Dude, halfway through your comment I had already swiped left on three hundred people, watched eleven videos on Imgur and enjoyed a documentary on YT about the blob fish. Now I forgot what timezone I'm in, my home address and how to spell my middle name. Then I got into an argument with my mom about not taking my ADHD meds. Ooops, my favorite show just dropped. Gotta binge it. TTFN
Unless the garage is climate controlled, the ideal temperature range for a refrigerator to operate efficiently is typically between 32°F & 90°F (0°C to 32°C). In an unheated garage, temperatures can fluctuate significantly, particularly in extreme weather conditions. Most refrigerators are designed to function well within this range, but exposure to excessive heat or cold can impair their performance.
I turned a spare bedroom into a home gym & that's where my second fridge & deep freezer is.
The funny thing is that if you are preoccupied by your energy bill you probably cannot afford a good second fridge (if can have a good first one that's already great)...
That's true, not like I'm wealthy but when making a certain amount of money with no kids and someone says something like: dude that must get terrible gas mileage. I realized I hadn't even thought about it because 50-100 dollars was no longer scary for me to think I wouldn't have.
Where I grew up (Denmark), the boomer generation built their own houses, and they were good at it too. They are good at building and repairing things. Younger people throw out so much stuff because they dont know how to repair it (also because things are not built for repair today).
Lots of young people are extremely handy. Youtube can confirm, but perhaps the vast majority of people knowing simple fixes for common issues has plummeted thanks to the entire psyop that is enshittification.
It depends on your situation. If you have the money available to buy a large quantity of something that will last while it's on sale, you will likely save money in the long run. IMO a freezer or a chest freezer is more useful than a second fridge because you can stock that thing full of meats and vegetables when they are cheaper and coast on that for a loooong time.
Years ago there was a study here in NZ that suggested that we weren't seeing the benefit of more energy efficient fridges because people just kept their old fridges for drinks etc after they bought a new one.
When you find something you like, say a pair of shoes that fit perfectly, you buy as many as will last the rest of your life. When your last pair is wearing out, you know your time is up. Wait! That wasn't Boomers. That was Mr. Magorium! At any rate, he was right that they always discontinue that ONE thing... Buy 'em up if you can.
Those Boomers like Bill Gates who developed MS and TimBL who invented the WWW ruined everything so that Millennials and Gen Whatevers had something to play with.
Tim Berners Lee was just trying to share scientific work across a bunch of of incompatible computers at CERN, don't lump him in with creepy Bill. Pre Web 2.0 internet when it was all geocities and randomness and not huge "platforms" was actually pretty cool.
when i lived with 5 others i bought a mini fridge for my bedroom so i can stash my drinks in there. There was no risk of theft, our kitchen fridge was just on the smaller side.
What is this social security you speak of? If I quit work tomorrow best the government can do even here in "glorious Communist Germany" (according to the US) is making us collect bottle and can deposit for the rest of our disease ridden life.
And then proceeding to kick the ladder so later generations could not have the same advantages. Fuck Reagan, Bush Sr. and Jr., Clinton, and Trump. Obama gets a free pass because he tried but I hope McConnell and Graham are both in hell freezing or getting their ass eaten by Satan.
So we burnt through it by collecting it? Sorry for being selfish. Take a look at the number of young ones who either didn’t vote or voted for Trump. But you keep hating your grandparents.
Dismantling federal social programs happened in the 80s and 90s before any of us could vote. It was framed as an act of empowering parents, states, localities. This was dwarfed by increased military spending and tax cuts. The result is always the same. Resources pool wherever wealth is already concentrated. Those without localized wealth are left behind.
My father in law got his doctorate in veterinary medicine from UC Davis for just under 2 months of part time work every summer. 8 years, graduated with 0 debt. This was in like 1966-74
I think the problem with that is that access due to the underlying primary and secondary school systems is highly income dependent. Free college will be a subsidy to higher income earners until that is fixed.
