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She complains that people didn't want to hear her speak. The article is pretty biased, so I won't link.
Edit to add: The Russians must be awake, post and every comment on this post just got hit with 20-50 downvotes while transphobes got huge boosts to their comments. We see you.
Evi1Gav
She had her right to freedom of expression. She was there to talk and was given a platform. That's all the right gives you. Other people have the right to protest your stupid fucking viewpoint, your divisive rhetoric, and to disrupt your ability to spread hate. If you are too stupid to understand that, then the university have overestimated your ability to impart information.
Superchief86
But she did express herself. She got given a platform and everything. People just expressed themselves back. That's how it works.
emu314159127001
You don't have "freedom of expression" from non government entities even in the US, so unless hate speech is protected under that university charter, bitch needs to STFU
LookingLikeASnack
Read the article. Definitely biased given that it doesn't actually lay out any of her views.
What could she possibly sue for? It's not like the venue organized the protest. The only thing criminal was a fire alarm being pulled and that's a criminal concern rather than a civil one, and it isn't the fault of the venue either. She says the venue was vulnerable to protest and that barring undergrads from attending the event contributed to the problem. How, exactly? Seems like a cash grab lawsuit.
ScottPilgrimVSTheIndians
Becaus it is. That's the grift of these hate-filled bigots today.
Telemapus
She has short hair. In certain states in the US, she'd be questioned if she tried to go into a female toilet.
LZYRMN
I like how imgur hates Trump and Epstein and then downvotes people for explaining how this lady is a cunt.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Yep. Lots of transphobes still lingering on here.
somethingnotyettaken
See, the trouble with this. Ordinary people protesting is not impinging on your freedom to speak. You spoke and they told you to fuck off. Never being allowed to speak in the first place, by a government or institution, is when your rights are being impinged. You have the right to voice your opinion, and others have the right to tell you to go fuck yourself.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Also, "the government" has no right to stop your speech. Other citizens have no right to stop speech you make on your own property. HOWEVER: The owner of the property you are making use of to promote your speech has a right to moderate your speech. If you send something to a web server you don't own then that server admin has a legal right to delete it. If you make a speech at a school the school can set whatever rules it wants (within certain guidelines by accreditation and gov grants) 1/?
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
That's only legal rights. The moral rights when it comes to public perception is what you're really trying to win. Being a shithead who gets banned is legally and morally right, being a cool person who gets banned is legally acceptable but has moral repercussions that can harm the speaker and the forum involved. Streisand effect and all. 2/2
Omnimorph2112
Oh look, it's temu JK Rowling.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
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iamgnat
I got $5 that says that cunt is either already bankrolling this POS or will be funding her litigation.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
It's really funny seeing how afraid people are of hearing trans people and just the average person standing up for themselves and trans people as a whole.
They're justified in feeling afraid that society is moving away from needing gender roles to define ourselves and worth in the world.
They are justified in feeling afraid that their ilk are dying out and being erased.
Love and respect for the actually decent people of this world will win. Bigots will all die out sooner rather than later.
ElbowDeepInABlackhole
yesdearmetoo
Quiet, piggy
BarryTheCyborg
Kill yourself
ruint
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Sullivan
"study was published by the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology in 2025, but has been criticised by some due to her relationship with the gender critical group Sex Matters.">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Matters_(advocacy_group)
Not mentioning that she was protested for being the veneer of credibility on a hate group is bias by omission and a massive failing of journalistic integrity.
gamer2k4
What did you find biased about the article? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/22/gender-lecture-protests-bristol-university-alice-sullivan
AwfulTiger
I'm always worried when women feel physically threatened by men.
ruint
The article doesn't mention at all why people were protesting her, which is the only possible way to cast a terf shitbag in a possitive light.
TERFs are professional hecklers, if they don't like being heckled they should leave transfolk alone.
worm61
She’s part of a hate movement using a university’s platform to peddle bigoted pseudoscience as legitimate research. Portraying her as simply an innocent visiting academic is itself biased. False neutrality in the face of oppression is complicity.
gnomedeplume
it was printed by The Guardian
emu314159127001
The salient bit, that she's a TERF, is buried. "Her other work includes a review commissioned by the Conservative government and published in March 2025 of barriers to research on sex and gender in which she recommended that data on biological sex and gender identity should be recorded as distinct categories." The rest of the article is her point of view, that she felt she wasn't able to make her hateful TERF points because hecklers and protesters shouted her down. As they should
SofaH3ro
I don't think it was overtly biased, but it did only report from the speaker and administration's side, and didn't flesh out the perspective of the protesters in my opinion. The Guardian is usually a bit better than this about holding the middle ground.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
...everything? She's a terf, a self proclaimed 'gender critical academic', who was there to give a hate-filled speech. The article treats her like just a random person whose free speech was impinged upon for no reason.
