The NA launch of the N64 console (Sep 1996) is further away from us in time now (28 years, 6 months ago) than its launch was from the Apollo 11 Moon Landing (July 1969) (27 years, 2 months before N64 NA launch).
I went to a "Video Game Musem" display at the science museum near me and they had Nintendo and Super Nintendo and various arcades on display. I left saying to myself, "I'm not THAT old, time just moves faster in the video game world" lol
I have a 1996 magazine celebrating 30 years of Star Trek. It felt like ancient history at that point and the exiting new show was Voyager. Well, next year that magazine will also be 30 years old.
As a millennial I do find the year gaps a bit jarring. But also: is it just me or do the culture gaps between the periods not feel that significant?
2008 to today definitely has a lot of changes, but at least to my assessment that 17 year gap feels less significant than even the 10 year gap from 1998 to 2008. Again the changes from 2008 to today are real, but I just feel like the cultural shifts aren't as major between decades as they were in the 70s through to 2000.
When I think about the 70s/80s/90s, it feels like there were discreet jumps. You had a thing, then you got a new one and put the old one aside and it becomes a relic. But around 2005, it feels like we changed to a state of constant improvement. You have a ps3, which came out in 2007, but was last updated this month
I think you're right. Going from the 80s (home computers and video game consoles were new) to the 90s (Internet/world wide web kicks off) to the 00s (broadband, cell phones become ubiquitous) was a huge change, compared to technology changes in many earlier decades, especially with information sharing. 1998 to 2008 went from "cell phones are luxury items/computers are bulky" to "everyone has an Internet-connected computer in their pocket".
There has been enough gap that some refer to games we had in the 90s and early 2000s, such as Half Life, as "Boomer Shooters" cuz Boomer equals anything perceived as old. Despite an actual Boomer shooter would be the Vietnam War
Probably, the only thing I disagree with is the cultural shifts, they got even faster in my opinion, for example us old gen Z have very little in common with young gen z'ers, much less with Gen Alpha and probably even less so in the near future since 2024 is the start of gen beta.
well 2008 had the financial crisis and the first iphone released in 2007. that time right there really marked a shift but yea it doesn't really feel that significant right now. we are in a weird spot right now of stagnation with little innovation due to people fucking things up more.
Nah, sorry. The years you experience during your youth always feel more significant and impactful and after that you stop paying attention to the changes and somehow think "not much happened".
I feel the same way. But that might just be our age and experience. The older I get the every change feels less significant because you're kind off hardened I guess. Also, As I get older I no longer follow up on all the trends but just live my life like I learned to do it back when. Something to consider, the first smartphone (iPhone 1) came out in 2007. The current omnipresence of smartphones has definitely changed our lives forever.
Right. The Xbox 360 will be 20 years old this November.
When the PS2 launched, people already considered the SNES to be retro, but gap between the SNES & PS2 system releases was 9 years & 3 months. We are roughly twice as far from the PS3's launch as the PS2 was from the SNES.
Considering the popularity of PS1 and sometimes PS2 aesthetics atm, I'd say it's 3. The world isn't ready for 2007 to be retro yet. It's still just old.
It's been two for decades, NES was Retro during N64, SNES during GC. The 360 came out in 2005, WII and PS3 in 2006. They are two gens ago so fall under retro.. people already talk about the Wii as if it's retro.. and that terrifies me.
That's not necessarily true; the only people not ready to acknowledge 2007 as "retro" are Millennials who are upset by the idea that they're getting old & no longer the primary demographic for PG-13 content. Gen Z and Gen Alpha both consider games & movies released back then to be retro, and most games from back then absolutely have aged fairly poorly compared in both graphics and gameplay standards.
Ok, well, just wanting to hear audio on that let me down an emulator rabbit hole. Now I just blew like 20 minutes playing old Atari games at work. Good thing break starts today.
What is it that while we had a massive technologic advancement, I don't really feel like the cultural / fashion difference is all that big. There were some differences like ripped clothing and stuff, but somehow I feel like 2003 is kinda similar to now besides the big tech difference. Is that just me?
There were still rock bands. Let me explain, so at some point a few years ago I was looking at what kinds of bands some rock festivals were having these days. They're not rock festivals anymore. Most artists they have now are pop and rap, maybe possibly a metal band or 2. BaCk In My DaY rock festivals had rock bands, and maybe a couple metal bands. I don't recognise the festivals I went to back in the 2000's. Well, I still go to one, but it's a metal festival, and it's changed a bit too.
drakkaris12718
When your kids start marrying and having kids, thats a sign.
TheZommie
"hey, when I am looking for sources to cite, is it okay if I use one that is kinda old? It is from the 1900s"
MrFancyPanzer
Don't hurt me like this.
captincorpse
smashatheOG
This is assault :(
MorrowDisca
Perhaps we no longer feel the passage of time so much because we're stagnating as a culture.
rhitard
Missed opportunity not ending with "wasted"
MrRandom314159
Infinity War is almost 7 years old at this point.
