They make plenty of original stuff, but—unless it's a breakout hit—it tends to make less money than the remakes or sequels, and that is the primary metric by which success is decided. And if it IS a hit, then it gets to join everything else on the treadmill.
There are three good movies in Hancock dammit. They just don't work together. Also make most of AvP about the girl and the predator, that was the best part.
I still claim Shadow in the Cloud was ruined by having Chloe Grace Moretz in it, doing the dumbest most impossible things, despite the film having a REALLY fucking cool plot idea and theme.
Re-release the Man with the Golden Gun, but the only change is when they do the incredible spiral car jump on the bridge, they lose that fucking slide-whistle.
Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, License to Kill, Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall are all better than Live and Let Die. Its in the top third, not top 3. The theme is a banger tho.
It's a classic. Man with the Golden Gun and The Spy Who Loved Me are both excellent films. They sort of fall off a bit after Moonraker, but they still have their campy moments.
There's enough material out there for great movies/series. No need to milk old stuff, just make good movies and shows and people will watch. How about a series for The Stand or The Dark Tower? The Neverending Story?
The Dark Tower allegedly needs another attempt at a series. Never watched the one the came out a couple years ago but heard it missed the mark. Series is apparently fantastic
I've a theory with that. See I think if a movie studio has a idea for a film, and tosses together a shakey script, they hire Jared to act in it. If it gets panned and shit upon, they can blame his "acting" in the movie, rather than a horrible script *coughs Suicide Squad* *coughs Morbius* If it makes mony somehow, it's because of their good scriptwriting.
That describes Colin Farrell's entire career. Twice a year there are headlines about how nobody went to see the new Colin Farrell film. Yet they keep trying.
I saw that recently actually, its kitsh af but i think it has a lot of charm. Today theyd make it all gritty and "classy" and probably throw Bill Skarsgard in it for no reason. Id like it to stay exactly as it is now, 90s charm.
It's based on a short story by William Gibson, set in the same universe as Neuromancer. Apple TV announced they were making Neuromancer into a series, no idea if it will actually see the light of day.
I say please because I read the story before I saw the movie and the movie broke my heart with its tacky awfulness. Honestly, the idea of them attempting to translate Neuromancer to the screen doesn't fill me full of hope, but it literally couldn't be worse than what they did to Johnny Mnemonic. If, as you say, it even happens.
They have kind of been doing that, but instead of trying to make another movie out of them, they have been making TV series out of them instead. And for many of them it's worked rather well. As the main reason why many of them flopped is because the movies were too rushed for new audience members and cut out too much for existing fans.
Then there were ones that were successful movies that have also been getting the same treatment. Such as Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter. And there was just an Alien TV series as well. Though the ones that were successful tend to not get as many remakes but more spin off shows.
LOTR: The Rings of Power, and Alien: Earth count more as spin-off shows, since they're not remaking the stories in the films. Same with Dune: Prophecy. Harry Potter sounds like it will be a straight-up remake though.
Yes they got spin-offs because the movies were successful, Potter is getting a TV remake, because they tried to do spin-off movies. But those movies basically flopped. So they are going back to their proven material. So the main Potter moves were successful, but the follow-up movie series was not.
Amazon bought MGM and has the rights to Stargate now. There seems to be interest in making a new series, but last I heard they were thinking of making t a new continuity rether than a continuation of SG1, Atlantis and Universe.
Also an option, remake bad movies but intentionally try to make them worse! Wife and I recently forced ourselves through Mummy Shark... it was gloriously horrible...
We need more schlock studios and ambitious action from armatures. There's a reason so many beloved "bad" movies come from the 80s, and it has everything to do with low to no budget studios laundering coke money through earnest ambition.
DS9's first couple seasons were slow and contained the majority of the "bad" episodes - but I'd argue that because DS9 started to move away from episodic content those seasons are still vitally important to the series. Especially for the characters that have arcs about overcoming internal challenges which depended on seeing where they came from so viewers can appreciate where they ended up (IMO the best examples of this are Sisko, Kira, Rom, and Nog but there are many others).
i'm gonna come back to my original point, and add a bit, the first season is almost always terrible, alone... like pretty much any anime, it takes a bit to introduce characters, set/setting, etc.. there are soo many great stories that get lost/canceled because that takes soo long, with a book, you can see that how long it continues, with a series, it's easy to just lose interest, because.. who knows anymore...
