Oct 29, 2022 7:25 PM
SpottieOttieDopalisciousAngel
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americancheese1
See also: Ticket fucking master
thatguyfromny
Forgot the "hand over the piggy bank" fee.
ambalika
2% for looking in the mirror twice https://youtu.be/WWzBtuGsXGc?t=183
keybladers
What is this, Ticketmaster?
bkmurf
Texas?
andaction
My city started charging watershed fees (runoff from rain). That despite already having a sewer maintenance fee.
Aefinn
This is an edit from old Ticketmaster post. Exact same fees. Still accurate though.
Detmig
Covfefe
thereitis101
Biden is trying to end this BS
CaptainYesterday
Don't remember if it's electric or gas, but utility I have, charges $4 to pay the bill....
Drakknfyre
Water bill's also like that in some areas. My city will happily charge you for sewage if you're on a septic tank unless you correct them...
and they'll also charge you for neighborhood storm drain maintenance when literally no neighborhood around you for miles has any.
They also went from a annual $49 trash pickup tag to $10/month extra put on your water bill. They claimed it was "more convenient" than
having to buy an annual tag. Yeah, also more convenient for them that suddenly everyone was paying ~3X the price for the same service, too.
MmmmmSoup
I luckily rent a place with solar panels so I'm in the credit haven't paid more then $40 in the whole year I've lived here
Allaboutweimsoranythingreally
AT&T bill
DaisyfromDownunder
This left out the $2 paper invoice fee.
squelcheswetly
My property taxes look like this, too.
Munchman347
Last three bills, the 'fees and charges' exceeded the cost of the electricity. WTF?...
Clarysage
I want solar panels. And land to put the solar panels on.
SoundFuture
Why land though? Rooftop solar is the bees knees.
I rent and my house is a grade 2 listed building. What I'd really like is a boat with solar on the roof, but land will do!
Eiladar
Looks like our cable bill. We actually had to pay a fee for _not_ subscribing to the sports package.
dough4you
Don't forget the not paying attention tax!
LikeAwkwardlySocial
Forgot taxes
Kightzeareau
Somebody with some credibility should do a proper price assessment on how much is being used and how much is unjustly being overcharged.
OCTAVlAN
Ya'll can still afford electricity?
joot
Btw in most places you can offset half your energy usage with renewable sources for free via Arcadia.
molotovity
Charged my wife for a room, the baby for the same room, and food for both. My wife is his food bitch!
scoutMoonDiver
Don’t forget the $40 surcharge to rebuild the electrical grid, complements of Greg Abbott.
Richter12x2
He already caused my rate to go up 60 percent.
jojoyojimbi
how are the state republicans blaming it on biden?
Frederf
Wonder if they ever will. What's a $1.37 Governor Yacht fee?
They've done quite a lot actually, but we will only ever learn if they did too little.
Soufange
If ever there was an incentive to green up your house in Texas it's Greg push-his-chair-off-a-cliff-like-he's-a-young-Paul-Rudd Abbott
BaloneyBob
irmonkey
My last propane delivery actually had more fees than the actual fuel I quickly turned off the auto delivery so I can call when low.
justplainvanilla
Haemaelaeinen
Waiting for my first, just bought an apartment. Electric heating, radiators from early 80's... I have been keeping temps around 17Celsius...
fbutt09
“Le miserable”
BushDidWolf359
If you live in Illinois you can get solar panels installed for free. Last month my electric bill was $13.
acejlp
Then they charge you because the surplus production is going on the grid.
Huh? We get credits because the surplus goes to the grid…
Well, in Belgium they convinced everybody to install solar and the meter would subtract all you put on the grid. /1
And then they just stopped doing that and now you get a small amount of money and get charged for putting extra load on the grid.
I seriously don’t understand all the negativity on solar panels here. Folks complain about utilities costs and pollution, then complain/
/when offered a viable alternative.
Froggie243
And then criticize the local, low power demand solution for not being perfect for all applications of current power demand.
absoluttalent
You still need to pay for the panels. 20,000 last time I priced for my house
PantlessThunderGoose42
Friends of ours, both lawyers, put in solar panels to power their house and spent 25K, (huge house) and they get $$ back from power co. now.
