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Dohdee
As someone who likes saving money 80% of what I spend is off Amazon only because they are so much cheaper than the anywhere else
mnorthwood13
Corporate structure and culture has been killing Kmart/Sears since anyone knew Amazon was more than a river. It accelerated the process.
Zath
Fact; K-mart started going to shit since they took on an ex-Walmart CEO. I swear there was collusion to kill K-Mart for Wallyworld.
mnorthwood13
No Eddie Lampert is out to make a buck for himself and fuck over everyone. He's did it to... Aeropostale?
Zath
Dude, I'm talking back in the early 2000s, not this current hassle shit.
mnorthwood13
Oh yeah after the early 00s bankruptcy they went "fuck it all"
dogvshusband
I miss buying full CDs I usually found more songs to enjoy that way not just the ones on the radio. CDs are just so expensive for the gamble
HeWillAdd
Uber has a terrible business model, and includes a future without a driver...their end game.
RedIronCrown
I don't really see why that's a terrible model.
roaringstar4
Airbnb is killing available housing in big cities...
yupthatsmondays
Ugh. I come here to get away from this linkedin meme.
ICantFigureOutGoodUsernameSoLetsSayIHadGreatIdeaButItWasTaken
30 years ago you would have to send letter to 50k people to share this. Please tell me how its not about tech
briandeez
This isn't about greed; it's about convenience. Almost all of these alternatives were ultimately a matter of convenience and ease of use.
PsychopompGecko
Don't make it hard for a customer to give you money.
MerToo
just make sure the customer never sees what your employees have to suffer to make the 'dream' come true
briandeez
Reduce the burden on your customer. It's simple business. The easier something is for someone, the more likely they are to use it.
celestial21
I totally agree with this. I have no idea if Uber is cheaper than a taxi for me, but I don't care because I know exactly when the driver ...
celestial21
will get there, I know how much I'm paying before I even get in and I don't have to dick around with payment when I arrive.
ILikeCharmanderOk
This post is fucking retarded. Who the fuck got this to FP? Literally nothing in it is true, it's just garbage facts to try to make a point.
Piornet
Ah so those mom & pop hardware stores where the people immediately helped you and knew exactly what you were looking for are gone because
Piornet
They weren't customer centric... But Home Depot is. Ok, got it.
LearnSomething
Home Depot is the kind of store they're talking about failing. Mom and pop places are failing for different reasons.
rudejohn
Home Depot is making huge profits. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/16/home-depot-reports-first-quarter-earnings.html
LearnSomething
Yes, I'm aware. It's because there isn't a tech company that competes with them. They are doing what the consumer needs.
rudejohn
I gotcha. I think @Piornet was saying Home Depot and Lowe's killed mom and pop hardware stores where people REALLY helped. No tech involved.
PrivateHomi
So no one is talking about 'google did not kill most of the human kind...' Oh wait, it's still 2017. I'm sorry guys, I'll see you later.
pixelsnader
I strongly disagree about uber and airbnb. They kill their industries by avoidimg taxes and fucking over employees in the long run.
dycdc932718
All of these are ridiculous feel good fact ideas. Technology allows you to do everything we have in the past just without huge prereq.
sassynpretentious
The real death of an industry is a lack of flexibility.
SalPic
Everybody knows millennials killed all these things.
draxxthemsklounst
I scrolled down just to find who was gonna say this. Well done.
Mattateus
And applebees
Sthawwaths
As a small business owner, no, amazon is killing retail. They're actively trying to. It isn't possible to keep up with their prices and 1/2
Sthawwaths
be able to stay afloat.
TallDude
These are all BS and wrong. Amazon is cheaper. Uber is cheaper. Netflix is convenient. Ainbnb is cheaper. Apple got on the digital game.
dipderp
No... definitely tech more than anything. Customer service is always beaten by low prices and convenience, see Walmart.
jwilson3135
Don't believe it? Try buying something out of the case at WM.
frostybox
in that particular case, depends on the customer. I hate, hate, hate Walmart and only go there if I absolutely have to.
NoWisdomWithoutRegret
In our town, our options are Walmart or the other two supermarkets who (unbelievably) treat customers/employees even worse. It blows.
NoWisdomWithoutRegret
Oh, and Aldi, but their selection (while pretty good quality-wise) is limited.
RubelliteFae
Aldi is amazing!
NoWisdomWithoutRegret
Oh, it is. Don't get me wrong. It's just that there are quite a few household staples I can't get there.
