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Sources:
https://bsky.app/profile/lexipop398.bsky.social/post/3lvb4fximh22m
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HFzuhjgdL80
KOSA and it's sister bill, "The SCREEN act" are being pushed through as we speak.
KOSA has failed a few times in the past, but we can't let either pass through!
Fight for your personal privacy, and freedom!
Contact your congress and representative today, this is not a bipartisan issue.
https://5calls.org/
Switzerlandisntreal
Maybe to protect children… stop f*cking them.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
I don't even use face id on my own phone, I will not be using it to access the internet or games.
berlinson
God I can't wait to sign up to Corbyn's new party.
Munchman347
Whenever Rep-Cons use 'Kids' in a law, you know it's got nothing to do with kids and everything to do with keeping tabs on dissidence and 'disloyalty' to the regime. Whenever Dem-Libs use the word 'Kids' they're asking to see the Epstein Files...
Bubbells
I have to use a VPN just for work. I know more people that do the same thing. These lawmakers are idiots no more what country they are in
Ivain
Yep, they'll run into that problem soon enough, but the thing with laws like this is that they end up existing just so they can CHOOSE to enforce them. If they pass a law they KNOW is unenforcable, they'll use it to target political critics that are otherwise not doing anything wrong while letting companies do whatever they want.
modalnode
as a parent, this is all so frustrating to see because they're not actually banning the stuff that is the *real problem for young people* - youtubers and influencers pushing hateful material online - racism, misogyny, homo/transphobic stuff etc. - they're just using a "porn ban" to push surveillance (data which will likely be sold to fuckers like Palantir) and silence political dissent.
modalnode
plus, ISPs and all these big tech platforms continue to deliberately fail to put the tools of censorship into parents hands. Did you know as an end user it's still basically impossible to block specific apps on things like the switch or tablets - games that have chats where kids are being targeted, apps like youtube where 'age appropriate' is a total shambles. Even trying to block stuff via your routers etc you have to be extremely advanced at IT (and essentially use linux)
NKato
It's an engineered moral panic with the intent of an authoritarian power grab behind it.
ToonamiT0M
sadurdaynight
When govt starts legislating morality to "protect" some group, but can use it to punish another group, then it was never about protecting someone. It's about creating more ways to arrest folks and ensue fear in the public making them walk on eggshells wondering if they're breaking the law all the time.
PicassoCT
#1 The uk government would never lie, they would sweat if they lie..
Ankylosaur
whyforetho
Nice of the president to take time out of her busy schedule to be a backup singer
Darkwell
You know, this seems like the kinda guy who would throw on a rubber clown mask and make crazy music in the back of a moving minivan.
insanitypurge
I feel like one day the internet will stop having fun stuff like this and it’ll be a sad day.
thepunchline710
I hate that I love this
danwhitey
Louis Cole/KNOWER if anyone is curious
ninjafartball
My dick is in my left hand tyvm
nelllybellly1
As I've noted previously, "protect" is said when "control" is meant.
Vebrandsson
The VPN companies that funneled money into getting the online safety act passed panicking at the thought of the UK government doing the next obvious thing an cracking down on VPNs is funny to me.
CheddarExtraSharp
Which ones? So I can boycott
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
How long before MediaLab caves to this bullshit...
Gliocas
hate to tell you but on my phone i use a free VPN and it blocks it. some VPNs they allow but many they do not. the error it gives is, "too much traffic try again later error 403"
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Yes. So do I. What does that have to do with my point?
CrownPrincessAzula
If you are concerned about what your kids see online, which is fair, don't let them online. Also child protection programs exist already.
HighMagosSquidward
It's practically impossible to ban VPNs. Huge swathes of the economy would be incinerated. Do you know how many companies use a VPN in some way? I'd estimate more than half.
Hrafna55
Way more than half. This is only one source https://www.purevpn.com/vpn-reseller/vpn-statistics/? but it states '93% of organizations use VPNs for work to secure employee and office connections'.
wannasee
If this is anything like the brits exporting homophobia all over the world then, yeah, then everyone is gonna have a problem
JesaraB
The Screen Act has been shelved, repeatedly, because it is Unconstitutional, not only Unconstitutional, but a threat to national security (seriously, as the multilayered screening and surveillance it requires, which does not even have an exception for government operations, will mean that govt computers will end up locked out, monitored, and otherwise compromised)
JesaraB
I did not mean shelved this time around, just previous years and even over a decade ago
Ivain
Which means that under the new Trump Regime it'll be passed in no time.
malakim
That's the problem with this bullshit.They enter it again and again slightly altered.They only have to win once to have the foot in the door
glibbo
The UK government has been a piece of shit, for the last 20 years, how's yours going...