Ours were no money down and financed over several years so it’s pretty minimal, and still nets out to be cheaper. Plus they maintain them.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Are they "leased" or do you end up owning them free and clear? All the ones around here seem to be "leased" and it's bullshit
Actually now that you mention it, they are leased…but why is that bullshit?
CoqRoq
Because the lease is actually a scam if it's one of those incremental payment ones.
Notnomis0
Just don't every try to sell your house. No one will take over the payment, and even if they agree to the people holding the loan
Can make it a nightmare or almost impossible.
If the new owners don’t want them the company will take them down and reinstall them for us. Yeah shit can happen but still worth it.
SiriHowDoIAdult
Reminds me of that medical bill for a baby delivery where they charge for fucking skin to skin with your own fucking kid. Fucking fuck
HoneyBadgersAreBadAsses
bladderinfection
I can see keeping track of it all, but at the end of the day EVERY medical bill should be handed to the government.
LoquaciousDude
At the end of the day there shouldn’t be a medical bill, there should just be expenses paid by the gov
magicrhombus
An important distinction, because the former is just corporations leeching government money (same as it ever was).
SatoriEnligtenmentNow
What means “skin to skin” please?
TigersOnAcid
welcome to privatized capitalistic health care
DoctorNinjah
Would be even weirder if they charged you for skin to skin with someone elses kid :F
ropetopus
They charged $40 for there to be an extra person because it was skin-to-skin while in delivery room after c-section, so needed extra staff
BishlamekGurpgork
Which needs to be very precisely explained as something other than "Nurse supervision".
Shaodyn
Do they also charge a Breathing Hospital Air fee?
orbitn
yes, but only the premium "medical air" delivered by cannula
Just thought I'd check.
Don't give them ideas
IrishCyko
America? America!
What the hell??! They charge you for that!? I’m curious of what the damn fee is?
NoMasters
SerenePrincess013
The 'joke' used to be "girls are useless, but boys cost 150$ more", in reference to circumcision costs. Also, misogyny.
TanithRosenbaum
Yea also don't mutilate anyone's genitals, no matter what gender.
Oh, I agree. If someone wants to take pieces off, or add pieces to, their body, let them decide that when they're older.
Jup exactly
ConfusedAxis
For my kid in 2020 it was $40.
Renza0
`Murica
kruug
It's because a nurse supervises to ensure everyone is healthy.
jackwagon311
Read the article
ThisIsYourLifeNow
I dont know why you are getting downvoted, but iirc thats the reason. Nurse has to watch that mummy doesnt drop the babies. stupid, I know
Which is why infant mortality is so much higher in every other country that thinks this practice is insane.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Passing the newborn to the mother isn't checking any health.
The nurse was watching over after a complicated birth. Mother wasn't fully coherent so a dedicated nurse ensures the baby didn't end up on..
..the floor.
Flowerlady0
Absolute bananas. The people are already in the room. They didn't come in specifically to observe that.
mesogiria
It's charged at the same rate at the regular surgical time, it's just a separate item for billing purposes. Hospitals want to be able to
prove it happened for their records and programs.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
an extra one comes in after a c section to specifically make sure the mom doesnt drop the baby due to the drugs/weakness from the surgery
seventailfox78
Completely unnecessary. I do labour deliveries as part of my job as an anaesthetist and an additional person is not needed here
Pendurag
Iirc it was a high risk birth and not the norm. Was to keep mom and baby safe. Still bull to charge for it
It's for the nurse that supervises. Sounds like an excuse. You could bill for 'medical supervision,' but they itemized holding a baby.
coffeeandprozac
Why do we need to be supervised holding our baby?
fatherofworlds
In case the baby stops breathing while it's still figuring out lungs. Mine both had that issue, and I was glad for the supervision.
pandemicmodedad
I donno. When my wife gave birth, they were stitching her up still while she held the baby. The nurses were in the room for that reason.
kanybal
My bet is, if you say no, they charge you more because you're not holding it...
US hospitals have a long, long, long history of inflating and inventing charges that exist only so they can offer insurers a discount.
Insurers go along with it because who cares? They pass the cost on to the consumer. We go along with it because we have no alternative.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/utah-dad-posts-hospital-bill-40-fee-skin/story?id=42585001
NotLuckyDucky
Ah so not for skin to skin but more for an extra caregiver.