RubelliteFae
I haven't used Walmart in years. It's easy to overlook one violation of ethics, but they have too many to tolerate
despondentriver
I miss roaming around blockbuster on a Friday night tho. Ugh I'm old.
KeatonJazz
I remember!
asquiiiiiiisha
There are a couple of independent video stores in my city that seem to have survived by serving niche customers. They're a bit like the 1/?
asquiiiiiiisha
poke around the shelves looking for weird shit, you're in luck. (Also they let my parents sign a form letting me rent whatever I wanted) 3/3
asquiiiiiiisha
local independent place I grew up near - if you want the latest big Hollywood film, eh, they might have a couple of copies. If you want 2/3
kiddub
But technology allows businesses to deliver product directly to the customer in ways that were not possible prior to said technology.
kiddub
Netflix wasn't huge based on their DVD rental machines. They became massive when you could click on a movie from your couch.
kiddub
This sounds profound but isn't.
kiddub
You could always buy eps or singles.
kiddub
Amazon doesn't necessarily have great customer service. Stores with great customer service are looking for malls, or switching to online.
kiddub
The ability to find a hotel room in someone's house is increasing availability and cheaper without massive overhead/ amenities.
Tollo92
Amazons shady employee treatment and cutthroat pricing tactics are what made it strong. Not CX.
TheRedFox8
I'd love to see credible sources on that.
OnticFishstick
Disagree across the board on these statements. What was happening is accurate. What "killed" those industries was lack of adequate response
OnticFishstick
What's stated is especially unfair to small businesses impacted by Amazon building up buyer expectation at a loss to choke out smaller biz
Annoula
I call BS on the Amazon one. It was about convenience and not about a lack of customer care or experience. Especially looking at bookstores
Selendrile
Working at a loss to kill zappos and the baby company was the point.
RubelliteFae
Being able to buy from home _does_ increase customer buying experience.
AnnieGoolahee
Amazon has killed realistic customer expectations.
Annoula
Thank you!
KeeperOfWind
It's the same way in ye old times where Sears did orders via catalog. These older stores refuse to update their website and adapt.
WhoTheFuckisGavin
Also running no-charge delivery takes out the smaller businesses, which in return destroys competition.
worb84
I don't. I turned to Amazon after years of local music/book stores telling me "We don't have it, but we can order it." So can I, and faster
Salacius
That's not bad customer service, that's the convenience factor he was talking about.
DukeDark
About half of my transactions with Amazon are extremely negative. I think i keep using them because I am lazy
GOAE
Pretty much all of these are actually due to unmatched price, unmatched convenience, or both in my opinion
Frankinbeijing
Price, convenience, and reviews
asquiiiiiiisha
Yes, Amazon's prominence is about price and convenience, not customer service. Amazon didn't recommend the books series I just devoured.
Malixet
It's frustrating to me that Amazon's metrics can give better recs on 6 book purchases than B&N can on over 200. :/
asquiiiiiiisha
I find that recommendation algorithms don't work very well because they only know what I bought/rated highly, not *why*.
Malixet
At least Amazon manage to give me authors I've previously purchased. B&N gave me "books you might be interested in" that were generic. :/
Malixet
As in, "here's our list of bestseller books that aren't even in the same genre as the hundreds of books you've bought from us."
TheRedFox8
I work at Amazon. We strive to provide the best customer service possible, but unfortunately there are still the bad apples of the bunch...
asquiiiiiiisha
I'm sure you do, but I wouldn't ask an Amazon rep to recommend me something personally. It's not your job, but it is in a real bookstore.
TheRedFox8
Yeah, I agree with that, and I don't even think we're supposed to. Dunno if there's even a policy against it XD
asquiiiiiiisha
Lol. And I mean, if I order something online I'm hoping to never speak to a CSR, because that means something went wrong.
SpiderTwoWideBanana
How did they taste?
asquiiiiiiisha
A little papery, but well peppered with excitement.
krugle
I'm not sure you can call it greed if the company replacing such things are pulling in record profits.
tevans3500
Was the greed to start
krugle
As it was with the companies replacing such things, they didn't do it for the march of humanity; they did it because they saw an oppertunity
NivalisAngelus
Yay.. Capitalism.. Woo..
krugle
Eh, capitalism in itself isn't bad. It's only when people sacrifice others in the pursuit of money that it becomes a problem.
Clockworkdancerobot
An unwatched system will be taken advantage of by the worst players, and make others who don't do the same follow or die.
