Re the 10 commandments: No other gods/graven image? Check (gold/money) Name in vain? Check (see above). Steal? Check. Adultery? Big time check. False witness? Check. Covet stuff? Check (Peace Prize, etc.) Covet wife? Check. Sabbath? Check. (Easter rant) That only leaves honoring mom/dad (Don't know his relationship with them) and not killing (release the Epstein files!). He's *almost* got 'em all
Every damn religion and denomination out there blesses weapons and ammunition, not just in wartime. All of them. While I am on the side of the pope in this current debacle, this is really disingenuous. Then again, religion, disingenuous. Tomayto, tomahto.
Good on them for not siding with fascism a second time. We can respect the ability to learn from mistakes, if nothing else. I would prefer he spoke more plainly and said things like: Deportation is sin. Work requirements for the hungry is sin. "Thoughts and Prayers" is the literal Biblical definition of dead faith. Public displays of prayer are hypocrisy.
If you don’t join/follow a religion and believe in magic sky overlords you’ll be less susceptible to manipulation since you’re already being manipulated by that religion =P
You did say Less, and that's what I was disagreeing with. I find belief just gives people more tools for manipulation, but it doesn't affect the difficulty of manipulation at all. People are just really easy to manipulate across the board.
You know, the thing that made me start questioning, looking into things and ultimately leaving catholicism was realizing that they use their "spiritual" position of authority to push earthly political agendas that don't reflect the truths of reality an all knowing god supposedly inspiring them should know. So I guess +1 for calling someone out correctly but -7 for having the same problem themselves. Like genuinely appreciated, but boy could they do with some introspection.
it's hilarious how the Trump administration can't deflect the criticism from the Roman Catholics simply by saying "Stop raping children first, then we'll take your criticism"..,
From my biblical knowledge, God literally defines what's good and bad. That's not correct, in my opinion, but God orders plenty of bad shit. What I'm saying is the only way to know if someone is sinning in this way is to know that their conversation with God was, which there is no way to know if one even occurred.
The worst thing Trump has ever done is make me sympathize with the Catholic Church. Nah, j/k, it was the raping those kids. But this is still a bummer.
Nah. The vatican are the OG pederasts protectors. One of the most mysoginists institutions, and they like to exploit the poor. They always side with right wing politicians. What this person called "the pope" is doing, is just PR.
I was going more for the second half of "it takes one to know one." If the pope is calling someone out for weaponizing religion, they're definitely doing it.
WhiteyHead
Irony.
freemab
Right. They are taking the Lord’s name in vain with this warmongering bullshit.
Sinasohn
Re the 10 commandments: No other gods/graven image? Check (gold/money) Name in vain? Check (see above). Steal? Check. Adultery? Big time check. False witness? Check. Covet stuff? Check (Peace Prize, etc.) Covet wife? Check. Sabbath? Check. (Easter rant) That only leaves honoring mom/dad (Don't know his relationship with them) and not killing (release the Epstein files!). He's *almost* got 'em all
beaubrent
Catholics helped all this to happen. They own part of this.
Cearnaigh
Every damn religion and denomination out there blesses weapons and ammunition, not just in wartime. All of them. While I am on the side of the pope in this current debacle, this is really disingenuous. Then again, religion, disingenuous. Tomayto, tomahto.
MikeRInternetTraveler
It’s amazing how Trump is so, so shitty that he has gotten me rooting for Iran and the Catholic Church.
Patrone26
Yeah, but he's soft on crime. /s
duffman3335
Ok, but LET'S BE REAL, the Catholic Church has been doing that for FN CENTURIES.
SecretlyASquirrel
Unfortunate500
Good on them for not siding with fascism a second time. We can respect the ability to learn from mistakes, if nothing else.
I would prefer he spoke more plainly and said things like:
Deportation is sin.
Work requirements for the hungry is sin.
"Thoughts and Prayers" is the literal Biblical definition of dead faith.
Public displays of prayer are hypocrisy.
The stuff christians seem to have forgotten.
coderay
Let me translate that for you:
"Fuck you Trump, you're an asshole."
aeroldoth
A pope with some introspection?
Maviyakuku
This guy Popes alright.
Grinch01
Thats exactly what the catholic church did in the past....
datphone777365
Yeah sure, but lets not act as if the cults of abraham have commands for blood and violence from the very mythhead.