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
He paid the bill? Guess this guy has never heard of “it’s the principle that matters”
Praethius
If the charge is for an extra nurse to be present because the mother is medicated, he may be happy with that and pay it, though
Then the hospital should explain upfront that there will be a charge when the parents said they wants skin to skin after the C section
BurlRavenscroft
they charge you for holding a baby after a caesarean because youre weak from the drugs and another nurse has to make sure you dont drop baby
TheMeanGombeen
That's their fxxxxx job.
most people get paid for doing their jobs
It would have been so easy to just bill them for medical supervision, but it's easy to see the need to itemize holding your baby, instead.
Remember, the American insurance industry is founded upon hospitals setting inflated rates so they have a discount to offer insurers.
they could just budget it into the price instead of listing it separately but that nurse is going to get paid for their time either way
throwaway12345432
You mean like tipping?
Billing it is a way of proving it happened, for programs that track that. Hospital wants records of all the care provided.
InfiniteBirds
Except the nurse isn’t getting it directly. They make no less or more, the hospital just gets an excuse to charge you.
the nurse spends time doing their job, and then gets paid for the time spent doing their job
rudejohn
If the mother has a medical emergency (like my wife did) and can't do the skin to skin after the birth, you don't get charged for it.
notkvothethebloodless
(1)Oh cool that sounds reasonab-NO. NO IT FUCKING ISNT. Needing help to hold your child should not be something you should get charged for.
(2) that is some exploitative cold blooded horse shit and I do not accept there is any reason it should be justified.
nurses should get paid for doing their job. which parts of your job do you do for free?
crushingbore
I understand this isn't the case in every situation, but could the father not do that?
most fathers don't have the medical training to watch a post-surgical patient for signs of weakness or fainting
(1)this isnt about nurse pay. It's about a fucking exploitative healthcare system that's charging people for something as simple as being
(2) able to hold the fucking human they just birthed and the fact that costs any amount of money is bullshit.
americancheese1
See also: Ticket fucking master
thatguyfromny
Forgot the "hand over the piggy bank" fee.
ambalika
2% for looking in the mirror twice https://youtu.be/WWzBtuGsXGc?t=183
keybladers
What is this, Ticketmaster?
bkmurf
Texas?
andaction
My city started charging watershed fees (runoff from rain). That despite already having a sewer maintenance fee.
Aefinn
This is an edit from old Ticketmaster post. Exact same fees. Still accurate though.
Detmig
Covfefe
thereitis101
Biden is trying to end this BS
CaptainYesterday
Don't remember if it's electric or gas, but utility I have, charges $4 to pay the bill....
Drakknfyre
Water bill's also like that in some areas. My city will happily charge you for sewage if you're on a septic tank unless you correct them...
Drakknfyre
and they'll also charge you for neighborhood storm drain maintenance when literally no neighborhood around you for miles has any.
Drakknfyre
They also went from a annual $49 trash pickup tag to $10/month extra put on your water bill. They claimed it was "more convenient" than
Drakknfyre
having to buy an annual tag. Yeah, also more convenient for them that suddenly everyone was paying ~3X the price for the same service, too.
MmmmmSoup
I luckily rent a place with solar panels so I'm in the credit haven't paid more then $40 in the whole year I've lived here
Allaboutweimsoranythingreally
AT&T bill
DaisyfromDownunder
This left out the $2 paper invoice fee.
squelcheswetly
My property taxes look like this, too.
Munchman347
Last three bills, the 'fees and charges' exceeded the cost of the electricity. WTF?...
Clarysage
I want solar panels. And land to put the solar panels on.
SoundFuture
Why land though? Rooftop solar is the bees knees.
Clarysage
I rent and my house is a grade 2 listed building. What I'd really like is a boat with solar on the roof, but land will do!
Eiladar
Looks like our cable bill. We actually had to pay a fee for _not_ subscribing to the sports package.
dough4you
Don't forget the not paying attention tax!
LikeAwkwardlySocial
Forgot taxes
Kightzeareau
Somebody with some credibility should do a proper price assessment on how much is being used and how much is unjustly being overcharged.
OCTAVlAN
Ya'll can still afford electricity?
joot
Btw in most places you can offset half your energy usage with renewable sources for free via Arcadia.
molotovity
Charged my wife for a room, the baby for the same room, and food for both. My wife is his food bitch!
scoutMoonDiver
Don’t forget the $40 surcharge to rebuild the electrical grid, complements of Greg Abbott.