It's the opposite. College itself is locked behind a paywall of adequately providing for your children and sending them to good schools. People who make more money already disproportionately get into college at higher rates. Making it free won't fix that (they're already accessible to lower income students as it is because of loans).
"Making it free won't fix that." Brother, if I had the time an energy without thinking about the debt having over me, I could have four degrees right now. Of course it's pay to play, and if you don't pay, you don't play. I had a teacher at my community college run after me in the hallway to tell me my $500 grant was being given to another student because I wasn't working hard enough. I was 19. Working through all the bullshit, FAFSA, grants, loans. Bullshit. We should have fixed it long ago.
Tax dollars are totally fine to go to billionaires, but I'll be damned if my less financially stable neighbor can use my tax dollars for education and possibly better society. BIG fucking /S on this one, you nob.
Opposite. College graduates are disproportionately higher income and have higher income prospects over their lifetime. Free college subsidizes people who come from better economic backgrounds and usually need less assistance as time goes on.
Not who you replied to, but I think you misread them. I think they're trying to say that because lower income families often don't have the same quality of primary & secondary schools, they also have a lower level of access to higher education. Because of that, just making college free would disproportionately benefit families already doing well, and so we must also fix the early education gap.
🤷♂️Idk, maybe I'm wrong but it sounded to me like they were on the right side of this one
Hard to link something that had been taken away. They had more powerful labor unions., pensions, more federal funding in colleges (to the point a summer job could pay for it, before student loans were a thing), could still use the homestead act, had more access to housing subsidies, and the wealthy were taxed without a million loopholes.
But some of this got out of reach more recently. My gen-x mom bought her first house while working min wage at burger king. Same house costs over 5x more now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Trust_Fund. Peaked at about $3 trillion, expected to be depleted by boomers and run dry in 2034, at which point those receiving SS (mostly GenX) will get screwed by having their benefits cut.
All we have to do is increase the cap for taxable income... you only have to pay on ~$400k. So someone who earns 1/2 of million or more a year pays the same amount of tax as the $400k earner. We should be taxing them the most!
Actually the tax cap is $184k this year, not $400k.
However benefits are also capped, so it ends up being a wash, unless you turn it into a wealth transfer system, which SS wasn't designed to be. (there are other systems designed for that - e.g. Medicaid, SNAP, section 8 housing, etc.)
When ever my boomer mom complains about social security all I can think is “at least you get to experience it, I’ll be paying into it most of my life and then it will just go away.”
FWIW though - I don't so much blame the boomers. It's an actuarial problem; no one expected there to be so few births over the last few decades. There haven't been enough workers paying into the fund over the last 30-ish years. The boomers have taken advantage yes, but it's not actually their fault.
The point of my comment was more about how my mother, and some other boomers, complain about SS being shitty or worrying about losing it before they die, while never acknowledging that their own children and grandchildren are also paying into the same pyramid scheme but will never see a cent of it. They are really good at yelling about their privileges being lessened while ignoring that their offspring have been, and forever will be denied said privileges altogether. And halfof them are to blame
Product longevity. My grandma's natural gas dryer lasted for close to 60 years. Our Samsung dryer lasted about 2 before its main board blew a capacitor the size of my fist.
When I was in a small space, there was the kitchen fridge, and my little old college fridge for the beverages. Then when I just want a gatorade, I'm not dumping the cold air from my produce
Back when I was young (and stupid) as opposed to old (and stupid), I had two roommates and we lived in an apartment together. We ran an extension cord (a prime sample of said stupidity) and had a fridge on our tiny outdoor patio. Just enough room for the fridge, a small grill and one person. We made the most of it. Somehow we never started a fire or got electrocuted.
I like the garage fridge, but the logic falls down when you want to replace your kitchen fridge and demote it to the garage. I mean, if it still works, why replace it? If it is not energy efficient, why keep it?
Depending on the house layout, garage fridges are usually really useful for BBQs and garden parties, as people don't need to walk into the house to get another beer.