NivalisAngelus
Agreed. Just saw an opportunity for a bad joke so I took it.
FilthyPierre
http://imgur.com/7GNkfFP
Gustie13
Nitpicking here but Uber isn't even close to profitable
s0cietya5under
Tell that to the oil companies. Their cost have went up about 5-10% in the past 30 years, but their price is about 250%....so yea .
Guitardrumr
While I agree the consumer price inflation is ridiculous, only comparing to their production cost isn't accurate.
SpaceOrks
Blockbuster died because they didn't do what Netflix did. Not necessarily the return policy.
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CamelaShy
^ This was defining for me. Streaming on demand means I can do it *any* time without mail or rent in store hassle.
FreakyFerguson
Yes but...Why the fuck does this post have an "aww' tag?
iOnlyPostAboutCatsandGames
Now you're asking the right questions
Dispari
Yeah. Pretty much all these examples are of a business failing due to a refusal to adapt to a changing market.
mybrothersmario
Millennials aren't killing Applebee's, the refusal to adapt to a changing demographic is killing Applebee's...
LPlane2
Blockbuster tried the mail service when Netflix first came out...just too little too late
Counterfit
I had it. It was a pretty good deal, actually. Didn't have to pay extra for Blu-Ray
ahbiteme
I worked in a video store (in Australia). The late fees are because of the distributors, not Blockbuster. Back then, a new VHS for rental (1
ahbiteme
cost the store AU$100 per tape. Brand new releases would be $7.50 per night, so you have to rent them out for two weeks before you make a (2
ahbiteme
profit. They're only popular for a week or so, so when someone keeps them for an extra few nights, it has a big impact on the business. (3)
ahbiteme
So it's really about the cost from the distributor. The retailer is just trying to make ends meet given that cost. (4/4)
Tinkrr
No! Blockbuster died because they tried to do something Netflix would do in the far future. They were ahead of their times.
twistedsyns
Well if they would have just bought Netflix when they had the chance then they would still be around.
SherMattLockSmith
Blockbuster also refused an offer to buy Netflix.
ArmyThrowAwayAccount
Except they tried to enter the streaming market in the 90s...they had a 1.5 billion deal with a little company called Enron.
Muchbeefsodinner
Yah. This image sucks.
Assfullofbread
A little while before they closed down, Blockbuster in Canada had no late fees
poobacca
Blockbuster was killed by Redbox more than Netflix.
lightningboltkid1
Funny how BOTH were offered up to Blockbuster first but the BoD laughed them out of the offices when breached for a deal.
Saggardsquirrel
FAECI
Blockbuster did everything netflix did, but the company they contracted to make their streaming service went bankrupt, delaying the...
FAECI
...proyect and giving Netflix the headstart they needed. and blockbusters streaming wasnt much better than Netflix either
erischilde
They were also offered Netflix early and denied it, then got sued for ripping off their process. It was a series of really bad decisions/1
erischilde
That ignored the future, even current trends at the time, betting on physical media lasting forever... /2
FAECI
but thats not true, nobody in blockbuster resisted the future, the future simply came too fast, their streaming service was a side project..
StringVar
Apple didn't kill the music industry because it sold single songs to people. It was digital distribution just like Netflix vs blockbuster.
Clockworkdancerobot
Apple made a big push for digital distribution though. It was their might that made studios relax their sphincters on DRM.
v3rmilion
Apple has their own DRM. Like, such invasive DRM that the quality of the music itself is affected slightly. Music corps don't drm anyway
YeahWellAboutThat
Umm..wasn't that Amazon? Too lazy to google it, but I'm pretty sure Apple did this in reaction to Amazon offering un-DRMed MP3 downloads.
Clockworkdancerobot
https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2007/02/8782/
Clockworkdancerobot
Talk was that Apple had been doing a lot of the push for a while. Amazon's deals starting Amazon Music likely helped.
Saustino
They actually did do exactly what Netflix did. They just did it way to late and they throttled your "unlimited" account if you watched too
Saustino
Many movies in a month. It was bullshit.
Tinkrr
What people don't know, is that Blockbuster wanted to push streaming, that's why it didn't buy Netflix. They even had a deal with Enron.
badwolfandtheoncomingstorm
Yeah, I worked at a Mom and Pop video store that basically didn't enforce late fees that still went out of business. Very customer-centric.
needanamedammit
The last video rental store in town went out of business last year. Ironically enough, the attached arcade has expanded to fill the 1/
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rest of of the building they were located in.
badwolfandtheoncomingstorm
Huh, that's interesting. But I feel like arcades have the nostalgia factor that just couldn't sustain a video store.
needanamedammit
This place was an arcade and video store back when this shit was new. Pretty shrewd business to keep afloat for nearly 30 years.
mrbadxampl
video did not kill the radio star?
pehmet
internet did not kill the video star?