Imagine if other things were reported this way. An arsonist would be reported as "Heat enthusiast considers legal action over violent group sprays warmth instalation with unified liquid".
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Oof, transphobes on here en mass today downvotin.
RyvaTheRenamon
Yeah it's really bad tonight. This is the most i've seen in a while ngl. My comment down below got smoked by em for pointing out that using a megaphone at a protest against these people is infact peoples right lmao
dragonsdemesne
It's not that biased, it doesn't even say which side of the argument she's on.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
And it clearly says what side she's on when it contains quoted statements in her own words.
ruint
Bias by omission, not including the greivance of the protesters casts them as a mob. Wikipedia is brief but drops the hint:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Sullivan
"study was published by the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology in 2025, but has been criticised by some due to her relationship with the gender critical group Sex Matters.">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Matters_(advocacy_group)
ShmooThaSchmuck
That’s the bias
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
"it's not that biased"
Any amount of bias is bias.
It isn't a gradient scale.
Writing an article that someone was there to speak about a topic nobody wanted to hear but not mentioning specifically why they didn't wanna hear it isn't misinformation, but it was an actively chosen omission.
Cornchip2000
I prefer the acronym FARTS- "feminism appropriating radical transphobes."
khora
How do we know she is a feminist?
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
She isn't. She really isn't. She's an anti-trans activist.
Bojovnik84
I call these people tunts. Terf cunts.
NicronusPrime
Lol. suffer in yer jocks, terfy!
FrankGrenadine
Best way to fight bad speech is with free speech
WindowStreetJournal
Free speach does not include violence and threats.
FrankGrenadine
Exactly. Free speech can be jn favor of violence (eg there was famous ACLU case in US about Nazis marching in Skokie) but violence and threats themselves should be illegal. Let this woman blather on at whatever place will have her but the moment she puts a finger (or threatens to put a finger) on a trans person the British authorities should put her in jail .
Allrighty
I'm glad you agree that TERFs should not be platformed. However, considering that the establishment still very much insists on doing so, whilst marginalising and disadvantaging dissenting voices, there is no fair debate to be had here.
Allrighty
Or, to put it in clearer terms, when one side is consistently heard and the other side is consistently repressed, then insisting that the repressed ones "just use their free speech" to counter the massive propaganda machine propping up their opposition is just disingenuous. One side is already not allowed to be heard, but they have to allow the other side to be heard "in the name of free speech"? That's clearly a biased stance.
worm61
Maybe not, but they’re still justified against a violent hate movement perpetrating a genocide.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
Pushing a MINORITY in to a dangerous corner that prosecutes them, forces them to hide their identifies, exposes them to danger.
And then when they lash out or push back you cry "WAHH THEY'RE SO VIOLENT, SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT"
Gaslighting 101.
Get bent.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
Prove the violence and threats. You can't.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
WindowStreetJournal
Your latin sucks, just as your constant whining.
TorrentialUpPour
Why are you getting so emotional?
Khanamana324
Says the constantly whining bigot.
nccomputermechanics4
Terf is something that is made to step on be it grass sod or trans exclusionary radical feminists.
WindowStreetJournal
@OP Seriously, the Russians?
Why on earth would they sacrifice resources to change number of fake points on a topic only a few people cares about, on a platform which is obviously and echo chamber?
Do you really totally rule it out that actual users of Imgur expressed their opinions about the cited, unbiased reporting of The Guardian and/or your approach to it?
I blame the Russians for a lot of things, but not for up/downvotes on Imgur, because the whole function is a joke to begin with.
TAMUhowdy82
Man, considering every single comment in your history is negative, maybe you have a point. I doubt there are as many miserable people as you on here taking the time to downvote all of these posts, every day, minutes after they are posted.
CarInAVet
Russian bots attempting to influence Western political opinions across various social media sites is a well-documented problem. So while we may or may not be able to say for sure that that's happening on this specific post, if a post on an "echo chamber" site suddenly gets a LOT of comments and votes opposite of the prevailing opinion on that site, it's pretty reasonable to be suspicious.