Sometimes you replace your fridge for reasons other than being broken. We moved into a house once that had the most basic fridge you can imagine. My wife wanted something with an ice maker. So we replaced the fridge and moved the old one to the basement.
My grandparent’s ‘garage fridge’ was a chest freezer, not a fridge. It was larger than the kitchen freezer and usually full of ancient frozen meat. Some of the meat had expiration dates from before the year I was born. Some of it expired before my parents were born.
Is your old fridge *that* much less efficient, that it would require less energy to actually build a whole new fridge than to continue using the old one? The "reuse" part of reduce/reuse/recycle comes to mind here.
Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a major appliance last less than 15 years. (That said - my last fridge crapped out 5 years after I bought the house with it, not sure how old it was, is may have been under 15)
These days your thought process is valid. Just 20 years ago and not even close, refrigeration tech has advanced in efficiency massively in the last 20 years or so. That is why you’re going to get division on this topic.
Even if they don't stop working they might lose efficiency if the environment is too cold, and use more electricity despite the temperature difference being smaller.
Ice chest, building shit to last (early stage boomer shit, not late stage boomer shit), paying in cash, at least having SOME idea how engines work (not all but a lot), having an idea of how much labor is worth (these days they are still stuck in old school labor pricing though and think 40/50k a year is still good). I could probably find other things they actually got right, and id say some of my statements here are open to debate as well
Yes, early Boomer here. The '70s is when cars, amps, elec gtrs, appliances, etc. started getting made more cheaply. We 20-somethings didn't make those designs & decisions, we just worked at those companies for $3/hr. It was the older execs and CEOs ran the companies down.
I have this insanity in my brain where I wish to win the lottery so I can set aside enough money to never have to worry about money ever again while living a pretty modest life (there wouldn't be any normal signs that I got fuck u money would still drive, dress, and eat the same) and have the opportunity to be batman. Buy up or create good affordable rentals, create a property management company for those and more that pays well, and just keep going beyond that. Im not smart enough to know all>
The things, but thats why id hire ppl who do know these things and pay them well too. Then when the infrastructure for that is established and generating modest revenue (again i have my never work again money not tied to my ventures), keep building a community where things are made well, sustainable, and the jobs pay more than a living wage. These will still generate profits, which will go to sustaining and expanding the infrastructure of my mad science. Quite the fever dream
Boomers got that wrong. When they were young, owning was the only option, and then they invented subscribing and made it the only option available to us.
Nope, much later than that. There used to be electronics store that sold parts, as well as new appliances, so you could fix your own stuff. Some of those stores even had their own repair guy. They were well in decline in the 90s when i was a kid, but they were going strong in the 70s and 80s
Worth remembering that the electronics in question also cost vastly more. A washer and dryer set in the 60s and 70s cost more than an entire month’s worth of the median income, versus a few days’ worth now.
Growing up, along with our kitchen fridge, we had both a standard freezer and a chest freezer in the basement. Sale on X? Buy enough to store until it's on sale again.
It’ll be used in bulgogi and other stew type dishes. My wife is korean and amazing at cooking traditional dishes. They’re decent ribeyes but i prefer meeting the cow, buying, and having my steak butchered same week as eating it if it’s just a steak….
My parents had, at one point, three standard fridges, a drinks fridge on their back porch, two massive freezers large enough to freeze an entire deer, a smaller upright freezer and a smaller fridge dedicated to beer and water.
Ironically, when my dad won one of those glass-fronted drinks fridges they have at gas stations at a raffle, they decided they'd gone too far. These days, they make do with a mere three fridges and a normal-sized freezer.
My parents were affected by the Yugoslavian wars, they were afraid of not having enough food and not being able to leave the house to get more. There was a complicated system of what went in and what went out so there was as little waste as possible.
But yeah, that was the early 90s, growing awareness of how wasteful that was energy-wise made them downsize somewhere around 1998 or so.