WhatTheDormouseSaid
No, video did kill that
Mockturtlesoop
Yup. The jury voted for aquittal though
Secretsquid
No autotune killed the radio star
lagspike79
Being forced to be kind and rewind did.
deathglow
Yes but internet killed the video star.
deathglow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Y5j_Sdub8
Skizzlesnap
But pregnant 16 yr/olds killed the video star.
Haynesisbae
Nah, reality killed the video star
s0cietya5under
Just like scripted reality killed good television.
relicen
Yeah... I can't even watch History or Discovery any more. It's all shit. Shit everywhere.
MiguelCardoso808
Is it still hard and dangerous to drive trucks on on snow filled roads ?
txtmylife
Truer, sadder words have never been spoken.
fairybug
My friend doesn't get it.
MiguelCardoso808
The show Teen Moms airs on "M"TV and slew of many others past and present=no music videos.
TangoDeltaYager
Nah , radio is stronger than ever and MTV is sucking ass and almost dead
sciencebasedlifeform
Youtube killed MTV? Besides shitty programming anyway...
mrbadxampl
MTV killed MTV
Puninthe0ven
Was waiting for this tbh.
CloakerJosh
I love the fact that the first music video ever shown was this song.
Wauphale
Radio is still important and culturally significant.
superanth
More like Apple made a fortune while the RIAA was still running around suing people.
Konoton
The radio star went supernova years ago
DontYouHateWhenAllUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken
What did you tell your children?
spicygutz99
Joyce manors version of this song is so fucking good
theedragonlady
Best Buy killed radio shack
MuffinProof
I didn't shoot the sheriff?
fistermatic5000
But I DID shoot the deputy.
Compendyum
Idk, but I admit I was the one who let the dogs out...
NotAplicable
So it was you, all along...
MichaelCBennett
Yeah, I'll buy that. Now explain what happened to the deputy...
rickeyspanish
fake news
Imightbetrolling
As someone who still listens to the radio. No.
LookAtThisGraph
Guns don't kill people?
geiokami
Video killed the radio star.
OfficialJoeBiden
Blasphemy.
ChewyChewbacca88
Radio isn't dead- there are like 40million BBC radio stations.
Spacemayo
https://youtu.be/zx5tSmOY_iM Internet killed the video star
Janusha
No that one is true. Research shows that video did indeed kill the radio star.
travishay
What research are you reading? 96% of Canadians listen to radio in a day, and the trend is on an upward swing. (Don't have US #s)
dex2775
Ees a song reference, hombre.
CloakerJosh
96%?! There's not way that is accurate.
travishay
This is per Numeris, Canada's media audience measurement organization (Our version of Neilson)
CloakerJosh
Sorry, but I just don't buy it. In the age of Spotify, I can't fathom 96% of people use commercial radio. Just can't. I don't, for example.
TheGrubermeister
The inability to see what you were hearing did
TheThayn
"Taste all of the colors of the wind" - Poker-haunt-us
GregoriusDaneli
Back in my day, we had this thing called an "imagination".
freezerFullaPopsicles
StalkerSan
So basically video killed radio?
randelung
LDS would have helped, but that's a different matter.
Anarric
I so thought you were making a Star Trek4 reference here...
drdavessardogs
What do the Mormon's have to do with this?
OhCharlie
Wow..... Lsd.... :)
randelung
Wow. LSD.
maincarrot
ease up on the SLD mang
crazysmile
I prefer to think you meant the Mormon church of Later Day Saints that is much funnier
randelung
What do they put in their wine?
Eldibs
How are Mormons going to help?
NobodyofParticularConsequence
With their psychedelic drugs.
Skale33
I'm only going to say this one more time, that's the scientologists.
Clockworkdancerobot
Many of these industries were fat and lazy, the demand has been there for a long while. Technology just made it easier to satisfy it.
MerToo
thin and desperate is SO much better than fat and lazy, if we're talking about the servant class. Just not for them, but who cares? Fuck'em.