Richter12x2
He already caused my rate to go up 60 percent.
jojoyojimbi
how are the state republicans blaming it on biden?
Frederf
Wonder if they ever will. What's a $1.37 Governor Yacht fee?
SoundFuture
They've done quite a lot actually, but we will only ever learn if they did too little.
Soufange
If ever there was an incentive to green up your house in Texas it's Greg push-his-chair-off-a-cliff-like-he's-a-young-Paul-Rudd Abbott
BaloneyBob
irmonkey
My last propane delivery actually had more fees than the actual fuel I quickly turned off the auto delivery so I can call when low.
justplainvanilla
Haemaelaeinen
Waiting for my first, just bought an apartment. Electric heating, radiators from early 80's... I have been keeping temps around 17Celsius...
fbutt09
“Le miserable”
BushDidWolf359
If you live in Illinois you can get solar panels installed for free. Last month my electric bill was $13.
acejlp
Then they charge you because the surplus production is going on the grid.
BushDidWolf359
Huh? We get credits because the surplus goes to the grid…
acejlp
Well, in Belgium they convinced everybody to install solar and the meter would subtract all you put on the grid. /1
acejlp
And then they just stopped doing that and now you get a small amount of money and get charged for putting extra load on the grid.
BushDidWolf359
I seriously don’t understand all the negativity on solar panels here. Folks complain about utilities costs and pollution, then complain/
BushDidWolf359
/when offered a viable alternative.
Froggie243
And then criticize the local, low power demand solution for not being perfect for all applications of current power demand.
absoluttalent
You still need to pay for the panels. 20,000 last time I priced for my house
PantlessThunderGoose42
Friends of ours, both lawyers, put in solar panels to power their house and spent 25K, (huge house) and they get $$ back from power co. now.
BushDidWolf359
Ours were no money down and financed over several years so it’s pretty minimal, and still nets out to be cheaper. Plus they maintain them.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Are they "leased" or do you end up owning them free and clear? All the ones around here seem to be "leased" and it's bullshit
BushDidWolf359
Actually now that you mention it, they are leased…but why is that bullshit?
CoqRoq
Because the lease is actually a scam if it's one of those incremental payment ones.
Notnomis0
Just don't every try to sell your house. No one will take over the payment, and even if they agree to the people holding the loan
Notnomis0
Can make it a nightmare or almost impossible.
BushDidWolf359
If the new owners don’t want them the company will take them down and reinstall them for us. Yeah shit can happen but still worth it.
SiriHowDoIAdult
Reminds me of that medical bill for a baby delivery where they charge for fucking skin to skin with your own fucking kid. Fucking fuck
HoneyBadgersAreBadAsses
bladderinfection
I can see keeping track of it all, but at the end of the day EVERY medical bill should be handed to the government.
LoquaciousDude
At the end of the day there shouldn’t be a medical bill, there should just be expenses paid by the gov
magicrhombus
An important distinction, because the former is just corporations leeching government money (same as it ever was).
SatoriEnligtenmentNow
What means “skin to skin” please?
TigersOnAcid
welcome to privatized capitalistic health care
DoctorNinjah
Would be even weirder if they charged you for skin to skin with someone elses kid :F
ropetopus
They charged $40 for there to be an extra person because it was skin-to-skin while in delivery room after c-section, so needed extra staff
BishlamekGurpgork
Which needs to be very precisely explained as something other than "Nurse supervision".
Shaodyn
Do they also charge a Breathing Hospital Air fee?
orbitn
yes, but only the premium "medical air" delivered by cannula
Shaodyn
Just thought I'd check.
SiriHowDoIAdult
Don't give them ideas
IrishCyko
America? America!
SpottieOttieDopalisciousAngel
What the hell??! They charge you for that!? I’m curious of what the damn fee is?
NoMasters
SerenePrincess013
The 'joke' used to be "girls are useless, but boys cost 150$ more", in reference to circumcision costs. Also, misogyny.
TanithRosenbaum
Yea also don't mutilate anyone's genitals, no matter what gender.
SerenePrincess013
Oh, I agree. If someone wants to take pieces off, or add pieces to, their body, let them decide that when they're older.
TanithRosenbaum
Jup exactly
ConfusedAxis
For my kid in 2020 it was $40.
