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Rainman574
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YellowDrank
Suicide seems to be a cultural issue problem in the wealthier countries. There's a good Freakonomics episode on it.
ThatNameWasTaken
My cousin was like a brother to me, closest friend I've ever had. When he killed himself I understood.
Ifindale
This quote is the only reason that I am here as well.
MrBoJandles
What is it from?
Griff0
My father hung himself when I was 9. It has cast a shadow over my life for the last 27 years.
Verax
I don't have words, I can't even begin to fathom. Virtual hugs and if you ever need to talk IM me.
Megarith
I will endure a lifetime of anxiety, self-loathing, hatred and emptiness, just to see my friends smiling, safe and sound. I live for them.
doctopussy
Reminding myself that suicide is a selfish choice helps me. I would never want to bring that pain to my family and friends. Others don't
doctopussy
always see it that way.
th3goodj3rk
Yep, keep implying that the ones who are thinking about it are "selfish" or "egocentric." That'll really help 'em.
IratetheD
why should one suffer to make others happy? most mental illness is chronic and has no cure. pills can help but it only dulls the pain. if
IratetheD
you have suffered from mental illness your whole life you would know the agony of trying to live only for others. Those with physical
IratetheD
illness who have not cure, we are okay with letting them go. But if its only killing you in your mind on the inside its another story and
verynamesuchamazewow
A catchy phrase to guilt someone into not killing themselves isn't helping them.It's a example of the lazy world that makes them want to die
verynamesuchamazewow
Even though I was even commited to a institution for the attempt I nearly died, after I got out, it's back to routine of no one believing me
verynamesuchamazewow
Or wanting to help or even listen to my problems. The clinic I got to won't even have someone listen, only medicine that doesnt work.
verynamesuchamazewow
5 minutes a month with a doctor who can't even remember my name or be bothered to read/remember my chart. That's all the time I get.
Magpiebones
Guilt-tripping to go on when you are as down as you can be, yay!
FootHead58
I didn't really see it as a guilt trip. More like showing them they are cared for
jlindquist74
That often isn't enough.
SluntBiggums
I hate this argument so much, I have so much to say against it that 140 characters can't hold. Fuck you if you use this line. Seriously.
strawberry1217
I completely agree. It pisses me off.
Albertiarp
Dont some people commit suicide for that reason?
traxicat
Definitely. Living under the weight of guilt is no way to live at all.
licitchaos
I have "chronic pain" that will continue getting worse. I worry the pain will continue to change me further from who I was, and (1/2)
licitchaos
I'll do more damage to them by suffering, changing, and dying, then just dying now......or soon. IDK which is worse for everyone.(2/2)
nervouslynibblesskittles
Too true. I don't think I'll ever feel forgiven.
YouSufferWithCognitiveDissonance
In Sydney Australia, they reduced the number of people that jumped of the harbour bridge by telling them that the force of impact with...1/2
YouSufferWithCognitiveDissonance
the water ripped off all clothes meaning they end up naked. Apparently for most people being naked is worse than killing oneself. 2/2
verynamesuchamazewow
It's apparently cheaper for the governments of the world to trick people like this than to actually help those individuals who are ill.
logantus
Why are you bring downvoted? This is actually interesting. It isn't like talking about suicide makes them do it.
YouSufferWithCognitiveDissonance
It can be difficult at times to understand the downvote faeries
IcandowhateverIlike
Wow, how great. Either subject loved ones to decades of disappointment or give it to them all at once and let them get on with their lives.
IcandowhateverIlike
I can't win either way.
totesymahgoatsy
Or..y'know...seek help and nobody has to suffer...?
IcandowhateverIlike
It doesn't work like that. What do you do when the help doesn't help? It's not like people end it because they have abundant options.
totesymahgoatsy
As someone dealing with a very recent suicide in the family, I would urge you to seek different help. Keep going. Suicide isn't the answer.
IcandowhateverIlike
That's the tragedy of it, it's the only answer! All roads lead to Rome, it's inevitable. I gotta go to work now, sorry to hear of your loss.
Vitrum
Yep, my mom killed herself 8 years ago, and I'm just now getting over the depression.
WhatsaNinjaGottaDotogetanUpvote
Sorry for your loss :/
WisdomPlaytime
My dad killed himself exactly 20 years ago and I'll never get over the pain.
gbreezy
In the past 5 years three of my best friends committed suicide. I still think of them every day. They're still contacts in my phone
Detmig
I am so sorry for you losing three... Way too tuff.
EphemeralHeartbreak
My mom did the same five years ago. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Vitrum
I'm sorry for yours as well.