LearnSomething
This is exactly why the cable companies are starting to fail now. People have been asking for a la cart channels for a while and now othet
LearnSomething
Streaming companies are offering it.
dycdc932718
Exactly this. Where is Comcast isp going? Falling to the bandwidth formatting which now supports hundreds of isps all fighting for price.
Clockworkdancerobot
Comcast WAS a disruptive group originally. Back when Internet was mostly dial up. Now they are a rent seeking behemoth.
IamTheBaron
If you don't evolve, you die.
ottotravel
This is over simplifying, it is not just about technology, it is about cutting costs in labor and quality control, lack of evolution etc.
hodorgoestomordor
I'd say it's first and foremost not understanding the customer, and abusing an assumed monopoly.
BarrelLemon
Also the hotel industry is very far from dead. Not going to be soon neither.
supersomatic
Lets ignore the fact that airBnB and Uber are borderline illegal
iliketosaysomethingandthenjustbanana
Unless they are violating human rights, I can't see why it would be illegal to exchange services for money.
Arishak
Thank you! Tired to hear that uber-things are revolutionary while they often mess with workers.
lurkerburzerker
airbnbs don't pay for use permits, licensing, insurance, fire extinguishers, etc. etc. etc. we do pay all these as well as bed tax (TOT)
erischilde
Yeah, the problem with Airbnb isn't hotels, it's destroying local housing and living rentability.
DidItForScience
Uber in my city is skirting regulatory fees that taxis pay and are operating at a loss to gain market share.
superhans1988
Not in my city they ain't!
DidItForScience
Out here they undercut cabs by a LOT, I get $4.99 flat rate rides across the greater metro area... easily $30 by cab for the same ride.
superhans1988
When there's a game on in my town they inflate the prices x 3
DidItForScience
They do that here too. The flat rate doesn't count near the airport either. But the rest of the time they are undercutting for market share.
spetcnaz
OP is wrong. Technology and the failure to adopt to it fast enough is what killed most of these businesses. However ability to get away with
spetcnaz
unfair business practices also helps them, mainly Amazon, Uber, and Airbnb.
Alistairetheblu
Yeah it's almost as if any event can have multiple factors leading to it!
MattC867
It's also ignoring real issues that these disruptors create. NYC is a great example - landlords kicking out tenants to Airbnb the rooms.
Jabokoe
Yep a lot of these companies just bypass regulation or unions by slightly rephrasing jobs and 'contractors'
CrocodileDunphy
That says more about the value-add of unions that it does about the companies who are union-free shops
Jabokoe
Like amazon managed to save some pennies by having warehouses without AC. They just had an ambulance instead of upgrading the building...
ottotravel
Getting something for the absolute cheapest is not necessarily how you create an economy that has well taken care of workers.
YeahWellAboutThat
And Uber is still hemorrhaging money.
erischilde
I hope so. Nothing but jitneys, just big enough to overwhelm the law...
Ninjainslippers
I think the biggest oversight is Amazon. They specifically aim to eliminate local independent businesses.
OnticFishstick
Exactly
accountabyss
But Netflix, Apple, Amazon absolutely did disrupt with pure technology. Did they think there's no customer service/experience online? Absurd
YeahWellAboutThat
It's over simplifying to the point of it being complete bullshit.
chefsoda
Yuppers
canigetofftheworldplease
Agree
Tylendal
Yeah. There's a fight over letting Uber into BC right now, and I am strongly opposed. It's not "Ridesharing" it's just low oversight taxis.
TravestyDiner
First of all, uber is coming to BC in November, whether you like it or not. Secondly, low oversight? I've lived in BC my whole life(1/?)
TravestyDiner
What oversight do we have now? Other than telling people where they can and cannot pick up? At least with uber I know the person (2/?)
TravestyDiner
I can lodge a complaint against. I have seen far too many shady business practices to have any sympathy (3/?)
TravestyDiner
Our taxi services are garbage. It's about time we got some competition. Granted, their surge pricing is a dubious. (4/?)
TilledCone
BC taxi service is an absolute joke and something needs to change for it.
Tylendal
Maybe, but we can't let Uber pretend that they're anything but a taxi service.
TravestyDiner
Personally, I've never had the impression that they were anything else, But competition is important. Don't like uber? Don't fucking use it
Tylendal
Thing is, it's not fair competition. Taxi's are subject to restrictions and laws that Uber should be, but isn't.
kittybuttwiggle
And what's wrong with low oversight taxis if people are happier with them than with "real" taxis?
ottotravel
You create an economy where a taxi driver who could make a living wage now also works two other jobs. This. This economy.