On the one hand yeah, on the other it was weird living in a house that always had enough food to last the siege of Sarajevo twice over and having to check a flip chart in the kitchen before taking anything from the fridge.
I'm glad they scaled it back, though I also get the anxiety more, now that I'm older.
Feralkyn
The first one only applies if you have room for all that crap.
AnonOmis1000
My family had a basement fridge. Top tier.
IWouldLickThat
Both these need something I've never had, a garage.
Zixtank
One thing they got right, to a certain degree; too much modern entertainment will cause brain rot. I'm loathe to agree, but it's a good argument.
thebonesofmyancestors
Dude, halfway through your comment I had already swiped left on three hundred people, watched eleven videos on Imgur and enjoyed a documentary on YT about the blob fish. Now I forgot what timezone I'm in, my home address and how to spell my middle name. Then I got into an argument with my mom about not taking my ADHD meds. Ooops, my favorite show just dropped. Gotta binge it. TTFN
mastikator
Progressive tax and wealth tax
alt86er
Only working for a proper wage...
Karma1970
Unless the garage is climate controlled, the ideal temperature range for a refrigerator to operate efficiently is typically between 32°F & 90°F (0°C to 32°C). In an unheated garage, temperatures can fluctuate significantly, particularly in extreme weather conditions. Most refrigerators are designed to function well within this range, but exposure to excessive heat or cold can impair their performance.
I turned a spare bedroom into a home gym & that's where my second fridge & deep freezer is.
ionlyregisteredtosavelinks
Extra fridge is a lot of extra power consumption. No thanks.
bahukiba
If you get a good one it isn't that bad.
cenfou2tout
The funny thing is that if you are preoccupied by your energy bill you probably cannot afford a good second fridge (if can have a good first one that's already great)...
Degbis
That's true, not like I'm wealthy but when making a certain amount of money with no kids and someone says something like: dude that must get terrible gas mileage. I realized I hadn't even thought about it because 50-100 dollars was no longer scary for me to think I wouldn't have.
someguy7734206
I don't have a garage fridge (or a garage), but I do have a basement freezer, and it has proven itself quite useful.
thebonesofmyancestors
Well yeah. Where else are you supposed to store the bodies of your enemies?
turtle20314
family first.
zeacorzeppelin10
I have my mini fridge from college for beer.
Iwouldbenick
Mini fridge in my upstairs office for beer. Chest freezer in the basment. Largest fridge we could afford in the kitchen.
FfejNC
Graduated college in '89. Dorm fridge still going in thd garage!
tallquasi
Look who moved out of the dorm and straight into his own house. Late boomer/early X privileges.
YippeeKayakOB
Where I grew up (Denmark), the boomer generation built their own houses, and they were good at it too. They are good at building and repairing things. Younger people throw out so much stuff because they dont know how to repair it (also because things are not built for repair today).
Degbis
Lots of young people are extremely handy. Youtube can confirm, but perhaps the vast majority of people knowing simple fixes for common issues has plummeted thanks to the entire psyop that is enshittification.
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
I am polishing off a mega-pack of toilet paper that I bought in April of 2025.
stonetemplefox05
Lol well YOU'RE definitely a guy
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
Or… Maybe I’ve just got a bidet. ;)
verityauger
Leasing may be the fast track to an appearance of affluence, but equity will keep you warm at night.
PeteyVonWho
I will literally never buy enough food to fill the refrigerator i have, and I'm supposed to have an entire second fridge in the garage? No thanks.
SoGrosslyIncandescent
It depends on your situation. If you have the money available to buy a large quantity of something that will last while it's on sale, you will likely save money in the long run. IMO a freezer or a chest freezer is more useful than a second fridge because you can stock that thing full of meats and vegetables when they are cheaper and coast on that for a loooong time.
0Steve0
Years ago there was a study here in NZ that suggested that we weren't seeing the benefit of more energy efficient fridges because people just kept their old fridges for drinks etc after they bought a new one.
