Apr 12, 2019 2:32 PM
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thewordofthedayis
Impressive! But also my back hurts from just watching that :(
VaudevillianV
So is noone going to comment about this guys aim? I miss a nail with a hammer from inches and spend the next 10 minutes cussing at my finger
Metall3x
*Peter Gabriel intensifies*
goflyblind
shock the monkey!
wednesdayaddled
10/10 would have this guy bat clean-up on my Zombie Apocalypse team.
trickkyy
Even if you could keep this rate up for 6 hours a day, everyday, the cost is transfered from the company, to your body being worn out 1/2
By the time you are 45.
Beltneck
They both have different purposes tho. Thats like comparing a tractor to a racecar.
TargetedAdBot
And create huge bump if you miss
JeremyPeevin
Looks like you won this round John Henry.
brizzlevizzle
... just this round
Esaushere
Jackhammer dude also has to continuously stop and move cause sledgehammer dude isn't watching where he's swinging.
xdvgx
That's the dumb/exhausting way to use a sledgehammer. You want your arms apart at the top of the swing, sliding to the end at the bottom.
TheHumanCentipad
You´re right! Well at least he´s not holding it mid handle like so many others.
Floridaguysmyfirstcousin
I worked with a wielder who could swing a 20 lb'er with that kind of accuracy. He would make a hit. Then windmill it with one hand till the/
Top of the arch and make a hit. Use the momentum and go again. Could about 30-40 swings before he would start getting glancing blows.
CaptainNemo10
Yeah but who's going to hurt more the following day?
DDud
Which one is the 60 minute man?
ColBigBoss
Those are some wide swings for someone in manslaughter range.
Barrum
1/Remember that time they did scythe vs weed wacker and it looked really convincing until you remembered that the wacker wasn't designed
2/to mow lawns? Then all of a sudden you realized the scythe was garbage compared to modern lawn mowers. This has the same energy
epicjim
Me vs. my girlfriend's vibrator.
ThicclikePaulBunyan
...so you do the high frequency weak shit and she have a hard knocking vibrator?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMvUIClzHSs
That´s not a vibrator then but called a fuck machine. Look it up.
Is this going to be a deck for Transformers? Those planks and especially the nails seem a bit overkill. Imagine having to deconstruct this.
painfullybored
John Henry!
beedoubleuthree
Peter Gabriel > Bill Goldberg
BaltimorePolice
Imagine if he missed
Hypoxicith
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
You vs. the guy she told you not to worry about.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Nice, but whose arms are gonna fall off in an hour?
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
Jackhammer dude. Vibrations are a killer.
chrishallett83
An hour? Sledgehammer guy tries to keep that up non-stop, he'll be barfing his guts out in like 10-15 minutes, tops.
AnalCrusader7
I’m more impressed with his aiming
smally1986
That other bloke trusts him more than I do
Kaplar
Same. It's faster but, if you miss, you have broken boards and bent nails that would take more time than using an automatic tool.
bolobass
Sledge also fucked up the floorboards here and there.
UComeFirst
My guess is that’s the underlayment anyway. Won’t be seen. The hammering is only part of a larger job. Not 8hrs per day.
Odb718
and if he bends one, there's no straightening it out
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
yeah someone needs to hold it in place imo
Shiznit007
The guy using the machine doesn't really seem like he's trying to move very fast. And hammering like that will physically ruin your back
thetonestarr
Jackhammer guy 100% isn't operating the machine with any sense of urgency or skill.
greach
Yeaaahhh swinging that a bit too close for my comfort
Thisismyusernamenotyoursitsmine
Head
Drunkpunch
John Henry
Atomic2
Yes, but he dies at the end from stress. I'd call that a victory for mechanization.
dancinginthecar
‘s pappy woke him up one midnight He said "Before the sheriff comes I wanna tell you..”
Listen boy, learn to hoist a jack, learn to lay a track, learn to pick and shovel too and take that hammer, It'll do anything you tell it to
Elroydb
John Henry's mammy's had about a dozen babies, John Henry's pappy broke jail bout a dozen times
And when the babies all got sick and the doctor asked for money, he said ‘I’ll pay you a quarter at a time. It’s a pay for a steel driver on
ImHereToAssNamesAndTakeKicks
HughLaurie
was a steel drivin' man...
thegraphiteknight
My first thought. Yup
anjorni
Far more relevant than my initial reaction of paul bunyon
Fidgiggity
John Henry said to the Captain "But by god I ain't no fool. Before I die, with a hammer in my hand i'm gonna get me steam drill too!"
slothinaspoop
Damn you beat me to it
Roehcai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zjsY-aIlag
AsheLake
https://youtu.be/BZGxZbOB1Eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJC5IZ7GiQ
celexsdraconia11
Beat me to it
Angel666Hawk
When John Henry was just a little baby. Sittin on his Daddy's Knee. Well he said goodbye with a lonesome cry and said (1)
HannibalPoopsPeople
“His daddy picked him up, threw him on the floor and said this baby done wet on me!”