JayEnfield
The NL tried an experiment with something similar a long time ago. Ended up with a LOT of muggings.
lookinatdumbshitontheinternet
If you were (hypothetically) 10x more likely to have an accident in a poorly regulated cab, the vast majority of journeys would be fine...
igivetheinternets
Mainly the problem is people are happybecause it's cheap but only from investor subsidies. Eventually Uber plans to screw everyone when taxi
igivetheinternets
Taxis die. They get to break the rules of comoetition, run the other guys out if business then jack up the price with a monopoly
TilledCone
But Uber isn't the only ride sharing service. They aren't alone in their market, unlike taxis in many places
LupusIgnis
We just threw them out of Denmark. The supreme court declared them an illegal taxicab organization.
ButWhyTho
Then you guys are retarded.
00110001001001111010000110110110011
But as a consumer it's SUCH an upgrade over taxis. No shady, sweaty driver ripping you off. Uber issued us a refund in 21 seconds when 1/2
00110001001001111010000110110110011
a driver took an extremely long detour. Our destination was 1.5 km away and this guy drove us for 19 km.
igivetheinternets
Doesn't he get paid based on their routing program?
TilledCone
Yes.
TheOtherAlan
The Taxi and Hotels are heavily regulated, which have added cost. Just wait for gov to regulate them too, and costs go up
VSGH
Yeah the taxi industry is a mess of regulations, my dad used to work in it. The red tape, fees, and wait lists are insane.
Monticello19
Regulation isn't always a bad thing. Standards are important.
Monticello19
and humans are naturally greedy and self interested.
Rabh
they should be heavily regulated to maintain high standards and safety
YouWillNotLikeThis
Über is getting banned in many countries in europe becauase that and because they don't pay taxes
kratlusker96
And they are not living up to the safety and consumer rights standards that taxi companies have to uphold.
snipekill1997
Except it's the taxi's own fault. At first the regulations existed to keep it from being a mob business but then the new taxi companies (1)
YouWillNotLikeThis
I don't think that is how it works. Taxi regulation is a fucking mess in almost all countries e.g; Denmark we don't have a mob but the 1)
YouWillNotLikeThis
2) regulation on taxis is still complicated and fucked.
snipekill1997
While I cannot confirm it was the same in Denmark the regulations were because taxis HAD BEEN associated with criminal activity. (1)
snipekill1997
And their regulation succeed at stopping that decades ago. (2)
HighlandPotatoe
Personally my issue with current taxis is their inability to take digital funds or even card in most cases. Convenience is the biggest thing
asquiiiiiiisha
I can't think of a taxi I've been in recently that didn't at least take cards.
poughdrew
"my card reader is not working cash only"
snipekill1997
worked to make the regulations complicated and expensive to prevent new entries. (2)
Kounetsu
Airbnb is also butchering real estate value as well. Not just the hotel industry.
Justme127001
Also: No information or ability to turn in a possible scammer, unless you have an account.
YouWillNotLikeThis
It's fucking up the housing market in copenhagen. People buy flats just to rent out through airbnb
Counterfit
Same in San Francisco.
chloramphenicolderivative
Copenhagen real estate market has a ton of different issues as well though. Current lending practices is making it a huge bubble.
SoupCanMan
I'm just waiting for Uber or Lyft to get popular enough that some congress-critters decide that "independent contractor" is no longer >>>
SoupCanMan
applicable, and a high publicity lawsuit from an accident, and suddenly they get regulated like taxis and/or over the road truckers. <<<
Counterfit
There have already been lawsuits based on the independent contractor model they use. Both from a labor angle, and from collusion by setting
Counterfit
the same price for every driver.
peskyboner
Uber has pulled out of cities before when they were regulated
srsfaceI8C
It's just a matter of time. Nevada passed a law you need a business licence to work for ride shares. It'll kill uber and lyft here quickly/1
thoushaltnotpass
Uber and Lyft work around this problem in Belgium by claiming they've no knowledge or responsibility on their contractor's compliance to law
srsfaceI8C
That's kind of irrelevant. The reason this law is so dangerous is it puts more risk on the part of the people working so they'll not want to
srsfaceI8C
Because no one will work for them soon. It'll be too expensive to get a business licence to make minimum wage like you do doing this /2
chloramphenicolderivative
It's so much nicer when the government just leaves things alone. Half the time, it feels like they make things suck out of pure spite.
