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Apr 4, 2022 3:56 AM
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JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
Yeah... these aliens are smug, mass-murdering psycho assholes. Like, God in the Old Testament level.
MrGravity
My main issue, there is no civilization capable of intersteller travel that isn't also capable of whatever that guy apparently couldnt see.
megatots
Too preachy and basic
FujiJustin
Is this not the eternals
Obnoxious
"I have friends" No, you don't, not really" Oh where making this personal, is that what we're doing today ?
Orangeracecar
I don’t think we are the worst. I wouldn’t give us so much credit. We are probably middling bad. we are probably boring
lemonstein
Mostly harmless
RemyTheRed
This could have been an episode of the twilight zone
WhocanTucan
Determining an entire species fate on the choice of one specimens choice isn't really logical or enlightened. Just edge lord.
SaFalken
I'm 12 and this is deep
Bathroomboy
pretty much.
yepwatermelon
Cool, but I'm so tired of the "human race best race" circle jerking in Scifi.
tinyCabbage
collective punishment is a war crime, and for good reason.
DoctorSniffles
Can I not feel like selling out the planet but also be an auditor? Like is this an either or thing? Cuz.... that looks sick.
CoinedWatcher
No, you have to choose, that's the point. Life better than you can possibly imagine or die for a world of people you don't know...
BingleyBingleyBeep
The life you get to live is constantly pretending to be the lowest of the low, never able to revel in your power and having no roots.
Lichelf
He didn't say it was constant or anything. Maybe they only work a few months a year. Or maybe they do other stuff too.
squidiom
Thus eliminating 100% of the negative consequences (for you) by choosing to save your shitty species? Sure, we'll throw in a pony too.
IThoughtThisThought
Weakest still being a white man in the US apparently. Not a black/brown man in the south, a girl in India, China, or the Middle East.
fiddlewheelx
Well he shouldn't have tested the entirety of humanity on America.
Imadethisaccounttopost
He needs more than just one sample, easily.
TstgKirby
There is a third way . Get TRUMP to negotiate...
KilliK69
terrible comic
gerbele
Where's the space cash?
3Davideo
Their society might not work like that.
Snaggolicious
Been on my fave list for a few years now.
TanzaniteStar
SirRichfield
HIT IT!
corvettee01
You guys are shit, but I've caused the complete genocide of more than five thousand planets. Not a good moral.
twistysoup
Why do the cops lips turn black right before the end?
porcinechoirmaster
That's his open mouth. The faint line isn't gloss from lips, it's his lower teeth.
bokchoyenthusiast
Pretty sure that’s just his open mouth?
DarkHourse
I don’t think humans are terrible, but I do think it terribly sad that so many people think that. Humans inspire me, not animals or aliens.
RyanH42
Why? We're absolute garbage.
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
Agreed, with the exception of the Pistol Shrimp, I too want to punch so hard I generate heat hotter than the sun.
damogen
That is partly the point of the comic. We have potential to be so much better than some of the shit currently going on.
rubypilgrim
idk, a lot of animals inspire me. After all, humans are animals.
KiwiGameDev
I dunno, the concept that the depths of “I don’t wanna kill people with authoritative power” being some unique trait reeks of the same
KiwiGameDev
thinking that leaves people thinking being polite makes someone entitled to a partner
Gorgrim
Oh yes, the "humans are the absolute worse, but also uniquely absolutely the best, aren't we so special" comic.
damogen
I had to come back and reply again, it just dawned on me that humans actually aren't special in this comic. Many are worse than us and many
damogen
are better. The only special thing about us here is that we are right on the border of the two groups. Which is just good for story telling
Gorgrim
"I've done this for thousands of years, your kind are the worse I've ever encountered", and we're the only one to pass the test...
Gorgrim
that is what I mean, we're apparently the worst (good job he didn't show up during WW2), but still good enough for self sacrifice.
damogen
I’m assuming there are many tests, this being the last. So we are the only ones who passed this specific test. Not the only to pass overall
damogen
It's a good trope for an artist who wants to convey the contrast between the shitty stuff going on and our potential to be better.
RyanH42
That's cute, you think we have potential.
DrunkenDaveIsDrunk
It's kinda sad you can't see that we do.
Gorgrim
I just feel there are better ways to show the highs and lows of humanity than making us "unique" like this. And this implies every >
damogen
There are other ways to show that. I would say that almost every other story trope does this.
Gorgrim
other species is homogenous. Things like racism has roots from the idea "all X are Y", homogenising a race to justify hate against them.