"I'll die with a hammer in my hand."
EntropyReign
Anybody remember the movie Tall Tale? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaSsEppI0Mo
One of my all time favorite movies when I was a kid
secondgoaround
Yup!
AssholesFullofElbows
and only 3000% more energy burned
ShiftyTheChangeling
Not that there's anything too wrong with the technique used here, but if you move your upper hand to directly below the head, toss it above—
—your head while sliding your hand back down to your other, then let the weight of the hammer do all the work, you can go a lot longer.
BDD85
Yeah but compare actual output. I'd say the "eta" is on par.
η <-- eta (couldn't remember the unicode for it)
HeresShaco
Well the sledge hammer did do 7 more nails so yea he expended more if you use the jack for 8 of them your arms are gonna be hurting more
soopertramp
capitalism dont care...you can burn up employees and get new ones..electricity is more expensive
HenryLongfellowIII
Electricity is cheaper than food.
DarklordDemise
And increased back issues
kriigern
You get the muscles you need for the job you do... No matter what.
TheRelevancyOfMyNameIsRelativelyIrrelevant
crossfit vs regular workout.
Trebior
technically the jackhammer burns electrical energy which I if its kj measurement would be higher.
SuckAFuck
BlueEyedDominus
Thenameideserved
technically the jackhammer doesn't burn any energy.
SolutionCat
Damn our hyper efficient bodies!
kamkor1
So your saying less work done for more power used
IAmASentientWaffle
you're*
drunkenpicklejympeer
I bet you are fun at parties
The implication was human energy, however you are technically correct as the jack hammer probably runs about 12 amps FLA
ImGoingToEatAllYourApples
usernamepolice
Human energy is replenishable with fairly highly available resources (thanks to gmos weather u like em or not) but electrical energy is 1/2
A bit more costly for many reasons. So he does make a fair point (not that u don't, just adding) 2/2
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Sledgehammer might be faster. But try doing that for 30 years - I guarantee you'll regret choosing the sledgehammer over the jackhammer.
GrampaJack
30 years? 30 hours more like.
Anyone can endure any job for 30 hours. 30 years? Quite the difference.
changerofways9
30 years working a jackhammer and your body will be fucked too. Probably waaaaay worse.
remnant55
Not disagreeing, but I worked with a guy who was a jackhammer operator for a few decades. His knees were so bad he wouldn't sit on breaks.
It'd be 30 years before that jackhammer finished this floor.
AwardWinningName
Also I've used those electric jack hammers and they are garbage. The gas powered ones have like 4 times the strength
RonniRambo
it depends what model you buy.. :/
genericname2107
For sure. I've got that exact setup, 66 lbs Bosch electric with a pin driver. Do it all day and you're fine, but the sledge guy is dead.
Lucky1130
If you do it for 1 year your arms will be buffed af.
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
I've installed machinery at a truck engine damper factory. The guys there had big arms.
HumansArePrettyNeat
I have "excessive forearm muscle tone" and it causes chronic pain in my wrists and forearms.
Peterowski
That'd because a part of your brain or spine isn't working right, not because you used manual tools (unless you used them to hit your head)
Cranial trauma, sclerosis and a handful of Neural diseases cause hipertonia.
Hypertonia is a condition that can cause abnormally increased muscle tone. I have muscle tone that is consistent with the amount I use them.
Raditz25
Those vibrations do quite the damage to your nerves and bones over time. They both have thier downsides.
Acegammer5
Hard, jarring impacts have also been known to cause nerve damage.
Ruthknits3
And what about vibrating your brain half to death?
My point was more of "Doing either for 30 years have major problems." than a defense of the jackhammer, but whatever.
SortOfAnEngineerNow
You can get clever little gadgets installed to tools now that tell you when to stop using them to avoid white finger.