CyanideSprite
Not all things are better with less regulation. The reason why Uber and Airbnb get by a little better with less is that there are more
CyanideSprite
Avenues of visibility for customers to make an impact with reviews and such. It's taken for granted a super 8 hotel will have middling
CyanideSprite
Reviews online. Nothing is taken for granted with an airbnb so the reviews hold more weight.
LiamNeesonOfficial
Govt tend to regulate their cronies' competitors, if they cant outright outlaw them; you're not wrong.
TheTerramancer
This is especially true for cable, I think. Streaming isn't killing cable tv, shitty pricing and cutthroat business practices is.
smjzjess
They should price it per channel and you can pay a la carte for the ones you watch. Don't want to pay 120 a month to get the channel 1/2
smjzjess
In the top tier that I want. Don't give a shit about the other 499 channels.
screamingwinemaker
Which is probably why they're probably going after Net Neutrality now.
michaeljasonhawks360
Haven't had cable I years... don't miss it.
Tristers1
Also ads being 25% of all screentime
afterdinneromelets
Not to mention the fact that Netflix, etc. doesn't have loud, annoying ads that interrupt your show every 10 minutes.
FilthyRapscallions
Not to mention infamously terrible customer service. \
Sirsir94
Thats the exact reason my dad told them do fuck off. Which they did, cut the cable feed while he was still on the phone
bezuer
and convenience: nothing beats being able to choose what and when to watch
whatbuttondoipush
PREACH!
QuikThinx
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Isthe4thtimethecharm
And too damn many commercials.
PumpkinSpiceSniffingHannibalCrazedChristmasTart
Naw it's 33% of airtime being commercials which while I'm at it fuck you, Hulu.
PumpkinSpiceSniffingHannibalCrazedChristmasTart
Let me amend that: shitty pricing, cutthroat business practices, commercials out the ass, inconvenient viewing methods.
dmax12
$20 to get cable, but the one channel you want is only included in the $60 package. sorry
RepublicofTexa
With all the new streaming services getting exclusive content contacts, streaming is going to get as bad price wise
Enigmastick
I don't even understand why TVs exists anymore to be honest.
circlebreaker
Over-billing on purpose as well...
LooseWomen
True. You want to watch your favourite sports team...buy the whole sports package with hours of shows and sports you don't care about
AluminiumFalcon
The thing I never got about cable was if I'm paying for the channels then why do I have to watch commercials?
RepublicofTexa
You're paying the cable providers. Most Comercial revenue goes to the networks not the cable providers. Espn pays a ton for the rights to 1/
RepublicofTexa
Live games because they know that's one of the few things people don't ffw through Comercials
SuperPickle17
the thing that gets me... You pay for Public TV that is scrammed full of commercials, but it's 100% free over the air........
Frederf
Cable TV is pretty awesome now. Cable TV for $250/mo isn't.
bonly89
Don't worry, shitty pricing and cutthroat exclusive deals are slowly infiltrating streaming too...not to mention ISPs prioritizing theirs.
dmax12
Yeah. netflix is loosing a lot of content because they are moving to their own service that is $15+ a month
FFSharkHunter
I'm a simple man: if it isn't on Netflix, I pirate it.
openyomind
Good thing you can stream or download everything ever created for free :)
SpicyServos
Not to mention it's not the promised, eternal library of content. "Watch what you want, when you want" is getting diluted.
TheGreyKnightsBANNED
FUCK ISPs
SpaceOrks
When Cable TV falls, so will your local TV station. #1 source of their funding is cable companies.
SpaceOrks
They basically keep demanding more money as "broadcast fees" from the providers.
proksmash
Possible but if they hire some innovative thinkers to create new revenue models then they will be fine. Record labels survived iTunes
SpaceOrks
Barely.
bonly89
Good thing I never watch local TV unless it's watching council meetings for comedic purposes
Tails155
Used games and Steam aren't killing the gaming industry. DRM and consumer unfriendly business practices are.
freezingpilot
I mean, steam is kinda DRM, and their new gifting policy annoyed thousands of gamers into trying different services...
Tails155
As Jim Sterling says, if you make the games easy to access, and don't make it user unfriendly, DRM isn't a problem. It's when it interferes.
Drbubbles47
Whats wrong with the gifting policy? aside from you having to have a spare copy to gift it to someone, unlike physical copies.
freezingpilot
You can't store gifts anymore to give out as you choose, and you can no longer buy a gift as a Canadian to give to a friend in the US.