TheSwedishCryptid
I think there was a story on HFY that was basically that. Every other species that could do space travel just perfected genocide 1/2
TheSwedishCryptid
While humans never perfected it, so we still weren't a homgenous species thus we still had clash with others. 2/2
damogen
We are going way off topic, but actually, while racism has always existed, it was only really weaponized in the 15-1600's because of the
damogen
combination of a huge need for slaves in the Americas, Native Americans dying in huge numbers due to decease, which made them bad slaves
ahorseelbowdeepinme
As long as we're posting weird comics...
TicklishOwl
I was expecting this hole, that was made for me!
D4rkmatter
Not many things surprise me anymore. I did not see that coming at all lmao
NotABrit
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cancerriddenlung
lol
LocalZoophile
Imgur mobile broke reading these types of posts, so I had to download it. Was worth it!
NZSheeps
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Oh yeah
Raileks
that was a long trip for that joke and it was worth every second.
Raileks
y is there no way to favorite comments?
LyraTheLycan
Holy crap
3Davideo
98% SCP, 2% wut
ahorseelbowdeepinme
3Davideo
Doctor Bright! Get off that man's face immediately!
LyraTheLycan
Mf you think I can tap four pixel wide images on mobile? Jk. I'll get this somehow
iCurse
Yeah lmao I want to read it but can't click it with my fat fingers
ahorseelbowdeepinme
http://i.imgur.com/I4iEsoE
ahorseelbowdeepinme
http://i.imgur.com/I4iEsoE
zim57398
"Your species is the worst, so we're gonna kill you all because we're just so enlightened and can't stand how terrible you are."
iSoul95
I mean, I would.
TinyLiehon
To be tolerant means that intolerant people cannot be tolerated. It's a paradox but it's necessary to keep the social contract going.
shaunofthedab
Exactly. But maybe that was a lie. They could still test us without killing us. Could just be a thought experiment used as a test.
Kelerain
Lotta dead bodies in that room for a thought experiment.
montyman185
Easily fakable, or revivable with that level of tech.
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
This is the comment that crops up each time this comic is posted and I can't help but agree each time.
Ruhig
Right? This whole comic is such a poorly thought concept. IDK why everyone's always so mindblown by it.
GozerTheGozerian
Same. It just reads as some edgelord's pseudo-philosophy nonsense to me. I don't get what's meant to be impressive about it.
Vladraconis
The exact same logic behind killing weeds to help your crops grow better. It's was never about tolerance. Just about the best crops.
EarthDragon2189
"Also, the guy we're sending to judge you sold his own planet up the river to get this job"
DickeyBirdie
Angels/gods come to town dressed as beggars, then passing out judgement, is a very old trope.
OneTrueGif
Well, you don't let a virus spread, you snuff if out... So...
eggmuffin
"Also, there is a universal community, but no one has passed the test to be a part of it." So... no community, then?
Raghvald
He's one of many arbiters. And nobody passed the test on his watch.
feedthelynx
Reread, condemned planets haven't passed the test under that specific auditor
JustSomePersonThere
You say that like if you’ve uncovered some kind of gotcha
keereweet
Fair
Lugh314159
YEah... the whole thing is basically Q at Farpoint. At least he was just fucking around.
KilliK69
or the aliens from The Abyss
SchlappaDaBass
I mean... Q wasn't wrong.
Heavenissize17socks
Q showed Picard the Borg so the Federation would be better prepared.
ThomasThundersword
thank you for that comment because i honest to god forgot about startrek for a minute and was wondering what the new QAnnon BS was today.
Styxwash
I thought the Borg discovered human kind because of Q. At least Picard says that at one point.
akefay
When they first encountered the Borg, they commented that the destruction matches the destroyed Federation/Romulan outposts from Season 1.
PraiseThePook
Q said humanity was going to encounter the Borg in the distant future. By sending Picard to their region of space he initiated that early.
Styxwash
Exactly.
oxbloodoxfords
Sucks that aliens always seem to pass judgement based on murica. Wish for once they'd land in one of the better European countries to judge.
Shpadoinkleman
A M E R I C A B A D
CanIPetThatDog
*laughs in british & french aristocracy*
CanIPetThatDog
*but generally agrees in norwegian and swedish*
soulestialmoon
I mean…this scenario could literally be anywhere though tbh.
GendouLovesDucklings
I mean, as long as you're white.
AssaultKommando
Hate to break it to ya bud.
