
Babomonkey
Yeah, he did. If there was a conspiracy it was in allowing him the means and opportunity to do so.
beoluves
beoluves
THIS IS SARCASM
Animorphs
Pro tip, add an "/s" at any post that contains it. Satire is indistinguishable from people who actually think like that.
beoluves
Ah, whatever, I'll be your strawman. Come at me bros, I love you
beoluves
Wasn't sure I'd I could ads the /s after an image without ruining it
Animorphs
flexremmington
Rittenhouse is not a murderer. His actions were contemptible, but the verdict was correct according to the law. 5/6 dead on though.
L4dead2
I agree
williamtowel
Only cause DA went for Murder 1, had DA tried to get a conviction it would have been Murder 2 or homicide. But he was a white boy so....
oddmog
Well, Trump was spied on as much as any US citizen is is more to the point. Specific targeting wasn't really a deal.
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[deleted]
hardytardigrade
Did you mean 2016?
palmo
He did not in any way shape or form win the election in 2020.
rosebudthesled
Are you being spied on if you open the door and call them with updates regularely?
oddmog
Well, people really don't like to hear it but there's been whistleblowers outlining the spying on EVERYONE and it's got worse since then.
Ticmea
Edward Snowden unearthed just how much the USA is spying on *literally* everyone.
newsguycraigevans
Snowden was always working for the Russians. The whistleblower schtick was his cover story. And you bought it. Hook. Line. And sinker.
Ticmea
Even if that were true (which I doubt), it wouldn't make a difference. The documents he leaked speak for themselves.
rosebudthesled
My point is that Trump wasn't spied on. He was openly colluding and dispersing information to foreign agents.
Ticmea
And my point was that while he wasn't targeted specifically, it's extremely likely that he was spied on. Still hate that orange f*** though.
Taokan22
I'd agree with 4/6. Snowden went to exile to share our govt spies on everyone, so by default, Obama would have spied on Trump.
Taokan22
Also, the world had the opportunity to watch the Rittenhouse trial. It's on youtube. You can go watch it. He was not guilty.
DorkJedi
so is OJ.
kakivara
Being found not guilty and also being a murderer are not mutually-exclusive. Juries don't always get it right. Look at how many innocent
Bezaid
For instance, OJ walked free.
kakivara
people wind up on death row.
ChaoticSuicide
So many wrong things listed. It's like someone didn't do their research or look into anything beyond surface level news article titles
TheLastBootyBender
Such as?
ChaoticSuicide
Rittenhouse alone is enough to cast serious doubt on this list. Pure self defense.
TheLastBootyBender
He is recorded expressing his desire to shoot people, but the biased judge didn't allow it in court, not guilty doesn't mean Innocent.
ChaoticSuicide
Did you even watch the trial?
TheLastBootyBender
The trial that the video wasn't allowed in? Where he fake cried then later went to bars with the Pride Boys with no sign of tears?
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Sure.... if you ignore the same evidence the court did about him planning to shoot protestors. But other than that sure man.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
If anyone thinks any of these are false, you have been duped.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Rittenhouse was a stupid, reckless, possibly racist kid but it was certainly self defense. I've seen no evidence to the contrary.
Arbitrarynamehere
To quibble, we were spying on Russia and trump and his circle just kept popping up in it so
quzar
Ey! Russia totally is a hoax. It's a collection of gangs in a trenchcoat pretending to be a nation-state.
newsguycraigevans
He made a video saying he wanted to kill BLM. Then went and did it. That's murder.
Mcconnern
He never said "I want to kill BLM people". He responded to an active looting taking place. A spur of the moment response. Like saying ->
Mcconnern
"if I had some time alone with X he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone anymore". Your not actually going to do it but it relais an emotion.
JusticePhrall
I'm not disputing your statement, I've just heard that claim so often but never a link to the video. Source, please?
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
Well, his lawyers wanted to play the video in court and the judge said no. Idk why they would want to play a fake video.