Drbubbles47
Are you sure? I have 2 gifts currently waiting in my inventory that I can still give out, they have been there for months. When did it
Drbubbles47
change? I'll take your word on the Canada bit though.
CmRock136
I'm 31. Haven't purchased cable in 7 years. I never will either until the day they allow me to pick only a few channels at a good price
CmRock136
Cable packages make as much sense as going to a dealership and saying "I want that red Jeep" and then the salesman says, "Okay, but you 1/?
CmRock136
have to purchase the black Jeep and the yellow one too because they come bundled as a package." No one would buy cars if it worked like 2/?
CmRock136
that. It's the same flawed logic. You should only have to pay for exactly what you want and will use. \\ End Rant 3/3
SuperPickle17
it costs the cable company the exact same rather you have access to X channel or not. So it makes sense why they want to charge a hefty fee
Rednaxel6
Im just totally over having to watch something only at one particular time. How stupid. Its just capitalism bro.
Kovahjin
I can't afford to pay cable. Haven't had it for years now. Just internet alone is a quarter of the cost.
shinagami091
I agree to an extent. The real problem is with the content providers. They gouge cable providers for more money because they know they can
shinagami091
Get away with it and get none of the blame. Cable companies don't get to carry channels for free, you know.
Clockworkdancerobot
When people have to be roped into expensive packages that are advertised "$60/mo for 6 months!" *tiny text: 24 month contract.
AsianOnboard
I work at Dish because our 24 month thing actually stays that way the whole time so I don't feel like a horrible person selling it
Clockworkdancerobot
Didn't for people in 2009, and there were lawsuits because of it. They had 24 month contracts, but had rates raised on them. Dish sucks.
Mistruths
and then it's $180/mo or more after the six
Clockworkdancerobot
What other purpose is there for a plan that is cheap at the start, but expensive later on?
killer10347
Why do people pay for cable at all anymore? You can get 100% of what you want to watch via computer.
Clockworkdancerobot
Internet bandwidth caps, dead areas, lack of competition in many spaces, ISP traffic fixing...
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bunneedo
Tip: don't ever believe anything from someone selling cable inside a Walmart or Costco... I work at a call center and those people will 1/
bunneedo
Straight up lie to anyone to make a sell. And there ain't shit you can do after you're locked in that contract.
UltimaCaitSith
Fug. I literally just walked out of a Costco for this very purpose. Any advice on what people SHOULD do? Regular pricing is balls.
bunneedo
The company I work for always gives an order confirmation that has the pricing and agreements literally in bold on the top of the first page
Suntok
Or they advertise $60 per month, you sign the contract, and then find out the monthly bill is close to $200 after various fees...
dingofdong
This is why you read the fine print first
Suntok
Don't know why you got down voted. That's a fair point and a lesson I learned the hard way!
dingofdong
Idk, fuck reading I guess? :P
Ladybug505
This is so true in Canada, we have way less options than the states
pyr0chaos
yep. we literally have 2 options for cable/phone/internet in my city, and they are both equally as expensive and shitty.
s0cietya5under
Kodi.
Ellimem
If you want cable in the States, it's rare to have more than one option.
hadtochangeitcosdavefoundme
fewer
MrRuin
Yep. It felt so good to cut the cord. Streaming allowed me to be free of being gouged and treated like crap.
Rip42
So you have no options? Because most people in the states have one option.
AluminiumFalcon
I have a choice between satalite, cable and streaming.
Ladybug505
I got rid of it because it was costing $180 a month.
diehardlance
Well there are a lot more companies in the states, it's just that they are able to legally monopolize areas.
PowwerOrb13
An entire province basically had only one phone provider until recently, All of Manitoba covered by one company.
InvadingYourSpaces
We have three invisible options. They're identical, they raise their prices together, put out the same bundles, and have a monopoly.
littleasianninja
I love watching hockey. Cable is the only way to do it without pirating or vpn and nhl center ice. So i pay it.
bonly89
Sports fans make up most cable television users
CaptSumTingWong
I stream nhl gamecenter through my roku to my tv, just need good internet
maybeimamazed
Gamecenter (renamed NHL.tv) is available on PC as well if you do not have a Roku. I have used both since boycotting Center Ice on cable.
CaptSumTingWong
Yeah nhl TV is great I travel for work so I can stream thru roku at home then watch on my laptop at the hotels
littleasianninja
Does roku negate the zip code viewing restrictions?
CaptSumTingWong
No unfortunately, you can use some ip address scramblers that you pay a subscription to though and register ur address in Mexico