BeerCir
I have a beer fridge and it really is the best thing ever.
Renza0
not having a HOA was a good call
grandfalloon
I thought they basically invented HOAs.
Renza0
pretty sure they eventually did, but back when they bought their houses for like half a year's minimum wage pay, they didnt
ImperialForever
A broken clock is still right twice a day.
oldguyexlurker
When you find something you like, say a pair of shoes that fit perfectly, you buy as many as will last the rest of your life. When your last pair is wearing out, you know your time is up. Wait! That wasn't Boomers. That was Mr. Magorium! At any rate, he was right that they always discontinue that ONE thing... Buy 'em up if you can.
DaisyfromDownunder
Those Boomers like Bill Gates who developed MS and TimBL who invented the WWW ruined everything so that Millennials and Gen Whatevers had something to play with.
quasarvoyager2
Tim Berners Lee was just trying to share scientific work across a bunch of of incompatible computers at CERN, don't lump him in with creepy Bill. Pre Web 2.0 internet when it was all geocities and randomness and not huge "platforms" was actually pretty cool.
bingotown
Basement full fridge and chest freezer is the frickin’ bomb if you can do it.
cjpoet
My extra fridge is in the basement, and I chill my vodka there.
EmeraldNight
when i lived with 5 others i bought a mini fridge for my bedroom so i can stash my drinks in there. There was no risk of theft, our kitchen fridge was just on the smaller side.
sharK11
Mine is in the garage, it's a fridge/freezer combo (as most are I think), beer in the fridge, tequila and dog food in the freezer
Futchm
Taking full advantage of all the government's social support programs implemented by the greatest generation
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
What is this social security you speak of? If I quit work tomorrow best the government can do even here in "glorious Communist Germany" (according to the US) is making us collect bottle and can deposit for the rest of our disease ridden life.
bbchaz23
And then proceeding to kick the ladder so later generations could not have the same advantages. Fuck Reagan, Bush Sr. and Jr., Clinton, and Trump. Obama gets a free pass because he tried but I hope McConnell and Graham are both in hell freezing or getting their ass eaten by Satan.
AtmaDarkwolf
Kick it? Fuck man, they soaked it in napalm and burnt that shit down.
somethingstupidandclever
Ew. Satan has standards. Maybe forcing them to 69 ass eat each other for eternity. That's more like the satan i know.
grandpasonlylivingheir
So we burnt through it by collecting it? Sorry for being selfish. Take a look at the number of young ones who either didn’t vote or voted for Trump. But you keep hating your grandparents.
70percentMiserable
Dismantling federal social programs happened in the 80s and 90s before any of us could vote. It was framed as an act of empowering parents, states, localities. This was dwarfed by increased military spending and tax cuts. The result is always the same. Resources pool wherever wealth is already concentrated. Those without localized wealth are left behind.
Sticklebrickk
Before 1965, people could go to college for free. Free.
KillingTlme
My father in law got his doctorate in veterinary medicine from UC Davis for just under 2 months of part time work every summer. 8 years, graduated with 0 debt. This was in like 1966-74
eetsumkaus
I think the problem with that is that access due to the underlying primary and secondary school systems is highly income dependent. Free college will be a subsidy to higher income earners until that is fixed.
Sticklebrickk
That's fine and dandy when one man could afford a house, 2 1/2 kids, and own a car. Those times are long gone and are now locked behind a paywall.
eetsumkaus
It's the opposite. College itself is locked behind a paywall of adequately providing for your children and sending them to good schools. People who make more money already disproportionately get into college at higher rates. Making it free won't fix that (they're already accessible to lower income students as it is because of loans).
Sticklebrickk
"Making it free won't fix that."
Brother, if I had the time an energy without thinking about the debt having over me, I could have four degrees right now. Of course it's pay to play, and if you don't pay, you don't play. I had a teacher at my community college run after me in the hallway to tell me my $500 grant was being given to another student because I wasn't working hard enough. I was 19.