CookieMonsterFD
So very true...
Kewra
1)Thoughts of suicide are your brain's way of saying that it's coping tools are blunt. Seek help, get new tools, like for a physical symptom
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
No matter how well thought out your note is or the reasons for doing it, you will still poop yourself. Remember how they'll find you.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
not if you shoot yourself in a vat of acid!
IcandowhateverIlike
Not if you poop before you go.
pisswaterprincess
Suicidal people don't need to be guilted in to staying alive. They need help with the pain they want to escape from.
SanSamis
We'll get them help tomorrow. For tonight, guilt them into staying alive. Fuckin' A right, buddy.
ihavewaytoomanyminis
Long term help should always be the goal, but sometimes you have to play dirty with depression. Lord knows it doesn't play fair with you.
thrymn
The kind of person who tries to guilt someone into living is probably the reason the person needs to be convinced to live...
ihavewaytoomanyminis
Nobody else is in your head but you. At the suicidal impulse, only you can stop you. They're your thoughts, your emotions, and your life.
DeltaNorthern
I can't help but agree. This seems rather backwards to me.
jharrison149
Sometimes you can do something for someone else when you can't think of a reason to do it for yourself.
umoconnb
This may be true, but I've had dozens of treatment attempts for my Bipolar depression and nothing has the worked. The pain has to stop
Okiegoon
Keep trying. Please. I've been through more meds than I can count on my fingers and toes. There may be something that can help.
umoconnb
I'm starting ECT next month hoping it will help...
Okiegoon
Best wishes to you. I hope it does.
kevincow
How is it not also selfish to want someone else to live in pain just so you don't have to deal with the pain of losing them?
Zugswang
If someone's suicidal, they already asked for help all the other ways they knew how, and no one answered.
Okiegoon
That's one of the problems. They might not have asked for help, or talked to anyone. Someone would have answered I hope.
licitchaos
Some don't want to appear weak, or too stupid to fix problem, so don't ask. Some don't realize they are suicidal until they decide to die.
ICDarkly
Same, my daughter. I'm still here only for her.
ICDarkly
I really need some advice. Can someone message me please. I have no one I can talk to.
dizzyplaya
How depressing would that be for your daughter to find out? Your child will always want you to live for more than them, for yourself.
DeezNutsGotEm
You, my friend, have so much to live for. Keep pushing on. Look at where you are now. You made it this far, you can keep keeping on
azucarazucarazucarazucarwoohooo
Be strong when she becomes a teen. You know it will be hard, but after that, she will need you even more than now :)
AKBenjo
It was my son for me
LesighLesigh
Someone has to clean the mess up and there is always a mess.
samouze
Not if there is no body to be found!
IRideUnicornsNakedInPublic
Once I had started considering suicide and this came up, it really let me know how sick I was. I started reaching out after that.
twofishtails
When people in my town admit to suicidal thoughts, the police treat them like criminals. Handcuffed, put in a jail cell and interrrogated.
hellotheregovenah
What town?
jlindquist74
Obviously not one of the ones where the police show up and shoot them.
twofishtails
Not good idea to identify publicly on this forum, but its not uncommon for police to unnecessarily and forcibly restrain generally.
Rainman574
Always remember get help and http://imgur.com/Z1rifwt
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OptimisticDownvoteLover
Fuck you.
inkfish524
That was a punch to the face. +1
krapmyself
You can see in his eyes just how empty and hollow those words are.
Scars0fStrength
I saw it too!!!
TheFirstDreadPirateRoberts
This, this and more this!
dontyoudarereadthisusername
Lance Clayton?
scarletparsec
The character he played in the movie World's Greatest Dad.
Idonthavealottosay
Hypocrite.
krapmyself
That saying is made up by people who've never suffered depression but think they can empathize with those who do
PleaseDisperseNothingToSeeHere
The sadness I his eyes is powerful
OptimisticDownvoteLover
His eyes... They hold no emotion
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mongoosebeep
Ooft :(
shimmernshine
I don't stand a fucking chance.
Okiegoon
?
shimmernshine
Robin Williams lived with it and advocated for awareness but still did the thing despite a lifetime of success and love. It's hopeless.
Okiegoon
He did it until he was in his 60's and had multiple health problems. You stand a chance. Promise.
shimmernshine
Thanks.
Eliwoodthegoothoonter
This hurts to see coming from him. Good on you op for getting awareness to this :)
GeorgeBushdidHarambe
He was diagnosed with a disease that would jave cause him to die slowly and painfully. I would have done the same.