SergeantSalsa
Also the newer ones have better shock absorbers
Pseudosim
They eventually wear out though, and then you have bosses that dont want to replace or repair them. (personal experience)
Sad to hear that, that kind of willful ignorance makes my blood boil. Is that in the US? In UK health and safety is very thorough these days
404fuk
Have you used a jack hammer....... I would choose to be the forman. Much better and better pay
If any choice is valid I'd just choose to be a billionaire and hire people to work instead of myself... But that's cheating in this context.
Dekkonot
"Given the choice between a cashier and a clerk, I would choose to be a manager."
astinus
Of those three, CEO is better
Or maybe just majority stock holder?
spectheintro
Well, to be fair, his form isn't great either. Swinging a sledge is just like swinging an axe--he should be coming full overhead and (1/2)
chopping down his center line, and using his posterior chain to add power during the down swing. If you swing that way, you're in a (2/3)
biomechanically advantageous position, and accrue the least wear-and-tear on your joints. You're still going to put your body through (3/4)
the ringer, but hey, everyone's gonna fall apart eventually. (4)
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Do workers train for this anywhere?
LongboardLiam
I like that outlook. I'd like to live for a while, but fuck if being 90 doesn't look like more hassle than it is worth.
Blacksandman
It is probably true, but in this situation, I think that move would've sent the other one in a nearby hospital
Subaruislife
Both suck. Go to college kids.
intjdude
College is okay, but better laws for worker health and safety would be good too.
True. I really don't see how anyone could manage the dust and heat though. Machinery can only bridge so much of the gap.
hines7848
Yeah, be stuck in debt, working at a job you hate. Please matriculate at a place of higher education.
College is free in my country. We get paid to go to school.
At the very least, learn a trade. I've been swinging a hammer for four years and it sucks, especially when it's 90 and humid out.
Nail gun?
Literally a 10 pound hammer or 68 pound jackhammer. Both suck.
thewordofthedayis
Impressive! But also my back hurts from just watching that :(
VaudevillianV
So is noone going to comment about this guys aim? I miss a nail with a hammer from inches and spend the next 10 minutes cussing at my finger
Metall3x
*Peter Gabriel intensifies*
goflyblind
shock the monkey!
wednesdayaddled
10/10 would have this guy bat clean-up on my Zombie Apocalypse team.
trickkyy
Even if you could keep this rate up for 6 hours a day, everyday, the cost is transfered from the company, to your body being worn out 1/2
trickkyy
By the time you are 45.
Beltneck
They both have different purposes tho. Thats like comparing a tractor to a racecar.
TargetedAdBot
And create huge bump if you miss
JeremyPeevin
Looks like you won this round John Henry.
brizzlevizzle
... just this round
Esaushere
Jackhammer dude also has to continuously stop and move cause sledgehammer dude isn't watching where he's swinging.
xdvgx
That's the dumb/exhausting way to use a sledgehammer. You want your arms apart at the top of the swing, sliding to the end at the bottom.
TheHumanCentipad
You´re right! Well at least he´s not holding it mid handle like so many others.
Floridaguysmyfirstcousin
I worked with a wielder who could swing a 20 lb'er with that kind of accuracy. He would make a hit. Then windmill it with one hand till the/
Floridaguysmyfirstcousin
Top of the arch and make a hit. Use the momentum and go again. Could about 30-40 swings before he would start getting glancing blows.
CaptainNemo10
Yeah but who's going to hurt more the following day?
DDud
Which one is the 60 minute man?
ColBigBoss
Those are some wide swings for someone in manslaughter range.
Barrum
1/Remember that time they did scythe vs weed wacker and it looked really convincing until you remembered that the wacker wasn't designed
Barrum
2/to mow lawns? Then all of a sudden you realized the scythe was garbage compared to modern lawn mowers. This has the same energy
epicjim
Me vs. my girlfriend's vibrator.
ThicclikePaulBunyan
...so you do the high frequency weak shit and she have a hard knocking vibrator?
epicjim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMvUIClzHSs
TheHumanCentipad
That´s not a vibrator then but called a fuck machine. Look it up.
TheHumanCentipad
Is this going to be a deck for Transformers? Those planks and especially the nails seem a bit overkill. Imagine having to deconstruct this.
painfullybored
John Henry!
beedoubleuthree
Peter Gabriel > Bill Goldberg
BaltimorePolice
Imagine if he missed
Hypoxicith
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
You vs. the guy she told you not to worry about.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Nice, but whose arms are gonna fall off in an hour?