Renza0
`Murica
kruug
It's because a nurse supervises to ensure everyone is healthy.
jackwagon311
Read the article
ThisIsYourLifeNow
I dont know why you are getting downvoted, but iirc thats the reason. Nurse has to watch that mummy doesnt drop the babies. stupid, I know
BishlamekGurpgork
Which is why infant mortality is so much higher in every other country that thinks this practice is insane.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Passing the newborn to the mother isn't checking any health.
kruug
The nurse was watching over after a complicated birth. Mother wasn't fully coherent so a dedicated nurse ensures the baby didn't end up on..
kruug
..the floor.
Flowerlady0
Absolute bananas. The people are already in the room. They didn't come in specifically to observe that.
mesogiria
It's charged at the same rate at the regular surgical time, it's just a separate item for billing purposes. Hospitals want to be able to
mesogiria
prove it happened for their records and programs.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
an extra one comes in after a c section to specifically make sure the mom doesnt drop the baby due to the drugs/weakness from the surgery
seventailfox78
Completely unnecessary. I do labour deliveries as part of my job as an anaesthetist and an additional person is not needed here
Pendurag
Iirc it was a high risk birth and not the norm. Was to keep mom and baby safe. Still bull to charge for it
BishlamekGurpgork
It's for the nurse that supervises. Sounds like an excuse. You could bill for 'medical supervision,' but they itemized holding a baby.
coffeeandprozac
Why do we need to be supervised holding our baby?
fatherofworlds
In case the baby stops breathing while it's still figuring out lungs. Mine both had that issue, and I was glad for the supervision.
pandemicmodedad
I donno. When my wife gave birth, they were stitching her up still while she held the baby. The nurses were in the room for that reason.
kanybal
My bet is, if you say no, they charge you more because you're not holding it...
BishlamekGurpgork
US hospitals have a long, long, long history of inflating and inventing charges that exist only so they can offer insurers a discount.
BishlamekGurpgork
Insurers go along with it because who cares? They pass the cost on to the consumer. We go along with it because we have no alternative.
SiriHowDoIAdult
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/utah-dad-posts-hospital-bill-40-fee-skin/story?id=42585001
NotLuckyDucky
Ah so not for skin to skin but more for an extra caregiver.
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
He paid the bill? Guess this guy has never heard of “it’s the principle that matters”
Praethius
If the charge is for an extra nurse to be present because the mother is medicated, he may be happy with that and pay it, though
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
Then the hospital should explain upfront that there will be a charge when the parents said they wants skin to skin after the C section
BurlRavenscroft
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
they charge you for holding a baby after a caesarean because youre weak from the drugs and another nurse has to make sure you dont drop baby
TheMeanGombeen
That's their fxxxxx job.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
most people get paid for doing their jobs
BishlamekGurpgork
It would have been so easy to just bill them for medical supervision, but it's easy to see the need to itemize holding your baby, instead.
BishlamekGurpgork
Remember, the American insurance industry is founded upon hospitals setting inflated rates so they have a discount to offer insurers.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
they could just budget it into the price instead of listing it separately but that nurse is going to get paid for their time either way
throwaway12345432
You mean like tipping?
mesogiria
Billing it is a way of proving it happened, for programs that track that. Hospital wants records of all the care provided.
InfiniteBirds
Except the nurse isn’t getting it directly. They make no less or more, the hospital just gets an excuse to charge you.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
the nurse spends time doing their job, and then gets paid for the time spent doing their job
rudejohn
If the mother has a medical emergency (like my wife did) and can't do the skin to skin after the birth, you don't get charged for it.
notkvothethebloodless
(1)Oh cool that sounds reasonab-NO. NO IT FUCKING ISNT. Needing help to hold your child should not be something you should get charged for.
notkvothethebloodless
(2) that is some exploitative cold blooded horse shit and I do not accept there is any reason it should be justified.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
nurses should get paid for doing their job. which parts of your job do you do for free?
crushingbore
I understand this isn't the case in every situation, but could the father not do that?
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
most fathers don't have the medical training to watch a post-surgical patient for signs of weakness or fainting
notkvothethebloodless
(1)this isnt about nurse pay. It's about a fucking exploitative healthcare system that's charging people for something as simple as being
notkvothethebloodless
(2) able to hold the fucking human they just birthed and the fact that costs any amount of money is bullshit.