Working through all the bullshit, FAFSA, grants, loans. Bullshit. We should have fixed it long ago.
Doobiedog
Tax dollars are totally fine to go to billionaires, but I'll be damned if my less financially stable neighbor can use my tax dollars for education and possibly better society. BIG fucking /S on this one, you nob.
eetsumkaus
Opposite. College graduates are disproportionately higher income and have higher income prospects over their lifetime. Free college subsidizes people who come from better economic backgrounds and usually need less assistance as time goes on.
thejon
Not who you replied to, but I think you misread them. I think they're trying to say that because lower income families often don't have the same quality of primary & secondary schools, they also have a lower level of access to higher education. Because of that, just making college free would disproportionately benefit families already doing well, and so we must also fix the early education gap.
🤷♂️Idk, maybe I'm wrong but it sounded to me like they were on the right side of this one
HamSlamwich
Links please. I'm broke son.
Luorric
Hard to link something that had been taken away. They had more powerful labor unions., pensions, more federal funding in colleges (to the point a summer job could pay for it, before student loans were a thing), could still use the homestead act, had more access to housing subsidies, and the wealthy were taxed without a million loopholes.
But some of this got out of reach more recently. My gen-x mom bought her first house while working min wage at burger king. Same house costs over 5x more now
Futchm
They don't exist anymore because boomers burnt the ladder as they went up
AbolishNuance
That's not how ladders work, but it is how metaphors work. The reason being ladders aren't metaphors, usually.
RandomnessSlayer
Bro's never heard of a hook ladder... ya know, the one that can burn from the bottom up and not fall down...
It IS how hook ladders work, and it's a fitting metaphor... 🤷♂️ maybe don't abandon nuance?!
CallThisAUsername
Pedants are never welcome anywhere, and there's a reason for that.
nefroye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Trust_Fund. Peaked at about $3 trillion, expected to be depleted by boomers and run dry in 2034, at which point those receiving SS (mostly GenX) will get screwed by having their benefits cut.
yaeldroid
All we have to do is increase the cap for taxable income... you only have to pay on ~$400k. So someone who earns 1/2 of million or more a year pays the same amount of tax as the $400k earner. We should be taxing them the most!
nefroye
Actually the tax cap is $184k this year, not $400k.
However benefits are also capped, so it ends up being a wash, unless you turn it into a wealth transfer system, which SS wasn't designed to be. (there are other systems designed for that - e.g. Medicaid, SNAP, section 8 housing, etc.)
prosper020
When ever my boomer mom complains about social security all I can think is “at least you get to experience it, I’ll be paying into it most of my life and then it will just go away.”
nefroye
FWIW though - I don't so much blame the boomers. It's an actuarial problem; no one expected there to be so few births over the last few decades. There haven't been enough workers paying into the fund over the last 30-ish years. The boomers have taken advantage yes, but it's not actually their fault.
prosper020
The point of my comment was more about how my mother, and some other boomers, complain about SS being shitty or worrying about losing it before they die, while never acknowledging that their own children and grandchildren are also paying into the same pyramid scheme but will never see a cent of it. They are really good at yelling about their privileges being lessened while ignoring that their offspring have been, and forever will be denied said privileges altogether. And halfof them are to blame
dorpjorp
Person, the government started borrowing from social security funds to pay for all kinds of bullshit without a way to refill the coffers.
DamnYourePretty
Product longevity. My grandma's natural gas dryer lasted for close to 60 years. Our Samsung dryer lasted about 2 before its main board blew a capacitor the size of my fist.
crackblind
I've always wanted a garage fridge. Unfortunately I don't have a garage because I live in an apartment
nclu
When I was in a small space, there was the kitchen fridge, and my little old college fridge for the beverages. Then when I just want a gatorade, I'm not dumping the cold air from my produce
thebonesofmyancestors
Back when I was young (and stupid) as opposed to old (and stupid), I had two roommates and we lived in an apartment together. We ran an extension cord (a prime sample of said stupidity) and had a fridge on our tiny outdoor patio. Just enough room for the fridge, a small grill and one person. We made the most of it. Somehow we never started a fire or got electrocuted.
jnmjnmjnm
I like the garage fridge, but the logic falls down when you want to replace your kitchen fridge and demote it to the garage. I mean, if it still works, why replace it? If it is not energy efficient, why keep it?