Okiegoon
It may or may not have been suicide http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/03/robin-williams-disintegrating-before-suicide-widow-says
Okiegoon
In any case, still super sad.
Herons
The irony.
lphotogurl
Considering he was diagnosed with LBD, I think it's difficult to say whether it was the dementia or his lifelong BPD that killed him.
AngelsinmyMouthfield
I thought it was him that killed him
JohnFloorwalker
His problems weren't really temporary though. His situation really wasn't suicide, more like medical euthanasia.
JohnFloorwalker
*Self prescribed euthanasia I think. Important to note.
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cleverbeans
To fight something and lose is not hypocrisy.
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wegotabadassoverhere
You said the same thing again. You done fucked up now!
katieisawizard
That and he was diagnosed with dementia. At this point in medicine, it is a death sentence of your "self" and there is no future.
La1938
For him it was a permanent solution to a permanent problem, since he had developed [Alzheimers]?
hamaybe
Parkinson's which exacerbated his pre-existing depression
InboxMeYourBengals
His autopsy confirmed it was Lewy Body Dementia and not Parkinson's
hamaybe
Oh yeah my bad.
rivenwhistle
Lewy body dementia. Parkinson's on crack. So much harder for those affected to realize they aren't thinking reasonably. It's a bitch.
LordChanticleer
I'm not crying. You're crying.
PannDuhh
I guess he forgot about his movie, What Dreams May Come
GilgameshWulfenbach
He actually talked a lot about how hard that movie was for him to do. Made him think a lot.
Jonmbram
It's going to be too soon forever.
Clarion5
Isn't this from World's Greatest Dad, where he lies about his son's (accidental) suicide?
MooseSK
Can confirm.
AreThoseMyPants
I think so, but lack the motivation to verify.
Bombideer
I was surprised that it wasn't brought up more here when he died. It's got a LOT on the subject, but no, we got Watchmen's Pagliacci gifs...
QuantumSupersexposition
too soon.
SuperSJW
Not sure that was the right person to give advice on suicide...
Fiss
The fact that he meant so much to so many was a hard, but valuable lesson to the world. I wonder how many times he *didn't* do it...
ImgurMontoya
To me it made it even more powerful. Even when you know suicide isn't the answer, depression is still a hard battle to fight.
SuperSJW
And despite him knowing all the pain he was feeling would be passed on, he still did it. It's just ironic that he didn't listen to himself.
Volacious18
I'm really trying.
hellotheregovenah
Join a gym class make friends. Trust life is so worth living! Get a SO, Have kids, they are amazing
Volacious18
I know it's immature but I'm happy when I know other people care about me. So right now, with no friends or SO, life has been rough. :(
hellotheregovenah
Well I cared enough to comment and check on you! Your imgurian friends care! :)
Volacious18
Yes you did. Thanks.
Okiegoon
Please keep trying, don't give up. Amazing things can and do happen, and will happen. Promise.
Volacious18
I've been waiting for them to happen but everything gets worse and worse. Just one thing after another and I can't catch a break.
Okiegoon
Yep. Sucks balls. It sucks now, but it can change in a blink sometimes and be amazing. Sorry it's sucking now. Peace be with you.
licitchaos
Find something that you like doing, crafting, travel, games, anything. Then look for ppl that like the same things or that help you improve.
licitchaos
It'll be easier to find ppl you like if you figure out what you like and stay open to making friends during the process.
licitchaos
Telling yourself I have to find a friend today adds stress to a stressful situation. Look for something fun, and ask advice w/o an agenda
Volacious18
Figure out what I like...it's easier said than done when nothing's making me happy. :(
licitchaos
It's either I've tried everything and nothing will make me happy, Or I haven't found it yet. If you don't look you won't find something fun
Volacious18
I try but it gets overwhelming.
Dunbanrocks
Ive got a weird opinion on suicide. If my best friend is hurting this bad ill gladly take the pain. As long as hes free. Ill endure for him.
Theguybehindthecurtain
Someone always has had it worse off, and endured. If they can, you can. It'll be hard, but it is doable.
samouze
It's not about having it worse or better. When you have nothing to live for you just do what you have to do.
Copperbrat
You're selfless. It's hard to understand why people need to leave. It's especially hard for children. But I'd much rather miss someone 1/
Copperbrat
and be broken-hearted, than to see them stay while suffering horribly because of the selfish needs of their loved ones. 2/2
JustAGirlOnImgur
My best friend's body was just found a week ago, and they said it was suicide. She was suffering so much and in constant fear and pain, 1/
JustAGirlOnImgur
& meds and therapy weren't helping at all. She had the hardest life & recent mental illness. I feel selfish wishing she was still here 2/
JustAGirlOnImgur
Because at least I know now she's at peace.... She was hurting so bad and there was nothing I or anyone could do :/ but it's so hard
licitchaos
If someone found non-cure solution, or help to friend's problem, 2 months after, would it destroy you? Regardless of your actions to help.