That wasn't their line of thinking. It was more Total Recall, Robocop, and Ghostbusters made good money and people have nostalgia for them so we should make them again and we'll make a killing off that nostalgia.
And I for one enjoyed the nostalgia trip of the Ghostbusters sequel/reboot. I have little interest in watching any more, ask me again in another 40 years.
The problem is that unsuccessful movies were... well... Unsuccessful. Hollywood companies don't want to take a chance on something they've seen fail already. They want to take something that has proven to be popular and rehash it, because that's safer. I fully agree that bad films should be the priority for a remake, so they can become something good. I'd love to see an Eragon remake that does the books justice, and not that horrible slop we were given back in the mid 2000s. Won't happen.
Which is funny because some of the most successful film franchises in hollywood were considered to be a risk. George Lucas couldn't sell Star Wars to any studio, in a time when science fiction films were hugely unsuccessful, until Fox decided to take a chance on it. And they were so unconvinced of it's success that they let him keep pretty much all of the rights for everything. The success of Star Wars is what opened the world up to what became modern science fiction.
To build on this: there are no "bad" movies, only successful and unsuccessful movies. Pieces of crap make hundreds of millions. Works of art get forgotten to time. To suggest that we should just try the good ideas that missed the first time fundamentally misunderstands what good and bad means to a production studio.
I mean, once you define bad, you can certainly say there are bad movies. There are certainly movies that are less entertaining than others, or show clumsy handling of premise, or of writing, or of acting, or of any of a million other things.
The word only means 'not achieving an adequate standard.' If you don't define the standard, then the word's usage has no meaning. No input, no output.
Again, in Hollywood "bad" is irrelevant. The only standard is the ROI. If a piece of shit makes money, it's successful and the industry will use its success as a standard. This is why there are so many Kevin Heart and Dwayne, The Rock, Johnson movies. They succeed regardless any profound mediocrity.
Could one make Manos the Hands of Fate into something tolerable...or good? I mean if we're doing it over again, you only have to stay with a few of elements
Doesn't fit the prompt. Manos never had a good story at its core. It was made by somebody who thought script writing was easy and that "anybody could do it." It was basically an AI horror prompt with somehow less understanding of story structure.
Eragon was a hot mess, though. Packed with bog standard tropes that somehow still felt mismatched. It was headlining in bookstores a month before it hit shelves, which reads to me like someone got a huge favor. And guess what? The author's parents owned a publishing company who distributed it, hyped it, got it to the attention of a major publisher, who manufactured a 'grass roots prodigy' myth to try and boost it.
It made money; but so did Fifty Shades of Grey, and I thought the samples of writing I saw posted were jokes until someone sent me a picture of a paper page. When books primarily came from bookstores, it was easy to force a book to make money if bookstores are putting up posters and displays a month before release. Among publishing insiders, it was a lesson in how narrative can sell books as well as content can.
The critical reception by critics and its reviews by readers were >
less kind. The narrative was regarded as typical, Star Wars/LOTR plot structures, prose was called amateur, the dialog called flat. Tropes and gimmicks out of various brands of fantasy seemed to be shoehorned in, without regard to whether they built a coherent world.
But once a series is on the shelves, you invent a demand. It found a footing particularly with young readers -- my opinion at the time was that it was the only place it could find a forgiving audience. Later books were also successful, though sales consistently dropped for each book. They were criticized in similar ways. Apparently some critics thought the second was 'more confident,' based on what I'm reading, but also still derivative.
This is related to why studios are putting out sequel after sequel, and it's largely about streaming. They don't make as much money off streaming as they used to off ongoing VHS and DVD sales. They used to be more willing to take a chance on untested movies as they'd usually end up at least breaking even in the long run. But now, if they don't make much at the box office, they probably won't break even.
When it comes to remakes and sequels, they know there's an audience for them. The fast and the furious 27 probably won't be a hit, but there's enough of a following of the franchise that they can expect to turn at least a tidy profit. And a remake of a popular movie will also have an audience interested to see it.
I see where you are coming from, but Eragon is one of the worst possible examples, really.