MotownC
Utter nonsense. For a start, domestic and international electronic commerce relies on P2P encryption as well as VPNs. Although more often, clients now use MPLS (if the client isn't a cheapskate), the connection is still encrypted. Encryption and VPNs are here to stay.
casualgenderquestion2718
Your first mistake is assuming they spoke to anyone who knew more about the internet than “It’s a series of tubes” before writing a law about it.
ToSisPoS
I thought they shut down Congress to protect the pedophiles
quzar
I, for one, hope these movements result in a breakup and shrinkage of monolithic online platforms. My beard isn't so grey that I imagine ever leaving the Eternal September, but back to before facebook opened to any user.
LordHosk
This is a shit law, and shouldn't exist.
that said, its not doxing yourself.
Xenarion
What's peculiar is how a dozen countries all pushed similar laws around the same time.
perlninja
Monkey see, monkey do most likely. Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. The latter being waaaaaaay more bountiful than the former.
casualgenderquestion2718
Eh. In the age of global fascism, that rule of thumb becomes less and less applicable by the day.
casualgenderquestion2718
I agree in general, but peculiar times require peculiar ways of thinking.
Xenarion
Fair, but laws usually take more time to write.
RayneOfSalt
The Australian government voted on and passed our insane internet bannings & restrictions well over a year ago. They took it to the federal election and the vast majority of Australians said "ok, beaut".
NomDeImguerre
What eats me is, that none of the content they want to protect their children, from is even illegal. It's purely advisory. It's content that at most leads to a difficult conversation. I get that you don't want to talk to your children, but that's your problem, not ours.
StarmineRendezvous
This is their big attempt to control the internet once and for all as AI comes online. They do not want our unrestrained power 1/
StarmineRendezvous
to counter their narratives and build our own networks in ways they cannot control. So they will lock internet access entirely without ID.2/
StarmineRendezvous
That way they can know who you are and attack you if you cross any of the lines they are drawing up. /3
FrogBotherer
This is not just the UK, this is happening across the world. The geopolitical goal here is to put an end to anonymity online, under the guise of protecting the delicate eyes of the little kiddies - and the scary thing is a lot of people are fine with this.
Imadethisaccounttopost
That was the point of it. The video discusses how it's already on the books on the US and the pic was to reinforce that.
DukeofKMS
That anonymity protects the myriads of Russian, Chinese an American misinformation agents, who want us to vote against our own interests, here in EU. That’s my take on it.
bohjeenie
Who definitely won’t still utilize a vpn or botnet proxies from compromised computers…
Also, Google still has comment bots posting CP on legitimate content for fucks sake.
cuddleskunk
If that's your take on it, you need to actually review history and get a new take.
DukeofKMS
That’s not a compelling argument. You guys sound to me like those gun nuts who tell me “bad guys always get the gun” to avoid stricter gun laws.
cuddleskunk
I never once mentioned guns...ever. Privacy and gun-ownership are not the same thing.
DukeofKMS
It’s just the same kind of point to me. And both parties argue against governmental oversight, so it seemed fitting
NairouTryyshokk
It absolutely will NOT stop misinformation online. Already, people have fooled these "3rd party verification" systems using AI and other tools. You really think that someone with ill intent will stop because its illegal? Its as stupid as thinking banning trans people from bathrooms will stop rapists.
malakim
Ah yes, the "i have nothing to hide" argument. But you might have something to hide if someone you don't agree to wins the elections.
DukeofKMS
No, the argument is, that I don’t believe in absolute freedom. There need to be rules. Rules like: don’t use billions of dollars or Rubels to influence our weak minded to upend democracy
DukeofKMS
A surrounding without rules or consequences over a longer period of time will always lead to the rich and powerful dominating that space. I preference to have a hand in that process, by electing those powerful. I do not want Peter Thiel or Musk in that position.
casualgenderquestion2718
Yes, OUR privacy invasion laws did a very good job of preventing that, as you can tell.
DukeofKMS
We have real politicians here, no paid actors. Not as bad at least. Here we pay our politicians, not some company. Something like super pacs are rightfully considered corruption and undue influence. So I hope it goes like EU forcing Apple to do things.
casualgenderquestion2718
Maybe it’s just because we’re a few more miles down the shit creek than you guys are at the moment, so the water’s still clear up there, but trust me buddy, this isn’t where it ends, this is where it starts.
Affray
1)Your local government decides it's legal to enter every single home in your neighbourhood at any time without notice just to check in and
Affray
2)rummage through your stuff to make sure you don't have anything that might hurt kids. Do you allow your rights to be decimated because it
Affray
3)makes hiding more difficult for the actual bad people three doors down?
DukeofKMS
That’s the same simple argument, the gun nuts use. It’s bs. If it’s more difficult to spread lies, less lies will be spread.