Evi1Gav
Depending on the house layout, garage fridges are usually really useful for BBQs and garden parties, as people don't need to walk into the house to get another beer.
Nalianna
and sometimes i have people at my BBQ's that i dont' really want in and out of my house frequently.
becuzz04
Sometimes you replace your fridge for reasons other than being broken. We moved into a house once that had the most basic fridge you can imagine. My wife wanted something with an ice maker. So we replaced the fridge and moved the old one to the basement.
BlindGardener
My grandparent’s ‘garage fridge’ was a chest freezer, not a fridge. It was larger than the kitchen freezer and usually full of ancient frozen meat. Some of the meat had expiration dates from before the year I was born. Some of it expired before my parents were born.
jnmjnmjnm
That’s a different thing.
My boomer parents used to buy beef by the “side” and my dad hunted deer, geese, and ducks.
homemadechef
It might not be keeping temperature for meat and dairy but beer and soda are fine.
IamnotarobitIseethenumber2
Depends on what you want to chill. in some cases a deep freezer makes more sense for the garage.
DongleDingler
So you just replace the deep freezer in the kitchen and move it to the garage? I'm not following the correlation
IamnotarobitIseethenumber2
instead of using an old fridge, get a more energy efficient deep freeze. make more sense meow?
nefroye
Is your old fridge *that* much less efficient, that it would require less energy to actually build a whole new fridge than to continue using the old one? The "reuse" part of reduce/reuse/recycle comes to mind here.
jnmjnmjnm
Good point. That and the fact that many new appliances only last 5-6 years.
nefroye
Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a major appliance last less than 15 years. (That said - my last fridge crapped out 5 years after I bought the house with it, not sure how old it was, is may have been under 15)
jnmjnmjnm
During Covid, lots of companies cut QA visits to component suppliers, with predictable results.
anononanonanona
These days your thought process is valid. Just 20 years ago and not even close, refrigeration tech has advanced in efficiency massively in the last 20 years or so. That is why you’re going to get division on this topic.
UNHchabo
If your garage is colder than the house most of the year, that would reduce the impact of the fridge being lower efficiency, wouldn't it?
SilverFoxChaser
If the environment is too cold a lot of refrigerators won't chill leading to food loss. Need to check the specs before sticking it in the garage
yesdearmetoo
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MHp5aXA1N2tydjVueW4wampmNnoxbGM2MzkwdTk2eWgwZTNjb2VzdiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/IjJ8FVe4HVk66yvlV2/200w.webp
Ghlargh
Even if they don't stop working they might lose efficiency if the environment is too cold, and use more electricity despite the temperature difference being smaller.
philmoregraves
Ice chest, building shit to last (early stage boomer shit, not late stage boomer shit), paying in cash, at least having SOME idea how engines work (not all but a lot), having an idea of how much labor is worth (these days they are still stuck in old school labor pricing though and think 40/50k a year is still good). I could probably find other things they actually got right, and id say some of my statements here are open to debate as well
GuitarBobMonterey
Yes, early Boomer here. The '70s is when cars, amps, elec gtrs, appliances, etc. started getting made more cheaply. We 20-somethings didn't make those designs & decisions, we just worked at those companies for $3/hr. It was the older execs and CEOs ran the companies down.