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
Jackhammer dude. Vibrations are a killer.
chrishallett83
An hour? Sledgehammer guy tries to keep that up non-stop, he'll be barfing his guts out in like 10-15 minutes, tops.
AnalCrusader7
I’m more impressed with his aiming
smally1986
That other bloke trusts him more than I do
Kaplar
Same. It's faster but, if you miss, you have broken boards and bent nails that would take more time than using an automatic tool.
bolobass
Sledge also fucked up the floorboards here and there.
UComeFirst
My guess is that’s the underlayment anyway. Won’t be seen. The hammering is only part of a larger job. Not 8hrs per day.
Odb718
and if he bends one, there's no straightening it out
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
yeah someone needs to hold it in place imo
Shiznit007
The guy using the machine doesn't really seem like he's trying to move very fast. And hammering like that will physically ruin your back
thetonestarr
thetonestarr
Jackhammer guy 100% isn't operating the machine with any sense of urgency or skill.
greach
Yeaaahhh swinging that a bit too close for my comfort
Thisismyusernamenotyoursitsmine
Head
Drunkpunch
John Henry
Atomic2
Yes, but he dies at the end from stress. I'd call that a victory for mechanization.
dancinginthecar
‘s pappy woke him up one midnight He said "Before the sheriff comes I wanna tell you..”
dancinginthecar
Listen boy, learn to hoist a jack, learn to lay a track, learn to pick and shovel too and take that hammer, It'll do anything you tell it to
Elroydb
John Henry's mammy's had about a dozen babies, John Henry's pappy broke jail bout a dozen times
dancinginthecar
And when the babies all got sick and the doctor asked for money, he said ‘I’ll pay you a quarter at a time. It’s a pay for a steel driver on
ImHereToAssNamesAndTakeKicks
HughLaurie
was a steel drivin' man...
thegraphiteknight
My first thought. Yup
anjorni
Far more relevant than my initial reaction of paul bunyon
Fidgiggity
John Henry said to the Captain "But by god I ain't no fool. Before I die, with a hammer in my hand i'm gonna get me steam drill too!"
slothinaspoop
Damn you beat me to it
Roehcai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zjsY-aIlag
AsheLake
https://youtu.be/BZGxZbOB1Eo
Fidgiggity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJC5IZ7GiQ
celexsdraconia11
Beat me to it
Angel666Hawk
When John Henry was just a little baby. Sittin on his Daddy's Knee. Well he said goodbye with a lonesome cry and said (1)
HannibalPoopsPeople
“His daddy picked him up, threw him on the floor and said this baby done wet on me!”
Angel666Hawk
"I'll die with a hammer in my hand."
EntropyReign
Anybody remember the movie Tall Tale? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaSsEppI0Mo
Drunkpunch
One of my all time favorite movies when I was a kid
secondgoaround
Yup!
AssholesFullofElbows
and only 3000% more energy burned
ShiftyTheChangeling
Not that there's anything too wrong with the technique used here, but if you move your upper hand to directly below the head, toss it above—
ShiftyTheChangeling
—your head while sliding your hand back down to your other, then let the weight of the hammer do all the work, you can go a lot longer.
BDD85
Yeah but compare actual output. I'd say the "eta" is on par.
BDD85
η <-- eta (couldn't remember the unicode for it)
HeresShaco
Well the sledge hammer did do 7 more nails so yea he expended more if you use the jack for 8 of them your arms are gonna be hurting more
soopertramp
capitalism dont care...you can burn up employees and get new ones..electricity is more expensive
HenryLongfellowIII
Electricity is cheaper than food.
DarklordDemise
And increased back issues
kriigern
You get the muscles you need for the job you do... No matter what.
TheRelevancyOfMyNameIsRelativelyIrrelevant
crossfit vs regular workout.
Trebior
technically the jackhammer burns electrical energy which I if its kj measurement would be higher.
SuckAFuck
BlueEyedDominus
Thenameideserved
technically the jackhammer doesn't burn any energy.
SolutionCat
Damn our hyper efficient bodies!
kamkor1
So your saying less work done for more power used
IAmASentientWaffle
you're*
drunkenpicklejympeer
I bet you are fun at parties
AssholesFullofElbows
The implication was human energy, however you are technically correct as the jack hammer probably runs about 12 amps FLA
ImGoingToEatAllYourApples
usernamepolice
Human energy is replenishable with fairly highly available resources (thanks to gmos weather u like em or not) but electrical energy is 1/2
usernamepolice
A bit more costly for many reasons. So he does make a fair point (not that u don't, just adding) 2/2
usernamepolice
A bit more costly for many reasons. So he does make a fair point (not that u don't, just adding) 2/2
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Sledgehammer might be faster. But try doing that for 30 years - I guarantee you'll regret choosing the sledgehammer over the jackhammer.
