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kiddub
Well this makes up for all the unwarranted shootings of unarmed citizens, everyone can go home.
Exeliser
RagePhish
Get your own slogan for you cause
totallyNotaGovernment
oh boy here we go
bigevil13
Cue up the arm chair experts.
CorneliusCornwall
As an expert of chairs of the armed variety I'm always cued up
freas
Im no expert, but I can say from experience that they are comfortable
dajustifier
1/2 Being a cop is dangerous though 2013/15 were the safest in 100 yrs at least 1200 were killed by cops though not diluting the loss though
dajustifier
2/2 I mourn all. Also many of those who share that flag also the protest the LQBT version. It's risker to be gay than a cop most of the US.
theneondemon
this BS when you want to be a cop you know what it entitles, stop trying to get sympathy for being a cop It's what you signed up for.
petrovmendicant
Had to look up what it meant to get the post. Wasn't worth it.
ThePrimrose
There are good cops there are bad cops. But when good cops protect bad cops it makes all of them look like bad cops.
DamnedAustin
*When good cops protect bad cops, it makes them bad cops.
SalsaCat
Wish there were more details or video from the surveillance. Don't know if she used everything but the gun or if she was thinking 1/2
SalsaCat
That she needs to shoot the guy before trying to take, or fight back in any way possible. Not enough details 2/2
Baja2185
There are plenty of details. A man fighting a cop MUST kill or permanently incapacitate to get away. That is a deadly threat. Shoot them.
DamnedAustin
No.
Baja2185
Sorry? How is this not true?
DamnedAustin
Oh, I don't know, the hundreds of thousands of police altercations that have been resolved without just shooting the suspect.
angelxaces
I feel part of the problem is that cops receive minimal training in resolving situations without drawing some form of weapon.
ILIKETurtlesAndTrains
it's not that you fool. all the training in the world won't save you from someone shooting you. you can't karate shoo a bullet in mid flight
sistermaryclarenceIII
found the drunk
kiddub
Why do we assume cops are being shot at record levels when they aren't?
AnthonyPeterson
Because this world is pretty fucking weird, and people will believe what fits what they think, not what fits reality.
AnthonyPeterson
I don't think there is much of a chance that the person against her had a gun, if he was attempting to physically assault her instead.
Clocke138
Posting this because I am trying to find the best way to post reaction gifs:
Clocke138
No relevance.
BulletAnt93
It may be an unpopular opinion but creating a blue lives matters movement will only leave us further divided with more tension.
lenomdeplume
There are lots of bad actors in the black community, criminals and hoaxers(ProfImani Perry & Univ Albany trio). There is Michael Slager too.
sistermaryclarenceIII
this is awful logic. you know that people choose to be cops right? including black people? you know that being black isn't a choice right?
lenomdeplume
??? Offering factual examples of people lying about police misconduct isn't "logic", it's reality.
lenomdeplume
The cameras are essential. In a Rialto CA, use of force complaints dropped over 60% since body cams introduced. Debunks hoaxes as well.
lenomdeplume
Some small PD's have abandoned using them due costs of storing video data. Can this be real? Vids only used when out of patrol car?
BulletAnt93
Can we all just agree all lives matter, and make cops wear personal cameras to prove legitimacy in lethal force.
sistermaryclarenceIII
you still don't understand.did you not see the phillando get shot for no reason, on camera? personal cameras won't change anything.
ImHereToTellYouThatsWrong
we could, except specific groups are treated as if their lives do not, so we need a movement aimed at drawing attention to that fact
ImHereToTellYouThatsWrong
also: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/chicago-police-officers-tampered-with-dash-cams.html it's not enough
Hydr0p0nik
Totally agree with you on both your comments but as long as the public has access to m&p style weapons it will never change. S
mcupobob
Hope they get better, I appreciate an officer that puts the constitution and due process first and foremost.
mcstu0
Be excellent to each other
mnorthwood13
Had a teen with a BAC over .18 get taxed instead of shot to try and save him as he was charging officer with knife, taze killed him and 1
mnorthwood13
2 parents tried to sue cops saying they could have just grabbed him. Case was thrown out and neglect charges were charged to the parents 2
mnorthwood13
3 because they bought the kid the booze.
papaox
http://imgur.com/6wwUe
ezzmann
Dahahahaha
Septagrim
This is the logical conclusion of grievance culture.
BrockenSpectre
If your only choice was to either shoot or not shoot then you should get back to training.
Baja2185
Found the moron
lenomdeplume
Winston Churchill said, " We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us. ". Amen.
lenomdeplume
I'm assuming some of you recognize that name....or not.