TheSupremeCrabMaster
In their defense, ALL nations are guilty of treating their lowest like trash. There's not a single country the Auditor would land in 1/
TheSupremeCrabMaster
that, after spending time among enough people to actually make a sound decision, would change his mind. The Auditor is right--wiping 2/
TheSupremeCrabMaster
humanity out is the logical solution to the threat it poses to others, but maybe-MAYBE-we can be redeemed.
TinyLiehon
Sweden? Norwegia?
TheSupremeCrabMaster
Them too.
SherMattLockSmith
Never got genocide out of it, just forced isolation.
damogen
It specifically says he will kill all humans
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SherMattLockSmith
Other than that, it just suggests being "dealt with".
SherMattLockSmith
Okay, it doesn't really. It gives him the opportunity to live thousands of years, so "leave them behind and let them die" doesn't mean (1)
SherMattLockSmith
(2) That they are to be murdered. Other than that it just suggests that particularly heinous societies must be "dealt with", that does...
SherMattLockSmith
(3) Not mean genocide to me, just forced isolation as a species with this power would be able to prevent any spacefaring progress.
damogen
before that. "What do you want?" "To kill everyone on this planet, well not everyone, just you humans"
TinyOctopusWasHere
The auditor just says that's what he wants to do. Not that he'd actually do it. Tiny Octopus thinks that auditors don't get mad, they just
TinyOctopusWasHere
enforce a no-contact cordon around the solar system of the species and keeps an eye on them. Maybe not, but that's what tiny octopus hopes.
keereweet
Maybe if we wouldn't kill 95% of life on this planet they would leave us alone but at this point we had our chanse
ThomasThundersword
maybe, but then why not induct the guy with hope for the species. that would be a good indicator of a pass and a good candidate.
damogen
If they want our civilization to improve, they can't remove the best of us.
ThomasThundersword
fair point.
dblaikie
Reminds me of "they're made out of meat" - step they're entry from the database, record the planet as lifeless
DukeDarkwood
Thinking meat? Singing meat?
dblaikie
Loving meat!
Raghvald
Few weeks ago Nasa discovered a bubble around our solar system... https://youtu.be/At7ORzmAaT4
ForTheBestReally
This is a really interesting video but the phenomena it describes has been known for a while actually. The video is only 2 weeks old tho.
damogen
Eh, It’s just the tolerance paradox with a bigger scope. In order to have a tolerant society you have to be intolerant towards intolerance
PalaverQuader
i mean that idea up there has been done several times now. and usually its "race X that cant do space travel to meet other species" >
PalaverQuader
and thus they isolate themselves IF they dont evolve beyond that point. thats why u dont have to "deal" with anyone. their own "toxicity" >
PalaverQuader
is what hinders them to evolve enuff to tackle "proper" space flight. so the auditor aint got to kill nobody to prevent contact.
damogen
You assume that technological development is directly coupled with social development, which just isn't true.
ThomasThundersword
true, but with more power, and clearly an insanely long time span to work with. this is more applying the tolerance paradox to an edgy 13 >
ThomasThundersword
year old, with the same degree of consequence as you would to a 27 year old. you need to teach them it’s wrong, keep them from harming >
ThomasThundersword
anyone while they grow up, and give them a chance as the children they are. unlike the 27 year old, and adult who you eliminate.
damogen
you are forgetting that we are talking about species, not individuals. If an entire species shows they are incapable of improvement then
notacobra
The tolerance paradox, in turn, is eugenics with extra steps "remove the bad people because we know better".
damogen
That is not remotely true. Intolerance is a behavior you can choose to stop. So the intolerance paradox judges your behavior not your genes.
GadenKerensky
And consequence. The tolerance paradox does NOT call for the killing of the intolerant.
damogen
fair point, but I guess they apply it differently when it is an entire species that is deemed to be intolerant.
Mystify89
Judging an entire group based on the actions of a few is textbook predijuce.
damogen
True, but I understand it like this is the last test of many, and we only had to pass one of them.
sophware
I've been thinking since 2015 what I would do if I had unlimited power. I'd change humans. Nothing in us that is good makes up for the 1/
sophware
bad we do. I'd give up all works of art and music, scientific accomplishments, and any joy just to undo the rape of 3 girls by 70 2/
sophware
soldiers last week. Going to the Holocaust and other genocides isn't necessary. Any Auditor that would matter would imprison us humanely.
notacobra
You have a little mind, poisoned by the morality of little lives. You can't prevent suffering, undoing a race to stop one instance is folly