The book was a terrible mess of plagiarization and standard fantasy tropes and clichès from "Mr. never read a fantasy book before writing one."
You had to look long and thorough back then to find something worse, until Potter came along. Since then, of course, it all went down the drain, cause why bother anymore.
Paolini is no Brandon Sanderson, that's for damn fucken' sure. Hell, he ain't even a Robert Jordan, also I actually *liked* Wall of Text ... I mean ... Wheel of Time.
His parents apparently owned a publishing company that distributed it on a small scale until they could get the attention of a major publisher, who manufactured a grass-roots prodigy myth to hype it a month before it hit shelves, while they re-edited it for a larger release.
I would submit this comparison: the succubus overlords are remaking sex that was experienced, confident, and remaking it when the performers are old and sick of their shit. They could, instead, be revisiting experiences that were passionate and meaningful, but inexperienced, and revisiting that passion when experience and confidence is added.
That’s the fallacy they’re operating under. The point in the remake is to “do it differently”. If it’s a shot for shot remake, there’s really no point in a remake
The latter part of my statement actually applies more to the shitty remakes that don't do anything original. It's great that they added pixels and it's now in high def and slightly changed the physics to make a little more sense or something now because science got updated. But nothing of artistic value was gained.
Occasionally the modern graphics/special effects can make a huge difference - John Carpenter’s The Thing is a good example of this IMO
Oh and since you made me think of it, I’ll share one haha
Was with a girl in our early 20s who was very inexperienced. She offered to give me a bj, yay me, right!!?
It was so terrible, way too much teeth, never thought suction could go so wrong. Somehow dry. Wouldn’t take instruction and thought she was doing a good job.
And to top it off when I nicely convinced her that “I was done” she told me “not to look forward to that again for a long while”.
pineapplecatastrophe
The Anacondas remake looks fun :)
BaddyOneShoe
The Dark Tower. Do it better.
JimFromMarketing
This is the answer
PanNonOpticon
They did. Dune.
Shinryus
Eragon please.
Thekindofkindlyman
Each book would work as a single 8-10 episode season. Movie was way too condensed
spooktree
like hardbodies?
RavenBlue
You're old, lol.
dragonsdemesne
Someone needs to do the Wheel of Time but properly this time. Like, actually read the books, then write a script.
AntiProtonBoy
Or make something fucking original for once. Stop remaking shit, good or bad.
lordnequam
They make plenty of original stuff, but—unless it's a breakout hit—it tends to make less money than the remakes or sequels, and that is the primary metric by which success is decided. And if it IS a hit, then it gets to join everything else on the treadmill.
sometimesarobot
Remake weird movies from the 60s-70s, not something from 10 years ago
lonelyrangerofthedreams
No no, stop with remake please.
draek1
Yeah this is why I'm so excited for Highlander
OutspokenHBW
There are three good movies in Hancock dammit. They just don't work together. Also make most of AvP about the girl and the predator, that was the best part.
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
That’s exactly why we got Ocean’s 11.
tjm1226
Can we add some TV shows too? Game of Thrones. Lost. Halo.
PapaJoeNH
GOT ended so badly that even during Covid no one watched it. And watching tv was all we had
rinoafoxfire7
Never watched the show, but I know a lot of what happened because of my coworkers and memes. The coffee cups ones were pretty funny.
Clayman8
I still claim Shadow in the Cloud was ruined by having Chloe Grace Moretz in it, doing the dumbest most impossible things, despite the film having a REALLY fucking cool plot idea and theme.
ZuluThreeZero
World War Z as an HBO series that takes more from the book than just the damn name?
NihilisticHydrogen
I Am Legend as well while they are at it!
taez555
The Roger Moore bond movies are classics!!!
WhiskyBravo
Yeah I am here for the Octopussy. I liked Moonraker as a kid but it's hard to watch now. Actually most of the old ones are groan inducing
InTangier
The thing is,most of those movies didn't exactly age well.
Turbogoat
Re-release the Man with the Golden Gun, but the only change is when they do the incredible spiral car jump on the bridge, they lose that fucking slide-whistle.
taez555
That part truly is terrible. :-)
ToSisPoS
Live and Let Die is a top three of all the Bonds. This is my hill.
Wiznatts
Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, License to Kill, Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall are all better than Live and Let Die. Its in the top third, not top 3. The theme is a banger tho.