DukeofKMS
I trust my government more than yours or Putin or Xi Jingping. I want my Country and EU able to defend against Musk, Bannon or Putin. They actively attack our democracies.
Affray
I'm not American, and if you trust your government because other country's governments are worse then you've got a few rude awakenings in your future. Take a step back and really ask yourself what it means to have every bit of information filtered through a government body before it gets to you and you get what they deem safe or appropriate for you. Every bit of your personal info is also available and up for sale. There's whole dystopias that are framed like this.
NomDeImguerre
Why, though? What is there left to defend against, if in your 'fight' against these people, you're accomplishing their very agenda?
camn333
Ummm... why is there a Mario Kart video on top of the guy? What does it have to do with any of the information being shared?
GasBandit
I long for the day where someone under 25 sends me a video that isn't a guy talking over AI generated Minecraft Parkour videos
specicom
It's quite distracting and honestly stress-inducing. Like, there's 4 information sources in that one video.
sometimesifeellikeanut
UK is also putting age verification on Mario Kart because multiple character's don't wear any clothes and it got flagged for nudity. /s
SubTrout
Like I hate to be "old man yells at cloud" but I'm pretty sure it's crafted to appeal to what gen alpha watches, because those poor kids are having their attention spans destroyed by the absolute carpet bombing of nonstop instant gratification content where they have to be keyed into 3 forms of media at all waking hours.
JackieTreehornProductions
5 minutes is an eternity to kids now. Teachers have to employ sounds and power ups in their lessons just to keep kids engaged. It’s sad really
SubTrout
I don't even blame the kids, they're victims to what they're given to grow up with and everything is trying to target their dopamine centers to ruin them for life to try and get them addicted to content.
JackieTreehornProductions
It's squarely on the parents for not limiting the amount of screen/game time early on and establishing boundaries and time limits. Our pediatrician and family doctor both warned us repeatedly that there's a direct relationship between brain development, poor behaviors, and screen time until they're 10 years old at least. We still don't limit it to the 1 hour recommended per day but we don't let them go 4+ hours at a time without doing something else like art, sports, bike rides, etc
Helixninja333
User retention because some people believe that you have to jiggle keys in front of people to pay attention... Sad part is it works. One 'fun' game I like to play is whenever watching a shitty video that's somehow popular, count how many seconds between each time the camera angle switches or when the video was cut ahead. From my rough estimate, it's on average 2 seconds per shot.
meme2zombie
One thing with that is that current AI video generators can't do longer than 10 seconds, so that'll only get more common.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Both this and the constant shot switching work the opposite on me, the second I see this shit I will click away, in this case I already know the topic so no need to watch it. On youtube I will select to not recommend the channel or similar content in future and remove it from my watch history. Same with clearly AI gen bullshit, clickbaity trash, and so on. they can do what they like to reach their target audience, but that clearly isn't me.
SomeDetroitGuy
We tried to do this in the US back during the Clinton Administration. SCOTUS decided it was illegal censorship. We tried it again during the W Administration. SCOTUS decided it was illegal censorship. This is being pushed explicitly to hurt trans kids. It's a censorship act designed to help conservatives wipe out trans kids. It also will give power to the government to censor information it doesn't like.
Imadethisaccounttopost
The issue is they keep trying, and eventually it may take.
It has to be fought back against everytime
ToSisPoS
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ToSisPoS
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LanceSackless
How does this hurt trans kids especially? Maybe its bc i just woke ip but i cant figure out how it hits them worse
LuminoZero
When your very existence is ‘sexual’ to these people.
Do you think kids will be able to look for trans support, or will it be censored for being sexual in nature?
Or worse, the facial ID outting them to their family/neighbors?
ThatJerkOnTheInternet
You did not answer the question though, I agree with you that it will be used for this, its not the core purpose as suggested by by OP. We need to be careful about diluting our own arguments and weakening our own positions. The goal is so the establishment (either government or corporate) to dictate what we can say and think, and eliminate any desention. Period.
Nanoline
So, as an example, when Mastercard/Visa forced Itch.io to delist all “adult” content, it included any and all trans content - including non-sexual content. In the US, multiple anti-trans laws have been passed in red states on the basis of “protecting children from adult content”. The people pushing these policies are explicitly tying being trans (or LGBT+ in general) to “adult” content and broadly censoring access as a result.
ToSisPoS
So for example, a game like Celeste, which just happens to feature a trans woman as the protagonist but it’s just an insanely hard mountain climbing platformer would get banned.
fillerbunny9
Huh. I never got far enough to get that reveal. Or I’m oblivious. Or both -_-
ToSisPoS
It was an off-hand reveal (pills in the nightstand, trans pride flag on the wall) in the epilogue on the hard-like-an-NES add-on Farewell.
Like how you might note someone is left handed or has brown eyes.