TheCunningLinguists
meowingintensifies
BlackCatSerenade99900
That's right Pope Leo, read that man to filth!!
xmaneds
"cameroon" ? ?
totallyruinedyourday
If you don’t join/follow a religion and believe in magic sky overlords you’ll be less susceptible to manipulation since you’re already being manipulated by that religion =P
QuartzPoker
I dunno, humans are pretty easy to manipulate no matter what they believe in
totallyruinedyourday
I did say ‘less’ and not immune to it. I get it tho, nuance can be hard.
QuartzPoker
You did say Less, and that's what I was disagreeing with. I find belief just gives people more tools for manipulation, but it doesn't affect the difficulty of manipulation at all. People are just really easy to manipulate across the board.
whereismymind86
Oh Leo, honey, I have bad news for you about religion in general.
whereismymind86
But also, love to see him fighting with Donnie
Ircy
You know, the thing that made me start questioning, looking into things and ultimately leaving catholicism was realizing that they use their "spiritual" position of authority to push earthly political agendas that don't reflect the truths of reality an all knowing god supposedly inspiring them should know. So I guess +1 for calling someone out correctly but -7 for having the same problem themselves. Like genuinely appreciated, but boy could they do with some introspection.
SubtleOrc
it's hilarious how the Trump administration can't deflect the criticism from the Roman Catholics simply by saying "Stop raping children first, then we'll take your criticism"..,
kowcatchan
The pope would just say "You first" and then they'd both laugh.
Mountons
... All the way to the bank. Scumbags.
yqpqfrdp625772
It’s literally what “taking the lords name in vain” means. It’s right up there with murder, as far as Christianity is concerned.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
YES I shout that shit from the rooftops! It’s absolutely not saying “oh my god” it’s doing bad shit and saying you’re doing it for god.
ATLandNerdy
This. I wish more Christians understood the book they proclaim to put son much stock in.
Photeus
From my biblical knowledge, God literally defines what's good and bad. That's not correct, in my opinion, but God orders plenty of bad shit.
What I'm saying is the only way to know if someone is sinning in this way is to know that their conversation with God was, which there is no way to know if one even occurred.
misterCT
Wut
GoSibi
Sure there is, you just have to acknowledge what is obvious, that it's all made up BS.
Jonson71
The worst thing Trump has ever done is make me sympathize with the Catholic Church. Nah, j/k, it was the raping those kids. But this is still a bummer.
MikeRInternetTraveler
And Iran, somehow.
The US has gotten so shitty that I’m rooting for Iran and the Vatican.
Photeus
This is the BAD PLACE!
meme2zombie
And I thought Disney was a low point.
MikeRInternetTraveler
Dude, I forgot all about that. Fucking DeSantis made me take Disney’s side, and I felt so dirty about it.
mafiacarstarter
Well, if you want to know about weaponizing religion, a Pope is a good person to ask.
SquashDemon
They know a thing or two about it, yeah.
MelfsAcidArrow
You can call out bad behavior while still doing it. Being a hypocrite doesn’t make what you say untrue, it just rings hollow
encrypteddecryption
My first thought was, hell yeah! My second was, wait, the Crusades.
awkungen42
Yep, they're the professionals.
BenderRodriguz1010
Im usually quick to point out the church's own atrocities but let him cook lol
Altqwenta
Nah. The vatican are the OG pederasts protectors. One of the most mysoginists institutions, and they like to exploit the poor. They always side with right wing politicians. What this person called "the pope" is doing, is just PR.
Photeus
He's the enemy of our enemy, but that doesn't mean he's your friend. The Catholic Church has a long time to go to earn any trust.
That said, let them fight.
mafiacarstarter
I was going more for the second half of "it takes one to know one."
If the pope is calling someone out for weaponizing religion, they're definitely doing it.
BenderRodriguz1010
Ah, ok lol. Truth
pareidoliaperson
Wasn't it so that the crusaders adapted religion into their agenda and not vice versa?
tentacularfleshscape
Snake sucking its own dick
nezo
Something something crusades
freemab
I think Leo was born a bit after those were over. Not sure, maybe he is 700 years old?!
duffman3335
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
Swedishbouldering
I'm against all religions but even i think it's been a bit too long since the crusades to keep the modern church responsible
whereismymind86
What about all the sexual abuse of children then? Cause that’s ongoing.
Swedishbouldering
Yupp that is disgusting and unforgivable, but that wasn't what I commented on, was it?🤔