GrampaJack
30 years? 30 hours more like.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Anyone can endure any job for 30 hours. 30 years? Quite the difference.
changerofways9
30 years working a jackhammer and your body will be fucked too. Probably waaaaay worse.
remnant55
Not disagreeing, but I worked with a guy who was a jackhammer operator for a few decades. His knees were so bad he wouldn't sit on breaks.
Beltneck
It'd be 30 years before that jackhammer finished this floor.
AwardWinningName
Also I've used those electric jack hammers and they are garbage. The gas powered ones have like 4 times the strength
RonniRambo
it depends what model you buy.. :/
genericname2107
For sure. I've got that exact setup, 66 lbs Bosch electric with a pin driver. Do it all day and you're fine, but the sledge guy is dead.
Lucky1130
If you do it for 1 year your arms will be buffed af.
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
I've installed machinery at a truck engine damper factory. The guys there had big arms.
HumansArePrettyNeat
I have "excessive forearm muscle tone" and it causes chronic pain in my wrists and forearms.
Peterowski
That'd because a part of your brain or spine isn't working right, not because you used manual tools (unless you used them to hit your head)
Peterowski
Cranial trauma, sclerosis and a handful of Neural diseases cause hipertonia.
HumansArePrettyNeat
Hypertonia is a condition that can cause abnormally increased muscle tone. I have muscle tone that is consistent with the amount I use them.
Raditz25
Those vibrations do quite the damage to your nerves and bones over time. They both have thier downsides.
Acegammer5
Hard, jarring impacts have also been known to cause nerve damage.
Ruthknits3
And what about vibrating your brain half to death?
Acegammer5
My point was more of "Doing either for 30 years have major problems." than a defense of the jackhammer, but whatever.
SortOfAnEngineerNow
You can get clever little gadgets installed to tools now that tell you when to stop using them to avoid white finger.
SergeantSalsa
Also the newer ones have better shock absorbers
Pseudosim
They eventually wear out though, and then you have bosses that dont want to replace or repair them. (personal experience)
SortOfAnEngineerNow
Sad to hear that, that kind of willful ignorance makes my blood boil. Is that in the US? In UK health and safety is very thorough these days
404fuk
Have you used a jack hammer....... I would choose to be the forman. Much better and better pay
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
If any choice is valid I'd just choose to be a billionaire and hire people to work instead of myself... But that's cheating in this context.
Dekkonot
"Given the choice between a cashier and a clerk, I would choose to be a manager."
astinus
Of those three, CEO is better
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Or maybe just majority stock holder?
spectheintro
Well, to be fair, his form isn't great either. Swinging a sledge is just like swinging an axe--he should be coming full overhead and (1/2)
spectheintro
chopping down his center line, and using his posterior chain to add power during the down swing. If you swing that way, you're in a (2/3)
spectheintro
biomechanically advantageous position, and accrue the least wear-and-tear on your joints. You're still going to put your body through (3/4)
spectheintro
the ringer, but hey, everyone's gonna fall apart eventually. (4)
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Do workers train for this anywhere?
LongboardLiam
I like that outlook. I'd like to live for a while, but fuck if being 90 doesn't look like more hassle than it is worth.
Blacksandman
It is probably true, but in this situation, I think that move would've sent the other one in a nearby hospital
Subaruislife
Both suck. Go to college kids.
intjdude
College is okay, but better laws for worker health and safety would be good too.
Subaruislife
True. I really don't see how anyone could manage the dust and heat though. Machinery can only bridge so much of the gap.
Subaruislife
True. I really don't see how anyone could manage the dust and heat though. Machinery can only bridge so much of the gap.
hines7848
Yeah, be stuck in debt, working at a job you hate. Please matriculate at a place of higher education.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
College is free in my country. We get paid to go to school.
Subaruislife
At the very least, learn a trade. I've been swinging a hammer for four years and it sucks, especially when it's 90 and humid out.
astinus
Nail gun?
Subaruislife
Literally a 10 pound hammer or 68 pound jackhammer. Both suck.