ToSisPoS
I welcome you opinion. I disagree, but welcome it nevertheless.
OurLordLucifer
Musically I def agree
taez555
It's a classic. Man with the Golden Gun and The Spy Who Loved Me are both excellent films. They sort of fall off a bit after Moonraker, but they still have their campy moments.
ToSisPoS
Every Bond (save Lazenby and Dalton due to short exposure) has their Moonraker.
Sean had Diamonds, Pierce had the Invisible Car, Craig had everything after his brain drilling.
taez555
Minus the fact Connery was already too old(god, let's not mention never say never again), Diamonds are Forever is still a classic. :-)
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
I was not expecting the Jaws love story subplot
ReepostStatistics
Spawn
76000BatteryLlamas
So basically Airplane
curialis
Waiting for that awesome Battlefield Earth reboot! jk
freshthrowaway1138
Oh yes, and make it follow the novels! A thousand pages of the slowest story ever.
Vengeraxe
Aye, its visual Mescaline. Fuck I remember reading all the books back to back once years ago. I've still not recovered.
freshthrowaway1138
oh god! I tried the first book and just gave up after like 500 pages and nothing had happened.
taez555
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
There's enough material out there for great movies/series. No need to milk old stuff, just make good movies and shows and people will watch. How about a series for The Stand or The Dark Tower? The Neverending Story?
mdkynyc
The Dark Tower allegedly needs another attempt at a series. Never watched the one the came out a couple years ago but heard it missed the mark. Series is apparently fantastic
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
There was a series? I saw the movie, Matthew McConaughey was great as Randall Flagg, but other than that it was shit unfortunately
mdkynyc
https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3871057/the-dark-tower-update-from-mike-flanagan/
mdkynyc
I swear the first season was out on Amazon but maybe it got removed? I would google more but *gestures at my old fashioned*. I cannot
LitterBoxKing
cbcd
as does Cucuruz Doan's Island.
adamlstf9
For the love of Galactus PLEASE stop rebooting Fantastic Four. The formula doesn’t work as a movie apparently, just fucking leave it!
jackal12345
It really doesn't, they're just so white bread.
noonehasthisoneyet
They did follow the remake bad movies part. They just don’t know how to make them good reboots.
ThailandExpress
Star Wars 1-3 & 7-9
TheRealSauceBoss
Watch Star Wars as IV - V - II - III - VI
The prequels work better that way.
I only enjoyed The Last Jedi of the sequels.
freshthrowaway1138
I tried to rewatch the prequels after all these years, and they are just terrible. The acting is awful. The dialogue is awful. It's just so bad.
spattr
The Tron update with Olivia Wilde a dozen years ago bombed. So they just made a new one with Jared Leto. Genius!
Vengeraxe
I've a theory with that. See I think if a movie studio has a idea for a film, and tosses together a shakey script, they hire Jared to act in it. If it gets panned and shit upon, they can blame his "acting" in the movie, rather than a horrible script *coughs Suicide Squad* *coughs Morbius* If it makes mony somehow, it's because of their good scriptwriting.
spattr
That describes Colin Farrell's entire career. Twice a year there are headlines about how nobody went to see the new Colin Farrell film. Yet they keep trying.
TheRealSauceBoss
$409.9 million off a $170 million budget in 2010 isn't a bomb. Underperformed, yes, bomb, no.
gemaeuer
but it WAS a bad movie. Just a generic action flic with neon stripes.
BlueDsc
Killer soundtrack though.
TheRealSauceBoss
I wasn't arguing good or bad, just box office performance.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Johnny Mnemonic. PLEASE.
squishybaker
It being shit gives it a mid 90's charm, I'd hate to lose it.
darbythemiddle
Heck, just make a good sequel with Keanu!
SergeyPrkl
and Ice-T
Clayman8
I saw that recently actually, its kitsh af but i think it has a lot of charm. Today theyd make it all gritty and "classy" and probably throw Bill Skarsgard in it for no reason. Id like it to stay exactly as it is now, 90s charm.
zentraldenker
Good choice.
THECosmosTerror
I don't remember Johnny Mnemonic.
Hrafna55
That's for the best.
stabthecrab
That’s right. We got the cure for the black shakes right here, coming straight at you.