ImHereToTellYouThatsWrong
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." - Winston Churchill
ImHereToTellYouThatsWrong
"I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes ... [It] would spread a lively terror." - Also Winston Churchill.
lenomdeplume
"Yes madam, it is true ...I am very drunk. And are you are ugly, very ugly. But in the morning I shall no longer be drunk."
lenomdeplume
Too many "are".
dialysisinflictor
She shouldn't be a cop, if the only two choices she has in this situation are to shoot him or get an ass kicking.
Liquidbullets
Out of curiosity, you saying females shouldn't be cops?
dialysisinflictor
Absolutely not. I am concerned that some cops are not physically capable of protecting themselves without using deadly force.
TheDuke0fHazzard
What's the usual third option when dealing with a violent, intoxicated actor?
Baja2185
Let them kill you
supermegaultracharizard
Can we all just please stop being violent and shooting each other? That's what underground fight clubs and the military are for.
Notareptilian
You broke the first rule
PrincessCatBucket
Vague fight clubs instead of one specific one so it's okay, I think.
supermegaultracharizard
Crytaz
You did it. You stopped the violence
perseco
You missed a keyword in there... "drugs".
snicklefritz2
You did it! You stopped violence with your comment! Congrats!
GhostsofAcid
Can't we just do really fucking painful ammo that immobilizes instead?
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
RIP Rounds?
Baja2185
Lol. Pretty much
sirmilkymilk
Less than lethal rounds are already a thing.
Baja2185
No, there will always be people who need shooting.
3vieTheEevee
Two of them are trying to get into the white house
Baja2185
immaCanucktoo
So, she had no taser? No back up? No billy club? No training? No pepper spray? No legs to walk away?
FirstArchetype
Example of what drugs can do. Person. Had "superhuman strength." http://ind.pn/2bkG0me
papaox
You're a special kind of stupid.
beerire
Legs to walk away? Ummm. What? That's not how it works. At all.
FirstArchetype
Most likely, if he was on some form of psychoactive drug, she probably tazed him, or could have, and it would have done nothing.
Liquidbullets
Also pepper spray and tasers are known to fail more often against clientele under the influence
fromalkaliflats
Clientele? Clientele? Excuse me officer, your 3 o'clock is here. Have them wait in the lobby, I'll be there in a minute.
Baja2185
Youre stupid. Also they deployed a taser 3 to 4 times. Tasers are what you use when you dont mind dying that day.
iprobablydontlikeyou
Easier said than done...and cops can't just walk away, its their job not to walk away.
ezzmann
Shit...U never should've said (walk away) everyone's gona focus on just that and not the other important shit u said
Igotbannedforspammingthatstupidparrot
3 officers were hospitalized
anglergal
Your ignorance disgusts me.
TheDuke0fHazzard
Good idea, if a criminal is too dangerous, the cops should walk away. Violent rape? Not mah problem. Not all cops have tasers/pepper spray.
Liquidbullets
Plus less lethal fails much more often against someone under the influence of a substance
TheDuke0fHazzard
Even more reason to about face and just walk away so you don't shoot someone. It's just violent crime. Stand up for yourself!
CFeels
You can't walk away as an officer. You're swoen to protect and serve. Walking away from a situation goes against those vows.
TheDuke0fHazzard
I was being sarcastic brah, we agree haha
Liquidbullets
No legs to walk away. Yup. That's it cops should stop confronting danger and run.
mcupobob
Prefer they do that then rather gun down a person everytime a moth farts near them.
Liquidbullets
1) Yes, there have been instances where cops have escalated and shot people with no cause. Despite narrative and purposeful division, these
Liquidbullets
3) way. This story is an instance of assault with serious injury on an officer, not a moth fart. You up to speed with the convo now?
Liquidbullets
2) instances are extremely fucking rare. Hell, half the riots are over a guy getting shot that had a gun on him. That bullshit out of the
thegarthok
Seriously, did she undergo no training beyond point and shoot the baddies?
fuck123456789
They didn't
Liquidbullets
Training is great, but size and being on something can help in a fight too.
OverwhelmingNeedForSources
Maybe if you can't subdue criminals without killing them you shouldn't be a cop.
immaCanucktoo
and he was intoxicated to boot...
FirstArchetype
Certain drugs are different than a depressant like alcohol. People can be so jacked up they throw people through the air & Rip faces off
thegarthok
If they want us to believe this is because of anti-cop mentality and not poor training, show us the surveillance footage that was captured.
immaCanucktoo
You spelled "deleted" wrong...
FirstArchetype
We don't get to see the footage because we're not qualified to analyze it. Its good they don't show footage to everyone who asks for it.
FirstArchetype
Not everyone who clicks a 5 minute YouTube video by some random person with a shaky camera is an expert on law, or escalation of force