philmoregraves
I have this insanity in my brain where I wish to win the lottery so I can set aside enough money to never have to worry about money ever again while living a pretty modest life (there wouldn't be any normal signs that I got fuck u money would still drive, dress, and eat the same) and have the opportunity to be batman. Buy up or create good affordable rentals, create a property management company for those and more that pays well, and just keep going beyond that. Im not smart enough to know all>
philmoregraves
The things, but thats why id hire ppl who do know these things and pay them well too. Then when the infrastructure for that is established and generating modest revenue (again i have my never work again money not tied to my ventures), keep building a community where things are made well, sustainable, and the jobs pay more than a living wage. These will still generate profits, which will go to sustaining and expanding the infrastructure of my mad science. Quite the fever dream
wickerandcork
Owning is better than subscribing.
imjustabill495
Infinitely
FiveShiftOne
Boomers got that wrong. When they were young, owning was the only option, and then they invented subscribing and made it the only option available to us.
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
Yes but I just have to get to a point where I can 1.) afford a down payment and 2.) sock away enough in savings in case repairs are needed.
Morg729
Repairing before replacing (probably more depression era though)
doobiedoobop
Nope, much later than that. There used to be electronics store that sold parts, as well as new appliances, so you could fix your own stuff. Some of those stores even had their own repair guy. They were well in decline in the 90s when i was a kid, but they were going strong in the 70s and 80s
MoltenBerle
Worth remembering that the electronics in question also cost vastly more. A washer and dryer set in the 60s and 70s cost more than an entire month’s worth of the median income, versus a few days’ worth now.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RadioShack
LegsAreOverrated
Growing up, along with our kitchen fridge, we had both a standard freezer and a chest freezer in the basement. Sale on X? Buy enough to store until it's on sale again.
YpsilantiRomani
Yup 19.8 cu ft chest freezer in the basement
UNHchabo
Technology Connections has a neat video on chest freezers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGAhWgkKlHI
shitheadtookmyname
I wish homes were designed to have chest fridges. So much better for energy efficiency and the cost to build
doesTheUNmatter
We lived on a farm, we had a cow butchered for us one year, lasted us like 4/5 years in the chest freezer in the basement.
smashpro1
Sounds a lot like the deer that we had die on our property.
astrangehop
"this deer fell off a truck"
ThinkThisOut
20 ribeyes for $39.99. Didn’t need it but had just enough space in the garage freezer. Too good a deal to pass up!
riverpubby
That’s crazy, i want two dollar steaks 😭
shitheadtookmyname
Fyi red meat doesn't go bad in the freezer but the quality goes down
astrangehop
The deep freeze helps because it has fewer defrost cycles iirc. It's worse after freezing, but it won't get freezerburn as much
ThinkThisOut
It’ll be used in bulgogi and other stew type dishes. My wife is korean and amazing at cooking traditional dishes. They’re decent ribeyes but i prefer meeting the cow, buying, and having my steak butchered same week as eating it if it’s just a steak….
RuthlessRuben
My parents had, at one point, three standard fridges, a drinks fridge on their back porch, two massive freezers large enough to freeze an entire deer, a smaller upright freezer and a smaller fridge dedicated to beer and water.
Ironically, when my dad won one of those glass-fronted drinks fridges they have at gas stations at a raffle, they decided they'd gone too far. These days, they make do with a mere three fridges and a normal-sized freezer.
shitheadtookmyname
Lmao just fuck up the environment bc you can't walk to the next room for a beer
RuthlessRuben
My parents were affected by the Yugoslavian wars, they were afraid of not having enough food and not being able to leave the house to get more. There was a complicated system of what went in and what went out so there was as little waste as possible.
But yeah, that was the early 90s, growing awareness of how wasteful that was energy-wise made them downsize somewhere around 1998 or so.
shitheadtookmyname
Badass parents. I met a grandma the other day who was a paramilitary during a war of independence before she had kids.
RuthlessRuben
On the one hand yeah, on the other it was weird living in a house that always had enough food to last the siege of Sarajevo twice over and having to check a flip chart in the kitchen before taking anything from the fridge.
I'm glad they scaled it back, though I also get the anxiety more, now that I'm older.