-J-Bone aka Ice T. (Paraphrased quote from memory. Possibly incorrect)
quasarvoyager2
It's based on a short story by William Gibson, set in the same universe as Neuromancer. Apple TV announced they were making Neuromancer into a series, no idea if it will actually see the light of day.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
I say please because I read the story before I saw the movie and the movie broke my heart with its tacky awfulness. Honestly, the idea of them attempting to translate Neuromancer to the screen doesn't fill me full of hope, but it literally couldn't be worse than what they did to Johnny Mnemonic. If, as you say, it even happens.
LanceSackless
I hope they dont try and update or fix the tech in neuromancer, its specifically part of its charm and vibe
Targe0
They have kind of been doing that, but instead of trying to make another movie out of them, they have been making TV series out of them instead.
And for many of them it's worked rather well.
As the main reason why many of them flopped is because the movies were too rushed for new audience members and cut out too much for existing fans.
marsilies
Let's see, there's His Dark Materials, A Series of Unfortunate Events, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, and the upcoming Narnia series.
Targe0
Then there were ones that were successful movies that have also been getting the same treatment.
Such as Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter.
And there was just an Alien TV series as well.
Though the ones that were successful tend to not get as many remakes but more spin off shows.
marsilies
LOTR: The Rings of Power, and Alien: Earth count more as spin-off shows, since they're not remaking the stories in the films. Same with Dune: Prophecy. Harry Potter sounds like it will be a straight-up remake though.
Targe0
Yes they got spin-offs because the movies were successful, Potter is getting a TV remake, because they tried to do spin-off movies.
But those movies basically flopped. So they are going back to their proven material. So the main Potter moves were successful, but the follow-up movie series was not.
OmnibusLatinName
*cough* The Gunslinger *cough* I cried
Onebigcanuck
*Listens intently in Stargate SG-1*
JanglesPrime
Amazon bought MGM and has the rights to Stargate now. There seems to be interest in making a new series, but last I heard they were thinking of making t a new continuity rether than a continuation of SG1, Atlantis and Universe.
Targe0
Yeah, the rumours are of a full reboot, and not a continuation / spin off.
Tattooedpariah
Also an option, remake bad movies but intentionally try to make them worse! Wife and I recently forced ourselves through Mummy Shark... it was gloriously horrible...
RavenBlue
Read the title Mummy Shark and immediately started asking questions, then read the description and thought I gotta go watch this right now. Thanks.
RufusPimperton
We need more schlock studios and ambitious action from armatures. There's a reason so many beloved "bad" movies come from the 80s, and it has everything to do with low to no budget studios laundering coke money through earnest ambition.
wobblecopterrrr
soo many scifi series only get one or two series, the first season is almost always trash.
CanadianFurr
And then there's The Expanse.
JarJarDrinks
True. The first seasons of TNG and Voyager were clunky but they smoothed out to become good shows.
ilavalamp
DS9's first couple seasons were slow and contained the majority of the "bad" episodes - but I'd argue that because DS9 started to move away from episodic content those seasons are still vitally important to the series. Especially for the characters that have arcs about overcoming internal challenges which depended on seeing where they came from so viewers can appreciate where they ended up (IMO the best examples of this are Sisko, Kira, Rom, and Nog but there are many others).
wobblecopterrrr
i'm gonna come back to my original point, and add a bit, the first season is almost always terrible, alone... like pretty much any anime, it takes a bit to introduce characters, set/setting, etc.. there are soo many great stories that get lost/canceled because that takes soo long, with a book, you can see that how long it continues, with a series, it's easy to just lose interest, because.. who knows anymore...
wobblecopterrrr
lol, I skip the first season of tng with no remorse..
TheRealSauceBoss
First two
JarJarDrinks
Who decided that Total Recall and Robocop and Ghostbusters weren't good enough and needed a "better" remake?
freshthrowaway1138
As someone who grew up with Arnold on the big screen, I thought the Total Recall reboot was a good flick.
RavenBlue
That wasn't their line of thinking. It was more Total Recall, Robocop, and Ghostbusters made good money and people have nostalgia for them so we should make them again and we'll make a killing off that nostalgia.
dashers
And I for one enjoyed the nostalgia trip of the Ghostbusters sequel/reboot. I have little interest in watching any more, ask me again in another 40 years.