Vergenbuurg
Apollo 13, the movie, was released 25 years after the mission it depicted. That movie was released almost 30 years ago.
sundaymondayhippyday
lordfwahfnah
Back to the future now completely plays in the past
sundaymondayhippyday
You look here, you liar …
They will fix that clock tower!
In Time!
cuddleskunk
The NA launch of the N64 console (Sep 1996) is further away from us in time now (28 years, 6 months ago) than its launch was from the Apollo 11 Moon Landing (July 1969) (27 years, 2 months before N64 NA launch).
kaminarixiv94
I love experiencing it all.
TheRicM
I went to a "Video Game Musem" display at the science museum near me and they had Nintendo and Super Nintendo and various arcades on display. I left saying to myself, "I'm not THAT old, time just moves faster in the video game world" lol
nojustsayitdont
How many years go by before a thing is officially 'retro'. And how does 'retro' differ from 'collectable' or 'antique'?
Hashbrown123
2 generations I believe.
Hashbrown123
Also I believe retro means that it is starting to come back a bit in style.
belongsinamuseum
Doom II and Elder Scrolls: Arena are soon to be closer in time to the assassination of JFK than to our time.
JimFromMarketing
There are people with Bachelor's degrees who weren't alive when 9/11 happened
MaleProstateMilker88
Psychic damage.
Wunderknabe
I have a 1996 magazine celebrating 30 years of Star Trek. It felt like ancient history at that point and the exiting new show was Voyager. Well, next year that magazine will also be 30 years old.
DukeDarkwood
September 8th, 2026: Star Trek's 60th Anniversary.
TheRicM
30 years oldception
FrogDelay
I hate this.
Grimmrog
Well, San andreas was the best so far
rhitard
It was a simpler time, when all you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ.
Grimmrog
Some missions were painful. I had to do them felt like 100 times.
Snooj
It's 23 years old now. This video it a year old. It's so retro.
Geistbar
As a millennial I do find the year gaps a bit jarring. But also: is it just me or do the culture gaps between the periods not feel that significant?
2008 to today definitely has a lot of changes, but at least to my assessment that 17 year gap feels less significant than even the 10 year gap from 1998 to 2008. Again the changes from 2008 to today are real, but I just feel like the cultural shifts aren't as major between decades as they were in the 70s through to 2000.
Nathanyel
2001-2008 undid a lot of progress in the US, just like 2017-2020 did, and 2025-? will do
skincancerisfun
When I think about the 70s/80s/90s, it feels like there were discreet jumps. You had a thing, then you got a new one and put the old one aside and it becomes a relic. But around 2005, it feels like we changed to a state of constant improvement. You have a ps3, which came out in 2007, but was last updated this month
OnlyOneArman
I think you're right. Going from the 80s (home computers and video game consoles were new) to the 90s (Internet/world wide web kicks off) to the 00s (broadband, cell phones become ubiquitous) was a huge change, compared to technology changes in many earlier decades, especially with information sharing. 1998 to 2008 went from "cell phones are luxury items/computers are bulky" to "everyone has an Internet-connected computer in their pocket".
LeSethX
There has been enough gap that some refer to games we had in the 90s and early 2000s, such as Half Life, as "Boomer Shooters" cuz Boomer equals anything perceived as old. Despite an actual Boomer shooter would be the Vietnam War
Manhoarder
Probably, the only thing I disagree with is the cultural shifts, they got even faster in my opinion, for example us old gen Z have very little in common with young gen z'ers, much less with Gen Alpha and probably even less so in the near future since 2024 is the start of gen beta.
MoopsyLD
well 2008 had the financial crisis and the first iphone released in 2007. that time right there really marked a shift but yea it doesn't really feel that significant right now. we are in a weird spot right now of stagnation with little innovation due to people fucking things up more.
Armag3ddon
Nah, sorry. The years you experience during your youth always feel more significant and impactful and after that you stop paying attention to the changes and somehow think "not much happened".
jacketyjack
I feel the same way. But that might just be our age and experience. The older I get the every change feels less significant because you're kind off hardened I guess. Also, As I get older I no longer follow up on all the trends but just live my life like I learned to do it back when. Something to consider, the first smartphone (iPhone 1) came out in 2007. The current omnipresence of smartphones has definitely changed our lives forever.
Smartbutnotreally
This hits particularly hard, because I played the original GTA (top down version) when it first came out... 😂 I'm old!
3Davideo
Uhhhhh but "retro" means "made in an older style but is actually newer". If it's an original it's not "retro", but it *can* be "classic".