Jimthebutler
.
scissorxmextimbers
Source
DaMummy
Govt spies on everyone in the US and collects meta data. Which part of Russiagate was real? Murder is a legal term, it wasn't murder, he 1/?
Hereagain
Read the Muller(sp?) Report. There were a lot of Trump officials in contact with Russian agents. Though, I do agree with you about the /
Hereagain
Murder bit, Rittenhouse didn't "murder" anyone, but he did commit a shitton of crimes and lesser charges definitely would've stuck.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
If you're not aware that the trump family is laundering Russian money, you haven't been paying attention.
hardytardigrade
So Obama collected metadata on Trump, therefore the first claim is true? No. Which part of Russia meddling in the election was real This:
hardytardigrade
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections
sailordude81
Agreed on most except Rittenhouse. Manslaughter is more technically/legally accurate. He’s a piece of shit, but he didn’t commit “murder”.
Zeddicuszull
Maybe self defense for Rosenbaum but definitely murder for Huber. It was Huber acting in self defense to stop an active shooter.
sailordude81
Not a point I can argue in 140 characters. But it wasn’t “murder” by any legal definition. Prosecution muffed the case. Kid’s still a POS.
DaMummy
did kill people though.....ok, I guess that's it. 2/2
hamberglar
Rittenhouse is a shitty kid, but legally he's not a murderer. You can't tell people they need to accept the results of the election, and not
CraftyGiant
was OJ a murderer?
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
You can't tell me that an emotional 17 year old kid went to a riot with a gun, when he wasn't hired by anyone, a day after saying he would
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
Fire bullets into a crowd, was acting in self defense. Kid was looking for trouble. Then he goes on to show zero remorse for ending lives.
hamberglar
I'm not telling you that. The court is telling you that. I'm just pointing out that it's hypocritical of you not to accept that while
hamberglar
simultaneously condemning magats for not accepting the law as well.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
He's no hero. He's a murderer who was acquitted. An acquittal does not mean innocence. Stop defending him, it's a gross look.
hamberglar
And yes, acquittal does mean innocence. This isn't scots law, there's no "we know you done it, but we can't execute you for it" verdict.
hamberglar
the verdict of the courts. In the eyes of the law, Biden is president and Rittenhouse acted in self-defense. To say otherwise is hypocrisy.
Syiss
Nobody is claiming hes legally a murderer you dumb fuck. Like so very many words, murder has both legal and colloquial meanings.
hamberglar
Also, just in the interest of "correctness", not there aren't two kinds of meanings. The literal definition of murder is:
hamberglar
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". Lawfulness is literally part of the definition of murder.
hamberglar
Why and how are those two things so radically different? It's okay for you to say that the court is wrong, but it's not for magats to say
hamberglar
that the electors are wrong? I'm not saying they're right, but the lack of self-awareness to your own hypocrisy on your part is glaring.
newsguycraigevans
Do you honestly believe that? If so your critical thinking skills are poor.
hamberglar
I don't think I could be clearer that I think he's a bad kid. But my point is that you don't get to say "you can't ignore the law" to magats
hamberglar
but then turn around and do the same thing because the law didn't agree with your point of view and act like you're not being a hypocrite.
iExplainTheJoke
You cannot claim to support the rule of law while picking and choosing which verdicts you like, under the law he is not a murderer
AbstractArtemis
Slavery was lawful. Damn all those hypocrits who thought otherwise and fought to end it.
Lavvia
Laws and rulings get overturned all the time. What a weak argument.
KuldFyt
I take this to mean that Russian interference in US elections is not a hoax, not that the existence of Russia is not a hoax... Or did I 1/
KuldFyt
/2 miss something absolutely wild in conspiracy land?
SunTzuWarmaster
I thought it was known at this point that Clinton made it up... https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-suss
SunTzuWarmaster
CNN is hardly some right-wing conspiracy theory news source and they reported fabrication alongside NYT and WSJ.