PersonalityFire
I like all of those remakes. I like their originals more, of course. But I don't think originals can be "ruined", unless it's George Lucas.
TheUnnamedPoet
The problem is that unsuccessful movies were... well... Unsuccessful. Hollywood companies don't want to take a chance on something they've seen fail already. They want to take something that has proven to be popular and rehash it, because that's safer. I fully agree that bad films should be the priority for a remake, so they can become something good. I'd love to see an Eragon remake that does the books justice, and not that horrible slop we were given back in the mid 2000s. Won't happen.
GabbyJayYay
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/starship-troopers-remake-set-neill-blomkamp-1236338005/
Sebastopol140
Exactly this. It would mean taking a risk... and they won't do that.
TheUnnamedPoet
Which is funny because some of the most successful film franchises in hollywood were considered to be a risk. George Lucas couldn't sell Star Wars to any studio, in a time when science fiction films were hugely unsuccessful, until Fox decided to take a chance on it. And they were so unconvinced of it's success that they let him keep pretty much all of the rights for everything. The success of Star Wars is what opened the world up to what became modern science fiction.
RufusPimperton
To build on this: there are no "bad" movies, only successful and unsuccessful movies. Pieces of crap make hundreds of millions. Works of art get forgotten to time. To suggest that we should just try the good ideas that missed the first time fundamentally misunderstands what good and bad means to a production studio.
BishlamekGurpgork
I mean, once you define bad, you can certainly say there are bad movies. There are certainly movies that are less entertaining than others, or show clumsy handling of premise, or of writing, or of acting, or of any of a million other things.
The word only means 'not achieving an adequate standard.' If you don't define the standard, then the word's usage has no meaning. No input, no output.
RufusPimperton
Again, in Hollywood "bad" is irrelevant. The only standard is the ROI. If a piece of shit makes money, it's successful and the industry will use its success as a standard. This is why there are so many Kevin Heart and Dwayne, The Rock, Johnson movies. They succeed regardless any profound mediocrity.
iclypse
Unless it's Fantastic Four. They keep trying that one
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
Afaik fox just pumped out soulless movies to hold on to the rights. The latest movie is quite good tho imo
CallMeCourierSix
"Hollywood! We play it safe!" should be their slogan. So fucking tired of remakes.
FUImaDragon
I've heard Disney has a contract for Eragon on the docket.
https://screenrant.com/eragon-tv-show-disney-update-great-sign-after-silence-op-ed/
HandoB4Javert
Some of the 1950's movies had great story ideas, but were made in a week while the script was still being written.
sinkingfeeling
Could one make Manos the Hands of Fate into something tolerable...or good? I mean if we're doing it over again, you only have to stay with a few of elements
RufusPimperton
Doesn't fit the prompt. Manos never had a good story at its core. It was made by somebody who thought script writing was easy and that "anybody could do it." It was basically an AI horror prompt with somehow less understanding of story structure.
sinkingfeeling
Eh. I was spitballing. I sat through theater rifftrax of that and struggled to keep the plot together
BishlamekGurpgork
Eragon was a hot mess, though. Packed with bog standard tropes that somehow still felt mismatched. It was headlining in bookstores a month before it hit shelves, which reads to me like someone got a huge favor. And guess what? The author's parents owned a publishing company who distributed it, hyped it, got it to the attention of a major publisher, who manufactured a 'grass roots prodigy' myth to try and boost it.
It's like the worst possible example.
gcleff19101
But wasn't it successful? I never it but isn't that a whole popular series?
BishlamekGurpgork
It made money; but so did Fifty Shades of Grey, and I thought the samples of writing I saw posted were jokes until someone sent me a picture of a paper page. When books primarily came from bookstores, it was easy to force a book to make money if bookstores are putting up posters and displays a month before release. Among publishing insiders, it was a lesson in how narrative can sell books as well as content can.
The critical reception by critics and its reviews by readers were >
BishlamekGurpgork
less kind. The narrative was regarded as typical, Star Wars/LOTR plot structures, prose was called amateur, the dialog called flat. Tropes and gimmicks out of various brands of fantasy seemed to be shoehorned in, without regard to whether they built a coherent world.