Aeriix
I lost my dad to suicide over a year ago. I'll never stop missing him, but he doesn't have to deal with his failing mental health anymore.
Aeriix
There's nothing scarier than the threat of losing yourself, so for that I'm glad he's not hurting anymore. So I can agree with you.
licitchaos
A lot of ppl think that and, at the same time, they want the person to endure as much as they can, look for an answer, and try anything.
JacobFoxxx
but its not only you its effecting.
TEDwisdom
But you can only control your reaction to it. Being okay with it is the second best thing you can do for them.
JacobFoxxx
i understand. ive been on both sides. i could honestly talk about this for hours.....
Dayrest
I will only agree with this if it's untreatable physical pain and or massive disability. If mental, get help. It can be fixed.
thisisnotdog
Imgur is so fickle when it comes to this topic. People on this post seem to be glorifying suicide, but when Robin did it, they said get help
Dayrest
I like how I get downvoted. Apparently mental health issues that can be fixed, are worthy of killing yourself over according to 5 ppl.....
thisisnotdog
Well I upvoted you buddy. I think your point was valid.
ChallengerDeep
The thing is, it's so treatable. Take a few pills and feel normal versus splattering your brains on the back wall.
CallsYouATosser
You have a noble opinion on it. You can love a person enough that you want what's best for them, not what's convenient for you. 1/?
CallsYouATosser
That is regrettably the minority viewpoint, and indicates how rampant selfishness is in that it's clear to want what's best for a loved one.
azucarazucarazucarazucarwoohooo
I understand your view point and in part, share it. but I rather help the other person stand up and see beauty in life again 1/
azucarazucarazucarazucarwoohooo
I try every day not to fall into pieces again, I know life sucks, but it can also have good things. like the wind on your face... just try
CallsYouATosser
How on earth can you log in with an account name like that? Good grief.
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
In this case though, I think it's also a lot of "life CAN get better." It's not a guarantee, but people hate to see that someone died 1/
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
right before something could've turned around. I attempted in the past, and I keep an ongoing list of "things I would've missed if I had 2/
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
killed myself on (date)." There are lots of surprisingly good things about continuing past the pain, if you know where to look. The first 3/
StuperDan
The problem is not just you. It's his mom, his dad, his sister,his little brother. Everyone who knows and cares about him.
Copperbrat
If "caring" about someone means I bid them stay and suffer because it's *my* wish/desire/need, then that's a strange way of caring.
deodorantinmybutt
This. I know if my son were to kill himself (he's only a toddler Now, but in the future) I would prob end up killing myself or wanting to.
TEDwisdom
If they care about their well being then they too should try and understand the pain the person is going through.
kokotkaaa
Easy to say, more difficult to do. Even if you understand the person you still suffer. Soz
vivianvixen
So the quote shouldn't be about it passing the pain on, but rather multiplying it, perhaps?
tinyoddsquid
exactly.
StuperDan
Very much so.
DAMMITSTOPSTEALINGMYFAVORITEUSERNAMES
My dad committed suicide 7 years ago almost to the date. I tired a few years after. My mom told me to go ahead and do it.
xcrit
Hang in there, one day you might get to hold a plug keeping her alive. Remind her of her comment then.
mthedoor
fucking ouch :/
insearchoftheperfectusername
When my dad found out I was cutting, he said next time I should come to him. He'll smash my fingers with a sledgehammer so it wouldn't (1)
insearchoftheperfectusername
Leave scars and embarrass the family.
DAMMITSTOPSTEALINGMYFAVORITEUSERNAMES
Fuck man. I'm sorry. Dads can be really shitty sometimes.
insearchoftheperfectusername
A friend of mine had to drive me to the hospital after a suicide attempt. That is when my dad clued in that he might actually lose me. (1)
insearchoftheperfectusername
Things got way better after that and we are very close now
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
ooogh.... I'm sorry man. I have a similar experience. My mom saw scars from an (albeit weak) attempt, and said "Why don't you just kill
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
yourself already?"
CheshirexKitten
I want to hug you.
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
<3 In hindsight, I think she was scared and overwhelmed and didn't know what to do. Shouldn't have happened, but it's hard to deal with it.1
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
I've long since accepted that my mom is not great with crises like that. But thank you man, that means a lot. :)