WindowStreetJournal
It's a day before xmas, lots of people at home, not at work, not doing anything, bored and using Imgur in higher frequency than usually. They also have more time to engage and vote and comment.
Imgur is so uninportant, it would be idioticly vain for the users here to think that we, the posts and the votes have any significance whatsoever, when it comes to geopolitics.
CarInAVet
Sure, we're each just one ant. My opinion by itself isn't really a whole lot of anything. But add up lots of folks' opinions across a global network, give them the means and motivation to DO something, and suddenly you've got a whole lot of something. That whole lot of something is greater than the sum of its parts, but also wouldn't exist without each individual. So yeah, we DO matter, and anyone who tries this hard to convince us otherwise is likely lying to keep us from realizing it.
WindowStreetJournal
Alright, then I'm missing a paycheck from GRU.
ScottPilgrimVSTheIndians
EstoyPoopis
LOL listen to this armchair genius.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
"Конечно, Джен"
WindowStreetJournal
You are entering the tinfoil-hat zone, not that such a place should be new for you.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
"Конечно, Джен"
WindowStreetJournal
Out of reaction GIFs? Maybe Дед Мороз brings you a few new ones.
ScottPilgrimVSTheIndians
GreatOdinsTaint
Accurate headline - "Asshole gets to exercise free speech. Complains that others get the same right. Threatens legal action against basic freedoms."
gamer2k4
Your rights stop where another person's rights start. Banging on windows, shouting over someone with megaphones, and setting off fire alarms aren't free speech.
Toqom
They really don't, though
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
They have free agency as humans. And her claims have zero proof.
If she had a real case to make she wouldn't be whining about it in the media. She would be in court right now.
Also Terfs aren't people. Get over it.
RyvaTheRenamon
Actually, shouting over someone with a megaphone is infact, free speech.
1992sSisterActStarringWhoopiGoldberg
It may be different in the UK, but in the US pulling fire alarms isn't covered under free speech. The act, in and of itself in absence of an actual threat from fire is illegal.
RyvaTheRenamon
Did i say that pulling fire alarms is free speech?
1992sSisterActStarringWhoopiGoldberg
It was in the laundry list of items the 'activists' did that you replied to but ignored in your reply. I assume you did so in order to make a strawman argument along the lines of 'tHEy just uSEd mEGapHOnes' or something like that. But no, they were assholes doing illegal activities. So I figured I'd call it out. I mean, why cherrypick, amiright?
LtRooney
Aww, were people mean to the evil bigot? Good.
AspiringAuthor123
Easy, get a louder megaphone
neithermenoryou
So her rights to free speech ended when she started denying the existence of trans people, I'm so glad you agree the retaliation was appropriate defense.
gamer2k4
I can look at the United States Bill of Rights and find "the right to free speech" in there. I sure can't find "the right to be trans."
neithermenoryou
The pursuit of happiness covers that quite nicely, can't pursue that when bigots constantly yell at you.
gamer2k4
So any time you make someone unhappy, you're violating their basic rights? What if it makes me happy to, say, spray paint graffiti on peoples' houses? Since you don't have the right to a graffiti-free house, shouldn't my right to happiness trump everything else?
gnomedeplume
people who work towards the eradication of a marginalised group deserve no civility or peace
LeoGrun19401
I don't agree with her views but I can imagine she assumed the venue who booked her actually wanted her to do her talk.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
AFAIK she booked herself
PineappleLoopsBroether
Hey, why is that guy getting downvoted? They’re trying to say that the school is a source of corruption we should ALSO focus on.
That’s not a bad thing to say. Get ALL the bad guys.
The school had to have hired her, that’s how that works. They get paid a LOT. Also, they don’t have “the first amendment” in England.
RyvaTheRenamon
There's a swarm of downvoters out tonight targetting anyone who has anything remotely negative to say about this woman or her beliefs it appears.
PineappleLoopsBroether
So, this woman is a positive character in the pro-trans category? Why does the graphic say she’s a turf? Sorry for asking, I don’t have the focus to cross examine the article.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
She's a TERF, she's anti-trans. The swarm of down voters are anti-trans bots.