BishlamekGurpgork
But once a series is on the shelves, you invent a demand. It found a footing particularly with young readers -- my opinion at the time was that it was the only place it could find a forgiving audience. Later books were also successful, though sales consistently dropped for each book. They were criticized in similar ways. Apparently some critics thought the second was 'more confident,' based on what I'm reading, but also still derivative.
ThomasThundersword
Fun fact. there is (sorta) an Eragon show in the works at Disney. Chris is apparently writing for it right now!
henryv1598
This is related to why studios are putting out sequel after sequel, and it's largely about streaming. They don't make as much money off streaming as they used to off ongoing VHS and DVD sales. They used to be more willing to take a chance on untested movies as they'd usually end up at least breaking even in the long run. But now, if they don't make much at the box office, they probably won't break even.
henryv1598
When it comes to remakes and sequels, they know there's an audience for them. The fast and the furious 27 probably won't be a hit, but there's enough of a following of the franchise that they can expect to turn at least a tidy profit. And a remake of a popular movie will also have an audience interested to see it.
Tolocamp
I see where you are coming from, but Eragon is one of the worst possible examples, really.
The book was a terrible mess of plagiarization and standard fantasy tropes and clichès from "Mr. never read a fantasy book before writing one."
You had to look long and thorough back then to find something worse, until Potter came along. Since then, of course, it all went down the drain, cause why bother anymore.
gcleff19101
Yeah, that wildly unpopular awful Potter.
InitHello
Paolini is no Brandon Sanderson, that's for damn fucken' sure. Hell, he ain't even a Robert Jordan, also I actually *liked* Wall of Text ... I mean ... Wheel of Time.
BishlamekGurpgork
His parents apparently owned a publishing company that distributed it on a small scale until they could get the attention of a major publisher, who manufactured a grass-roots prodigy myth to hype it a month before it hit shelves, while they re-edited it for a larger release.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Deadpool was unsuccessful when they tried that first one…. Someone convinced them to try it again right, and it worked.
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Asadsadsadclown
The response to the test footage that Ryan Renolds posted online bridged the gap.
gcleff19101
There was a first one? Or like, the first one just didn't do well? I thought everyone loved it
Dimind
X-men Origins:Wolverine
PineappleLoopsBroether
Before that. It mighta been a demo.
RabbitRevenge
buit like, if you had to go back and have sex with the worst choices you have ever experienced in the hopes they will do a better job , would you?
GabbyJayYay
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/starship-troopers-remake-set-neill-blomkamp-1236338005/
HollerinAtTheVoid
All he has to do is follow the book, and it's a wildly different movie
BishlamekGurpgork
I would submit this comparison: the succubus overlords are remaking sex that was experienced, confident, and remaking it when the performers are old and sick of their shit. They could, instead, be revisiting experiences that were passionate and meaningful, but inexperienced, and revisiting that passion when experience and confidence is added.
HollerinAtTheVoid
That’s the fallacy they’re operating under. The point in the remake is to “do it differently”. If it’s a shot for shot remake, there’s really no point in a remake
RufusPimperton
"The four most expensive words in the English language are 'this time it's different.'"
RabbitRevenge
honestly i agree with OP, i just wanted everyone to think about there worst sexual experiences lol!
HollerinAtTheVoid
I was half expecting a “/s” as a response lol
The latter part of my statement actually applies more to the shitty remakes that don't do anything original. It's great that they added pixels and it's now in high def and slightly changed the physics to make a little more sense or something now because science got updated. But nothing of artistic value was gained.
Occasionally the modern graphics/special effects can make a huge difference - John Carpenter’s The Thing is a good example of this IMO
HollerinAtTheVoid
Oh and since you made me think of it, I’ll share one haha
Was with a girl in our early 20s who was very inexperienced. She offered to give me a bj, yay me, right!!?
It was so terrible, way too much teeth, never thought suction could go so wrong. Somehow dry. Wouldn’t take instruction and thought she was doing a good job.
And to top it off when I nicely convinced her that “I was done” she told me “not to look forward to that again for a long while”.
All I could think was “oh thank god!”
guyanesebro420
Lol how do you convince her, she didnt realize nothing came out? Lol
HollerinAtTheVoid
Right! I was just kinda like “yeah I’m finished” lol and she believed me I guess.