SunTzuWarmaster
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/politics/hillary-clinton-robby-mook-fbi/index.html
SunTzuWarmaster
And now I will be modded into oblivion. Negative karma only minutes after posting left-leaning news sources to answer an honest question.
ArkoneAxon
Of course you will be. Imgur epitomizes the mindset of "Our guys do nothing wrong, but your guys are pure evil."
KuldFyt
1- those sources don't say what you claim. 2- those sources are absolutely irrelevant to the question of whether "Russia doesn't exist" 1/
KuldFyt
/2 has become a conspiracy theory while I wasn't paying attention.
SunTzuWarmaster
"Russia was not a hoax" - "CNN reports that the campaign, and Clinton herself, fabricated collusion with Russia." 'spose it ain't theory.
Humpday0437
I agree with everything but Rittenhouse. The courts heard it and saw it all- there is no denying he used self defense.
BlueBarnstormer
US courts have never gotten anything wrong before. /s
JohnLemon
Judges yes, juries less. The evidence certainly changed my opinion on the case, so I get that. Then again, that's the justice system working
BlueBarnstormer
George Zimmerman walked because of a jury. Bundy took over a Fed building and walked because of a jury. My faith is gone.
swedeonamoose
One could argue he was the reason behind it all happening in the first place but yea, it was self defense.
dabrick31
This argument dips into “look what she was wearing, she was clearly asking for it” territory though
distractionfactory
Maybe, but going along with that comparison it would be more like a girl breaking into a prison for sexual predators, in her underwear.
AllMyOpinionSuck
Self defense or otherwise he did murder those people. And I watched the court case I do agree with the ruling, still murder though.
leopluridon
Learn the definition of the word before using it again.
AllMyOpinionSuck
He arrived with a gun, stating previously he intended to shoot people. The situation may have forced his hand but he was there with intent
leopluridon
Still not murder even if that were true. I'm curious, do you believe you'd have as much restraint as he did while your life was in as much
leopluridon
Danger as his was? He waited to someone put hands on his weapon and then after that, he only opened up as the second guy was like 5 feet
AceOfShovels
Ah yes, because as we all have learned recently, the judicial system knows what's best and the law = morality
newsguycraigevans
He made a video saying he wanted to kill BLM. Then went and did it. That's murder. He lucked out with a friendly judge that also hates BLM
hardytardigrade
He's a white supremacist who broke laws to deliberately put himself in a position to kill in immediate self-defense, then brag about it.
TheAccursedHamster
Do you deny he actively created the situation in which he had to "act in self defense"?
CraftyGiant
Bullshit trial IMO. Kid shot the first person while not cornered and dude was unarmed. Getting off in court doesn't mean shit to me.
CraftyGiant
such a blatanly biased judge and trial....
ObeySparky
He is, in fact, a murderer. By the very definition of the term he is a murderer so there's that. He'll ALWAYS be a murderer.
leopluridon
Apparently you don't know what the word means.
InternetAnonymityplz
The definition of murder includes the part where it's illegal. He'll always be a killer, the court found him not a murderer.
CoarseAndSalty
The court doesn't have the authority to countermand the laws that they acknowledge he broke to kill that man, but wouldn't convict him of.
paintingagency
He armed himself and drove across state lines to participate in a riot IN THE HOPES OF PUTTING HIMSELF IN A POSITION TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
paintingagency
He was a murder tourist and he got away with it. And someone else will try it next time.
leopluridon
Ye, he even waited until someone got hands on his gun before firing.
CoarseAndSalty
1)Not his gun, because that would be illegal. 2)His hands were on the gun, he aimed, pulled the trigger and killed an unarmed man. 3) not in
CoarseAndSalty
any way related to the defense of self and laid out in the law.
leopluridon
Maybe I've had a stroke but could you clarify for me what it is you're saying?