LeoGrun19401
According to the BBC article she was invited by the University. Which means she was possibly paid and had a contract to give a talk which it appears she was not able to complete. Possibly she has to sue them so they don't sue her for failing to fulfil her contract and the content of her talk has nothing to do with the legal process going on. Her 'right' to speech is based on OfS guidelines and other assorted laws (not the American First Amendment). https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyx3y84ln9o
PineappleLoopsBroether
Why are you getting downvoted? Your thesis statement is essentially that there are bad guys within the university we should also focus on, right?
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Right? There are some transphobes going through the comments here commenting and downvoting.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I mean… OP seems to be disagreeing with you, which is confusing. Nobody is explaining anything so, it’s not good communication here. I’ve literally begged to understand some arguments lately and it’s just downvotes, and no conversation that clears anything up. It’s like I have to scream that I’m not a republican sometimes. Fuck me for not knowing something here and there.
medimr
Is she actually a feminist, or just yet another conservative transphobe?
Either way, good. Keep shouting down unrepentant bigots.
Mithi
"gender.critic" so the latter
somebackup
You can't be a feminist and a terf. Those two things are diametrically opposed.
medimr
I mean, feminist is literally part of the term "TERF." Which is why I don't really like it. Just call them transphobes...anything else just launders their bigotry.
akafluffy
yeah, we've been trying to change the acronym to Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobes for a while, but they whine about being FARTs more than TERFs even.
cuddleskunk
It does technically contain the word "feminist", but more accurately, it contains the phrase "radical feminist/ism". "Radical Feminism" is its own movement that is basically "female supremacy"...not a fight for gender equality. It got its start in the mysticism half of an early divergence point...the "feminine mystique" thing. Nowadays, you'll find some of them arguing that y chromosomes are "incomplete", and therefore anyone without 2 X chromosomes is not a full person. Yes...really.
LtRooney
The DPRK called themselves a democratic republic. You can call yourself anything.
somebackup
Someone co-opting the term and deciding it means something else doesn't really change anything.
OutspokenHBW
I prefer Feminism Appropriating Reactionary Transphobe, myself.
onlyhalfghost
reducing a woman to functioning ovaries is about as far from feminism as I can imagine, but hey, I'm not a TERF.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Conservative transphobic asshole
CrabbyBlueberry
Conservative Ultra Nationalist Transphobe.
ParryLost
Feminism-Appropriating Radical Transphobe
backrideup9
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medimr
This is much more appropriate than TERF. :)
InitHello
Ain't nothing radical about transphobia.
akafluffy
wrong kind of radical, radical as in the noun, not the adjective.
WindowStreetJournal
Here's the link for those who want to be properly informed, the article is quite fair. Maniacs, who threaten decent people should be jailed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/22/gender-lecture-protests-bristol-university-alice-sullivan
TyphoonMuscles
Good thing she's not a decent person.
LtRooney
Aww, was someone mean to the evil bigot? Did that hurt your poor little fee-fees? Good.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
You are calling for her to be jailed? You are normally so transphobic, I'm glad you've seen the light.
WindowStreetJournal
I'm never transphobic, just jerkphobic or hysterical activistphobic. Decent, quiet people never bother me.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
You like it when minorities suffer silently. Got it.
Allrighty
"Hysterical activists" huh... you would've fit right in with the anti-suffragettes with that language, with the same calls for decorum.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
Supporting people that are transphobic and suggesting they have a right to be heard is no different from being transphobic.
If people are loud and proud as part of a historically marginalised minority and that bothers you then you are the problem.
worm61
Then why is your comment history full of you attacking everyone from sex workers to gender nonconforming gay people. You’ve said gay people have to “act straight” to not make you sick, you think all furrries are zoophiles (they aren’t), all anime is pedophilic (it isn’t), and you are weirdly obsessed with OnlyFans creators. Yet you don’t have a single comment attacking fascists. It seems you ONLY hate decent, quiet people.
worm61
And that’s not even getting into the RAMPANT ableism you display by calling everything you don’t like mental illness.
WindowStreetJournal
I'm always surprised how much time some people has to look up comment history of strangers they disagree with, and then create personality analysis based on those random comments. I comment when I'm bored or frustrated, and on things I disagree with. Maybe you noticed the amount of antifa posts here, and that I never commented on those - no need for that, I agree with them fully. Oh, and your additions in my "analysis" is just your opinion, outside of this echo chamber lots of people agree w me.
worm61
It took me two minutes to find all those examples. I didn’t exactly need to do a deep dive. Your hatred is plainly displayed. And it doesn’t matter how many people agree with you. There are always other bigots to make bigots feel safe.