DarkSock
* walks quietly into the sea *
ministryofpeace
No no no, you must not go gentlenight, you walk out screaming, or, at least gently sobbing in a gen x sort of way
Fhant
.... * follows *
sundaymondayhippyday
“Come back!
We walk hand in hand together!”
Imadethisaccounttopost
It's ever worse that the 360/Wii/PS3 are now Retro..
Madara1389
Right. The Xbox 360 will be 20 years old this November.
When the PS2 launched, people already considered the SNES to be retro, but gap between the SNES & PS2 system releases was 9 years & 3 months. We are roughly twice as far from the PS3's launch as the PS2 was from the SNES.
Imadethisaccounttopost
2 Generations, that's the rule for Retro.
Wolfos
Considering the popularity of PS1 and sometimes PS2 aesthetics atm, I'd say it's 3. The world isn't ready for 2007 to be retro yet. It's still just old.
Imadethisaccounttopost
It's been two for decades, NES was Retro during N64, SNES during GC.
The 360 came out in 2005, WII and PS3 in 2006. They are two gens ago so fall under retro.. people already talk about the Wii as if it's retro.. and that terrifies me.
Badprenup
Well if it makes you feel any better, it's likely that in 3 months the Switch 2 will launch, making the Wii U retro.
Madara1389
That's not necessarily true; the only people not ready to acknowledge 2007 as "retro" are Millennials who are upset by the idea that they're getting old & no longer the primary demographic for PG-13 content. Gen Z and Gen Alpha both consider games & movies released back then to be retro, and most games from back then absolutely have aged fairly poorly compared in both graphics and gameplay standards.
Wolfos
I'll acknowledge it as outdated. Retro is when it becomes "in" again. I think that hasn't happened yet.
guardianzero
oh.. oh no.. my favorite game...
cusbuster
I spent all my allowance on the coin op version of this.
airbreather
Ok, well, just wanting to hear audio on that let me down an emulator rabbit hole. Now I just blew like 20 minutes playing old Atari games at work. Good thing break starts today.
foreverinchains
Ah, Joust. It's been a while.
sphericalworld
Nothing beat getting that stupid bird to go about Mach 2 around the screen and then die by one pixel to your buddy that just bounced up and down.
thisnameisntfunny
Your buddy knew how to make his bird fly backwards, which made them nearly invincible.
sphericalworld
Very true!
PinkEater
weirdnorwegianguy
I know, man. I know https://youtube.com/shorts/yEXXkFVFfc8?si=1TKyKqFIRrUOGwX9
Skevoid
In color? Aren't we fancy!
isetprettygirlsonfire
I loved joust!
Freemasonry
Yeeeaaaah, good ol joust
bingtittletittlebong
The original flappy bird
Revyloution
So many quarters spent in the 7/11.
Isgrimnur
That 70s show was released in 1998, set in 1976. Of a similar gap were done today, it would be That 00s Show, set in 2003.
Nathanyel
Isn't that the porn parody?
TheRealArclight
Artoris
With all due respect...
lsnasty
Stop stop he’s already dead.
BlueRonfar
Tell me what you thought about when you were gone and so alone.
hakdragon
Red would still be putting boots in people’s asses.
Schlumpfi
There's a follow up in which the kids are parents now, it's that 90's show. It's from 2023....
Freemasonry
... Mr Stark, i don't feel so good
finnwin
I didn’t come here to feel sad.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
That wasn't a very nice thing to say
Hashbrown123
Happy Days was a 70s show set in the 50s.
msporkboy
Shut your mouth.
IneverWantedToBeBorn
omg no thanks : heelys, chains on every pair of jeans spiky hair and stickers
FriendlyNeighborhoodGrammarPerson
I mean... they did do that. Has no one seen That 90's Show?
anotherrelevantusername
Sooo... it ist... not... set in 2003...
SidewalkWidflower
No because it was pretty bad, lol
anotherrelevantusername
I liked the second season much better than the first.
Hoogemast
What is it that while we had a massive technologic advancement, I don't really feel like the cultural / fashion difference is all that big. There were some differences like ripped clothing and stuff, but somehow I feel like 2003 is kinda similar to now besides the big tech difference. Is that just me?
sundaymondayhippyday
Take your medication.
The clothes made now won’t last a season they’re garbage- there’s a non-fun fact
ironymus
2003 was pre-smartphone era. Apple introduced the first all-screen smartphone in 2007. I think these devices changed the world a tad bit
Lontri
There were still rock bands. Let me explain, so at some point a few years ago I was looking at what kinds of bands some rock festivals were having these days. They're not rock festivals anymore. Most artists they have now are pop and rap, maybe possibly a metal band or 2. BaCk In My DaY rock festivals had rock bands, and maybe a couple metal bands. I don't recognise the festivals I went to back in the 2000's. Well, I still go to one, but it's a metal festival, and it's changed a bit too.